@@irend1163 nop she wasnt alone, she had Mobius when doing the experiments, also had specific persons for each of her plans, she counted on some, is just she was the "big brain" just for name it.
she doesnt trust in plot armor smh , if kiana can solo HoS then(with spiritual support) , why mei need to worry about kiana at first place. altho maybe it was used as plot device to made kiana stronger idk.
Kevin's logic makes sense but there's one thing wrong here: The Kiana we know and have seen is not a real Kaslana--she is a clone of Sirin and was bred to essentially hold and weaponize the Herrscher Cores. Even if she has resolved her inner demons, there is still the fact that the game's events were started because of her so, given her maturity and reolution, she seems like the person who will gladly resolve to seal herself away on the moon with the rest of the Honkai as atonement for her past deeds, interference from friends and family be damned. The fact she grasped the Kaslana philosophy so eagerly to be worthy of love in Siegfried's eyes would have made no difference if she was going to find out and regret her existence. Mei prodding Kevin on this makes no sense since Mei also knows Kiana is a clone.
@@nothyme7114 Kevin:"Im not even sure if shes my descendant but ok" *elysian realm breaks with white haired girl saying NEEEKOOOO CHAARM* "LETS GET MARRIED NOW MEI SENPAI"
while everyone is mentioning Kallen, Siegfried and Kiana let's also not forget Theresa Apocalypse. She's a clone of Kallen so that would make her a Kaslana too, Otto just gave her his lastname 😑😑😑 him and his obsession
@@Draightmare i mean Kiana herself isn't real Kiana But for defense, Sieg does save him from laboratory and raising her for a while and she knows what Kaslana bloodline mission from Sieg too
@@the3rdolenyevasibling225 no the splicing was directly from Real Kiana only. that's why K-423 looks like Kiana as if they were identical twins. if only Theresa wasn't stuck on child age she would've looked exactly like Kallen.
"All my sins, stop from me." Kevin is a huge sinner than Kiana, and he cannot give his burden to anyone because no one can carry it, and no one will accept that burden. SU isn't Durandal, that's why he regrets much when Durandal shows him another way. He died with regrets but now, battling with the Governor
If you read the Manga about Kallen, there was one page showed that most Kaslana members during Kallen time were either died on battle or by plague The family that is pretty much burning their life away to protect humankind ...
@@elrianarseid7398 That's false though. Kevin and his son Adam along with other survivors woke up from cryosleep a few thousand years before the Current Era. So Kaslanas didn't exist for 50k years.
@@ValD98 is not like Kevin would ask a thing, he doesnt care at all and he pretty much guess how much Mei loves her thats why he pushed her to make that decision.
@@mudmuncher776 and yet Kiana even now would never hesitate to call Mei her friend in spite of everything that went down. That lengthy pause before Mei calls Kiana her friend (as if she’s still mentally weighing whether she even has permission to call her such at this point) is proof that HoD’s puppets had her pegged in the Theater, and no matter how much of a positive spin Mei puts on how she knows how Kiana would react after the fight, it’s very clear she hasn’t forgiven herself, especially since she has admitted she should have handled their parting differently. That momentary pause really fuels my speculation even further that when their paths finally cross and Mei can no longer hide from Kiana that it’s going to be a very ugly moment for Mei as the weight of all that guilt she’s been bearing finally comes crashing down on her, and Kiana’s kindness and forgiveness and insistence that “it’s time to come home” crush her even further. Mei will insist she doesn’t deserve any of that and she should be left to walk her isolated path, which is going to lead to their rematch, but unlike last time, this time it’s a fight that Mei can’t possibly win. I’m dying to hear Kiana end the fight with something like “I don’t need you to be my sinner anymore - I’m strong enough bear them myself. After all, it’s what I promised Sirin I’d do after I defeated her.”
@@jdoggivjc honestly i m highly doubting things will go back as they were before between kiana and mei, yeah they will remain very good friends but things just wont stay the same there will be a gap I will actually enjoy it more if the gap always remains it shows how something once broken can never go back to normal and they must live with it
Kevin : Holding sin resulting to Elysian Realm Kallen : Holding sin resulting to HI3 Kiana : Holding sin resulting to make every captain drawn in HI3 That's it kid. Be a Kaslana. You will be always a main character. The difference is just you will become Harem MC, immortal virgin or just that *dede* aunt.
@@lunaria2505 well on Kevins defense.. he tried fighting and he knows it was pointless they couldnt beat HotE, thats why the drastic measure he did take, but it seems something changed in him and seems he will try other methods perhaps??.
@@SaraGon15 Kevin is in despair, he already tried everything. He is the strongest of humanity and was unable to defeat 14th. Project Ark, Valuka, Ember... As far as he knows were all failure (He doesn't know that Su found a solution and gave Sumeru to Bianka). It got to the point his only choice was Stigma. Dude saw humanity downfall and almost complete extermination. He was the strongest they had, leader of Mantis and he still failed (Seeing a lot of friends die in the process). He is doing stigma because, for now, he thinks is the only option. Shicksal doesn't seem to have a big weapon against 14, neither AE. (Durandal is their strongest and her power is like 1% of Kevin's) So he carries on with Stigma. But it's more like, he can't find other options than he is just a sadistic without feelings. Kevin doesn't want to do Stigma (You can read on one of his memories how devastating his mental state was when he got responsibility over Stigma. Su promised him he would do Valuka so Kevin wouldn't have to carry the weight of a genocide, and he thanks Su for not letting him carry this alone), that's why he let Su seal him in the Sea of Quanta without resistance. He spent thousands of years in there, waiting that Su would find another solution, but when he got out, he thought that nothing changed and Stigma is still the only option. (I think Su found the answer and died 2 years before Kevin got free). He is not a bad guy, he's just in despair. It is kinda sad how all Kaslanas have a oath to protect the weak and never do injustice, yet the first Kaslana is bound by the weight of doing a plan so barbaric as stigma.
@@noir6171 oh i know about it, thats why i said in his defense he knows is pointless to fight HotE as how they are.., ofc he knows despair he pretty much saw the world ending all his friends dying and not counting the love of his life. But what i meant is he changed a lil in his attitude thats all.
Wait, isn't that what Mei's literally doing right now? Kiana learned her lesson and relies on the people around her now, while Mei's still at WS doing who knows what, isolated from her friends.
It's a way to see it I guess. But Mei doesn't have a choice. Joining the serpents was her part in her contract with Kevin to save Kiana. If she didn't have joined them, they wouldn't help her. Kiana, on the other way, usually refused help from her friends and chose to carry everything alone because she was afraid of what Sirin might do to them. Plus now Mei is finding useful information on ER that she and the others girls can use to understand and fight future herrschers.
Well mei still trusts the girls like when they faced HoD, she knows that they can complete their mission. So even though mei herself has become the lone wolf, unlike kiana back then, she actually trusts in her friends no matter how dangerous the situation is.
To be fair it is Kiana's fault that Mei is at WS. Kiana wanted to kill herself after she found out about her being Sirin and as Sirin she killed millions in 2000 at 2nd eruption. If she accepted it sooner that she's Sirin and has to make things right like in ch25 Mei wouldn't need to leave
This seems like a better question to ask the real Kevin instead of the simulated Kevin from ER. This Kevin only has memories up until the moment he entered the cryopod, there’s no way he would know whether or not he has descandants
but based on the manga, if you really implied 'until the moment he entered the crypod', dr. mei made a baby tube with hers and kevin's gene so he should be knowledge the baby existence
Well, according to the simulated Kevin, he will remain the same as long as he lives. That's why he gave an hypothetical answer, which is kinda on point too seeing how uninterested he is with his bloodline even at the present, as if he cut himself away so all sin ends with him.
@@koatuo the moment of the synced memories at ER is unknown, if you play ER up to fighting mobius, you will realize that they sync their memory periodically. The baby was given just before he entered the cyropod, I doubt he would have synced his memories into ER at that moment.
The fact Mei just sighing before she's says that makes it funnier. It's almost like she's literally breaking the 4th wall and realized the censors is there! 👏😂
This little Pause before the word "Friend".... its the little things that make the Game, World and Characters so fing AMAZING. Was it needed to make Mei sound like this? no and yet they did it anyway just to put more weight into how she mentions Kiana.
*Mei:* Trying to carry everything on your own shoulders... A typical and annoying trait of you Kaslanas. _(eight years later)_ *Theresa:* Don't _try to carry everything on your shoulders._ I'm speaking as a friend, not the Overseer. Does anyone notice the irony here?
Kevin is the absolute chad, even then and now he shoulders every sin that previous humanity created, while taking revenge on the incomprehensible phenomenon known as the honkai, still one of the favorite characters not close to my baby girl Sirin ofc 🗿
Meanwhile Mei goes to world serpent, leaves her friends behind just to save kiana and now tries to find the truth all by herself "A annoying habit of you kaslanas" 👏👏
she's finding out the truth of the world and of the past era while company are winning by luck. don't even deny it. SS was an insult to Senti. it's like she said, she beats them in every single category yet she still lost. HOD should've won very easily but ofc, LOVE wins it all. on screen it looks lovely. on common sense, the main cast have been winning by LUCK. the Villain did far more than the actual heroes!!!
Kaslanas giving their all to protect the world, yet those close to them chose to destroy the world in order to protect them. The frustrating conundrum this theme goes.
I think it’s really interesting that this implies that there weren’t surnames in the previous era. Like how do they keep track of people without it? I have questions and mei isn’t asking them…
I actually... Never thought about it. But now that you said it, indeed, every character I can think about past era (Fu Hua, Su, Kevin, Elysia, Mobius, Klein, Kalpas, Eden, Dr.MEI, Himeko)... None of them have surnames.. lol I never noticed it. Good observation.
Its also interesting that everyone in ER calls Fu Hua just Hua! Are they just using Hua like a nickname or was her name just Hua in the PE? Where did the name Fu Hua come from?
I think Kevin here is bullshitting his way here, so like we're there only around a thousand people in the world before honkai in ancient civilization? I mean Fu hua has a mentor and she had a surname, Murata So him not knowing surnames definitely comes as a lie OR as a erosion in memory
Apparently, none of the memeber in Kaslana clan pay attention in biology class. We human manage to climb to the top of animal kingdom is not by someone carrying the whole specis forward. It is because we work together as a whole to move forward. Lol
the reason why the kevin sim doesnt know why he has descendants was because the sim was made before mei died. when mei died, she created the baby using kevin and her genes. the elysian realm was made after the herrscher of binding(11th). Dr Mei died during the battle against the final herrscher(13th)
@@hasefharris357 yea i got that wrong and that's on me but spare me your condescencion. no one has all the time to keep up with all the lore, let's be real 🙄
Kevin being Kevin even after he transcend the finality. He cares none about this world, but for the sake of responsibility alone, he still carry them on his shoulder.. Typical kaslana moment
I can already FEEL the migraine that Dr.mei had with Kevin around the time they were together. For Raiden, it’s like a cosmic joke. Like, real fuckin funny 😂😂😂😂
2:28 Cecilia was the first to come to my mind, but she was from another bloodline. Idk why. Maybe because she was Siegfried's wife. Come to think of it, Siegfried also did carry the burden all by himself, ultimately leaving Kiana. 🙈
Oh yeah, now that I think about it, the manga for Judgement of Shamash also mentioned that after he woke up from his cryosleep, he introduced himself as "Kaslana" to the humans of the CE but his actual full name wasn't mentioned, only that his name was Kevin.
If you uninstall it and reinstall it again I think you can continue with the story, it worked for me, most of the space it occupies is due to the events of the game. Sorry if my english is not correct 😓
Kaslana is one of the three famous royal families of the Current Era, so I don't know what Mei expected. Nothing cultural survived the Previous Era, only the anti-Honkai measures Hua, Fuxi, and Nuwa taught everyone through Project Ember.
Fun Fact: in Mihoyo's previous game: Houkai Gakuen 2, Kevin Kaslana is the alternate universe/Genderbent version of Kiana. In his Universe, Kiana is Kevin and Mei was his lover (emphasis on "WAS" since she died in that universe)
@@Jorge_Alvarado In Houkai Gakuen 2/GGZ, Kevin had to kill his lover, Mei in his own world. He of course was filled with regret and then travelled into multiple timelines to find a way to save her but was forced to always kill Mei in every timeline he went into. It's in one of the timeline that he met his female counterpart, Kiana who had also been sent into a different timeline iirc.
She is a descendant of him. Kevin is the first Kaslana. Kallen, Siegfried, Kiana... All of them are his descendants, so he is like her great great great great grandpa c:
Kevin: *there's no way i have any descendants* Bruh, the baby you carrying in your hand is your son made by your genes -> wait what? So you are virgin Kevin
Dr. MEI made a baby using his and her Dna. It was a test tube baby (so there were no physical contact) and he didn't know about it until his last day on past era, where dr. MEI died and left the baby to him.
@@anthonydavix Siren take over because of otto, she kill a lot of people before himeko stop her and after the event when kiana stop the bomb in the city she take a lot of damage and her honkai energy was too high, its was not only Killing her but also she was loosing control and sirine coule have take her body and once again fck everybody so yeah she was a bomb that could go off at any moment that were kevin attack her and fu hua protect her ( personnally i think that mihoyo fk up all little bit her, because when kevin say too the other member of world serpent to let kiana to him, i thout that he was going to talk with her and not try to kill her) oh well
Idk but when i was thinking about, WHAT IF kiana meet kevin... I found this video and i excited that fact kaslana's always carry everythinh on his/her shoulders ":v
Did they ever explain why they all look so dang young? Like Otto is 500 years old and doesn’t look a day over 30. Theresa is the head of a school and looks 12. I must have missed something here right?
Mantis don't age, they are practically immortal beings. This is due they are no longer humans, they passed through a "surgery" and had their dna mixed with honkai beasts (Each Mantis have a different honkai beast, like Kevin's Parvati or SU Mahamayuri). That's why they are really strong and hard to kill, they also have regeneration abilities. For Otto, he just keeps creating clones of himself and changing bodies whenever the older one gets damaged. Theresa also is a experiment, she was created using Kallen's Dna and a honkai beast (Vishnu, if I'm not mistaken), her age stoped at 12 years old, because Vishnu also has great regeneration abilities.
@@irend1163 I believe they used the power of the Abyss Flower. This question is brought up in the new open world when Tesla, Dudu and Theresa investigate it. But I could be mistaken tho
He had, but I think his Elysian Realm sim doesn't know this, he found out about the baby on his last day on past era. He thinks he can't have descendants because he can't touch anyone without hurting them because of how low his body temperature is.
@@user-wv6yg7ul1f Adam was created using his genes and dna, it may not be a natural born baby, but it's still a baby made from him. If he was made from Kevin, with Kevin and MEI's genes (I mean a baby is basically a being made with a mix of both their father and mother genes, even if the baby is born naturally or not, like artificial insemination or test tube), it can be consider his descendant, even if it's not a natural born baby.
@@user-wv6yg7ul1f it's the same idea as a artificial insemination or a sperm donor. Dr. Mei took Kevin's DNA and combined their DNA to make a child. Kevin and Dr. MEI didn't procreate but the child is biologically Kevin's because it contains his DNA. Nowadays in real world, and especially in honkai previous era with the incredible technology, two people don't have to actually procreate to make babies because there are alternative ways to. Granted what Dr mei did was fairly extraordinary since she completly test tubed a baby without sperm and using just DNA but it's the same deal. SIM Kevin doesn't know he has a child because he out found afterwards and it was done without his knowledge. TLDR it's a highly advanced era of course it's possible to have a child without even knowing or participating. Adam is biologically Kevin's child, not adopted or unrelated. In saying that being family through blood or biology doesn't necessarily mean you consider them family. If your mum hooked up with a random dude and he's your biological dad, but you've never met him before and know nothing about him would you consider him your dad? Depends on the person's perspective
@@RandomL0s3r kinda unfair comparison since ER hua constantly erase her memory. ER Su in other hand had memory of who survived the final herrscher but then this dude predict future so the memory probably from his prediction. In conclusion I didn't know how often ER update their sim
i don't get why some people bash mei for what she did. if the most important person in your life is trying to kill themselves , wouldn't you save them too even if you had to do it forcefully? or are those people saying they didn't mind kiana dying?
So hold on, I haven't played for a long time (now that i started again on PC), so basically, Kevin didn't know that Siegfried, whom he's taken the Shamash from, is an Kaslana?
The Flame Chasers in the Elysian Realm are all copies uploaded just before the old world ended, so they know nothing of the new world. Even Fu Hua is her young and shy self from the old era there.
It's the same thing. To start with, Kevin never had a child of his own. Dr. MEI created a baby with Kevin's genes. That baby is the true starting point of the Kaslana bloodline, not Kevin. And also Kiana is a clone, she still has Kaslana genes, so she is an actual Kaslana descendant.
@@1idd0kun umm what? First you said Kaslana is not Kevin's descendant despite having his dna, and then you said Kiana is still a Kaslana descendant because she have Kaslana dna Make up your mind bro
Kevin: If you’re referring to “Kaslana”, it was never used in the old times.” Dr. MEI would beg to differ, considering she literally called him Kevin Kaslana in the ch 17 backstory cutscene.
Yes i also confuse about this. All of the sim in elysian realm has the memories of all flame chasers before they fight the 14th but why sim kevin said he is not a kaslana?
First Kaslana and father of all Kaslanas. He is a past era warrior (Same as Fu Hua), killed a bunch of herrschers (1 to 6 herrscher while still being human) but failed to defeat 14th herrscher. The Kaslana bloodline is made after him, using his and past era Dr. MEI Dna (That's why they are all really strong and have white hair - blue eyes). He is basically the strongest soldier of humanity and the strongest character within Honkai-verse (Honkai impact 3rd, not inclunding ggz), losing only to 14th herrscher. He used to be the leader of Flame-chasers/MANTIs soldiers on past era, but currently he is the leader of World Serpent/Jörmungandr organization (The same Mei, Raven and Jackal are part of right now), called "Sire" by them.
I have unlocked this part but doesn't have any dubs on it also with memory 7 and 8 on his vessel and others. Anyone have the same problem? I'm playing in SEA
I like how fed up mei is with the kaslanas handling everything on their own
It's the genetics lmao
Also PE Mei: handling everything on her own
@@irend1163 nop she wasnt alone, she had Mobius when doing the experiments, also had specific persons for each of her plans, she counted on some, is just she was the "big brain" just for name it.
Yeah she was forced into the world serpent because of it so yeah I can imagine
she doesnt trust in plot armor smh , if kiana can solo HoS then(with spiritual support) , why mei need to worry about kiana at first place.
altho maybe it was used as plot device to made kiana stronger idk.
Kiana : "Grandpa"
Kevin : "Do I look like?"
oji-san😂
dilf
Kiana: *Great great x100 grandpa!*
Kevin: #*%*#+#^#**##
Kiana : Hey great20x Grandpa!
Kevin : *Triggered*
Only Pure Innocent Kiana (White Comet) will call him Grandpa
"You don't have to care about your bloodline, my sins stop with me."
His entire bloodline: "lmao no."
Siegfried: I can produce ice and Honkai trigger, and my adopted daughter is a Herrscher, so Hell no, it doesn't stop with you.
our sins (ussr anthem)
Kevin really needs to revise the Kaslana's Oath...
@@Michael_Breiter same to his ancestor
Kevin's logic makes sense but there's one thing wrong here:
The Kiana we know and have seen is not a real Kaslana--she is a clone of Sirin and was bred to essentially hold and weaponize the Herrscher Cores.
Even if she has resolved her inner demons, there is still the fact that the game's events were started because of her so, given her maturity and reolution, she seems like the person who will gladly resolve to seal herself away on the moon with the rest of the Honkai as atonement for her past deeds, interference from friends and family be damned.
The fact she grasped the Kaslana philosophy so eagerly to be worthy of love in Siegfried's eyes would have made no difference if she was going to find out and regret her existence.
Mei prodding Kevin on this makes no sense since Mei also knows Kiana is a clone.
"alright grandpa now can I have your blessing to marry her?"
This is canon you can't change my mind
@@nothyme7114
Kevin:"Im not even sure if shes my descendant but ok"
*elysian realm breaks with white haired girl saying NEEEKOOOO CHAARM*
"LETS GET MARRIED NOW MEI SENPAI"
Ahhahaha
This is funny because Kevin's Era Mei and him were a couple.
@@KianaK0423 WAIT WHAT KEVIN AND MEI WERE A COUPLE OR AM I READING THIS WRONG
Mei be like "Fuck this Kaslana bullshit"
Basically
Yeah....sorry
Also mei: *protect kiana*
More like, "all Kaslanas are idiots, just a bunch of selfless self-sacrificing idiots."
@@Michael_Breiter it all start with kevin xd.
while everyone is mentioning Kallen, Siegfried and Kiana let's also not forget Theresa Apocalypse. She's a clone of Kallen so that would make her a Kaslana too, Otto just gave her his lastname 😑😑😑 him and his obsession
well yes but no
i mean, kaslana is the house, not something in the DNA, sure Theresa also behaves a bit like a kaslana, but she's an Apocalypse like Otto
@@Draightmare i mean Kiana herself isn't real Kiana
But for defense, Sieg does save him from laboratory and raising her for a while and she knows what Kaslana bloodline mission from Sieg too
@@rei_hsym I thought K-423 was made from splicing Cecilia Shariac's and Siegfried Kaslana's DNA and they just put a herrscher core in her.
@@the3rdolenyevasibling225 no the splicing was directly from Real Kiana only. that's why K-423 looks like Kiana as if they were identical twins.
if only Theresa wasn't stuck on child age she would've looked exactly like Kallen.
"All my sins, stop from me."
Kevin is a huge sinner than Kiana, and he cannot give his burden to anyone because no one can carry it, and no one will accept that burden. SU isn't Durandal, that's why he regrets much when Durandal shows him another way. He died with regrets but now, battling with the Governor
The sad thing is that Su once promised to help Kevin with Project Stigmata if it cane down to it, the same way Dudu did with her "Kevin"
How does su knows dudu ?
@@BlackISoutGoldISin They met in the Second Divine Key Manga(?)
@@BlackISoutGoldISin read the manga
What sin did Kevin do?
If you read the Manga about Kallen, there was one page showed that most Kaslana members during Kallen time were either died on battle or by plague
The family that is pretty much burning their life away to protect humankind ...
Considering that constitution, it's amazing the family always survive for generation and generation right.. like.. what.. 5000 years?
@@NeroZeroes 50000 years
@@elrianarseid7398 crazy 50k years of do or die and still exists 🤣🤣
@@kouyashizuka2760 yeah... Blame Kevin.
@@elrianarseid7398 That's false though. Kevin and his son Adam along with other survivors woke up from cryosleep a few thousand years before the Current Era. So Kaslanas didn't exist for 50k years.
2:26 Mei: "There it is... Yep. Definitely a Kaslana thing."
Mei is so fed up with Kiana taking on the responsibility all for herself lmaoooo
A typical and annoying trait of the Kaslanas 😂😂
@@saya_pakupaku if I see my bae trying to sacrifice herself multiple times, I'd be annoyed too lol
Like ancestor,like descendant
Mei on point.
Kaslana moment 🗿 looking at you Siegfried.
That deep breath before she called Kiana a freind is another Muhoyo writing trick where they adress their love while the censorship persists.
Ik 😂
🥲
I think it's partially because she wants to spare Kevin the details. Lover denotes more attachment than friend.
@@ValD98 well that and censorship :P
@@ValD98 is not like Kevin would ask a thing, he doesnt care at all and he pretty much guess how much Mei loves her thats why he pushed her to make that decision.
I like the little pause when Mei mentioned Kiana
We all know what Mei means when she says "friends" ;)
Calling her a friend now is a bit difficult for her now i bet due to everything that happened in the animated cutscene of kiana vs mei
She was gonna say girlfriend... But too embarrassed lol...
@@mudmuncher776 and yet Kiana even now would never hesitate to call Mei her friend in spite of everything that went down.
That lengthy pause before Mei calls Kiana her friend (as if she’s still mentally weighing whether she even has permission to call her such at this point) is proof that HoD’s puppets had her pegged in the Theater, and no matter how much of a positive spin Mei puts on how she knows how Kiana would react after the fight, it’s very clear she hasn’t forgiven herself, especially since she has admitted she should have handled their parting differently.
That momentary pause really fuels my speculation even further that when their paths finally cross and Mei can no longer hide from Kiana that it’s going to be a very ugly moment for Mei as the weight of all that guilt she’s been bearing finally comes crashing down on her, and Kiana’s kindness and forgiveness and insistence that “it’s time to come home” crush her even further. Mei will insist she doesn’t deserve any of that and she should be left to walk her isolated path, which is going to lead to their rematch, but unlike last time, this time it’s a fight that Mei can’t possibly win. I’m dying to hear Kiana end the fight with something like “I don’t need you to be my sinner anymore - I’m strong enough bear them myself. After all, it’s what I promised Sirin I’d do after I defeated her.”
@@jdoggivjc honestly i m highly doubting things will go back as they were before between kiana and mei, yeah they will remain very good friends but things just wont stay the same there will be a gap
I will actually enjoy it more if the gap always remains it shows how something once broken can never go back to normal and they must live with it
Previous Era Mei, Mei, and Otto have something in common:
They all love a Kaslana and are tired of them doing things on their own
The fact that there is a prev era mei says alot about kaslanas
@@Mishax. but they aren't the same person, I mean they just shared a name, no blood or any connections
@@weburningcoals3355 yeah i know thats the joke
@@Mishax. i- I guess it flew over my head 😓
@@weburningcoals3355 xD
By the Judgement of Shamash, Kaslanas die and never yield... And generically remain stubborn, I guess.
I can imagine Siegfried say dat lmao
Kevin : Holding sin resulting to Elysian Realm
Kallen : Holding sin resulting to HI3
Kiana : Holding sin resulting to make every captain drawn in HI3
That's it kid. Be a Kaslana. You will be always a main character. The difference is just you will become Harem MC, immortal virgin or just that *dede* aunt.
Where can I sign up for joining under Kaslana name
Yeah actually i'll gladly become a Kaslana even though i'd be destined to die miserablely at least i died a Chad.
Kaslana is such a cursed and lucky sur name bcoz it will be up to you to have such disaster but you will have such power
@@icariamcgordon358 hold a sin
What about Siegfried ?
Kevin: I don't have any descendants.
Dr. MEI: As if I didn't make you a whole damn baby...
Kevin, Kallen and Kiana all have the weight of the world on their shoulders and they just want to save their world from Honkai
But their path different
@@lunaria2505 well on Kevins defense.. he tried fighting and he knows it was pointless they couldnt beat HotE, thats why the drastic measure he did take, but it seems something changed in him and seems he will try other methods perhaps??.
@@SaraGon15 Kevin is in despair, he already tried everything. He is the strongest of humanity and was unable to defeat 14th. Project Ark, Valuka, Ember... As far as he knows were all failure (He doesn't know that Su found a solution and gave Sumeru to Bianka). It got to the point his only choice was Stigma. Dude saw humanity downfall and almost complete extermination. He was the strongest they had, leader of Mantis and he still failed (Seeing a lot of friends die in the process). He is doing stigma because, for now, he thinks is the only option. Shicksal doesn't seem to have a big weapon against 14, neither AE. (Durandal is their strongest and her power is like 1% of Kevin's) So he carries on with Stigma. But it's more like, he can't find other options than he is just a sadistic without feelings. Kevin doesn't want to do Stigma (You can read on one of his memories how devastating his mental state was when he got responsibility over Stigma. Su promised him he would do Valuka so Kevin wouldn't have to carry the weight of a genocide, and he thanks Su for not letting him carry this alone), that's why he let Su seal him in the Sea of Quanta without resistance. He spent thousands of years in there, waiting that Su would find another solution, but when he got out, he thought that nothing changed and Stigma is still the only option. (I think Su found the answer and died 2 years before Kevin got free). He is not a bad guy, he's just in despair. It is kinda sad how all Kaslanas have a oath to protect the weak and never do injustice, yet the first Kaslana is bound by the weight of doing a plan so barbaric as stigma.
@@noir6171 oh i know about it, thats why i said in his defense he knows is pointless to fight HotE as how they are.., ofc he knows despair he pretty much saw the world ending all his friends dying and not counting the love of his life. But what i meant is he changed a lil in his attitude thats all.
@@SaraGon15 Yeah, I just wanted to add more to the conversation haha! But I agree c: It's kinda sad see him in this path tho
Kevin just straight up described his entire bloodline in one sentence lmao
Wait, isn't that what Mei's literally doing right now? Kiana learned her lesson and relies on the people around her now, while Mei's still at WS doing who knows what, isolated from her friends.
It's a way to see it I guess. But Mei doesn't have a choice. Joining the serpents was her part in her contract with Kevin to save Kiana. If she didn't have joined them, they wouldn't help her. Kiana, on the other way, usually refused help from her friends and chose to carry everything alone because she was afraid of what Sirin might do to them. Plus now Mei is finding useful information on ER that she and the others girls can use to understand and fight future herrschers.
Well mei still trusts the girls like when they faced HoD, she knows that they can complete their mission. So even though mei herself has become the lone wolf, unlike kiana back then, she actually trusts in her friends no matter how dangerous the situation is.
To be fair it is Kiana's fault that Mei is at WS.
Kiana wanted to kill herself after she found out about her being Sirin and as Sirin she killed millions in 2000 at 2nd eruption.
If she accepted it sooner that she's Sirin and has to make things right like in ch25 Mei wouldn't need to leave
@@BigBoss-gb4cx you make it seem like it was easy and human emotions don't exist.
@@BigBoss-gb4cx Its not as easy as you think it is
Mei's gonna be real mad when she learns that Kiana only learned the power of friendship in order to become strong enough to solo her fights as HOF
Lmao.
yeah imagine mei seeing kiana with 2 cores and 2 gems and just thinking all the work she had to do to take just one gem from her before
This seems like a better question to ask the real Kevin instead of the simulated Kevin from ER. This Kevin only has memories up until the moment he entered the cryopod, there’s no way he would know whether or not he has descandants
but based on the manga, if you really implied 'until the moment he entered the crypod', dr. mei made a baby tube with hers and kevin's gene so he should be knowledge the baby existence
Well, according to the simulated Kevin, he will remain the same as long as he lives. That's why he gave an hypothetical answer, which is kinda on point too seeing how uninterested he is with his bloodline even at the present, as if he cut himself away so all sin ends with him.
@@koatuo the moment of the synced memories at ER is unknown, if you play ER up to fighting mobius, you will realize that they sync their memory periodically. The baby was given just before he entered the cyropod, I doubt he would have synced his memories into ER at that moment.
I think he knows, but he never named their Child before entering the cryopod.
@@moores4415 a late reply but Dr.MEI already told Kevin in her final letter that the baby would be named Adam in honor of the first human.
Mei: "I have a…"
Censors: "Yes? A what?"
Mei: "A frieeeeend…"
Mihoyo love their "you know what we meant" pauses
The fact Mei just sighing before she's says that makes it funnier.
It's almost like she's literally breaking the 4th wall and realized the censors is there! 👏😂
Oh? So does tha means that their lovers?
@@ChaolaoFueChi they’re heavily implied to be in love with each other
This little Pause before the word "Friend".... its the little things that make the Game, World and Characters so fing AMAZING. Was it needed to make Mei sound like this? no and yet they did it anyway just to put more weight into how she mentions Kiana.
*Mei:* Trying to carry everything on your own shoulders... A typical and annoying trait of you Kaslanas.
_(eight years later)_
*Theresa:* Don't _try to carry everything on your shoulders._ I'm speaking as a friend, not the Overseer.
Does anyone notice the irony here?
She changed her surname to Kaslana, I guess.
@@Leona_tf i guess it's because kiana and her got married, noe she's officially mei kaslana.
Kevin is the absolute chad, even then and now he shoulders every sin that previous humanity created, while taking revenge on the incomprehensible phenomenon known as the honkai, still one of the favorite characters not close to my baby girl Sirin ofc 🗿
the deep breath to call kiana a friend...
it hurts
Mei be like : "Bruh, not wirh that Kaslana bullshit again -_-"
Kevin: you don't have to care about your bloodline. All my sins stop with me
Later in front of the mirror
Kevin: ...I'm so cool
that definitely happened 😭😭😭
Well... he really is cool
At this point I believe everyone in Honkai is carrying the will of Kaslana no matter what their bloodline are, even Apho Adam
Will of ✨being the main character ✨
Meanwhile Mei goes to world serpent, leaves her friends behind just to save kiana and now tries to find the truth all by herself
"A annoying habit of you kaslanas" 👏👏
she's finding out the truth of the world and of the past era while company are winning by luck. don't even deny it. SS was an insult to Senti. it's like she said, she beats them in every single category yet she still lost. HOD should've won very easily but ofc, LOVE wins it all. on screen it looks lovely. on common sense, the main cast have been winning by LUCK. the Villain did far more than the actual heroes!!!
Kaslanas giving their all to protect the world, yet those close to them chose to destroy the world in order to protect them. The frustrating conundrum this theme goes.
Yeah....This is just... a family thing, nothing to see here.
A whole bloodline, and not a soul in it that can catch a break
I think it’s really interesting that this implies that there weren’t surnames in the previous era. Like how do they keep track of people without it? I have questions and mei isn’t asking them…
I actually... Never thought about it. But now that you said it, indeed, every character I can think about past era (Fu Hua, Su, Kevin, Elysia, Mobius, Klein, Kalpas, Eden, Dr.MEI, Himeko)... None of them have surnames.. lol I never noticed it. Good observation.
Its also interesting that everyone in ER calls Fu Hua just Hua!
Are they just using Hua like a nickname or was her name just Hua in the PE? Where did the name Fu Hua come from?
I think Kevin here is bullshitting his way here, so like we're there only around a thousand people in the world before honkai in ancient civilization?
I mean Fu hua has a mentor and she had a surname, Murata
So him not knowing surnames definitely comes as a lie OR as a erosion in memory
@@joshuamartin2069 few days late but iirc “Hua” is Fu Hua’s actual name, and “Fu” is her surname
@@skye902 thanks for clarifying. I just never remember any of the MANTISes calling her 'Fu Hua'. I always remember them calling her 'Hua'
That's the Kaslana's oath, mei
But I still agree with Mei.
@@YumiYuna. well yes cause it runs in the blood
Apparently, none of the memeber in Kaslana clan pay attention in biology class. We human manage to climb to the top of animal kingdom is not by someone carrying the whole specis forward. It is because we work together as a whole to move forward. Lol
The tuna literally falls asleep in anything that wasn't gym class lol, whaddya expect to happen JK
Dr. MEI and kevin isn't stupid, but their descendants are xd
Well it can't be help
It's been planted on their Kaslana DNA
and because we got *t h u m b s*
@@irend1163 Kaslanas aren't stupid they just don't like studying and can't cook to save their lives
mei: "damn you kaslanas and your heroic syndrome"
the reason why the kevin sim doesnt know why he has descendants was because the sim was made before mei died. when mei died, she created the baby using kevin and her genes. the elysian realm was made after the herrscher of binding(11th). Dr Mei died during the battle against the final herrscher(13th)
14th*
14th bruh,read the manga again
@@hasefharris357 yea i got that wrong and that's on me but spare me your condescencion. no one has all the time to keep up with all the lore, let's be real 🙄
@@ohsloppyjoe I'm not mad at you,I'm just stating the truth that you Wrong
I can't help but laugh when I anticipated what Mei's going to say about the Kaslana's resemblance XD
Kevin being Kevin even after he transcend the finality. He cares none about this world, but for the sake of responsibility alone, he still carry them on his shoulder.. Typical kaslana moment
meanwhile siegfried already meet the real kevin
"Real"?
@@butterflycheese8453 yes
@@butterflycheese8453 second key manga, when siegfried trapped in the void
I can already FEEL the migraine that Dr.mei had with Kevin around the time they were together. For Raiden, it’s like a cosmic joke. Like, real fuckin funny 😂😂😂😂
Kaslanas: *Suffer alone
Mei: Typical.
2:28 Cecilia was the first to come to my mind, but she was from another bloodline. Idk why. Maybe because she was Siegfried's wife. Come to think of it, Siegfried also did carry the burden all by himself, ultimately leaving Kiana. 🙈
Mei's last comment was fucking adorable 😂
The classic kaslana line along with the MEI response
the fact that he mentioned 'raiden mei' after sure enough he wont have any descendant does imply something
Kevin: Family nam-
Dom Toretto: Say no more, let's find your family
Also kevin: what the hell?
that deep sigh from Mei :(
The Kaslana bloodline is like the Uchiha of Honkai Impact
Oh yeah, now that I think about it, the manga for Judgement of Shamash also mentioned that after he woke up from his cryosleep, he introduced himself as "Kaslana" to the humans of the CE but his actual full name wasn't mentioned, only that his name was Kevin.
If Kiana gets her way in Elysian realm....Eden and Elysia is going to annoy Kevin non-stop
While mobios would be even more interested in Kiana being a herrscher with 2 herrscher cores
Fun Fact: Kevin and Kiana are love to the same one. But one is Doctor MEI, one is Raiden Mei.
GOD I FUCKING LOVE KEVIN
I miss playing honkai though, but my storage and ram is crying
If you uninstall it and reinstall it again I think you can continue with the story, it worked for me, most of the space it occupies is due to the events of the game.
Sorry if my english is not correct 😓
Kaslana is one of the three famous royal families of the Current Era, so I don't know what Mei expected. Nothing cultural survived the Previous Era, only the anti-Honkai measures Hua, Fuxi, and Nuwa taught everyone through Project Ember.
Joke on you Kallen give birth to a tragedy just because she die and kiana brought about the world end(almost) by being awaken as HoV ahahahaha
Kevin probably didn't know about anything on kallen, siegfried and kiana. 😂
Blame the "dumbass simp" for fckng up the world...
@@ggwrecko8528 otto lmfao
@@ggwrecko8528 every second otto breaths he creates another fucking problem
@@KazumiyaEnthusiast a new problem was created…
Fun Fact: in Mihoyo's previous game: Houkai Gakuen 2, Kevin Kaslana is the alternate universe/Genderbent version of Kiana. In his Universe, Kiana is Kevin and Mei was his lover (emphasis on "WAS" since she died in that universe)
Mei can't take a break lol.
@@Jorge_Alvarado In Houkai Gakuen 2/GGZ, Kevin had to kill his lover, Mei in his own world. He of course was filled with regret and then travelled into multiple timelines to find a way to save her but was forced to always kill Mei in every timeline he went into. It's in one of the timeline that he met his female counterpart, Kiana who had also been sent into a different timeline iirc.
I want Kiana and Mei to meet again!!!😭😭😭😭😭🥺🥺
Me too :(
Imagine Kevin actually meet kiana and saying that full sentence out of nowhere
Kevin:...
Kiana:You're... Kevin Kaslana! 😠
Mei:😐
Mei be like " ahh those Kaslanas 😮💨"
lol Mei has become so sadistic to the point shes done with the kaslanas
Kaslanas: I'm gonna do all this on my own, and you cant stop me.
MEi: Why u ol lyk diz BRUH
For me kiana and kevin semm like siblings bc they are having the same family name...
She is a descendant of him. Kevin is the first Kaslana. Kallen, Siegfried, Kiana... All of them are his descendants, so he is like her great great great great grandpa c:
@@noir6171 let's not forget about Adam too. He's probably the one who expanded the bloodline lol
@@ashleyyy640 Oh yeah haha! Shame we didn't get to see much about him ;--;
@@user-wv6yg7ul1f Kaslanas were made using his genes, they share dna similarities with him, so it can be considered.
Just like teehee said,ADAM was the one responsible in expanding the Kaslana's bloodline,since Kevin's body condition was unable to do so.
So Sim Kevin doesn't know about the child MEI made. That's something interesting. (Sure it's not a direct descendant but it's close)
the sim has memories after the incident of binding (11th herrscher), but the child was created after the 14th herrscher (final herrscher)
Thunder is so done with the Kaslana's willing to die for the sake of others while carrying their own sins to their graves
"i have a...
...
friend."
the closet is made from glass bruh
Mei was about to say girlfriend she would’ve said friend straight away if she was a “friend”
Kevin: *there's no way i have any descendants*
Bruh, the baby you carrying in your hand is your son made by your genes
-> wait what? So you are virgin Kevin
I wonder how Kevin had descendants ? If he is the father of the Kaslana House and Dr Mei was the only one he loved
Dr. MEI made a baby using his and her Dna. It was a test tube baby (so there were no physical contact) and he didn't know about it until his last day on past era, where dr. MEI died and left the baby to him.
He says that eventhough times ago he pointed his big Flaming Sword to the clone of his descendant.
I mean kiana à the time couldn't controle her power and kill million of life so , yeah i would try to kill her too
@@hawk8149 Are you referring towhen she was a little child?
Because I was referring to when she is stopped by Fu Hua in the main game story.
@@anthonydavix when serin take over before himeko stop her
@@hawk8149 He appears during that time?
Huh. I do not remember much about the very first chapter.
@@anthonydavix Siren take over because of otto, she kill a lot of people before himeko stop her and after the event when kiana stop the bomb in the city she take a lot of damage and her honkai energy was too high, its was not only Killing her but also she was loosing control and sirine coule have take her body and once again fck everybody so yeah she was a bomb that could go off at any moment that were kevin attack her and fu hua protect her ( personnally i think that mihoyo fk up all little bit her, because when kevin say too the other member of world serpent to let kiana to him, i thout that he was going to talk with her and not try to kill her) oh well
Mei is fed up with the kaslana bloodline-
Idk but when i was thinking about, WHAT IF kiana meet kevin... I found this video and i excited that fact kaslana's always carry everythinh on his/her shoulders ":v
Mihoyo is back with another censorship: "I have a 'friend'"
Little does he know he’s actually tried to kill his descendant multiple times now.
Did they ever explain why they all look so dang young? Like Otto is 500 years old and doesn’t look a day over 30. Theresa is the head of a school and looks 12. I must have missed something here right?
Mantis don't age, they are practically immortal beings. This is due they are no longer humans, they passed through a "surgery" and had their dna mixed with honkai beasts (Each Mantis have a different honkai beast, like Kevin's Parvati or SU Mahamayuri). That's why they are really strong and hard to kill, they also have regeneration abilities. For Otto, he just keeps creating clones of himself and changing bodies whenever the older one gets damaged. Theresa also is a experiment, she was created using Kallen's Dna and a honkai beast (Vishnu, if I'm not mistaken), her age stoped at 12 years old, because Vishnu also has great regeneration abilities.
Noir Ok thank you so much for explaining that. That always confused me haha
@@amazinglaughs No problem c:
@@noir6171 how about dr. Tesla, and dr. Einsten tho?
@@irend1163 I believe they used the power of the Abyss Flower. This question is brought up in the new open world when Tesla, Dudu and Theresa investigate it. But I could be mistaken tho
Kaslana bloodline after Kevin said that: OUR sins
mei:tch trying to carry everything on your shoulders..such bullshit
also mei:*proceeds to carry everything on her shoulders*
I think everyone & every house carries their own burdens & finally leaning on someone when they're close to their limit or overcross ....
AFTER all her needless whining btw :P
Mei is so done lmao, she was already sad about Kiana and when Kevin said that she gave up lmao
So sad this Sim doesn't know about Adam Kaslana or Mei's death
Literally the fantom to every Kaslana: can yall get some help for once
Wait didn't Kevin had a child with DR.Mei artifially from both DNA?
He had, but I think his Elysian Realm sim doesn't know this, he found out about the baby on his last day on past era. He thinks he can't have descendants because he can't touch anyone without hurting them because of how low his body temperature is.
ER Fu Hua doesn't remember anything from the Current Era (Like Mei) so I'd assume this was before Dr. MEI gave him a kid
@@user-wv6yg7ul1f Adam was created using his genes and dna, it may not be a natural born baby, but it's still a baby made from him. If he was made from Kevin, with Kevin and MEI's genes (I mean a baby is basically a being made with a mix of both their father and mother genes, even if the baby is born naturally or not, like artificial insemination or test tube), it can be consider his descendant, even if it's not a natural born baby.
@@user-wv6yg7ul1f it's the same idea as a artificial insemination or a sperm donor. Dr. Mei took Kevin's DNA and combined their DNA to make a child. Kevin and Dr. MEI didn't procreate but the child is biologically Kevin's because it contains his DNA. Nowadays in real world, and especially in honkai previous era with the incredible technology, two people don't have to actually procreate to make babies because there are alternative ways to. Granted what Dr mei did was fairly extraordinary since she completly test tubed a baby without sperm and using just DNA but it's the same deal. SIM Kevin doesn't know he has a child because he out found afterwards and it was done without his knowledge. TLDR it's a highly advanced era of course it's possible to have a child without even knowing or participating. Adam is biologically Kevin's child, not adopted or unrelated. In saying that being family through blood or biology doesn't necessarily mean you consider them family. If your mum hooked up with a random dude and he's your biological dad, but you've never met him before and know nothing about him would you consider him your dad? Depends on the person's perspective
@@RandomL0s3r kinda unfair comparison since ER hua constantly erase her memory. ER Su in other hand had memory of who survived the final herrscher but then this dude predict future so the memory probably from his prediction. In conclusion I didn't know how often ER update their sim
Mei: I have a ....girlfri-..... A friend that shares the same family name
Mei:(Almost said im gae)
i don't get why some people bash mei for what she did. if the most important person in your life is trying to kill themselves , wouldn't you save them too even if you had to do it forcefully? or are those people saying they didn't mind kiana dying?
That last bit is funny for someone who always plays the victim
[0:54] A friend? No, a *GIRLFRIEND.*
So hold on, I haven't played for a long time (now that i started again on PC), so basically, Kevin didn't know that Siegfried, whom he's taken the Shamash from, is an Kaslana?
the real Kevin does know, but this Kevin doesn't. its a simulation of the real Kevin
The Flame Chasers in the Elysian Realm are all copies uploaded just before the old world ended, so they know nothing of the new world. Even Fu Hua is her young and shy self from the old era there.
Current kiana is not actual day descentend of kevin but forced bcoz of otto
It's the same thing. To start with, Kevin never had a child of his own. Dr. MEI created a baby with Kevin's genes. That baby is the true starting point of the Kaslana bloodline, not Kevin. And also Kiana is a clone, she still has Kaslana genes, so she is an actual Kaslana descendant.
But she still contains his DNA
@@1idd0kun umm what?
First you said Kaslana is not Kevin's descendant despite having his dna, and then you said Kiana is still a Kaslana descendant because she have Kaslana dna
Make up your mind bro
i need to rush chapters and captain level
Gl!
"All my sins stop with me"
Kiana: yeah about that 👀
Kiana already has Sirin's sins to deal with
Andd Kaslanas being kaslanas
Try to share others' burden and make us all cry
Kevin: If you’re referring to “Kaslana”, it was never used in the old times.”
Dr. MEI would beg to differ, considering she literally called him Kevin Kaslana in the ch 17 backstory cutscene.
Yes i also confuse about this. All of the sim in elysian realm has the memories of all flame chasers before they fight the 14th but why sim kevin said he is not a kaslana?
Mei came here cuz she was fed up with all these "KASLANA" bullshit... only to meet the originator hahahaha
Yes a "friend".......
For a second there, when Mei asked him about having a descendant, I thought she was asking if he wanted to have one with her
Tf
*No
Lmao
No-
Wait. Who’s Kevin kaslana again?
First Kaslana and father of all Kaslanas. He is a past era warrior (Same as Fu Hua), killed a bunch of herrschers (1 to 6 herrscher while still being human) but failed to defeat 14th herrscher. The Kaslana bloodline is made after him, using his and past era Dr. MEI Dna (That's why they are all really strong and have white hair - blue eyes). He is basically the strongest soldier of humanity and the strongest character within Honkai-verse (Honkai impact 3rd, not inclunding ggz), losing only to 14th herrscher. He used to be the leader of Flame-chasers/MANTIs soldiers on past era, but currently he is the leader of World Serpent/Jörmungandr organization (The same Mei, Raven and Jackal are part of right now), called "Sire" by them.
No me duele me quema TwT
lel I know she's kinda on point, but Mei has no right to generalize the Kaslanas like that, knowing only one of 'em.
well 2 now and pretty much she can guess about Kiana's father... + what Kallen did so...
You know how many Kaslanas died due to overusing Shamash, including Kallen’s father? Siegfried was one of the lucky ones.
She's literally on point though ngl. Kallen's father, Kallen herself, Siegfried (luckily survived) did it too
@@whycchi5204 um, kallen used oath of judah instead of judgement of shamash
And siegfried survive shamash side effect coz he received serum to awakened his dormant parvati gene
I have unlocked this part but doesn't have any dubs on it also with memory 7 and 8 on his vessel and others. Anyone have the same problem? I'm playing in SEA
Tsundere kevin : no , don't say my full name , im so embrassing 🥺,, I hope
And the fact that kaslana means lazy to a female 💀