Well, yeah, physically defeated, but not really? I think the people who bring the boat feat tend to forget that Chuthlu is at his strongest whenever he does not physically manifest himself. Void is basically ghost mode with extra steps for him. He could hit Godzilla from there, now I do not see how Godzilla could retaliate to that move.
This match basically sums up to: People who know of H.P. Lovecraft and Cthulhu vs. People who don't know of H.P. Lovecraft and Cthulhu. You could argue this being the sole reason people think of this matchup to begin with. They don't understand Cthulhu and reduce him to big, dumb monster.
@@smugundan2827 that's not even a thing on Cthulhu mythos he's just a dreaming god People who discovered Lovecraft verse because of that just got misinformed lol
@@afix3102 debatable if we are using high ends where basically godzilla hesei would scale to low-complex multiversal while cthulhu is at best likely universal+ debatable low multiversal yet i dont if it would be possible if we are using conplete high ends we can use a full scsling of gih as it ciuld be some what connecte So a comp goji would absolutely neg cthulhu
The thing with cthulhu's phisical form is that (besides being very weakend) it depends on his blood to be present in the phisical world, to the point that even a boat could damage it, of course it regenerated almost immediately after, but the fact still remains, for cthulhu if it's true form, aka in the void, could literally destroy godzilla with just a thought, but with only his physical avatar, and without anything else, godzilla could "win" and that's because if cthulhu took the fight with any kind or measure of seriousness then, with just a thought, goji dies
Okay Cthulu was definitely downplayed here. Physical form Cthulu alone is stated to be a transdimensional being who transcends time and space and is so powerful that his spawn in space can hold back hyperversal Nightgaunts. Cthulu also scales above the physical universe which not only describes the multiverse but also holds infinite spatial dimensions through reflections. Even if you buy into the multiversal wank for Godzilla (which isn't valid in any way shape or form) he still has no chance against even restricted Cthulu's power
I just wanna go over a few things 1. Wiping out planet destroying meteors isn't dwarf star level, that calc is BS. At best something like that would be large planetary to planet busting levels of power. 2. Tanking multiple supernovas isn't solar system nor galaxy level, it's high multi star level at best. 3. Surviving a black hole would be anywhere from a planetary to star level feat, not solar system or galaxy level. 4. Just because Space Godzilla possesses "infinite energy" doesn't mean it's inherently universal. Space Godzilla clearly has a limit to how much of that energy he can actually draw out and use and it has never been shown to operate on a 3D scale. 5. I've debunked the term "super dimensional" many times before but to keep it short the term by itself means nothing without context, the definition of the word on its own would just mean "1+ dimensional" aka scaling 1 extra layer into dimensional power. This would at best equate to universal and could be used to scale already universal feats to 4D and higher but I've already pointed out the flaws in the "infinite energy" Space Godzilla argument so using super dimensional to upscale him and Godzilla to 4D is just a bad argument. 6. Power multipliers don't inherently give a character a boost in dimensionality, that's something you'd have to prove and Heisei Godzilla has no evidence of this. 7. We know Cthulhu scales above the city of R'lyeh which at bare minimum is a 4th dimensional realm considering it's dimensionally higher than our regular 3D universe as well as holding entire spheres of dimensions that exist apart from our own which would mean physical form Cthulhu should at least scale to 4D to 5D levels of power, i don't know how you manged to downplay him to only universal+.
@@Aspect333-w9o They don't have to provide calculations as they aren't scaling anything. They are using logic to debunk the flawed calculations presented by Goji-Chronic.
The monster that everyone call it god because of knowing how strong it is vs A God that no one know because he is so strong that trying to understand its existence literally crash your mind I really wonder who will win
@ I already watched it, and that does not nothing to change the outcome. Cthulhu is literally an extradementianal being that could destroy Godzilla just by thinking about it. Stop the glazing, Cthulhu wins negative diff.
@ you know exactly how Cthulhu is an omnipotent God who transcends the very concept of mortal comprehension Godzilla’s IQ is below a human humans meaning his comprehension of Cthulhu would be harder he would get torn to shreds before the fight even starts
15:23 The funny thing about this is that a being known as Yog Sothoth keeps the void and the true forms of all the elder and outer gods trapped behind something known as the silver gates which is why they have no effect on the ordered multiverse, dreamlands, and the human realms
You’re kind of right, but also kind of wrong first it’s the other gods not outer gods, that comes from a fan made game ask Hulu is one of the other gods second yog sothoth is the Silvergate. He’s not the guardian of it. He is the gate just as he is the entire verse itself. That’s why he’s referred to as the all in one.
for anyone wondering how big the cosmology of Cthulhu verse is, here it is Material sphere: Outerversal, said to be reach until archetypal infinity, which is a qualitatively superior infinity Dreamlands (layer 1): High Outerversal, said to be inaccessible to physical universe Dreamlands (final layer): Extraversal The void: Infinite layers into Extraversal
@@mrsketchysketch680 oh so how does their heiarcy dynamic work. Is one simply superior than the other, are they at the same level or does one take turns on letting one take charge while the others willingly weaken themselves
Boundless is a tier only exist in fodder VSBW, but he mentioned extraversal to he's using CSAP And speaking of both CSAP outer>>>VSBW boundless@@eduardopantoja9115
@@Elder-Scrolls-Classified unironically want someone to debunk this so badly bro , not even kidding. 😭 Like i like his channel and his content , but this video can't slide like factual info lol 💀
Physical Form Cthulhu loses he was rammed and put to sleep by a boat, but regardless of that Cthulu scales to Uni meanwhile Goji is above that during the end Cosmic Cthulhu aka Lore Cthulu drives him insane most likely and with ease
I know right, Cu'Thulu's physical form has scaling and statements of being Transdimensional and his spawn in space can hold back Hyperversal Nightgaunts and Physical form of Cu'Thulu also transcends Time and Space.
Well yes, it's just that nobody really cares about Cuthulu like that. Mostly because whenever people bring up Lovecraft they just talk about how the author is rascit and gods in the world are weird oceon creatures. That's about it plus Cuthulu is a public domanin character so technically speaking there are multiple weak versions of Cuthulu that harm the reputation of the mythos
bro just nromal Cthulu from Cthulu Mythos solos MArvel as hes an OtherGod by technicallity, the same Other Gods that atleast scale to the human Gods that are in high-Outerversal parts of the Dreamlands. Or the fact he scales to or just above Dreamers who can travel infinitely transcending layers above that high-Outer Dreamlands/Extraversal realms.
H.P. Lovecraft Mythos is far above Godzilla Universe in every way but it's always fun to see how it would go down if they did fight in a physical fight.
@@oneyedthing bro you do know that Godzilal Utlima caps at 4D/universal. And why evcen bring up Shin. Godzilla in Hell is the only sort of relevant ones you mentioend as hes prob just one of thes trongest versions. Meanwhile, Cthulu scales to high-Outerversal if not Extraversal from his status and upscaling other beings and realms.
Unfortunately Hesise gets slamed by Ctuhll as Chutull scales to high outer while hesise scales low complex multi Although Comp Goji or Godzilla in hell might be able to win but I doubt it Azothoth and Yogthought no concept of diffs both Godzilla and Chull in there comp forms
"Says heisei loses" "Says godzilla in hell wins even tho heisei is billions of times stronger because hell died to the planet blowing up and was getting packed up by space godzilla and ghidora and his skin got pierced by the eiffel tower." Reading helps.
@citrusreality64 litterally the first page of the comic. All he did was kill featless monsters while he had a power up and help the whole time and as soon as he fought space godzilla he was getting packed up and needed help. Heisei is strong enough to break tectonic plates while underwater on accident. Tank multiple attacks from 2 kaijus that are strong enough to destroy planet ending giant asteroid and he can dodge lazers and move at subsonic speeds. How is fodderzilla in hell stronger. Try reading the actual comic first for yourself instead of watching one misinformed short telling you all the stuff he did supposedly.
Lemme just disprove this not so real quick. 1. Cthulu has a true form which exists beyond the dreamland, which has infinite number of infinitely sized universes. Already boundless. 2. D o I n e e d t o c o n t i n u e 3. In no universe is Heisei Goji Multiversal. Where did this come from? At most he is a planet buster and no further than solar system level. Where is his multiversal feat again? 4. Space-Goji is NOT Uni+ just because he has "InFiNiTe EnErGy", we see he doesn't just obliterate Godzilla or Moguera when they fight, meaning he only has infinite stamina.
@@derekhofstetler3998 Well said, It also didn't actually destroy the avatar as its pretty implicit in the story his body was reforming and he was just surprised and giving the boat a weird look.
@VTClaps it's the thumbnail to an album called "Everywhere at the end of time," which is basically an audible representation of someone slowly succumbing to dementia, and how it begins to break down their memories with every passing second.
@@Thecoolestnumberone4D isn't really new to godzilla Showa nuked 4D realms Heisei fights beings that tranced 4D outright Godzilla in hell upscales the power rangers verse Due to idw statments which gets him at 7D Marvel godzilla one shotted hulk...and is still canon to Marvel True form ulitma is outright called 4D in the show and is even stronger in the novel Void Ghidorah is 5D... Space G is 5D Destoroyah is megaversal and 5 to 9D This is also without using the string theory scaling because I fi d it shaky But physically cthulhu in LOVECRAFT WRITEN WORK or work APPROVED BY HIM is not all that newer versions are stronger yes but that's not the version we are using here
@@Centoverse yeah obviously those godzillas are beating physical Cthulu. But only...maybe marvel goji & TF ultima are maybe beating tf cthulu.(BTW tf ultima is a 13th dimensional being not 4th dimensional). And what even is the powerscaling definition of 4D because in know its different than The Actual 4th dimension
Godzilla has solo'd the Greek pantheon, got sent to Hell only for him to climb out no problem. Never saw anything from Cthulhu that even comes close to that shit. He just drives people insane either through his dreams or from his shear size and alien look.
@@gameuniverse5973 but Cthulhu was still god like strength or stronger so it’s still impressive, especially since hp love craft creatures are really strong.
@@Juzisimp no he was not he was summoned with a ritual that dint even go all the way right to summon a piece of his physical form Rituals alone in mythos can't bring beings like cthullu at their full strength But that ritual dint even go right so it brought cthullu in a even worse state to manifest a avatar there Godzilla beat a cthullu who had two massive handicaps and was also barely waking up that is not impressive that like me beating a marine who asleep with a gun
@@gameuniverse5973 yea Cthulhu is at the worst state for a avatar but what i said was he’s still probably stronger then some gods so yea it might not be impressive that he beat weakest Cthulhu form with that context, but if we use the right context it’s still impressive that godzilla was able to beat something stronger then some gods even if it’s Cthulhu weakest form.
You know what’s funny, I was just thinking about what if GojiChronic scaled Cthulhu, and now here’s a video with one of the most infamous kaiju matchups. God’s timing is impeccable😁. Also, I love how you mentioned the fact that he can’t truly die, and how his physical form is weaker than his true form, and that’s the only form he can use on earth.😁👌🏾
Now do Azathoth or Yog-Sothoth vs the ENTIRE Godzilla media Edit: I’m by no means a Godzilla hater. In fact, I love Godzilla more than anything as he was my childhood. But I just want to spread the message of the insane power and scaling of Lovecraft’s work.
Entire Godzilla media? Lovecraft get mauled horrifically. Void ghidorah, GiH, SRW, MS, Ultima, God Mountain, etc Azathoth and Yoghurt get absolutely torn apart
Ya know rewatching and rewatching I want you to breakdown the myths power system in depth as well. And it is really cool how far we as a society have realize the scope of the universe and something like cathulu is almost rendered overpowered by a lot of media. So it’s like the old scope of the universe vs the new perspective of how the universe actually is.
its almost a century when lovecraft died but even at 50 years after that his works become a public domain thus any studio can recreate or continue the story but that will be a different topic to discuss
Yes, so theoretically, you could create a story involving Cu'Thulu arm wrestling Mickey Mouse, losing and then turn him into an anime girl who then gets a jock boyfriend.
in other words, if you reed the books of the master, you understand that its imposible to defeat Cthulhu with something like godzilla, it doesnt matter the version, and if people say "boat" is because of the meme or they dont understand that Cthulhu physical form doesnt matter, he could kill anyone by just thinking of it while chilling on the void
That's not even true as the most madness inducing one Nyanya boi was actually seen and comprehended by a REGULAR HUMAN who just had to go to the hospital and was FINE. Cthulhu still slams and solos most everyone's fictional verse, just this is wrong. Only some people go crazy looking at him because they refuse/can't accept what they are seeing, a creature measured in miles.
@@ShadowHolmes From Godzilla? Well, I mean Godzilla beats the physical manifestation and then IMMEDIATELY gets destroyed by magic from the void. Cthulhu loses to other beings from its own verse, albeit not too many, so not literally untouchable. Beats Goku though, very easily and every version. Just not the literal tippy top of all fiction and doesn't have madness inducing powers from just seeing it. That's only if you can't mentally comprehend the idea of something that large existing.
@@ShaytheProtagonist nobody can't beat him the only ones that can is his family that it anybody else naw not even goku can beat him and I love goku just as I love cthulhu
@@ShadowHolmes Like I said, Goku gets destroyed, easily. There are a FEW comic characters that can win, so it's not strictly just him and his family. But there are less than like 50 characters in ALL of fiction/mythology if you count irl religions that can, and all are either gods or reality warpers as well.
well I'll explain about the heisei Godzilla, in Godzilla's cosmology it is said to have the 4th as it was shown in the crossover zone fighter, Godzilla showsa can destroy the 4th Spacegodzilla is said to transcend the laws of physics and its supergravity is said to be above the dimensions making it scale in 5°D.Making Spacegodzilla to be Low complex Multiversal 5D Godzilla defeated him in the base form yet, in the burning form his explosion is said to cause destruction equal to the big bang, meaning that burning Godzilla would cause an explosion equivalent to the entire creation of a cosmology, the cosmology is 4D infinite. Toho in its guides mentions the speed of light exceeding/transcending time, and Spacegodzilla has this speed, and this makes sense since mothra leo has already shown power traveling through time just using speed, as Godzilla managed to react to Spacegodzilla's crystals he would have this speed. Conclusion:1C Loe complex Multiversal (5D) to 6D infinite Speed: Infinite-Immeasurable
I'll be explaining cthulhu: Stronger than the H.P Lovecraft humans Who in their final form(which get trascended by cthulhu) scale infinitely above extended modal realism, trascending It infinitely with with R>F trascendence. Overral(lowballed): High outer-boundless Speed: irrelevant
Keep in mind, yall… he scaled Heisei Godzilla to low complex multiversal in his other vids. This was just a reasonable lowball on Heisei’s scaling vs Cthulhu’s avatar.
@@Thecoolestnumberone I guess you just forgot that he upscale showa godzilla a guy who trains with another guy that blew up a 4D world and killed SpaceGodzilla a guy who uses supergravity which is a 5D construct
This was really cool and I agree with the Verdict,I had a feeling the physical form would hurt him(though uni+ is better than I’ve seen anyone else give Cthulhu’s physical form so that’s nice to see) I hope we get more Cthulhu Mythos videos in the future(that would be awesome)
The Reason why Cthulhu lost to a boat is because Cthulhu needs blood to maintain a physical form (And by Blood, I mean the Blood from cult sacrifices) so when that boat rammed into him, he lost all of his blood, his physical form died away and he went back to the void. Still, Cthulhu just woke up when that happened so maybe great old ones are at their weakest when they wake up or something idk. Still, Cthulhu at his best would mop the floor with Goji’s ass.
@@ivanlupercio2599ok picture this: you, without limbs, without senses, lowered in 2D dimension vs a 1 yo baby Who wins? The baby, obviously, why am i bringing this up? The without limbs+senses lowered in the 2nd dimension Is cthulhu, his true form would destroy every single Godzilla
@@afix3102 LMAO yeah I know that's why I said Cthulhu need to nerf TF out of himself to fight da goat goji I just love goji that's why I said the goat goji and I also know that Cthulhu true form stomps
Good video, but I think I have my first powerscaling video now. Showing how Marvel/DC Godzilla comps are far more powerful than people seem to think. Not saying that you're wrong or right, the actual result means nothing to me, but to clarify that the Marvel and DC cosmologies are both far larger and more comparable to Lovecraft's cosmology [as described by Literary Who] than one might initially expect.
The Great Old Ones are stronger than the Great Ones according to there Wiki if you google it. Which the Great Ones live in the Dreamland which being there is bare minimum 1-A. Cthulhu is a Great Old One so he would automatically be above these 1-A Great Ones. Also Cthulhu on CSAP Wiki is 1-A for being above angled space which means being above the infinite spatial dimensions in the Lovecraft Cosmology. A single universe in the Lovecraft Cosmology has infinite spatial dimensions so destroying all of it or being a threat to all of it makes you High 1-B. The Dreamland is even crazier as it's 1-A+ in its entirety with all its layers. Then there are the Gates which only the Outer Gods scale too. But do keep in mind Cthulhu is public domain so his scaling is wonky because so many people got there hands on him.
The great old ones are the ones Cthulhu sent to conquer earth, the inhabitants of R'lyeh. He is not a great old one. Just watch the video by literary who, its in the description.
The public domain thing is kinda the point though, cause if we look at other versions of godzilla they can get to similar ranges, definitely ratty, but because of cthulu being so inconsistent aswell it's kinda even lol
The fact that Heisei Godzilla's first L on this channel was against a character that most people think can solo fiction, and even then only under certain circumstances, really says something.
Glad to see this match up I suggested way back happen I had a feeling Heisei would win in clash against the living form of Cthulhu but I'm pleasantly surprised that Cthulhu stomps in his other forms Guess it goes to show that you shouldn't underestimate elder gods Now I wonder how Godzilla Ultima would fare considering the novelization implies what we see is merely the protection of a sleeping avatar giving me major Cthulhu vibes
I like the video and all but you kinda forgot one tiny important detail. Godzilla and Cthulhu actually cannonly fought each other in the recent "Godzilla vs. Cthulhu: A Death May Did Story" comic and Godzilla won so. Godzilla can canonly defeat Cthulhu or at least the version of him in the comic I mentioned.
Can you do a lore scale Unicorn vs Kirby or one of them vs whoever? Those two have some crazy high level feats. Unicorn being outside causality and Kirby being able to casually eat stars.
While the stronger versions of Godzilla could certainly destroy a physical avatar of Cthulu in theory at least the idea that Cthulu could not use his powers from the void is fairly dubious at best.
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Og show comp? Ben 10 debatable stops to Ichigo that has galaxy level scale Reebot? Stops at buu saga Goku at uni± scaling Omniverse which include op aliens? Heck nah Even species below celestial sapiens solos mid diff Ben 10 no diff Alien x isn't need to bully That's absolutely overkill
@@Plant-c9p and then pressed return since he has infinite life's and the brain breaking cheat code which affects all Living beings and should've destroyed Godzilla's two brains by just standing in front of him for two seconds.
Saw this as I opened TH-cam. I dont even have to watch this pointless video. The fact you even thought there could be a match up is laughable. Cthulhu no diffs pretty much anyone
So, Godzilla beats Cthulhu for basically the same reason Freddy Krueger beats Pennywise. Outerversal true form goes brrrrrr, but that True Form isn't really applicable in most situations on neutral ground, so the weaker character would still technically win.
@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation oof cthullu won just as expected when he in his actually true state tsk tsk even a Godzilla glazer like Goji is smart enough to know that put my fries in the bag bro your lizard in all versions is a mid tier mythos victim Goji described exactly would happen at the end of the video cthullu just says one word and Godzilla gets vaporized that was the most accurate battle animation ever
While space Godzilla is a evil monster he does not care about human he will go at speed as he wants to. Just like Omni man when I’m the one time on a different planet
Unless its ultima godzilla, Cthulu wins. I love godzilla and the monsters in it, but Cthulu is literally a god-like being who lives outside the universe.
In physical form? Showa MIGHT legendary...no not unless it's the dazed weakend and semi blind cthulhu that a boat managed to bleed out but healthy cthulhu in physical form mauls monsterverse and ture form...is a goku,doctor Manhattan,Godzilla in hell and superman victimizer sooooo...yeah
If you go deep into the cosmology, the physical universe is way higher than what you said and in base form he’s able to beat who can manipulate that with ease
Well if you watched the video you'd understand how he gets to multiversal he even gets to low complex multi at his highest and blatantly upscale showa godzilla a guy who trains with zone fighter who blew up a 4-D world
@@IsaiahJones-rw1pche had him at hyperversal actually and the comics he used are soft canon his hyperbole was using the 17D statment at face value bit unlike bayverse godzilla has uni+ feat one screen almost all of which base heisei is directly stated SEVERAL TIMES to upscale
*Here is the thing:* In HP Lovecraft lore all if not most Gods exist, this includes Egiptian Gods, Greek Gods and others, and all of them are put immediately below Azatoth as he is the only who is truly above all of them, and since TOAA is implied to ressemble the Christian God... So basically unless a deity that is based on "God" is directly stated to be above Azatoth, Azatoth immediately outscales it... Unless the cosmology of that verse is so absurd that it can outscale Azatoth just by statements alone
Man, usually i Dont bother to comment in this kind of video but there are some mistakes here and my boy cthulhu here so i guess i can make an exception. For the First part of the scaling, about the cals i can't say Nothing cuz i am not good in maths lol, but for the thing in 10:50 i can say that there are multiple statement regarding a infinite size universe: in the story "the trap" "from Beyond" "whisper in the darkness" "the mound" "the colour out of space" so yes, it is a high uni feat if you think that there are also infinity star cuz infinity:2 is still infinity, but if you think like the number of stars is not infinite and it's just a infinite empty space then i guess the calc is fine. Another thing, cthulhu was NOT born in a star, i know you used that one passage from call of cthulhu(First story of cthulhu), but we have multiple confermation in other stories like "at the Mountains of madness" "the Shadow out of time" whisper in the darkness" that cthulhu was indeed not born in a star... Here 12:30 other mistakes,the scan you use "from Beyond" it's not in reference to the dreamlands but to the physical universe cuz the whole context of that story Is crawford wanting to see what's Beyond human perceptions, basically answering to questions like "why dogs dazzle to random things in the dark?" with the help of ultra-violet (yeah Lovecraft was afraid of new things lol) also this story like i mentioned before cointains some infinite size statement for the physical universe + other interesting statements. The other statement is the one from "through the Gates of the silver Key" which with the context Is yog sothoth telling carter that the notion of his world being Just 3D is limited and there are infinite spatial dimensions, and even this is a incomplete knowledge, cuz then there is the complete knowledge which is, "that every lower D is cut by an higher D till reaching an archetypal infinity" which in that story is presented as basically a concept of dimensionality, it's also Something stated to be undimensioned, so yeah the physical universe is already outer via just that argument alone. if you want a easy scaling chain for cthulhu, here it's one: Cthulhu > great Ones(gods of earth) via cthulhu being born in the ultimate chaos and everthing from there is superior to the great One which holds power ONLY in the dreamlands of earth( dream Quest of unknown kadath) and the great ones as stated in the "dunwich horror" to be undimensioned, but there could be far far far more to say about the cosmology and the inverse of the verse but i will stop here cuz man, i typed for like for 30 minutes and i don't want to continue, sorry for the overall grammatics but english is not my native language and i am dysorthographic and dysgraphic. have a good day.
For the people that dont know, Godzilla obliterated Satan and God at the same time, Cthulu ain't doing sh*t let alone driving Godzilla insane as Godzilla's hatred is more powerful than whatever mind bs Cthulu does.
Cthulhu does not drive people insane. Some 1940s ish era sailors saw a human shaped fish mountain that smelled like the most horrid thing in the world with dragon wings and a six eyed squid on where its head should be take a walk and went googledybunkers. the only thing about the other gods that makes people go insane is that they're big and ugly. Hell, the only way to defeat Nyarlathoteps avatar is to look at the avatar through its weird summoning rock to see his true form and not go insane. You don't even have to be the chosen one or some shit, just look at his ugly mug and he fucks off. Granted he is REALLY ugly.
@@_Spider42 so is there anything beyond Extraverse like high extraverse or is it like hypervstal in which there technically are different teirs within Hyperveral like the 6th demsnion, the 7th demsnion and ect, but it's repetitive to add a new name since infinite demsnions can exist and it would be better to just end the name to hyperveral and move in to the different teir and a new name
Well I was right cthullu smashes when he not put in his weakest form Literally said what I said is shown at the end of the video cthullu just says a word and Godzilla gets vaporized
Godzilla. He’s basically invulnerable. He never dies, he just gets beaten and then goes to sleep to regen for another day. Not only that he is energized by nuclear explosions In my head Godzilla is the equivalent of Superman but for the titan universe.
We having fried calamari with this one boys!
EVERYONE SUB TO THE GOAT NOWWWWW
How about Hesesi Godzilla VS MV Rodan so we can have Fried Chicken Wings
@@MoreRiceywhy would he do that
@@sq_uidsWho does not like fried chicken?
Weird he low balled Heisei’s actual scaling. Cuz he proved he can get to Low Complex Multiversal in previous vids.
Someone brings up Cthulhu in a vs battle
That one person out of nowhere: "Boat"
Well, yeah, physically defeated, but not really? I think the people who bring the boat feat tend to forget that Chuthlu is at his strongest whenever he does not physically manifest himself. Void is basically ghost mode with extra steps for him. He could hit Godzilla from there, now I do not see how Godzilla could retaliate to that move.
“Hopefully I won’t leave you like the MCs of these stories.”
Best line.
We all know who really wins this fight.
The Steamboat.
God creates man,
Man creates Steamboat,
Steamboat kills God,
Godzilla kills Steamboat.
Steamboat comes back with a vengeance @@RJLupin-xl6yf
"Distant Steamboat Willy whistling"
This match basically sums up to:
People who know of H.P. Lovecraft and Cthulhu vs. People who don't know of H.P. Lovecraft and Cthulhu.
You could argue this being the sole reason people think of this matchup to begin with. They don't understand Cthulhu and reduce him to big, dumb monster.
pretty much
most people that know hp lovecarft also have huge misconecptions like azothoth dreaming reality when he isn,t
@@smugundan2827 Yeah, that’s the new “surface level information” pretty widespread among people who barely get into the mythos and lore
@@smugundan2827 that's not even a thing on Cthulhu mythos he's just a dreaming god
People who discovered Lovecraft verse because of that just got misinformed lol
@@The_Imaginator23 hence why the phrase “huge misconceptions” is there
As a Godzilla lover, saying he has a chance against cthulhu is like saying a 1yo baby has a chance against prime mike tyson
@afix3102 maybe if you paid attention to the video you'd know that he didn't say that lol
@citrusreality64 yes he said that, to physical cthulhu, which still absolutely atomizes even burning heisei
Ikr SMH what a fool he is
Shin Godzilla could have a chance against Cthulhu
@@afix3102 debatable if we are using high ends where basically godzilla hesei would scale to low-complex multiversal while cthulhu is at best likely universal+ debatable low multiversal yet i dont if it would be possible if we are using conplete high ends we can use a full scsling of gih as it ciuld be some what connecte
So a comp goji would absolutely neg cthulhu
This Cthulu downplay is pretty mind boggling
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Even Physical Form is High Hyperversal. Universe+ is honestly absurd and baffling.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki how would he be hyperversal?
He didn't, Cthulhu still wins
The thing with cthulhu's phisical form is that (besides being very weakend) it depends on his blood to be present in the phisical world, to the point that even a boat could damage it, of course it regenerated almost immediately after, but the fact still remains, for cthulhu if it's true form, aka in the void, could literally destroy godzilla with just a thought, but with only his physical avatar, and without anything else, godzilla could "win" and that's because if cthulhu took the fight with any kind or measure of seriousness then, with just a thought, goji dies
Cthulhu claps with negative difficulty.
Why is this match up even a thing?
Nah, I'd clap Cthulhu.
@kaijumaniacyt I dig it
@@kaijumaniacyt no thats his daughter he is male
@@genesismultiverse4896 Both daughter and the mother.
Bro is a menace to society😭😭
(Can you clap me too?)@@kaijumaniacyt
Okay Cthulu was definitely downplayed here. Physical form Cthulu alone is stated to be a transdimensional being who transcends time and space and is so powerful that his spawn in space can hold back hyperversal Nightgaunts. Cthulu also scales above the physical universe which not only describes the multiverse but also holds infinite spatial dimensions through reflections. Even if you buy into the multiversal wank for Godzilla (which isn't valid in any way shape or form) he still has no chance against even restricted Cthulu's power
I just wanna go over a few things
1. Wiping out planet destroying meteors isn't dwarf star level, that calc is BS. At best something like that would be large planetary to planet busting levels of power.
2. Tanking multiple supernovas isn't solar system nor galaxy level, it's high multi star level at best.
3. Surviving a black hole would be anywhere from a planetary to star level feat, not solar system or galaxy level.
4. Just because Space Godzilla possesses "infinite energy" doesn't mean it's inherently universal. Space Godzilla clearly has a limit to how much of that energy he can actually draw out and use and it has never been shown to operate on a 3D scale.
5. I've debunked the term "super dimensional" many times before but to keep it short the term by itself means nothing without context, the definition of the word on its own would just mean "1+ dimensional" aka scaling 1 extra layer into dimensional power. This would at best equate to universal and could be used to scale already universal feats to 4D and higher but I've already pointed out the flaws in the "infinite energy" Space Godzilla argument so using super dimensional to upscale him and Godzilla to 4D is just a bad argument.
6. Power multipliers don't inherently give a character a boost in dimensionality, that's something you'd have to prove and Heisei Godzilla has no evidence of this.
7. We know Cthulhu scales above the city of R'lyeh which at bare minimum is a 4th dimensional realm considering it's dimensionally higher than our regular 3D universe as well as holding entire spheres of dimensions that exist apart from our own which would mean physical form Cthulhu should at least scale to 4D to 5D levels of power, i don't know how you manged to downplay him to only universal+.
Thats Just how scaling works tho
I 100% agree with what you said, I dunno what goji-chronic is on about in this one
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You're basicly just saying "you're wrong and I'm right" without any calculations proving your take.
@@Aspect333-w9o They don't have to provide calculations as they aren't scaling anything. They are using logic to debunk the flawed calculations presented by Goji-Chronic.
The monster that everyone call it god because of knowing how strong it is
vs
A God that no one know because he is so strong that trying to understand its existence literally crash your mind
I really wonder who will win
Goji Chronic dementia arc bouts go crazy
EXCELLENT GOJI CHRONIC WORK. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
He thinks Godzilla is his first husband and doesn't realise that he died Decades ago in the car accident.
@@CerealExperimentsMizukihe died from a stroke while reading some bs
Godzilla has absolutely no chance beating Cthulhu, it’s not even a debate
watch the video
@ I already watched it, and that does not nothing to change the outcome. Cthulhu is literally an extradementianal being that could destroy Godzilla just by thinking about it. Stop the glazing, Cthulhu wins negative diff.
This Cthulhu downplay is getting ridiculous
How so
@ you know exactly how Cthulhu is an omnipotent God who transcends the very concept of mortal comprehension Godzilla’s IQ is below a human humans meaning his comprehension of Cthulhu would be harder he would get torn to shreds before the fight even starts
15:23 The funny thing about this is that a being known as Yog Sothoth keeps the void and the true forms of all the elder and outer gods trapped behind something known as the silver gates which is why they have no effect on the ordered multiverse, dreamlands, and the human realms
You’re kind of right, but also kind of wrong first it’s the other gods not outer gods, that comes from a fan made game ask Hulu is one of the other gods second yog sothoth is the Silvergate. He’s not the guardian of it. He is the gate just as he is the entire verse itself. That’s why he’s referred to as the all in one.
@@jasondobbins9735 Yea I forgot if it was other gods or outer gods, and yea I know Yog Sothoth is not only the silver gate, but also the entire mythos
Also it's Ordered Universe not Multiverse but it's just a technicality that really doesn't matter.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki I called it multiverse considering the sheer amount of compelx layers of transcendent realities in it.
@@greenshirtguy6220 it's perfectly fine since both mean the same thing and describe the same thing, it's just a semantic analysis.
for anyone wondering how big the cosmology of Cthulhu verse is, here it is
Material sphere: Outerversal, said to be reach until archetypal infinity, which is a qualitatively superior infinity
Dreamlands (layer 1): High Outerversal, said to be inaccessible to physical universe
Dreamlands (final layer): Extraversal
The void: Infinite layers into Extraversal
Then what is boundless
@@eduardopantoja9115 yog sothoth, azathoth, shub and nyal.
Extraversal is nonsense, it's a made up tier
@@mrsketchysketch680 oh so how does their heiarcy dynamic work. Is one simply superior than the other, are they at the same level or does one take turns on letting one take charge while the others willingly weaken themselves
Boundless is a tier only exist in fodder VSBW, but he mentioned extraversal to he's using CSAP
And speaking of both
CSAP outer>>>VSBW boundless@@eduardopantoja9115
Gee, I wonder who would win, giant radioactive lizard, or an ELDER GOD WITH INFINITE POWER
Keep cryin lol
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 ?
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843what? 😂
Lizard solos
@@godzillaop6106 Godzilla fanboy. 😂
Cthulhu wins easy. Godzilla doesn’t stand a chance.
Goji chronic giving me chronic headache😭
@@Elder-Scrolls-Classified unironically want someone to debunk this so badly bro , not even kidding. 😭
Like i like his channel and his content , but this video can't slide like factual info lol 💀
Physical Form Cthulhu loses he was rammed and put to sleep by a boat, but regardless of that Cthulu scales to Uni meanwhile Goji is above that during the end
Cosmic Cthulhu aka Lore Cthulu drives him insane most likely and with ease
that's just plot induced stupidity, doesn't affect his scaling
Impossible for Godzilla to go insane, his hatred and rage triumphs that.
this has been debunked for a long long long time
@@Black-Templar69cthullu by breathing kills Godzilla
Cthullu as obviously wins good Goji dint go Godzilla glazing and actually said the real result
This Godzilla glazing needs to be studied in the top research facility in the fucking world
How is it glazing? Godzilla only won one out of the 3 possible scenarios...
I know right, Cu'Thulu's physical form has scaling and statements of being Transdimensional and his spawn in space can hold back Hyperversal Nightgaunts and Physical form of Cu'Thulu also transcends Time and Space.
@@jasonbird2142 *doesn't elaborate on how it's glazing*
@@citrusreality64 It is assumed to be obvious.
@@carlosgarabatosferro883 its not obvious to me
Godzilla, moments before getting slaughtered: "Nah, I'd win"
Wait so if I'm understanding this right, Extended Universe Cthulu solos Marvel?
Yeah
Well yes, it's just that nobody really cares about Cuthulu like that. Mostly because whenever people bring up Lovecraft they just talk about how the author is rascit and gods in the world are weird oceon creatures.
That's about it plus Cuthulu is a public domanin character so technically speaking there are multiple weak versions of Cuthulu that harm the reputation of the mythos
Duhhhhh
bro just nromal Cthulu from Cthulu Mythos solos MArvel as hes an OtherGod by technicallity, the same Other Gods that atleast scale to the human Gods that are in high-Outerversal parts of the Dreamlands. Or the fact he scales to or just above Dreamers who can travel infinitely transcending layers above that high-Outer Dreamlands/Extraversal realms.
1;02 that line was pointed straight at godzilla guy.
Fr
godzilla just has more letters than cthulu, so hes stronger fr
And El Hermanos has more letters than either of them so he's automatically stronger than them both.
Tardigrade:
@@M_.M979 Godzilla canonically loses to el hermanos and tardigrades, it's canon the creator of godzilla and hp Lovecraft phoned me and said so
H.P. Lovecraft Mythos is far above Godzilla Universe in every way but it's always fun to see how it would go down if they did fight in a physical fight.
If this was 2004 you are right
2016 and up versions of Godzilla has been amped. Specifically G Ultima G earth, Shin G 8th form, Hell G.
Bruh a human from H.P Lovecraft negs all Who you said combined, and i have proof+scalin@@oneyedthing
@@oneyedthing bro you do know that Godzilal Utlima caps at 4D/universal. And why evcen bring up Shin. Godzilla in Hell is the only sort of relevant ones you mentioend as hes prob just one of thes trongest versions.
Meanwhile, Cthulu scales to high-Outerversal if not Extraversal from his status and upscaling other beings and realms.
Fun fact: Chuthulu was actually a consideration for the final opponent of the Heisei Era
Had a feeling Cthulu's physical restriction would be an issue
Unfortunately Hesise gets slamed by Ctuhll as Chutull scales to high outer while hesise scales low complex multi
Although Comp Goji or Godzilla in hell might be able to win but I doubt it Azothoth and Yogthought no concept of diffs both Godzilla and Chull in there comp forms
"Says heisei loses"
"Says godzilla in hell wins even tho heisei is billions of times stronger because hell died to the planet blowing up and was getting packed up by space godzilla and ghidora and his skin got pierced by the eiffel tower."
Reading helps.
Godzilla in hell didn't really kill god, nothing implied that what he killed was god
@@Aspect333-w9o As a Heisei glazer, I'm disappointed in you. GiH slams Heisei/Meltdown form no diff.
@Aspect333-w9o gih is way stronger lmao and he never died to a planet exploding
@citrusreality64 litterally the first page of the comic. All he did was kill featless monsters while he had a power up and help the whole time and as soon as he fought space godzilla he was getting packed up and needed help. Heisei is strong enough to break tectonic plates while underwater on accident. Tank multiple attacks from 2 kaijus that are strong enough to destroy planet ending giant asteroid and he can dodge lazers and move at subsonic speeds. How is fodderzilla in hell stronger. Try reading the actual comic first for yourself instead of watching one misinformed short telling you all the stuff he did supposedly.
Lemme just disprove this not so real quick.
1. Cthulu has a true form which exists beyond the dreamland, which has infinite number of infinitely sized universes. Already boundless.
2. D o I n e e d t o c o n t i n u e
3. In no universe is Heisei Goji Multiversal. Where did this come from? At most he is a planet buster and no further than solar system level. Where is his multiversal feat again?
4. Space-Goji is NOT Uni+ just because he has "InFiNiTe EnErGy", we see he doesn't just obliterate Godzilla or Moguera when they fight, meaning he only has infinite stamina.
Also he ain't soloed by a boat, he got his blood rituals cut off, and his physical form is made of the blood from said rituals.
@@derekhofstetler3998 Well said, It also didn't actually destroy the avatar as its pretty implicit in the story his body was reforming and he was just surprised and giving the boat a weird look.
Eating dinner while i watch this, love me some Goji content
Thanks man the love goes both ways you post some bangers as well
@@Goji-C Thank you my g
17:52 dont you dare remind me of that dreaded masterpiece
Context Please? What is this Scroll??
@VTClaps it's the thumbnail to an album called "Everywhere at the end of time," which is basically an audible representation of someone slowly succumbing to dementia, and how it begins to break down their memories with every passing second.
Physical form cthulu is probbably losing.
But true form cthulu.....A SLAUGHTER BEYOND SLAUGHTERS.
Absolutely not. Physical form is slaughtering any Godzilla. 😂
@@Thecoolestnumberone4D isn't really new to godzilla
Showa nuked 4D realms
Heisei fights beings that tranced 4D outright
Godzilla in hell upscales the power rangers verse Due to idw statments which gets him at 7D
Marvel godzilla one shotted hulk...and is still canon to Marvel
True form ulitma is outright called 4D in the show and is even stronger in the novel
Void Ghidorah is 5D...
Space G is 5D
Destoroyah is megaversal and 5 to 9D
This is also without using the string theory scaling because I fi d it shaky
But physically cthulhu in LOVECRAFT WRITEN WORK or work APPROVED BY HIM is not all that newer versions are stronger yes but that's not the version we are using here
@Centoverse More statements, just wait until I get off from work.
@Centoverse Even if all the Heisei Godzilla wank is true (which most isn't) how is that doing anything to Cthulhu? And do NOT bring up that boat feat.
@@Centoverse yeah obviously those godzillas are beating physical Cthulu. But only...maybe marvel goji & TF ultima are maybe beating tf cthulu.(BTW tf ultima is a 13th dimensional being not 4th dimensional). And what even is the powerscaling definition of 4D because in know its different than The Actual 4th dimension
theres no universe where Cthulhu should even struggle with this.
He struggles in this universe and he gets stomped in this universe
That's cause they didn't have godzilla in other universes
Godzilla has solo'd the Greek pantheon, got sent to Hell only for him to climb out no problem. Never saw anything from Cthulhu that even comes close to that shit. He just drives people insane either through his dreams or from his shear size and alien look.
@@macrussell78you mean the featless gods?
@@maybe339 feat-less? Dude, you and I both know that statement is b.s.
I knew Cthulhu would win but I’m glad heisei beat Cthulhu in 1 situation
At his weakest form oh wow it like beating mile Tyson with all his limbs broken so impressive
@@gameuniverse5973 but Cthulhu was still god like strength or stronger so it’s still impressive, especially since hp love craft creatures are really strong.
@@Juzisimp no he was not he was summoned with a ritual that dint even go all the way right to summon a piece of his physical form
Rituals alone in mythos can't bring beings like cthullu at their full strength
But that ritual dint even go right so it brought cthullu in a even worse state to manifest a avatar there
Godzilla beat a cthullu who had two massive handicaps and was also barely waking up that is not impressive that like me beating a marine who asleep with a gun
@@gameuniverse5973 yea Cthulhu is at the worst state for a avatar but what i said was he’s still probably stronger then some gods so yea it might not be impressive that he beat weakest Cthulhu form with that context, but if we use the right context it’s still impressive that godzilla was able to beat something stronger then some gods even if it’s Cthulhu weakest form.
@@JuzisimpGodzilla can't even k*ll an unconscious Cthulhu.
You know what’s funny, I was just thinking about what if GojiChronic scaled Cthulhu, and now here’s a video with one of the most infamous kaiju matchups. God’s timing is impeccable😁.
Also, I love how you mentioned the fact that he can’t truly die, and how his physical form is weaker than his true form, and that’s the only form he can use on earth.😁👌🏾
Now do Azathoth or Yog-Sothoth vs the ENTIRE Godzilla media
Edit: I’m by no means a Godzilla hater. In fact, I love Godzilla more than anything as he was my childhood. But I just want to spread the message of the insane power and scaling of Lovecraft’s work.
Entire Godzilla media? Lovecraft get mauled horrifically. Void ghidorah, GiH, SRW, MS, Ultima, God Mountain, etc
Azathoth and Yoghurt get absolutely torn apart
You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about @hakeeemquaviantavius
@@hakeeemquaviantaviusAzathoth beats all of those, and yog>>>>>Azathoth
@@Maskman8547 he doesn’t lmfao. GiH scales above DnD and lovecraft is literally part of that
@@hakeeemquaviantavius It's not canon to Lovecraft
Ya know rewatching and rewatching
I want you to breakdown the myths power system in depth as well. And it is really cool how far we as a society have realize the scope of the universe and something like cathulu is almost rendered overpowered by a lot of media. So it’s like the old scope of the universe vs the new perspective of how the universe actually is.
Is Cthulhu public domain?
Yes he's over 100 years old for when he was created
its almost a century when lovecraft died but even at 50 years after that his works become a public domain thus any studio can recreate or continue the story but that will be a different topic to discuss
Yes, so theoretically, you could create a story involving Cu'Thulu arm wrestling Mickey Mouse, losing and then turn him into an anime girl who then gets a jock boyfriend.
in other words, if you reed the books of the master, you understand that its imposible to defeat Cthulhu with something like godzilla, it doesnt matter the version, and if people say "boat" is because of the meme or they dont understand that Cthulhu physical form doesnt matter, he could kill anyone by just thinking of it while chilling on the void
Godzilla wouldn’t even be ABLE to comprehend Cthulhu’s true form without DYING FROM MADNESS. Cthulhu wins, he is a literal *ELDER GOD.*
That's not even true as the most madness inducing one Nyanya boi was actually seen and comprehended by a REGULAR HUMAN who just had to go to the hospital and was FINE. Cthulhu still slams and solos most everyone's fictional verse, just this is wrong. Only some people go crazy looking at him because they refuse/can't accept what they are seeing, a creature measured in miles.
@@ShaytheProtagonistdude cthulhu is untouchable
@@ShadowHolmes From Godzilla? Well, I mean Godzilla beats the physical manifestation and then IMMEDIATELY gets destroyed by magic from the void. Cthulhu loses to other beings from its own verse, albeit not too many, so not literally untouchable. Beats Goku though, very easily and every version. Just not the literal tippy top of all fiction and doesn't have madness inducing powers from just seeing it. That's only if you can't mentally comprehend the idea of something that large existing.
@@ShaytheProtagonist nobody can't beat him the only ones that can is his family that it anybody else naw not even goku can beat him and I love goku just as I love cthulhu
@@ShadowHolmes Like I said, Goku gets destroyed, easily. There are a FEW comic characters that can win, so it's not strictly just him and his family. But there are less than like 50 characters in ALL of fiction/mythology if you count irl religions that can, and all are either gods or reality warpers as well.
Nice video I sorry I have not been watching much of your videos lately as I was busy but keep up the good work ❤
well I'll explain about the heisei Godzilla, in Godzilla's cosmology it is said to have the 4th as it was shown in the crossover zone fighter, Godzilla showsa can destroy the 4th Spacegodzilla is said to transcend the laws of physics and its supergravity is said to be above the dimensions making it scale in 5°D.Making Spacegodzilla to be Low complex Multiversal 5D Godzilla defeated him in the base form yet, in the burning form his explosion is said to cause destruction equal to the big bang, meaning that burning Godzilla would cause an explosion equivalent to the entire creation of a cosmology, the cosmology is 4D infinite. Toho in its guides mentions the speed of light exceeding/transcending time, and Spacegodzilla has this speed, and this makes sense since mothra leo has already shown power traveling through time just using speed, as Godzilla managed to react to Spacegodzilla's crystals he would have this speed.
Conclusion:1C Loe complex Multiversal (5D) to 6D infinite
Speed: Infinite-Immeasurable
I'll be explaining cthulhu:
Stronger than the H.P Lovecraft humans Who in their final form(which get trascended by cthulhu) scale infinitely above extended modal realism, trascending It infinitely with with R>F trascendence.
Overral(lowballed): High outer-boundless
Speed: irrelevant
@@afix3102 yeah Cthulu is easily high-Outer to Extraversal. His aRchetype is just Boundless no question.
I debunked all this on quora.
I love the more in-depth videos, but I understand that others drop off if it's too long
Keep in mind, yall… he scaled Heisei Godzilla to low complex multiversal in his other vids. This was just a reasonable lowball on Heisei’s scaling vs Cthulhu’s avatar.
See you said avatar his weakest form crazy
Heisei is nowhere near multi universal. 😂
@Thecoolestnumberone if you watched the video you'd know that he very well is multiversal
@@citrusreality64 he isn't, and I have watched it, this is a fanboy channel.
@@Thecoolestnumberone I guess you just forgot that he upscale showa godzilla a guy who trains with another guy that blew up a 4D world and killed SpaceGodzilla a guy who uses supergravity which is a 5D construct
This was really cool and I agree with the Verdict,I had a feeling the physical form would hurt him(though uni+ is better than I’ve seen anyone else give Cthulhu’s physical form so that’s nice to see)
I hope we get more Cthulhu Mythos videos in the future(that would be awesome)
Nuclear Monster of Terror vs A Tentacled City Eater.
Coughing lizard vs big bang squid.
God I’d love to see an Extended Cthulhu video
The Reason why Cthulhu lost to a boat is because Cthulhu needs blood to maintain a physical form (And by Blood, I mean the Blood from cult sacrifices) so when that boat rammed into him, he lost all of his blood, his physical form died away and he went back to the void. Still, Cthulhu just woke up when that happened so maybe great old ones are at their weakest when they wake up or something idk. Still, Cthulhu at his best would mop the floor with Goji’s ass.
Damn, he's so shit at avatar creation that he goes from unstoppable threat to monster of the week
Maybe even joke
Cthullu at his regular which is his true form mops all versions of Godzilla
Agreed too bad he needs to nerf TF out of himself to fight da goat goji
@@ivanlupercio2599ok picture this: you, without limbs, without senses, lowered in 2D dimension vs a 1 yo baby
Who wins? The baby, obviously, why am i bringing this up? The without limbs+senses lowered in the 2nd dimension Is cthulhu, his true form would destroy every single Godzilla
@@afix3102 LMAO yeah I know that's why I said Cthulhu need to nerf TF out of himself to fight da goat goji I just love goji that's why I said the goat goji and I also know that Cthulhu true form stomps
Good video, but I think I have my first powerscaling video now. Showing how Marvel/DC Godzilla comps are far more powerful than people seem to think.
Not saying that you're wrong or right, the actual result means nothing to me, but to clarify that the Marvel and DC cosmologies are both far larger and more comparable to Lovecraft's cosmology [as described by Literary Who] than one might initially expect.
The Great Old Ones are stronger than the Great Ones according to there Wiki if you google it. Which the Great Ones live in the Dreamland which being there is bare minimum 1-A. Cthulhu is a Great Old One so he would automatically be above these 1-A Great Ones. Also Cthulhu on CSAP Wiki is 1-A for being above angled space which means being above the infinite spatial dimensions in the Lovecraft Cosmology. A single universe in the Lovecraft Cosmology has infinite spatial dimensions so destroying all of it or being a threat to all of it makes you High 1-B. The Dreamland is even crazier as it's 1-A+ in its entirety with all its layers. Then there are the Gates which only the Outer Gods scale too. But do keep in mind Cthulhu is public domain so his scaling is wonky because so many people got there hands on him.
The great old ones are the ones Cthulhu sent to conquer earth, the inhabitants of R'lyeh. He is not a great old one. Just watch the video by literary who, its in the description.
And chronic mentions him at the end
@@viktormajstorovic1618 The Lovecraft Wiki said he was a Great Old One, so I just went with it.
@@Nihilistic_Hopelessnesslove craft original works are already enough to scale cthullu to large outerversal to higher
The public domain thing is kinda the point though, cause if we look at other versions of godzilla they can get to similar ranges, definitely ratty, but because of cthulu being so inconsistent aswell it's kinda even lol
The fact that Heisei Godzilla's first L on this channel was against a character that most people think can solo fiction, and even then only under certain circumstances, really says something.
Yea your cooked if you actually think fodderzilla can beat any form of Cthulhu😭
????
Hmm so how does a cooked godzilla tastes like?
Godzilla in Hell is boundless… Bro literally negs Cthulhu
@5uez737 HellGoji is not even close to boundless lmao, what's with everyone thinking he's so powerful, he's almost absolute fodder.
Glad to see this match up I suggested way back happen
I had a feeling Heisei would win in clash against the living form of Cthulhu but I'm pleasantly surprised that Cthulhu stomps in his other forms
Guess it goes to show that you shouldn't underestimate elder gods
Now I wonder how Godzilla Ultima would fare considering the novelization implies what we see is merely the protection of a sleeping avatar giving me major Cthulhu vibes
Is there by any chance you can do showa Godzilla vs bowser that would fun matchup
16:18
BLODBORNE REFERENCE LET'S GOOOOOO
You are NOT beating the fanboy allegations Goji
I think people overhype heisei way too much
his hand got impaled by a vine lol
To be fair that vine is part Godzilla
@@Iamafanofthings50 to be fair that vine had his own DNA in it which means it isn't a normal vine
Keep ducking Lil bro
Heisei scales anywhere from universal+_low outerversal
Nah hes like planet level
He's a planet buster lmfao. Stop with these delusional multiversal metas
Still fodder to cthullu crazy
He's like planetary at best. 😂
@@CarnisonVoid high outer
I mean... Cthulhu doesn't even have to fight him to win because of everything he's capable of
I like the video and all but you kinda forgot one tiny important detail. Godzilla and Cthulhu actually cannonly fought each other in the recent "Godzilla vs. Cthulhu: A Death May Did Story" comic and Godzilla won so. Godzilla can canonly defeat Cthulhu or at least the version of him in the comic I mentioned.
I mean that cthulhu is featless, but defeating a cthulhu in any capacity is still insane
Can you do a lore scale Unicorn vs Kirby or one of them vs whoever?
Those two have some crazy high level feats. Unicorn being outside causality and Kirby being able to casually eat stars.
But of course death battle is doing hulk vs Godzilla & I’m still wondering if Godzilla has a chance if they composite him
Nope
@@gameuniverse5973you 🤡
There's no version of Godzilla that's outer like Hulk is so I'd say Hulk wins
@@RetroMagnus761godzilla in hell and DC godzilla are outer plus even ultima has outer args
Yes, and it's debatable. If individual forms are taken, then it depends which forms
While the stronger versions of Godzilla could certainly destroy a physical avatar of Cthulu in theory at least the idea that Cthulu could not use his powers from the void is fairly dubious at best.
Heisei Godzilla?
I guess that's fine then
Cthullu washed heisei when he given his normal form womp womp learn from goji he does Godzilla wank but he not delusional like you
All Godzilla needs is a boat and smack him repeatedly ala Pacific Rim, ahaha.
Day 1: Ben 10 vs the Big Three (Naruto, Luffy and Ichigo) including Goku
He beats all of them
@@ashuraomega1000 state all the diffs
Luffy neg diff
Naruto no-low diff
Ichigo mid diff
Assuming no alien x
Neg diff for all if using alien x
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Luffy: neg diff
Naruto: neg diff
Ichigo: neg diff
Goku: low diff
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
Og show comp?
Ben 10 debatable stops to Ichigo that has galaxy level scale
Reebot?
Stops at buu saga Goku at uni± scaling
Omniverse which include op aliens? Heck nah
Even species below celestial sapiens solos mid diff
Ben 10 no diff
Alien x isn't need to bully
That's absolutely overkill
Cthulhu literally just got hit with the Game Over screen
@@Plant-c9p and then pressed return since he has infinite life's and the brain breaking cheat code which affects all Living beings and should've destroyed Godzilla's two brains by just standing in front of him for two seconds.
Godzilla moments before disaster: “Nah, I’d win.”
Goji Chronic the type of guy to say godzilla out scales יְהוָ֥ה
For Cthulhu from where did you get the clips starting from 16:09? I'd like to see those Please
That comes from “love, death and robots”
@@Grug_Crood Thanks!😆
Depends on which goji you use if you use any goji below outer he loses
Saw this as I opened TH-cam. I dont even have to watch this pointless video. The fact you even thought there could be a match up is laughable. Cthulhu no diffs pretty much anyone
If you haven't done it already, could you do the Doom Slayer vs Master Chief?
Miguel Cobra Kai s6 vs Jack kickin it prime who wins?
Jack, neg - no diff
So, Godzilla beats Cthulhu for basically the same reason Freddy Krueger beats Pennywise. Outerversal true form goes brrrrrr, but that True Form isn't really applicable in most situations on neutral ground, so the weaker character would still technically win.
So his actual form is not applicable yet a form that heisei can't even use on his own and kills him is man Godzilla fans are delusional
@@gameuniverse5973using chronic logic though he didn’t even need burning
Nah I'd win all the matchs
Video 1 of asking for powerscaling the entire Godzilla 1998 universe (unmade godzilla 1996 movie included, script should be online).
cthulhu commits a murder
The murder being his own career lol
@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation oof cthullu won just as expected when he in his actually true state tsk tsk even a Godzilla glazer like Goji is smart enough to know that
put my fries in the bag bro your lizard in all versions is a mid tier mythos victim
Goji described exactly would happen at the end of the video cthullu just says one word and Godzilla gets vaporized that was the most accurate battle animation ever
@@gameuniverse5973Godzilla one shots + cope.
@@TrashCanOdorAww a Godzilla Fangirl. 😂
@@Thecoolestnumberone Aww a Cthulhu fangirl. 😂
Hey GOJI CHRONIC with Venom 3 now out you think you could do a VS. About Knull Vs. Goku Black?
While space Godzilla is a evil monster he does not care about human he will go at speed as he wants to. Just like Omni man when I’m the one time on a different planet
Cthulhu: 🤡
Azathoth: 💀
Yogsothoth: ☠️
Unless its ultima godzilla, Cthulu wins. I love godzilla and the monsters in it, but Cthulu is literally a god-like being who lives outside the universe.
Ultima is only universal+, with only POSSIBLE Hyperversal implications
Ultimata is 13D at best while Cthulu gets to like boundless in this vid
Ultima ain't doing shit
GiH slams both Cthulhu and Ultima at the same time lol it’s not close
@@hakeeemquaviantaviustrue form cthullu would literally blink gih away
1:00
Scaling wise for anyone mad or coping
I wonder if legendary or showa Godzilla can beat him
They cant
My guy said legendary like he not fodder in this conversation
In physical form? Showa MIGHT legendary...no not unless it's the dazed weakend and semi blind cthulhu that a boat managed to bleed out but healthy cthulhu in physical form mauls monsterverse and ture form...is a goku,doctor Manhattan,Godzilla in hell and superman victimizer sooooo...yeah
Showa solos with negative diff
@@kaijumaniacytgets soloed*
If you go deep into the cosmology, the physical universe is way higher than what you said and in base form he’s able to beat who can manipulate that with ease
Multiversal Godzilla is one of the funniest things I have heard in a while. 💀
This is the same guy who tried to say Bayverse Optimus Prime was universal because of a few non canon tie in comics and hyperbole statements
Well if you watched the video you'd understand how he gets to multiversal he even gets to low complex multi at his highest and blatantly upscale showa godzilla a guy who trains with zone fighter who blew up a 4-D world
@@IsaiahJones-rw1pche had him at hyperversal actually and the comics he used are soft canon his hyperbole was using the 17D statment at face value bit unlike bayverse godzilla has uni+ feat one screen almost all of which base heisei is directly stated SEVERAL TIMES to upscale
There is a comic coming out that is about godzilla vs cthulhu
I would win
Kyd0r no wae
Can confirm
We*
Yep
And the Godzilla vs Cthulhu comic will have Godzilla scale above Full Power True Cthulhu let’s gooooo 💯
Azatoth (Cthulu Mythos) vs TOAA (Marvel)
Azathoth is soloing the verse no competiton
Azathoth negs
*Here is the thing:*
In HP Lovecraft lore all if not most Gods exist, this includes Egiptian Gods, Greek Gods and others, and all of them are put immediately below Azatoth as he is the only who is truly above all of them, and since TOAA is implied to ressemble the Christian God...
So basically unless a deity that is based on "God" is directly stated to be above Azatoth, Azatoth immediately outscales it... Unless the cosmology of that verse is so absurd that it can outscale Azatoth just by statements alone
@@francoborda826 yeah but is lovercraft cosmology really that bigger than Marvel?
@@Emperorghidorahedits can you explain the diffrence in scale of this cosmologies?
Ah yes multiversal missiles and acid makes a lot of sense along with universal + boats.
Yes
@@Maskman8547 I know your being sarcastic... I hope.
@@DenishabaniIt makes sense, it's just hilariously absurd
Do more planet of the ape videos please
Man, usually i Dont bother to comment in this kind of video but there are some mistakes here and my boy cthulhu here so i guess i can make an exception.
For the First part of the scaling, about the cals i can't say Nothing cuz i am not good in maths lol, but for the thing in 10:50 i can say that there are multiple statement regarding a infinite size universe: in the story "the trap" "from Beyond" "whisper in the darkness" "the mound" "the colour out of space" so yes, it is a high uni feat if you think that there are also infinity star cuz infinity:2 is still infinity, but if you think like the number of stars is not infinite and it's just a infinite empty space then i guess the calc is fine.
Another thing, cthulhu was NOT born in a star, i know you used that one passage from call of cthulhu(First story of cthulhu), but we have multiple confermation in other stories like "at the Mountains of madness" "the Shadow out of time" whisper in the darkness" that cthulhu was indeed not born in a star...
Here 12:30 other mistakes,the scan you use "from Beyond" it's not in reference to the dreamlands but to the physical universe cuz the whole context of that story Is crawford wanting to see what's Beyond human perceptions, basically answering to questions like "why dogs dazzle to random things in the dark?" with the help of ultra-violet (yeah Lovecraft was afraid of new things lol) also this story like i mentioned before cointains some infinite size statement for the physical universe + other interesting statements.
The other statement is the one from "through the Gates of the silver Key" which with the context Is yog sothoth telling carter that the notion of his world being Just 3D is limited and there are infinite spatial dimensions, and even this is a incomplete knowledge, cuz then there is the complete knowledge which is, "that every lower D is cut by an higher D till reaching an archetypal infinity" which in that story is presented as basically a concept of dimensionality, it's also Something stated to be undimensioned, so yeah the physical universe is already outer via just that argument alone.
if you want a easy scaling chain for cthulhu, here it's one:
Cthulhu > great Ones(gods of earth) via cthulhu being born in the ultimate chaos and everthing from there is superior to the great One which holds power ONLY in the dreamlands of earth( dream Quest of unknown kadath) and the great ones as stated in the "dunwich horror" to be undimensioned, but there could be far far far more to say about the cosmology and the inverse of the verse but i will stop here cuz man, i typed for like for 30 minutes and i don't want to continue, sorry for the overall grammatics but english is not my native language and i am dysorthographic and dysgraphic.
have a good day.
For the people that dont know, Godzilla obliterated Satan and God at the same time, Cthulu ain't doing sh*t let alone driving Godzilla insane as Godzilla's hatred is more powerful than whatever mind bs Cthulu does.
In a fools mind, yes that happened
Cthulhu does not drive people insane. Some 1940s ish era sailors saw a human shaped fish mountain that smelled like the most horrid thing in the world with dragon wings and a six eyed squid on where its head should be take a walk and went googledybunkers. the only thing about the other gods that makes people go insane is that they're big and ugly. Hell, the only way to defeat Nyarlathoteps avatar is to look at the avatar through its weird summoning rock to see his true form and not go insane. You don't even have to be the chosen one or some shit, just look at his ugly mug and he fucks off. Granted he is REALLY ugly.
@@viktormajstorovic1618 check yo facts before you comment nonsense
All gods are beneath cthullu in love craft btw which includes the Christian god
@@gameuniverse5973 fool
17:52 ITS JUST A BURNING MEMORY MENTIONED
EVERYWHERE AT THE END OF TIME MENTIONED RAHHHHHHHHHH🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One low balls to extraverse
The other can only get there with high ball
what's Extraverse
@@eduardopantoja9115 beyond high outer
@@_Spider42 isn't that boundless
@eduardopantoja9115 on vsbw yes but I use csap which has it as extraverse
@@_Spider42 so is there anything beyond Extraverse like high extraverse or is it like hypervstal in which there technically are different teirs within Hyperveral like the 6th demsnion, the 7th demsnion and ect, but it's repetitive to add a new name since infinite demsnions can exist and it would be better to just end the name to hyperveral and move in to the different teir and a new name
THE GODZILLA MEATRIDING IS WWWIIIILLLLLLLD!!!!
Cthulhu SLAAAAAPS!!!!
That one comic: allow me to introduce myself...
The battle of the overrated and wanked, surprised kratos , goku, and Superman isn’t here
Don't forget Sonic and Saitama
Don't forget Alien X and Green lantern
Well I was right cthullu smashes when he not put in his weakest form
Literally said what I said is shown at the end of the video cthullu just says a word and Godzilla gets vaporized
Godzilla. He’s basically invulnerable. He never dies, he just gets beaten and then goes to sleep to regen for another day. Not only that he is energized by nuclear explosions
In my head Godzilla is the equivalent of Superman but for the titan universe.