MOTHBALL FLEET OF GARELOCH - NO SOUND
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2015
- (12 Apr 1957)
L.S. looking down onto Garloch with battleship King George V and Aircraft carrier. Telephoto shots of each L.S. from shore past tree with H.M.S. Anson and H.M.S. Duke of York. Series of telephoto shots from the shore, battleships in the following order. Anson, Duke of York, K.G.V., Duke of York.
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My late father served in King George V . It's such a pity the government didn't have the foresight to preserve a KGV-class battleship for the nation.
Thanks for posting, 'Movietone'. Some of those angles make for great images, and they give the KGV class a whole new look..
One of the worlds largest navies, reduced to almost nothing after WWII...damn shame
I appreciated seeing the KGV in particular. My father helped build this ship, then joined up and served in her throughout the war including the Bismarck action and later into the Pacific, visiting Nagasaki. I have his photo album with various shots from those days. Shows how time has moved as the KGVI will be a ballistic missile boat.
So wonderful to see these vanished ships.
I wish that they'd have saved/preserved at least one of the Royal Navy's many battleships.
I lived on the Gareloch in these days. It was great to tie up to the buoys under these great ships and fish from our rowing boat. So sad to see them broken up.
Mike Stewart
+HTellel1 - glad you found the film and thanks for sharing your memories - best wishes - Jenny @ Movietone
You are so lucky. Having being born in 2000, I was alive at a time when almost all of the nations warships of this era were gone.
H.M.S. Belfast,
H.M.S. Cavalier,
H.M.S. Whimbrel,
H.M.S. Zenith,
H.M.S. Hermes, (Built in World War II, but completed in the 50's.)
Other than some submarines I cannot name for the life of me, that's it...
If you also think of WWI, we still have
H.M.S. Caroline,
H.M.S. President,
And H.M.S. M33.
If you're going to consider intact (as well as can be expected) wrecks, we have 90% of H.M.S. Royal Oak sat 30 metres under the water. The only issue there's that it's a mass war grave.
My dad was brought up in Rosneath on the Gareloch in the 1940/50s and he remembers when the battleships where there as part of the mothball fleet and also when they went to the breakers yard at Faslane. During WW2 a lot of the area was a US Navy base
An old neighbour of mine (deceased some years ago) served on the Duke of York. He always carried a photo of her in his wallet. He'd been torpedoed twice on smaller ships so he felt safe aboard her. I am lucky to have a small pennant from HMS Anson.
Beautiful ships.
It's a shame they didn't save at least one of them. In particular King George V or Duke of York; for their battles against Bismarck and Scharnhorst respectively. These ships made history.
Mothball fleet? More like "the country is bankrupt so we can't afford these ships any longer" fleet. I doubt any of these ships ever saw service with the Navy again and were either sold off to other countries or scrapped.
The battleships were all scrapped as they were obsolete by the 1950s
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Which aircraft carrier is that?
One of the post war light fleet carriers by the look of it.
Appear to be a Colossus class light carrier. Its hard to tell due to the poor quality of the picture though. If not, it might be a Illustrious class but I'm hard leaning the Colossus due to the mast, funnel and hangar door layout.
I think that was the proper name for the class..
Possibly the Leviathan. Never completed and sold for scrap.
There were two at the time; Implacable and Indefatigable. I can't tell you which one this is
Shameful, scandalous is that the RN never imposed to the governments the necessity to preserve at least one of the glorious ships like de Iron Duke, Warspite, K G V ou one of the "R" class ships. Not a SINGLE one not even the last one, the HMS Vanguard?!
Too bad the Admiralty didn't go with three triple turrets instead of those quad's which proved problematical.
Only in 1941. The next years they resolved the mecanical problems. And that quad turrets contributed to sunk two german battleships.
POW lacked a proper shakedown, therefore it suffered malfunctions in the fore quad. Too new ship for real action at Straight of Denmark. On the other hand, DOY was lethal against Scharnhorst. KGV played a second fiddle in finishing the crippled Bismarck, hms Rodney was the real smasher there. Too slow to be called a modern battleship, but significant firepower against non-or minimally moving target.
They didn't, because developing a new 16" gun would have added two years to their construction time. Those on the Nelsons were considered a failure by the top brass. They wanted a high velocity gun.
In my opinion, the real mistake was not developing a triple turret using the 15"/42 caliber Naval gun. This was one of the most accurate guns of the era! Other than the Nelson's, ALL the other British Capitol Ships used this gun. So it would have been easier logistics to use the same gun as well. The AP shell weighed about a ton. Nothing to sneeze at!
The KGVs were beautiful ships. Imagine them with the symmetry of three triple turrets. The Lions would have had this look, had they been built.
The KGVs with 9 15"/42 caliber guns in three triple turrets would have been both beautiful and deadly.
Just my thoughts!
Hello from across the pond, from an American History Buff.
@@smc1942 Actually KGV Guns had almost similar Penetration capabilities as of 16 inch guns of Nelson
There is a table that the drachnifel showed
KGV had similar Penetration capabilities on belt armour as of Bismarck, Richelieu, Littirio guns
But the deck armour penetration capabilities were even better than Bismarck, Richelieu and Littirio guns
That surprised me even the Shell was Heavier for it's caliber 721.5 kg Shell well designed and very accurate guns
It carried more propellent than any other WW2 era guns even more than the Iowa's