@@TheTrekPlanner the pit could be for the mud, morter.. is your interested in history. watch. everything inside me.. theres a lot been hidden. seems the 2 ww. were meant to destroy history, de populate. nothing to do with quarrels. america, is not, what they tell you..
@@TheTrekPlanner arial shot , 15:50. lot of ''tracks'' almost centre of the triangle from outside the stone wall top. bottom right to the creek, looks like a perfect circle. could be nothing.
According to the stories of the Navajo people, when certain tribes were defeated and chased away, they would ceremonially destroy their pottery as a way to wipe away the memory of their enemy.
I agree! If the tribe was forced to leave, they would probably destroy their pots & maybe even parts of the structures to make them unusable by their enemies.
@@TheTrekPlanner The more we discover, the more expansion and more to discover. Just never limit the possible facts, and know that "Mainstream Academia's 19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline used as their foundation of fact" (requires Belief, and Beliefs based is Dogmatic) Freedom of Thoughts is the true cornerstone of Science, ... and of Freedom. Enjoy your Treks! Beth Bartlett Sociologist Behavioralist and Historian
I am thrilled that you use only your eyes and your camera lens to show us these beautiful sites. It gives me hope! And I love your trek notes and ponderings. Keep being curious! ❤️🌲🐿️🍄🟫
Jeff is the type of guy who you'd trust to watch your home. He is respectful and able to create content that makes you feel like you've been there every step.
I really appreciate your comment! I strive to be as minimal of a visitor as possible. That's why I love using the drone, so we can get close without actually disturbing anything. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your comment. Being outside in nature by myself or with family and friends really bring things into perspective about what really matters
Taking us on his treks and constantly brow beating us about what we should do and shouldn't do. That's literally the basis of his channel. Every video is the same, "Don't step on the cryptobiotic soil, don't disturb pot shards, don't climb on the ruins. He sounds like a broken record EVERY video. Bro just put all your nagging in the video description and make the videos about the exploration. The constant nagging really takes away from your videos.
@@Springfield-eo8jl for sure, it's like going shopping with your parents as a 5 year old - Johnny don't touch this, don't go over there, don't move that. It's pretty off-putting and condescending to the adult viewers. That said others in this genre do it too, some kind of virtue signalling they feel they need to display.
I greatly appreciate how respectful you are toward the ancients, their dwellings, and possessions. Thank you for sharing. I never would have had the opportunity to learn and see those detailed aspects of the SW. God bless.
Spot on with your comparison to Chaco Canyon. The layout when you showed the google earth shot immediately screamed Chaco Anasazi to me! Great stuff Jeff thank you!
Oh my, I love starting on the hike with you with the mystery completely in the future. The highlight is when you reach the destination and you are just overwhelmed with excitement and joy. That is contagious! 😊
I am also 80 and I enjoy the thrill of exploration through your videos. I love your honesty,, and puzzling things out with you. I can't go treking, but I can see more with you than I would if I were out there. Thank you for the fun and satsfaction of discovery‼️Keep up the good work, and God bless you.
Finally, someone honest enough to tell the truth. As someone who's walked several of the same areas as Trek Planner, I can tell you he's locating the spots you don't find on a website or in a trail guide or book.
Jeff: The big rock shown at mark 5:54 on the ridge directly behind the ruin, looks like it contains a cavernous alcove, and with this large ruin, it seems that could also be worthy of investigation and could contain ruins, too! This was very interesting. The weather cycle hundreds of years ago could have provided more rain, than what exists there now, and those pits, might have been small lakes that contained water, which could have been why they built next to it! Thanks again for another great trek!
My thoughts exactly. Those ridges that surround this site look like they were perfect for further exploring and discovery. If you choose to do so, I hope you find something else amazing and bring us along for the Trek (you see what I did there, lol).
@thetrekplanner This is very interesting. As regards the broken pottery, I don’t know if this has any relevance or not: there is a nonfiction book called “The Lost City of the Monkey God” by Douglas Preston. They discovered lots and lots of broken pottery and the local people told them that whenever a group of their ancestors moved on to a new area, they would break all the pottery that they were leaving behind. It had something to do with their belief that spirits were trapped in the pottery. That book is set in Central America but combined with the creepy feeling you had around the broken pottery, it reminded me of that ancient practice. Who knows? Have a great weekend and thanks for all you do.
All that pottery in one spot may be a midden site or a “trash pit”. In my area they liked to camp at the top of steep hills. The hillsides are usually full of broken pottery and shell and bone. Very similar to modern day campsites unfortunately, you can usually find people’s garbage along the perimeter somewhere.
When I was still living in east Texas I found several sites exactly as you described. One of which was on some private property and I had permission to dig into it and I found several really nice points and an almost complete pipe end and tons of broken pottery but nothing of real significance. The best place by far that I found the majority of my Texas points Paleo to later archaic was along the waterline of Lake Fork. For a few years in a row there was a bad drought causing the lake to reseed several feet and you could find tons of them.
On this side of the Atlantic, castles commonly had a midden where all rubbish and broken plates and dishes would be dumped. A great and accessible example of this can be seen in the site of the original Louvre structure, below the ground floor of the current structure.
It would be cool to think that the pits were ancient structures. I have a feeling it could be the result of pot hunters digging up the site. I hope that I'm wrong.
@@larryg7806 Whenever you dig down, you have to remove earth and pile it up beyond where you're digging. If it was pot hunters, there would be evidence of that.
My comment is that I follow you and notice others doing similar trips but I follow only you. you give the air of excitement and clearly enjoy finding or just hiking out there, whether or not you find a ruin. you always find beauty.
Thank you for another amazing adventure. I grew up in Arizona in the 1970s & encountered many amazing ruins & pictographs in the White Tank area. I had a respect for these areas so your approach resonates with me Jeff. Happy trails ☮️✌️
Thank you for supporting me directly through a Super Thanks!! I’m happy to hear you enjoyed this adventure! The White Tank area is a place I have yet to explore but I really do need to take a trip to AZ soon! Thank you again! 😊 -Jeff
Brilliant Track to the Side and its Large - nice Pottery Pieces as well - sooooo many different ones ! Great Drone Views also ! Thanks for showing Us and Yes - I think You are the Best ! Many Cheers from Australia !!!!
Finallllyyy, someone actually bringing forward the ancient structures in North America. There are TONS. No one has revealed them, gov’t doesn’t care, covers up most of them in fencing etc … good work 🙏🏼
I love watching your channel, and I appreciate that you tell us when you actually found something on Google Earth, or you are at a well known site. I don't care one way or the other whether they are well known, but I like knowing.
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Great video, Jeff! What a fascinating place. I appreciate what you're saying about your finds being authentic, and know what you mean about some of the other channels out there. Keep up the great work!
Years ago I was working with a history/archeology field school and a student asked, "What do we do if we find an arrowhead?" The archeologist said, "leave it where you found it." The tribal leader who also taught at the school said, "Pick it up, take it with you, the Indian who dropped it didn't want it anymore." I always thought that was funny. The tribal teacher is now a judge on the reservation and we've been best friends now for close to 20 years. I still side with the archeologist though :) Taking artifacts destroys context and the story is lost or broken when that item is removed. Take for example the amount of pot shards in one location. With corroborating evidence it could mean a site of pottery manufacture. Once the shards are gone that part of the story is also gone. Corroborating evidence could be evidence of kilns or even fragments of charcoal.
Thank you! I get recommended channels that visit these popular places and they say they found it on google earth. I have to laugh because we know they are being deceitful.
Oh we all know your the most true, and authentic on TH-cam- or anywhere else. I watched one of your videos 1st. Loved it and searched and searched for others like it. There are no others for me. They don't compare. You are amazing at what you do. You have a calling. And I thank you so much for showing me these amazing places.
6:30 I think that sherd looks like Navajo/Diné (The People) pottery (Dinétah Gray, 1540-1740 AD), which was later than the pottery you’ve mostly found on camera. The square or rectangular structures are probably Ancient Puebloan. They were there until just before the Diné were. It’s possible that the Navajos inhabited other tribes’ abandoned dwellings. The Navajo people built defenses against the Spaniards, as well as building dome-shaped structures (called hoguns), along with square and rectangular-shaped structures (called pueblitos/small pueblos), which were sometimes gated.
Great site, Jeff, and thank you for pointing out that some people visit well known places pretending they were the first ones to discover them!! The sherds in one spot may be for a variety of reasons: Midden pile Firing spot where pots were made Washed down Food storage area Stay safe in the heat. Interesting layout of the site. Walls for animal enclousures maybe, like sheep, if the ruin is post 1600s?
Pot sherd distribution is a normal human thing, Consider these are like semi disposable dishware/cookware/storage vessels and they break with use. The people generally put their broken pottery in a waste midden or garbage piles.
I absolutely LOVE your channel! So interesting, and calming in a world full of noise and tribulation. Thank you so much and please becareful as you explore and up lift the spirit of those of us who can't do it anymore. 💜👍
Fascinating, there looked to be other ring patterns on the bottom right of the overlay pattern at the end of the vid. Stay safe, stay hydrated. Many thanks.
@TheTrekPlanner Well thats cool man! Be safe! I cant wait to see you check out Devil's Tower, Mt Rushmore, and Crazy Horse monument!! Im sure there are great things for you to see there.
Another superb posting. I like your comparison to a Chaco canyon site. The pines line up to give the impression of streams, abandoned streams, springs and underground springs. An exploration expansion that for some reason, never grew.
Love hearing the ambient sounds on your adventures, Jeff! (You even caught a ghost voice on one such trek!) Keep relying on your clairsentience ('the feels', listening to your emotions, trusting your 'gut instinct')--no doubt what you sensed is correct about the sherds piled in one place. Trust your senses--they will always keep you safe! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
How intriguing. This is quite a large site and the structure could have housed many people. Makes one wonder what their life was like at that time. Keep trekking!
I don't know nearly as much about ancient ruins as other commenters, but looking at this site my first impulse was 2 pens for goats or sheep + some dwelling and storage spaces for the livestock owners. The pile of rocks @6:00 could maybe have been building materials? Like, maybe these structures were never completed but the ancients left for some reason? Wonderful find, Jeff! Thanks for pursuing your curiosity and bringing us along!
There's tons and tons of the exact same kind of pottery all around the area I live. Pueblo style and some earlier examples. Some of it is really cool looking.
I'm 73 and can't "do" anymore but with the younger crows doin' it now I do get to watch and sometimes research for myself. My ancient family consisted of explorers, traders of the Hudson Bay co., And more than 1 Indian grandma. I love your work and hope you keep "doing"
Another superb posting. I like your comparison to actual Chaco canyon sites. The pines line up to give the impression of streams, abandoned streams, springs and underground springs. An exploration expansion that for some reason, never grew.
Thank you for your Super Thanks!! I hadn’t noticed the trees lining up but I think you are right that there is something to that! This is why I love everyone’s comments. You bring new ideas to the table that I don’t consider 😊 Thanks again!! -Jeff
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One square was a building and the other an enclosed courtyard. Animals and children can be outside but safe. The pits were underground shelters/basements. IMO
I watch some of the other exploring videos on TH-cam, but you are my very favorite because of your honesty, integrity, and enthusiasm. You’re the best!
A lot of Native tribes hate archaeologists and wont have them on their reservations. Sadly decades ago they didn’t preserve sites, just destroyed everything in their searches. I was taken to a very sacred cave in S. AZ, we hiked quite a ways to it, with great excitement and anticipation. When we got there we were completely shocked. Every bit of dirt on the floor if the cave had been removed to the bedrock, so basically it was a big circle. There was absolutely nothing whatsoever left to show it had been a sacred place. It was completely destroyed. I was extremely shocked. I had no clue whatsoever that archaeologists did that sort of thing. I grew up in AZ and lived there for 26 years. I had Native friends who took me to completely off limits, sacred places that were astonishing, that they said they would never let an archaeologist see. I was also blindfolded several times and taken to sacred caves, where the Anasazi had lived. I was told they never ever even mentioned these caves to any archaeologists. Some looked exactly like the Anasazi had lived there yesterday. Everything… literally everything, was left exactly like the people were vaporized and all their belongings were left. It was mindblowing. I have never heard any definitive theories about what happened to them, as their sites are all over, just left like that, frozen in time, especially in the caves. I am very grateful and blessed to have seen what I was honored to see.
Jeff, awesome find! Looks isolated out there. You could be right about it being a Chaco Canyon outlier. Enjoyed your exploration and drone footage. Thanks so much for being our eyes and ears (and legs) in these adventures!
Was on big mountain quite a few years ago and the residents there took us around to look at bunch of old ruins. Nearly every old foundation had hundreds of pot sherds strewn from one doorway on just one side of the dwelling. They said that was the way they disposed of the old broken pots. They also said not to touch the pieces as they would cause sores.
All those times and I thought you only speak English 😂, then suddenly Cebuano mixed in with the hat 🤣 Priceless! If the ruin has been that old, ie more than 700 years, one can only imagine the grandeur and the view of this homestead! Perfect subsistence location when there are plenty of springs nearby but very temporary at best!
I'm remembering running into a whole group of Indians camping in a large grove of Pinion Pines. It was late in September & they said they harvested pine nuts every year. They invited us to participate & those nuts were fabulous. I'm wondering if this could be an ancient harvest site since there are lots of pinion pines. This was really interesting. The world holds lots of mysteries. Thanks for this one.
At about 6 minutes, the pile of rocks: It seems to me that to build such a structure would require a large number of people many of them finding and carrying rocks to the site, while others would be selecting and placing the ones that would fit into the structure. So, the pile might be where the rocks not selected (yet?) where placed. The question is, was the structure really finished, under construction, or where they ever really finished???? Or as other have said is it some kind of grave? Which brings up the question of, what did they do with their dead? Guess I will have to see what I can find about that subject....
Have you taken any anthro / archeo classes? Seems like you could have a lot of fun doing that to accompany your love for investigating these ruins. You'd be a great teacher too! None of it really matters as long as you are enjoying what you are doing.
Remember that not every pot survived the firing process and it wasn’t uncommon for the broken remnants to be collected. The broken pots can be crushed and used as a tempering agent for future pots
Gea except they didn't throw them randomly and forget about them. Plenty of tribal elders talk about other tribes wiping villages out and destroying everything. Especially their tools and pottery. This appears to be a similar destruction to that of the Mesa Verde(pre rebuilt construction of modern times), Pueblo and Navaho sites.
Oh my goodness! Thank you very much for your very generous donation to my channel! You are incredibly kind!! I'm glad you enjoy these videos. This is something I hope to be doing for a long time! -Jeff
@@TheTrekPlanner Jeff, the way you educate us, by example, with your reverence for these ancient sites is taken to heart by many of your viewers. You give us an opportunity to see what would be almost impossible for us to do on our own. And your honesty and sincerity are second to none. I am not trying to give you a big head, LOL, just saying thank you!
I thought the same as the other person who thought the pile of rocks was perhaps a grave. Good work in describing your finds. Always enjoy your authentic treks. 💕
I have been watching for a while, but just now got my Google account so I can like all of your posts. I like the way you talk. It's is very soothing. I'm enjoying all your adventures.
Remarkable find, Jeff! One of the largest I've seen - even for the Four Corners area. The pits made me think of kivas or pithouses, but then later they built rooms and walls. It is amazing. Their trash piles (miden) are usually found on the south side or southeast of the ruin. Thanks for taking this old man along for this hike and adventure.
I’m 80….i see your real in your work that’s why I’m having coffee with you. Thank you
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Thank you for being here, Dyanne! I appreciate you
@@TheTrekPlanner the pit could be for the mud, morter.. is your interested in history. watch. everything inside me.. theres a lot been hidden. seems the 2 ww. were meant to destroy history, de populate. nothing to do with quarrels. america, is not, what they tell you..
@@TheTrekPlanner the pile of stones you walked past. looked like a grave..
@@TheTrekPlanner arial shot , 15:50. lot of ''tracks'' almost centre of the triangle from outside the stone wall top. bottom right to the creek, looks like a perfect circle. could be nothing.
Desert Drifter gave a nod to you and your influence on his journeys in one of his most recent videos.
Great channel also, should be a collab
Thats so awesome! I watch them both. It would be fun to see a collaboration!!!
According to the stories of the Navajo people, when certain tribes were defeated and chased away, they would ceremonially destroy their pottery as a way to wipe away the memory of their enemy.
Or perhaps it is simply a trash pile
Certain tribes of people from the south who brought some very bad juju…
I agree! If the tribe was forced to leave, they would probably destroy their pots & maybe even parts of the structures to make them unusable by their enemies.
@@SchoolforHackersthe bad juju was all around long before any people were in the south
@@doglog5748 You don't understand. You do not know tribal oral history.
Two things: Thanks for letting us accompany you and thanks for keeping the location secure so it won't be despoiled.
Keep on trekking, little brother.
Keep on trekking! There is so much to see and explore out there! Thank you for your comment, Russ!!
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The more we discover, the more expansion and more to discover.
Just never limit the possible facts, and know that "Mainstream Academia's 19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline used as their foundation of fact" (requires Belief, and Beliefs based is Dogmatic)
Freedom of Thoughts is the true cornerstone of Science, ... and of Freedom.
Enjoy your Treks!
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*@**12:01** lower left of center there almost looks like an intact piece of pottery from above.*
I am thrilled that you use only your eyes and your camera lens to show us these beautiful sites. It gives me hope! And I love your trek notes and ponderings. Keep being curious! ❤️🌲🐿️🍄🟫
Jeff is the type of guy who you'd trust to watch your home. He is respectful and able to create content that makes you feel like you've been there every step.
8:21 also could be A midden
I really appreciate your comment! I strive to be as minimal of a visitor as possible. That's why I love using the drone, so we can get close without actually disturbing anything. Thanks for watching!
Well he also uses his hands, his feet, his ears, his legs, his arms, his car. He uses all kinds of body parts equipment, his backpack?
It is nice leaving stuff untouched; but no body is going to mind if you pick up a pottery shard to look at it. Just put it back.
I love how respectful you treat your surroundings!
In a world filled with so much strife you make my life so much calmer by taking us on your treks.
Thank you for your comment. Being outside in nature by myself or with family and friends really bring things into perspective about what really matters
Taking us on his treks and constantly brow beating us about what we should do and shouldn't do. That's literally the basis of his channel. Every video is the same, "Don't step on the cryptobiotic soil, don't disturb pot shards, don't climb on the ruins. He sounds like a broken record EVERY video. Bro just put all your nagging in the video description and make the videos about the exploration. The constant nagging really takes away from your videos.
@@Springfield-eo8jl for sure, it's like going shopping with your parents as a 5 year old - Johnny don't touch this, don't go over there, don't move that. It's pretty off-putting and condescending to the adult viewers. That said others in this genre do it too, some kind of virtue signalling they feel they need to display.
You and DesertDrifter are 2 of my favorite content creators for this sort of thing. Thanks for another great video!
I greatly appreciate how respectful you are toward the ancients, their dwellings, and possessions. Thank you for sharing. I never would have had the opportunity to learn and see those detailed aspects of the SW. God bless.
Getting to see the potshards IN SITU and left undisturbed is PRICELESS Thank you! You make it possible for the lame (me) to explore with you!
Spot on with your comparison to Chaco Canyon. The layout when you showed the google earth shot immediately screamed Chaco Anasazi to me! Great stuff Jeff thank you!
Oh my, I love starting on the hike with you with the mystery completely in the future. The highlight is when you reach the destination and you are just overwhelmed with excitement and joy. That is contagious! 😊
Glad you enjoyed it! I love doing this!!
So excited when you get someplace then too excited to put the camera settings right is so like me. Thanks Jeff - what a great video!
Agreed - great cinematography!
I am also 80 and I enjoy the thrill of exploration through your videos. I love your honesty,, and puzzling things out with you. I can't go treking, but I can see more with you than I would if I were out there. Thank you for the fun and satsfaction of discovery‼️Keep up the good work, and God bless you.
Excellent footage .
Finally, someone honest enough to tell the truth. As someone who's walked several of the same areas as Trek Planner, I can tell you he's locating the spots you don't find on a website or in a trail guide or book.
Jeff: The big rock shown at mark 5:54 on the ridge directly behind the ruin, looks like it contains a cavernous alcove, and with this large ruin, it seems that could also be worthy of investigation and could contain ruins, too! This was very interesting. The weather cycle hundreds of years ago could have provided more rain, than what exists there now, and those pits, might have been small lakes that contained water, which could have been why they built next to it! Thanks again for another great trek!
My thoughts exactly. Those ridges that surround this site look like they were perfect for further exploring and discovery.
If you choose to do so, I hope you find something else amazing and bring us along for the Trek (you see what I did there, lol).
Great eye. Thanks -
The rock that resembles a whale? I agree with you… it’s worth a look!
@thetrekplanner This is very interesting. As regards the broken pottery, I don’t know if this has any relevance or not: there is a nonfiction book called “The Lost City of the Monkey God” by Douglas Preston. They discovered lots and lots of broken pottery and the local people told them that whenever a group of their ancestors moved on to a new area, they would break all the pottery that they were leaving behind. It had something to do with their belief that spirits were trapped in the pottery. That book is set in Central America but combined with the creepy feeling you had around the broken pottery, it reminded me of that ancient practice. Who knows? Have a great weekend and thanks for all you do.
All that pottery in one spot may be a midden site or a “trash pit”. In my area they liked to camp at the top of steep hills. The hillsides are usually full of broken pottery and shell and bone. Very similar to modern day campsites unfortunately, you can usually find people’s garbage along the perimeter somewhere.
When I was still living in east Texas I found several sites exactly as you described. One of which was on some private property and I had permission to dig into it and I found several really nice points and an almost complete pipe end and tons of broken pottery but nothing of real significance. The best place by far that I found the majority of my Texas points Paleo to later archaic was along the waterline of Lake Fork. For a few years in a row there was a bad drought causing the lake to reseed several feet and you could find tons of them.
Is a midden indeed
That was my thought as well.
Is it possible that the large low walled areas could have been used for penning sheep at night? It just strikes me as a sheep fold
On this side of the Atlantic, castles commonly had a midden where all rubbish and broken plates and dishes would be dumped. A great and accessible example of this can be seen in the site of the original Louvre structure, below the ground floor of the current structure.
That one pile of rocks looked like a grave.
never know who came later and reused the stones...
There are ancient graves on an old woodland era village site that I used to live on that looked very similar to that pile of rocks.
It would be cool to think that the pits were ancient structures. I have a feeling it could be the result of pot hunters digging up the site. I hope that I'm wrong.
@@larryg7806 Whenever you dig down, you have to remove earth and pile it up beyond where you're digging. If it was pot hunters, there would be evidence of that.
If there were pot hunters they missed alot. I'm going a cowboy stole there land at the end and that's who is buried under that pile of rocks
I'm a potter and have studied Native American pottery. I've read that sometimes pots were ceremoniously broken to release the spirit of the pot.
No one better break any of my pots!! While I am alive anyway.
That explains why my bowl keeps levitating and making strange noises at me. Spirited little guy..
Thank you for letting us “hear” the silence. Love the real crunch of footsteps. The music you do insert is appropriate, not overwhelming.
My comment is that I follow you and notice others doing similar trips but I follow only you. you give the air of excitement and clearly enjoy finding or just hiking out there, whether or not you find a ruin. you always find beauty.
What I enjoy the most Jeff is your enthusiasm and joy in what your doing and want to share this with all of us . Stay safe!!🙋♀️❤
I genuinely love doing this! :-)
Thank you , for your honesty ! We are just as confused and awe struck ,and your interpretation is better than ours ! 😊
Thank you for another amazing adventure. I grew up in Arizona in the 1970s & encountered many amazing ruins & pictographs in the White Tank area. I had a respect for these areas so your approach resonates with me Jeff. Happy trails ☮️✌️
Thank you for supporting me directly through a Super Thanks!! I’m happy to hear you enjoyed this adventure!
The White Tank area is a place I have yet to explore but I really do need to take a trip to AZ soon! Thank you again! 😊
-Jeff
Who else is tickled when Jeff says 'ha' when he discovers something interesting?
Hiking and archaeology, yay. Keep on exploring, Mr Planner. 😊
Brilliant Track to the Side and its Large - nice Pottery Pieces as well - sooooo many different ones ! Great Drone Views also ! Thanks for showing Us and Yes - I think You are the Best ! Many Cheers from Australia !!!!
What a fantastic find!! It's so big. Thanks for showing us you, walking by it, from the drone!
Finallllyyy, someone actually bringing forward the ancient structures in North America. There are TONS. No one has revealed them, gov’t doesn’t care, covers up most of them in fencing etc … good work 🙏🏼
Really enjoyed this adventure! thanks for sharing.
I love watching your channel, and I appreciate that you tell us when you actually found something on Google Earth, or you are at a well known site. I don't care one way or the other whether they are well known, but I like knowing.
Authenticity is felt, Jeff and there’s no question that’s what you are all about! Thank you, again!
Another great production ,so fun😊
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Great video, Jeff! What a fascinating place. I appreciate what you're saying about your finds being authentic, and know what you mean about some of the other channels out there. Keep up the great work!
Years ago I was working with a history/archeology field school and a student asked, "What do we do if we find an arrowhead?" The archeologist said, "leave it where you found it." The tribal leader who also taught at the school said, "Pick it up, take it with you, the Indian who dropped it didn't want it anymore." I always thought that was funny. The tribal teacher is now a judge on the reservation and we've been best friends now for close to 20 years. I still side with the archeologist though :) Taking artifacts destroys context and the story is lost or broken when that item is removed. Take for example the amount of pot shards in one location. With corroborating evidence it could mean a site of pottery manufacture. Once the shards are gone that part of the story is also gone. Corroborating evidence could be evidence of kilns or even fragments of charcoal.
I think that the Indigenous leader meant one arrowhead, not 100.
Good video. This is a fresh find unlike other people who hike to common places we’ve seen before.
Thank you! I get recommended channels that visit these popular places and they say they found it on google earth. I have to laugh because we know they are being deceitful.
@@TheTrekPlannerkeep up the good work. I enjoy your channel.
I love your videos and always waiting for the new one! Thank you
Oh we all know your the most true, and authentic on TH-cam- or anywhere else. I watched one of your videos 1st. Loved it and searched and searched for others like it. There are no others for me. They don't compare. You are amazing at what you do. You have a calling. And I thank you so much for showing me these amazing places.
6:30 I think that sherd looks like Navajo/Diné (The People) pottery (Dinétah Gray, 1540-1740 AD), which was later than the pottery you’ve mostly found on camera.
The square or rectangular structures are probably Ancient Puebloan. They were there until just before the Diné were. It’s possible that the Navajos inhabited other tribes’ abandoned dwellings. The Navajo people built defenses against the Spaniards, as well as building dome-shaped structures (called hoguns), along with square and rectangular-shaped structures (called pueblitos/small pueblos), which were sometimes gated.
Great site, Jeff, and thank you for pointing out that some people visit well known places pretending they were the first ones to discover them!!
The sherds in one spot may be for a variety of reasons:
Midden pile
Firing spot where pots were made
Washed down
Food storage area
Stay safe in the heat.
Interesting layout of the site. Walls for animal enclousures maybe, like sheep, if the ruin is post 1600s?
Pot sherd distribution is a normal human thing, Consider these are like semi disposable dishware/cookware/storage vessels and they break with use. The people generally put their broken pottery in a waste midden or garbage piles.
Thank you for your comment! I didn’t touch on a midden pile but that is a great idea that I hadn’t considered when visiting!
I absolutely LOVE your channel! So interesting, and calming in a world full of noise and tribulation. Thank you so much and please becareful as you explore and up lift the spirit of those of us who can't do it anymore. 💜👍
Fascinating, there looked to be other ring patterns on the bottom right of the overlay pattern at the end of the vid. Stay safe, stay hydrated. Many thanks.
As always, it was a great and thought-provoking trip. Thank you for bringing us along.
Thanks Jeff for another great adventure 😁
I absolutely love watching your videos man! I look forward to seeing you every weekend man!
I appreciate that!! I have some really exciting things coming soon!! ;-)
@TheTrekPlanner Well thats cool man! Be safe! I cant wait to see you check out Devil's Tower, Mt Rushmore, and Crazy Horse monument!! Im sure there are great things for you to see there.
Another superb posting. I like your comparison to a Chaco canyon site. The pines line up to give the impression of streams, abandoned streams, springs and underground springs. An exploration expansion that for some reason, never grew.
This is another amazing spot you have brought us to . I am fascinated by the questions you pose and all the footage.
Love hearing the ambient sounds on your adventures, Jeff! (You even caught a ghost voice on one such trek!)
Keep relying on your clairsentience ('the feels', listening to your emotions, trusting your 'gut instinct')--no doubt what you sensed is correct about the sherds piled in one place. Trust your senses--they will always keep you safe! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thanks Jeff, you are the real deal. I appreciate the respect that you show the sites and nature. I’m one of your STG fans.👍
Wow very interesting, I love seeing these ancient sites. Thank you for being so respectful while visiting them. Keep on trekking.
As always, loved this Trek with you. It was really helpful getting an idea of the size when you were also in the drone footage.
How intriguing. This is quite a large site and the structure could have housed many people. Makes one wonder what their life was like at that time. Keep trekking!
I don't know nearly as much about ancient ruins as other commenters, but looking at this site my first impulse was 2 pens for goats or sheep + some dwelling and storage spaces for the livestock owners. The pile of rocks @6:00 could maybe have been building materials? Like, maybe these structures were never completed but the ancients left for some reason? Wonderful find, Jeff! Thanks for pursuing your curiosity and bringing us along!
Another great trip! Thanks for taking us along!
Fantastic find, Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
What exotic pottery with those designs & colors.
There's tons and tons of the exact same kind of pottery all around the area I live. Pueblo style and some earlier examples. Some of it is really cool looking.
I'm 73 and can't "do" anymore but with the younger crows doin' it now I do get to watch and sometimes research for myself. My ancient family consisted of explorers, traders of the Hudson Bay co., And more than 1 Indian grandma. I love your work and hope you keep "doing"
Another superb posting. I like your comparison to actual Chaco canyon sites. The pines line up to give the impression of streams, abandoned streams, springs and underground springs. An exploration expansion that for some reason, never grew.
Thank you for your Super Thanks!! I hadn’t noticed the trees lining up but I think you are right that there is something to that! This is why I love everyone’s comments. You bring new ideas to the table that I don’t consider 😊 Thanks again!!
-Jeff
Another wonderful adventure!! Loved the sound of the wind when you were showing the site from the air.
😊 And yet...another great hike!😊 Really enjoy seeing these places.
You are the Best Adventure The Trek Planner. I Enjoy your Hiking Experiences. You Are the most Respected Person , Experiences but not exploiting or Damaging . You will be respected by our Ancestors. Peace and Love on your Journeys. Respect.
Thanks Jeff for taking me on your journey!
One square was a building and the other an enclosed courtyard. Animals and children can be outside but safe. The pits were underground shelters/basements. IMO
Thanks for taking me along, great trip
I watch some of the other exploring videos on TH-cam, but you are my very favorite because of your honesty, integrity, and enthusiasm. You’re the best!
Ya know, if I was an archaeologist in your area I would watch your channel to get an idea of places to dig.
Hopefully not. They just grab everything and it ends up in some archive drawer.
A lot of Native tribes hate archaeologists and wont have them on their reservations. Sadly decades ago they didn’t preserve sites, just destroyed everything in their searches. I was taken to a very sacred cave in S. AZ, we hiked quite a ways to it, with great excitement and anticipation. When we got there we were completely shocked. Every bit of dirt on the floor if the cave had been removed to the bedrock, so basically it was a big circle. There was absolutely nothing whatsoever left to show it had been a sacred place. It was completely destroyed. I was extremely shocked. I had no clue whatsoever that archaeologists did that sort of thing. I grew up in AZ and lived there for 26 years. I had Native friends who took me to completely off limits, sacred places that were astonishing, that they said they would never let an archaeologist see. I was also blindfolded several times and taken to sacred caves, where the Anasazi had lived. I was told they never ever even mentioned these caves to any archaeologists. Some looked exactly like the Anasazi had lived there yesterday. Everything… literally everything, was left exactly like the people were vaporized and all their belongings were left. It was mindblowing. I have never heard any definitive theories about what happened to them, as their sites are all over, just left like that, frozen in time, especially in the caves. I am very grateful and blessed to have seen what I was honored to see.
So many mysteries when it comes to ancient people not only there but around the world.
Thanks for the cool find and thanks for being authentic. I appreciate being able to view honest content.
Thank you another great getaway. 💯😎
Jeff, awesome find! Looks isolated out there. You could be right about it being a Chaco Canyon outlier. Enjoyed your exploration and drone footage. Thanks so much for being our eyes and ears (and legs) in these adventures!
Thank you, Kathie!!
Thank you for taking us along with you!
I think you nailed it. A water source nearby, Walls, meeting areas. Probably individual resident's. Must have been a small town. Very cool Jeff!!!
Was on big mountain quite a few years ago and the residents there took us around to look at bunch of old ruins. Nearly every old foundation had hundreds of pot sherds strewn from one doorway on just one side of the dwelling. They said that was the way they disposed of the old broken pots. They also said not to touch the pieces as they would cause sores.
All those times and I thought you only speak English 😂, then suddenly Cebuano mixed in with the hat 🤣 Priceless! If the ruin has been that old, ie more than 700 years, one can only imagine the grandeur and the view of this homestead! Perfect subsistence location when there are plenty of springs nearby but very temporary at best!
I’m glad you noticed the Cebuano! amping! :-)
I always enjoy your adventures and thank you for allowing us to tag along. 😊
I'm remembering running into a whole group of Indians camping in a large grove of Pinion Pines. It was late in September & they said they harvested pine nuts every year. They invited us to participate & those nuts were fabulous. I'm wondering if this could be an ancient harvest site since there are lots of pinion pines. This was really interesting. The world holds lots of mysteries. Thanks for this one.
That's a great site you found, Jeff! Thanks for taking us along!
What a wonderful find! Love all your adventures and your respect for what you find. Thoroughly enjoyed today's hike. Have a great day!
Thank you for your kind comment!
Thanks ! 🎉
Really liked the drone footage !
FEEP ON TREK ' EN ! 😊
Thanks for taking us along. You are real nice work
At about 6 minutes, the pile of rocks: It seems to me that to build such a structure would require a large number of people many of them finding and carrying rocks to the site, while others would be selecting and placing the ones that would fit into the structure. So, the pile might be where the rocks not selected (yet?) where placed.
The question is, was the structure really finished, under construction, or where they ever really finished????
Or as other have said is it some kind of grave? Which brings up the question of, what did they do with their dead? Guess I will have to see what I can find about that subject....
Jeff, thanks to you I now have a strong desire to travel, hike and explore. I enjoy your adventures and am grateful you take us along!
Thank you for sharing your treks. Love following along.❤
Have you taken any anthro / archeo classes? Seems like you could have a lot of fun doing that to accompany your love for investigating these ruins. You'd be a great teacher too! None of it really matters as long as you are enjoying what you are doing.
Amazing to wonder over with you Jeff. Thanks so much for taking us with you. Thank you for your respect of these sights.
Fantastic filming and storytelling man, this looks and sounds like a documentary! Love it 👏👏
Awesome find! Thank you for sharing 😊
Remember that not every pot survived the firing process and it wasn’t uncommon for the broken remnants to be collected. The broken pots can be crushed and used as a tempering agent for future pots
My thoughts also
That is good to remember!
Good point.
Gea except they didn't throw them randomly and forget about them. Plenty of tribal elders talk about other tribes wiping villages out and destroying everything. Especially their tools and pottery. This appears to be a similar destruction to that of the Mesa Verde(pre rebuilt construction of modern times), Pueblo and Navaho sites.
Great! I’m just having coffee , found you pop up…watch for your trips…imiss the northern bush in Canada…your my trips!
Thank you for sharing yet another wonderful site you visited.
Thank you for taking us along on this interesting trek!👍👍👍
Wow that’s huge! You standing there really shows the scale.
Thanks! Thank you for sharing so many beautiful places with us.
Oh my goodness! Thank you very much for your very generous donation to my channel! You are incredibly kind!! I'm glad you enjoy these videos. This is something I hope to be doing for a long time!
-Jeff
@@TheTrekPlanner Jeff, the way you educate us, by example, with your reverence for these ancient sites is taken to heart by many of your viewers. You give us an opportunity to see what would be almost impossible for us to do on our own. And your honesty and sincerity are second to none. I am not trying to give you a big head, LOL, just saying thank you!
I may not be the best presenter or the best speaker, but I just love exploring and I'm happy you're here with me along the way :-)
I thought the same as the other person who thought the pile of rocks was perhaps a grave. Good work in describing your finds. Always enjoy your authentic treks. 💕
Thanks for another cool trek.
I’m so glad you enjoyed this trek! This is probably one of my all time favorites. Thanks for supporting me! 🙏🙏
-Jeff
I have been watching for a while, but just now got my Google account so I can like all of your posts. I like the way you talk. It's is very soothing. I'm enjoying all your adventures.
I love going on these adventures with you. Keep it real, stay safe
Remarkable find, Jeff! One of the largest I've seen - even for the Four Corners area. The pits made me think of kivas or pithouses, but then later they built rooms and walls. It is amazing. Their trash piles (miden) are usually found on the south side or southeast of the ruin. Thanks for taking this old man along for this hike and adventure.