An asian guy tried the same routine, but to grab hold of suitcase address tag. This despite the elderly lady owner telling him to let go of her label and stop taking down her details and stop noting the address down for later burglary. I witnessed and interfered with an asian guy doing this on the way to Gatnick airport. Ooh he’s a student doing a survey, small world innit? That was years ago, …so much for the transport police.
Matt. As a bloke who works on Rail replacement and is a former Surveyor in Market Research for those individuals to be genuine.....1) He would only ask how you paid for your ticket and note it and possibly your boarding and alighting points -BY LAW Information can only be a person not which person undertook which journey for statisical research i.e. 45 passengers travelled Stratford to Gidea Park -NOT who they are etc 2) He would have to prove he was a member of The Market Research Soceity AND whom he is employed by with his Companies Telephone Number-This MUST be given if requested 3) He would NOT be in a position to charge you a fare as he is NOT an authorised RPI (Revenue Protection Inspector) . I'm glad you saw through them..I hope they get on a train that i'm on ...they will soon be in a lot of trouble 😃😃
If they're daft enough to try that stunt on a train I'm on I'll be offering them out at the next station and performing a citizens arrest then calling the police.
Don't you tap your card on a yellow scanner to get to your train anyway? How do you know these private companies aren't nicking your data and using your card details? Can't believe you'd fall for that frankly.
@@synorem TfL do have inspectors with card readers, yes. In uniform though, & not some Indian scammers 😅. I nearly got fined by them for the cheeky beer on the train one time 😃.
@@Lee_303 They can wear uniform, and sometimes plain clothes. It's in TfL's policies - which is why usually they also carry metal badges *cough* police wannabes *cough*
The Elizabeth line is dodgy as hell...I stopped using that line a while ago when I travel from Heathrow Airport....I use the Piccadilly Line instead....Elizabeth Line is full of chancers like this and it doesn't feel safe....
They're slimy scammers. Well done for not falling for it. Exactly, your details are registered as soon as you scan in, no need for extra surveys. Proper TFL staff have got more balls then that. 🎉
The only time I ever was a victim of debit card fraud, was after my card was cloned at an independent petrol station owned and operated by Indians! From then on, I used supermarket petrol stations, no problems since!
be bangladesh or pakistani , they were all indians once and look the same , indians have some of best scores in education these days , they dont need to commit crime , look at these 3 groups see who is in employment , bangla and pakistani some of worst rates for employment , indians one of best
@@boofuu3145 true but the difference is the religious aspect two of the four main religions of india wouldn't be doing such things and one is almost non existent in the uk so it leaves the one cult that has crime as its basic tenant
Yes, to ask for a bank card is definitely a scam, he is a thief, the card had been used to buy a ticket, it would never be asked for again. Ticket inspectors do not ask for bank cards, the only have limited rights to check tickets. Similar incident for me on the heathrow stopping train, when I got off and called a police officer they were gone, they were also asian. Never trust a caller named john smith with a strong asian accent on the phone from bank or online retailer.
Good on ya ! If it's a survey, then ask your questions. You don't need to scan anyone's card for a survey. Take their photos and send it to the Transit Police.
If you have time, I would definitely report this to the Transport Police. They Police the underground too, TFL are useless. well done mate, great public service announcement.
Thank you for the upload Brother! I recall being the subject of ticket inspections & they all at least wore TFL hi-vis vests & accompanied with a conductor or a Police officer! Always better safe than sorry Brother!!! Peace & Love!!!
Im not Indian and even I have to tell you that this comment is stupid. Scammers come in all shapes and sizes. If you continue to think this way you’re gonna get scammed yourself. Remember the biggest scams happen when you least expect it. For example…. Did you get the Covid vaccine? I hope you give an honest answer to that question…
Why didn’t you complain? A while back a few Indians were working at the forecourt and they were scamming customers. Eventually they got caught and sacked. Law in our country is an ass✌🏼❤️
@@Mattfuze maybe so. Still not too late. I think you should you might save some vulnerable person out there by reporting it so please kindly do. Then you’ve done your bit ✌🏼❤️
@Mattfuze you won't complain as you know what the outcome will be. He'll be told they're ticket surveyors who are subcontracted to TFL and have been a thing for years. He's just enjoying the attention from other old gammons.
@@boofuu3145 yep me too , I work in security the new scanners can read a card at over 5 feet away if it's got a booster signal on it , can literally walk in a shopping center , even hear a story of a fake homeless guy just sitting at shop doors collecting data on a WiFi boosted scanner.. be careful out there
They both stunk of fraud, good on you for firstly spotting their antics and then videoing them and sharing this type of fraud. How many people might get sucked into this, quite a few probably.
A: Surveys are done online and through the data on Ticket purchases, B: they certainly wouldn't dress like that as they would be representatives of the company involved C: unlikely they Actually identified themselves properly ( I can wear a named badge, doesn't mean I work for anyone )D: An ex or currently operating employee sold them equipment who claimed it were stolen, but then hacked for nefarious reasons, E: if they were legit they would not have left the scene! They were hoping to meet a clueless individual, SYKE great job bro, 😎🤘
You made a very good point. On buses this type of thing gets carried out as they pull up roadside. If a mode of transport requires you to mainly scan through an access barrier then why would this be necessary? Especially at 11pm at night.
I had a similar situation on the Train, asking the same questions. Told them to bugger off. Being an Essex girl I informed the whole carriage. 😂😂😂😂. They got off the next stop.
People have to look out for each other. I was on a subway train in Boston ( USA ) when a conductor stood up in a crowded car, pointed out a man and loudly told the people in the car “THIS MAN IS A PICKPOCKET! MIND YOUR WALLETS!” That man didn’t look too happy and minded his own business.
As a Asian myself & a public transport commuter I can confirm that dude was a bit dodgy. In terms of plain clothes i.e no TFL Uniform & for a Servey you'll never be asked to share your Banking Details. Other then that, either the alleged so called TFL Inspector was not properly Trained Or was really a scammer. Either ways the footage did seem Odd & Dodgy. Never share any private details of yourself unless its within Legal reason.
Exactly, no survey would be using a scanner ,And scanning the bank card ,Are people that silly to think he is doing a survey lol wake up people this guy has just told you the truth about scammers ,you should be thanking the guy for showing his face...
Great update. Very dodgy dudes they were. Like you say, you dont carry card scanners to do a survey. Well done for standing your ground and having the thought to film. Probably worth reporting as if they have gone to so much trouble to scam people, they or friends are probably still at it ✌️
Hello, I know this is in retrospect, however I work with chip and pin devices and there's a code number on the chip and pin device called an MID number which is tracked back to the bank (merchant). The person would have to apply for a bank machine and the funds would have to be processed and sent to a bank account. I realise you don't have the MID but you're halfway there with videoing the encounter. If anyone is watching this, they could request the MID and video the whole encounter and then send it to the police. You are basically doing a lot of ground work for the police. Good for you for clocking the scammer and I hope now more people are vigilant to this sort of fraud.
True but a harvesting scanner just needs to read your card send it via free wifi to their operations centre who use the details to make purchases and to sell on
@@firsteerr A couple of things: in my comment above, I was clearly giving the conman too much credit by being honest enough to acquire a chip and pin device through legitimate means. Second, the suggestion of a rfid/chip and pin data harvester is incredibly sinister. Shame on them!
This is why you all should use wallets etc that are shielded to protect your bank cards from being scanned unobtrusively by some criminal. Cheap as chips on Amazon, used the scanner at work to see if it works - out of the wallet scans fine , inside the wallet, not a sausage !
Meanwhile, the genuine inspectors waste time hanging around stations like Ashford, Bexhill and Hastings.. harassing hard working individuals who couldn't buy a ticket from the broken machine on their quiet country station, and couldn't get one on the train.. or grabbing teenagers by the arm who tell them they're under 16, no wonder they're constantly advertising for new employees.. terrible people. The sheer fact they dont have a native accent would make it shocking if anyone at all falls for this scam.
Exactly only with greater Anglia that’s how to get the proper revenue protection inspecting job with tickets if u see them unusual mugs again report immediately to 61016 see it say it sorted
Always ask to see their photo ID which they are required to carry. Railway Byelaw 24.3. I have declined to show my ticket to uniformed inspectors, who do not have their proper photo ID.
As a ticket inspector I can tell you that these people were unlikely to be ticket inspectors. you should send the video to the rail company and the local authorities. Undercover ticket inspectors do exist, however they must show you valid identification to prove they work on the railway if you ask for it. Hopefully these guys got arrested anyways...
When you said update, I assumed you’d contacted the British Transport Police or TfL and told them what had happened. That would be the obvious and public spirited thing to do. And if there’s a problem, I’m sure they’ll be only too happy to use your video to help catch and prosecute the individuals concerned.
@@paulearle3780 I’ve already commented on his last video that I’m pretty sure they were doing TfL passenger surveys - and so did a handful of others. But he then proceeded to release this second video making the same accusations, without having reported it. So hence my suggestion that he do so.
Anyone asking for banking information out of normal financial situations is a criminal
Good on you for letting the world know about these scambags
they were on the lookout for drunks to scam , simple as
This guy's never sober.
@@RM-qv9rb he has a drinking problem
Or scared women
This guy is always appearing drunk.
Drinking or not, he's on his toes.
First red flag. - they were indians
Never give bank details away..
No shit sherlock
I don't stop in the street anymore for "salesman" or charity people anymore. I just ignore and carry on.
@@shoot_the_glass5654 So do I tbh.
An asian guy tried the same routine, but to grab hold of suitcase address tag. This despite the elderly lady owner telling him to let go of her label and stop taking down her details and stop noting the address down for later burglary.
I witnessed and interfered with an asian guy doing this on the way to Gatnick airport. Ooh he’s a student doing a survey, small world innit? That was years ago, …so much for the transport police.
Matt. As a bloke who works on Rail replacement and is a former Surveyor in Market Research for those individuals to be genuine.....1) He would only ask how you paid for your ticket and note it and possibly your boarding and alighting points -BY LAW Information can only be a person not which person undertook which journey for statisical research i.e. 45 passengers travelled Stratford to Gidea Park -NOT who they are etc 2) He would have to prove he was a member of The Market Research Soceity AND whom he is employed by with his Companies Telephone Number-This MUST be given if requested 3) He would NOT be in a position to charge you a fare as he is NOT an authorised RPI (Revenue Protection Inspector) . I'm glad you saw through them..I hope they get on a train that i'm on ...they will soon be in a lot of trouble 😃😃
Pin this Matt, helps others to know the Law.
It would be good to inform British transport police
If they're daft enough to try that stunt on a train I'm on I'll be offering them out at the next station and performing a citizens arrest then calling the police.
People are daft. Hand your card to a stranger with a scanner??? The new English will fall for it.
also elderly
Don't you tap your card on a yellow scanner to get to your train anyway? How do you know these private companies aren't nicking your data and using your card details? Can't believe you'd fall for that frankly.
@@synorem TfL do have inspectors with card readers, yes. In uniform though, & not some Indian scammers 😅. I nearly got fined by them for the cheeky beer on the train one time 😃.
@@Lee_303 They can wear uniform, and sometimes plain clothes. It's in TfL's policies - which is why usually they also carry metal badges *cough* police wannabes *cough*
@@synoremcriminal mastermind we have here...😂😂😂😂😂
The Elizabeth line is dodgy as hell...I stopped using that line a while ago when I travel from Heathrow Airport....I use the Piccadilly Line instead....Elizabeth Line is full of chancers like this and it doesn't feel safe....
They're slimy scammers. Well done for not falling for it. Exactly, your details are registered as soon as you scan in, no need for extra surveys. Proper TFL staff have got more balls then that. 🎉
Tfl ticket inspector I've seen,wear dark blue uniforms,body cams not just two casuals
The only time I ever was a victim of debit card fraud, was after my card was cloned at an independent petrol station owned and operated by Indians! From then on, I used supermarket petrol stations, no problems since!
i pay by cash now it stops it
They are not Indians
be bangladesh or pakistani , they were all indians once and look the same , indians have some of best scores in education these days , they dont need to commit crime , look at these 3 groups see who is in employment , bangla and pakistani some of worst rates for employment , indians one of best
@@boofuu3145 true but the difference is the religious aspect two of the four main religions of india wouldn't be doing such things and one is almost non existent in the uk so it leaves the one cult that has crime as its basic tenant
Here we go anther free man on the land Moore Ron
Sad thing is there's people out there gullible to go along with it and get scammed.
Same kind of people who scan peoples bags as they walk by.
I wrap my credit and debit cards in tin foil now, after an unrecognised payment to Uber.
Got all my bank cards in a metal bank card holder.
Thanks for that heads up. A survey would not need a card scanner!!!
Yes, to ask for a bank card is definitely a scam, he is a thief, the card had been used to buy a ticket, it would never be asked for again. Ticket inspectors do not ask for bank cards, the only have limited rights to check tickets. Similar incident for me on the heathrow stopping train, when I got off and called a police officer they were gone, they were also asian. Never trust a caller named john smith with a strong asian accent on the phone from bank or online retailer.
Anyone who believes they are genuine after seeing that first video deserves to get scammed by them.
Labour voters and lefties.
Good on ya ! If it's a survey, then ask your questions. You don't need to scan anyone's card for a survey. Take their photos and send it to the Transit Police.
Good for you for standing your ground against these criminal immigrants!!
@@Landshark2020 thank you
If you have time, I would definitely report this to the Transport Police. They Police the underground too, TFL are useless. well done mate, great public service announcement.
Watch out, you will be on police watchlist as a potential extremist
Sad but true
Thank you for the upload Brother! I recall being the subject of ticket inspections & they all at least wore TFL hi-vis vests & accompanied with a conductor or a Police officer! Always better safe than sorry Brother!!!
Peace & Love!!!
Was it a survey to see how many people are gullible enough to hand over their bank card on a whim 😂
🤣🤣
I believe a real Brit anyway
The trouble is bank scammers seem to be mainly Indians so when the bank calls me and it’s an Indian I hung up. He wouldn’t.
Im not Indian and even I have to tell you that this comment is stupid. Scammers come in all shapes and sizes. If you continue to think this way you’re gonna get scammed yourself. Remember the biggest scams happen when you least expect it. For example…. Did you get the Covid vaccine? I hope you give an honest answer to that question…
You were totally right. I haven't been back to my home town in 22 years but the streetwise Londoner never leaves me.
Someone doing a survey would have paperwork and credentials to prove it. You did the right thing.
You came up on my recommended page. I'm a public transport user so thank you for the awareness 👍
Why didn’t you complain?
A while back a few Indians were working at the forecourt and they were scamming customers. Eventually they got caught and sacked. Law in our country is an ass✌🏼❤️
@@ilyasVa waste of time nothing would get done
@@Mattfuze maybe so. Still not too late. I think you should you might save some vulnerable person out there by reporting it so please kindly do. Then you’ve done your bit ✌🏼❤️
@@ilyasVaok I will email TfL and see what happens
@Mattfuze you won't complain as you know what the outcome will be. He'll be told they're ticket surveyors who are subcontracted to TFL and have been a thing for years. He's just enjoying the attention from other old gammons.
Dont even need to have them hand you the card, walk down a train full of people scanning for "taps" at £50 a go.
yes , its why i got one of those metal card wallets , supposedly stops them being scanned
@@boofuu3145 yep me too , I work in security the new scanners can read a card at over 5 feet away if it's got a booster signal on it , can literally walk in a shopping center , even hear a story of a fake homeless guy just sitting at shop doors collecting data on a WiFi boosted scanner.. be careful out there
They both stunk of fraud, good on you for firstly spotting their antics and then videoing them and sharing this type of fraud. How many people might get sucked into this, quite a few probably.
No doubt a scam artist and not a very good one at that 🤨🤨😖
Yeah plus you can buy anything online these days, probably got the ticket thing from Amazon
You don't get plain clothes railway inspectors😂
Ermm you do.
I think you did the right thing and you're doing a service to the community by alerting people to this. A similar thing is happening in car parks.
Genuine Survey people would never ask for you bank card to be scanned.
How're they supposed to tell if you tapped in using your card then?
They never did.
A: Surveys are done online and through the data on Ticket purchases, B: they certainly wouldn't dress like that as they would be representatives of the company involved C: unlikely they Actually identified themselves properly ( I can wear a named badge, doesn't mean I work for anyone )D: An ex or currently operating employee sold them equipment who claimed it were stolen, but then hacked for nefarious reasons, E: if they were legit they would not have left the scene!
They were hoping to meet a clueless individual, SYKE great job bro, 😎🤘
Proper inspectors on trains..to stop this.
Anymore if it's not the cops, I don't care what they ask for, get stuffed.
My old nan would of fell for that.. Because I've seen this, that won't happen. Cheers fella
You made a very good point. On buses this type of thing gets carried out as they pull up roadside. If a mode of transport requires you to mainly scan through an access barrier then why would this be necessary? Especially at 11pm at night.
When Mike, John, Richard, etc, talk in a certain heavy accent, ignore them.
I had a similar situation on the Train, asking the same questions. Told them to bugger off. Being an Essex girl I informed the whole carriage. 😂😂😂😂. They got off the next stop.
@@deadlykitten.5908 where in Essex are you, I am in Brentwood myself 😊
@@Mattfuze
Born in Dagenham. Made good. Now in a lovely village outside Chelmsford.
People have to look out for each other. I was on a subway train in Boston ( USA ) when a conductor stood up in a crowded car, pointed out a man and loudly told the people in the car “THIS MAN IS A PICKPOCKET! MIND YOUR WALLETS!” That man didn’t look too happy and minded his own business.
Yes mate, anyone who takes the train and thinks those people are doing a survey....will end up a very poor person !
TFL should be issuing a statement on fake ticket inspectors and what you should be looking out for.
As a Asian myself & a public transport commuter I can confirm that dude was a bit dodgy. In terms of plain clothes i.e no TFL Uniform & for a Servey you'll never be asked to share your Banking Details. Other then that, either the alleged so called TFL Inspector was not properly Trained Or was really a scammer. Either ways the footage did seem Odd & Dodgy. Never share any private details of yourself unless its within Legal reason.
"Doing a survey" is a really weird conclusion to come to.
Good man thanks for exposing them,watch out people.
@@paulkielty3800 thank you
Well done Matt thanks for the heads up.
You handled it brilliantly
Need penalties for the scams.
Just refuse to comply. Inform them to contact the Transport Police, or Train officials.
Nah. I think they were both scammers. A survey would not require bank cards. That is BS.
I always buy a ticket that way that’s all you have to show 😊
Exactly, no survey would be using a scanner ,And scanning the bank card ,Are people that silly to think he is doing a survey lol wake up people this guy has just told you the truth about scammers ,you should be thanking the guy for showing his face...
Clear, concise, facts
Great update. Very dodgy dudes they were. Like you say, you dont carry card scanners to do a survey. Well done for standing your ground and having the thought to film. Probably worth reporting as if they have gone to so much trouble to scam people, they or friends are probably still at it ✌️
Never give a bank card to anyone. Anyone that thinks hes doing a survey are potential victims. Fools.
Hello, I know this is in retrospect, however I work with chip and pin devices and there's a code number on the chip and pin device called an MID number which is tracked back to the bank (merchant). The person would have to apply for a bank machine and the funds would have to be processed and sent to a bank account. I realise you don't have the MID but you're halfway there with videoing the encounter. If anyone is watching this, they could request the MID and video the whole encounter and then send it to the police. You are basically doing a lot of ground work for the police. Good for you for clocking the scammer and I hope now more people are vigilant to this sort of fraud.
True but a harvesting scanner just needs to read your card send it via free wifi to their operations centre who use the details to make purchases and to sell on
@@firsteerr A couple of things: in my comment above, I was clearly giving the conman too much credit by being honest enough to acquire a chip and pin device through legitimate means. Second, the suggestion of a rfid/chip and pin data harvester is incredibly sinister. Shame on them!
If it's to do with money then cops will be straight onto it... however if they threatened you then cops wouldn't bat an eye lid....
This is why you all should use wallets etc that are shielded to protect your bank cards from being scanned unobtrusively by some criminal.
Cheap as chips on Amazon, used the scanner at work to see if it works - out of the wallet scans fine , inside the wallet, not a sausage !
You have every right to refuse don't engage or threaten to call the police
Yeah I've seen videos of this people in convenience stores are doing this My Mom was just talking about this today
Meanwhile, the genuine inspectors waste time hanging around stations like Ashford, Bexhill and Hastings.. harassing hard working individuals who couldn't buy a ticket from the broken machine on their quiet country station, and couldn't get one on the train.. or grabbing teenagers by the arm who tell them they're under 16, no wonder they're constantly advertising for new employees.. terrible people.
The sheer fact they dont have a native accent would make it shocking if anyone at all falls for this scam.
Thankd for sharing the update my friend
Hes not as thunk as you drink he is !
Exactly only with greater Anglia that’s how to get the proper revenue protection inspecting job with tickets if u see them unusual mugs again report immediately to 61016 see it say it sorted
Always ask to see their photo ID which they are required to carry.
Railway Byelaw 24.3. I have declined to show my ticket to uniformed inspectors, who do not have their proper photo ID.
As a ticket inspector I can tell you that these people were unlikely to be ticket inspectors. you should send the video to the rail company and the local authorities.
Undercover ticket inspectors do exist, however they must show you valid identification to prove they work on the railway if you ask for it.
Hopefully these guys got arrested anyways...
you handled that very well 👍
She’s turnt the weans against us
When you said update, I assumed you’d contacted the British Transport Police or TfL and told them what had happened. That would be the obvious and public spirited thing to do. And if there’s a problem, I’m sure they’ll be only too happy to use your video to help catch and prosecute the individuals concerned.
He won't as he knows he'll be told they're subcontracted to TFL. He's just a little racist bully picking on people s.aller than him.
@@paulearle3780 I’ve already commented on his last video that I’m pretty sure they were doing TfL passenger surveys - and so did a handful of others. But he then proceeded to release this second video making the same accusations, without having reported it. So hence my suggestion that he do so.
Yeh right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@keepingitreal618 excessive use of emjois, adding nothing of any value. I detect a chav.
Definitely scanning for bank information
Your video should be shown to the Transport Police ,this need stamping out,
Why don’t you contact TFL and find out for sure?
It's suspicious
Well done lad, at the time pissed and on the ball 👍
Should pass it on to the old bill mate
they think we're cvnts
Did you report it?
I did see the video. Also. All train inspectors do have a uniform.
Thanks great bit of filming if I see these types first ill grab and keep the scanner
Well done Sir.
Nice job, patriot.
show the film to BTP im sure they d like a chat with these 2
You should have contacted the police.
Does the man work for TFL? He wasn't clear about it.
Just say get the police then , they will get off the next stop !
if they where genuine they'd be working 9 to 5 not at night
@@robparkinson3370 exactly
Yes the fuze!! Legend
Why are no police doing anything
Did you contact TFL, and what did they say
Not an update at all then….
What line were you travelling on? That way, at least other passengers will know to keep an eye out for them trying the same scam again
@@steveboyd8994 Elizabeth line
Who cares who he works for? You’ve paid for your ticket? You just want to be left alone.
Thanks for sharing this
Keep up the good work
Thankyou
His padge was so bad looking 2
Cheers buddy