***** No it was an accident. The overlay is saying "The PS4 can be placed upright, while Microsoft has stated that the Xbox 1 can not." He accidentally used a clip from the previous video. But he linked to a fixed version via annotation.
i generally dont understand why these take so long to come out... literally theres a 2 month gap per episode... so im guessing part 4 will be out by Christmas right..??
It's a lot of research and editing. Also I'm certain making Console War videos is not his only job at TechnoBuffalo. He probably has his daily work, and then this with spare work time. Or possibly he does this completely on his own time idk.
Once again an AMAZINGLY well done video! It felt like this took forever to come out since the last episode but good things take time. I'm already eager to see the next episode. Well done, sir!
Awesome video!! Consoles and their architecture, hardware and everything else are my biggest interest. Although I didn't know what a lot of things were in this video, I really liked it. It's so straight forward and leaves a clear mark on the big console debate. TechnoBuffalo really knows a ton of stuff about consoles.
That's very true! I own the PS4 and a pc, therefore I shall not speak shit about the xbox one until I have experienced it for myself! Damn fan boys ruining the gaming industry.
+L the otaku Exactly. I had a ps3 and an xbox 360 and I loved both of them. But I preferred the ps3 over the xbox. That doesn't mean I hate xbox. Fan boys tend to only own one console and talk shit about the other one without even trying it.
Murrdogg Gaming i like to use that as a point, but it isn't exactly a defining factor p.s i am what Xbox fan boys call a Sony pony, sony ps4 runs through my sony tv and sony sorround sound system
As of January 3rd 2015, PS4 has sold 18.5 million units. Xbox One sold 11 million units. PS3 sold 84.6 million units 360 sold 84.5 million units. PlayStation beats Xbox.
balmyvenus oh I'm sorry. xbox1 owner huh. You must have the strength to pull through these tough times. I may not understand your sorrow but I feel for you. Take it one day at a time and eventually you will pull yourself from the gutter, BELIEVE IT!
I have both the Xbox One and the PS4, and I much rather prefer the Xbox One. In my opinion, it was honestly very ignorant of you to say that the console war is "over" when the consoles are not even 10 months old yet.
RaspingPompano2 Second Son, Killzone ShadowFall Mul, Driveclub, Knack, Deep Down, Warframe, Planetside 2, The last of us remastered, Farcry 4, Trials Fusion, FIFA 14, NFS rivals, e.t.c
I get excited like a child a on christmas morning whenever I see that a new round has been uploaded!...But, why didn't it show up on my feed? I found this video just now because I remembered the last round and decided to look it up. Come on, a lot of people want to see this, but I feel like it's getting buried with the big amount of other videos that are uploaded at the same time. That said, please keep em coming!
+Ben Clausen and MAX CARROLL JOIN ME CONSOLE PEASANTS, AND ASCEND TO GODHOOD. ENJOY YOUR 792P 30FPS GAMING, WHILE I ENJOY 1440P 60FPS FOR THE SAME PRICE.
I think people are really underestimating what this compute stuff means. Ps4 is capable of 64 compute commands, just as a R 290x, and this will show in the future. NaughtyDog released a trailer for Uncharted 4 at E3. Most people thought it was CGI. NaughtyDog said it was realtime and not only that, it also ran at 1080p and 60FPS! NaughtyDog will once again set a benchmark and if the pull these visuals off in the who game, I'm pretty sure that will be the best looking game across all plattforms(including PC) by the time it comes out. What we've seen at E3 is just so far beyond everything else...
certainly in this gen xbox one will not beat ps4 in any way. Like in last gen xbox 360 was superior to ps3, this gen belongs to the ps4. I have a feeling that microsoft slacked off and thought everyone who had an xbox 360 would just upgrade to an xbox one but thats not the case even I switched from an xbox 360 to ps4 because the ps4 is just better in every way. I think microsoft will release a v2 of the xbox one in 2015 which will correct some of the issues with the current xbox one but will piss people off as they've just brought the new xbox one.
in terms of gaming, yea, the ps4 definitely has the edge. In terms of an all in one home entertainment system, the xbox wins that by a lands slide but they didnt market it right. all Microsoft had to do was match performance of the ps4 (which shouldnt have been that hard) and keep all the features it has now....bunch of idiots at microsoft fucked it all up and now they are seeing what happens.
Not really Ps3 more are superior than the Xbox 360 just that they cram a lot of stuff in it then it became too expensive so people were turn off by that.
Jonathan Libby While I haven't tried the new Xbox I agree that it is the better entertainment system but now that they made the Kinect an option again and looking back at E3 2014 I got a sense that Microsoft have started to lead away from the all in one entertainment idea and taking it back to being a gaming system. I could be wrong though. As for the hardware it's clear that they chose for a weaker system in order to keep the price as low as possible, if they opted to have the same specs as the PS4 then you could expect to have had another $100 on the price tag.
PS3 is clearly the superior winner. It's sold more, provides more value, still getting exclusives, and getting a boost from PS Now so people without the console can play its games
These video are amazing. I'm mainly an Xbox person, however I still have a PS3 because I love video games, no matter the platform. I recently purchased a PS4 that I'm waiting to be shipped, so these videos are helping me see that I did in fact make the right choice.
I honestly prefer the Xbox One for one reason, and one reason only.. Controls. I was brought up on an Xbox so that's what I have stayed with. My Dad did have a PS1 too but I still preferred the original Xbox. But if I got a PS4 (I currently have an Xbox One.) I would still be more than happy with it. All this fighting is ridiculous. Why do we continue to fight about next gen consoles and why don't we just enjoy the games? Sure PS4 has some pretty good hardware and sure XONE has better cooling, power usage (overall), etc but who really cares? If you wan't a perfect machine then get a PC. The only reason I own a console is because I enjoy playing with friends (Over LAN.) So can we really stop fighting and just enjoy what we have and be excited for what we will get in the future? Is that really too much to ask for?
***** You don't need to post a comment to start a debate about the subject at hand, he just said what he thinks is true and in my opinion it is. Saying that ps 4 is bettet than xbox one is just.......meh, 'cause for me, it 's not about the hardware, but rather...the games, yeah, ps 4 has some cool ones and xbox one does too, but I've got xbox and I'm happy with it :) I think that all gaming machines are alike (but I mean like they all can handle games realy, realy, realy well and that is all you need). Also, PC master race xD
PS4 actually can use the triggers for the same controls as box. Like The Last of Us uses L2 and R2 by default for aim and shoot. I'll bet other games can too.
This dude is right we should stop this stupid console wars, and we have to admit it guys they're both good consoles. And I'm saying I would love to have a ps4 and Xbox one, but I only have a PS3 and Xbox 360. This dude is right we should stop this
Pretty good video, and I dont see any glaring errors, although there are a few minor ones. Well I'm an Xbox fanboy, so I'll paint a good picture for Xbox. While more games are 1080P on PS4, it seems like the gap is closing lately. More games seem to be showing parity. Recent examples include the UFC demo, which was 900P on both, the announcement that Destiny will be 1080P 30 FPS on both, the announcement that Battlefield Hardlines is aiming for 1080P/60 FPS on both, the Witcher 3 developer stating they are aiming for 1080P on Xbox One, and that he expects most Xbox One games to be 1080P as time goes on, and so forth. I'd say, due to having to code around the ESRAM, the Xbox One is the more difficult to develop for. While this isn't good, it also means the Xbox likely has more hidden or untapped power not currently being used than PS4. And might well show more graphical improvement than PS4 in the future. Plus, Microsoft recently gave 10% of the GPU back to developers that was used by Kinect. And, Direct X 12 could also provide the Xbox One with another performance boost, though it wont be a giant one. All helping it gain on PS4. One helpful thing about Xbox One is the ESRAM cannot be accesed by the CPU. In contrast, there are slides showing that the PS4 GPU takes a bandwidth hit when the CPU is accessing the GDDR5. For example, if the PS4 GPU alone is accessing 176GB/s by itself (only possible in theory of course), then the CPU comes in and accesses 10GB/s, instead of the GPU having 166 GB/s left, it may go down to only 130GB/s, with total system bandwidth of 130+10=140 GB/s, well below the theoretical peak of 176 GB/s. If the PS4 CPU accesses 20GB/s, the total system bandwidth available may fall further, to say 120 GB/s. In a way this can help give the X1 more pure bandwidth, as the ESRAM does not have to deal with this kind of bandwidth contention with the CPU. There is some evidence of this, several PS4 games have oddly, lacked anisotropic filtering, while the X1 and PC versions have it (the latest example is Murder: Soul Suspect). While some attribute this to an Unreal Engine bug, at least one game, Strider, that is not on UE has shown the same issue on PS4. There is some thought this is evidence of a bandwidth crunch on PS4, as AF isn't computationally heavy, but does use bandwidth. BTW, it's been confirmed both consoles have 6 CPU cores for games. forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2373096 Not only that, but while the X1 only has 5GB of RAM available for games, that number is even less for PS4, 4.5GB. This is something that will send PS4 fanboys into fits of denial, but it is fact. In this case I'll include a link, here www.dualshockers.com/2014/04/02/how-infamous-second-son-used-the-ps4s-8-4-5-gb-of-ram-cpu-and-gpu-compute-to-make-our-jaws-drop/ There are other links as well, both Killzone and The Order only use 4.5GB RAM, proved by developer slides, and no PS4 games use 5GB that are known, so it's almost certainly the PS4's unofficial cap. On the downside for Xbox, leaked benchmark slides indicate the X1's CPU, despite a higher clock, and the same model as PS4, actually performing a bit worse. It could be nothing but a benchmark anomaly, but some have suggested the X1's hypervisor OS may be causing a level of software overhead in X1 CPU that PS4 CPU lacks. So, the on paper 150 mhz edge for X1 CPU may not exist, in fact it may be at a slight deficit. This is all conjecture really, though. I think it's worth noting there's a theory that PS4's extra CU's are not really useful for graphics. There are many vague references to this from a Naughty Dog presentation, to Mark Cerny interviews, to the original VGLeaks specs which claim the PS4 is "balanced" at 14 CU's. The idea would be, the system is bottlenecked somewhere else, be it CPU, or bandwidth, or fixed function GPU units. Cerny seemed to intend the "extra" CU to be used on compute work. This is vague enough, but it is at least possible that the extra CU's in PS4 cant be used for prettier graphics. In which case, it's CU advantage quickly becomes less relevant. Another minor note, PS4 may have 50% more CU's/TMU's, but the Xbox One's higher GPU clock makes the actual compute deficit about 41% in both cases. Finally, as the diagram shows, both designs ship with 2 disabled CU's for redundancy. PS4 with 20 CU's (18 in use) X1 with 14 CU's (12 in use). It's worth noting Microsoft actually strongly discussed enabling their 2 extra CU's, very late in X1 development, so X1 could have ended up with 14 CU's. I think then it would have been closer to PS4. However, unfortunately, Microsoft chose to stick with 12 CU's. Oh, there is one other technical error I'm editing in, the ESRAM has a theoretical max of 204/GB/s, not 192 GB/s as the video shows. This is because the upclock from 800 to 853 mhz boosted it slightly. One other thing about the discussions of the architecture's, many may look at it and wonder "why MS screwed up" or something. It's worth noting the XOne design leads to the use of cheaper DDR3 RAM. Which could enable it to be priced lower than PS4. MS has not used this weapon yet, but it's probably there. The Xbox One design was more of a tradeoff than a failure. They wanted a cheaper base system so they could include Kinect. That obviously failed miserably, but it's worth noting their design goals likely included "cheap", not "super powerful", so it can be viewed as a good design in that light. More like "good power for a low allotted budget". I mean all you need to do is compare this thing to the Wii U to see it could have been so much worse, "LoL" Oh, yet another, another, edit. It's also I think worth noting that PS4 was planned until very late as a 4GB machine. Had it launched at 4GB, the X1 design would have looked better, less powerful GPU but 2X the RAM. Microsoft likely saw DDR3 as the only/most feasible way to achieve 8GB. Both for technical reasons (the chips to enable 8GB on PS4 only came about recently) and for cost reasons (MS though 8GB GDDR5 too expensive). It appears MS bet wrong, Sony swung for the fences and delivered 8GB of GDDR5. However, most likely scenario was that NOT occurring, and had it NOT occurred, again the X1 design would look better today.
the true is ps4 was never 50% more powerful than xbox one, that was just bullshit that the game media created since 2013 just to extol more the ps4 and elude the people to buy more the ps4 thinking that he i better than xbox one. is the epecs on paper ps4 may have show more "power" ins some points than xbox one, but that was never really showed on multi-plataform games, because the developers ways try to keep the same graphic quality in every plataform , so then this why most of games have the same graphics on ps4 and xbox one since 2013. ps4 may have a little more power in gpu like the 1152 stream processors and 1.84 tflops, against the 768 stream processors and 1.31 tflops on xbox one, but the speed of xbox one gpu´s is better being at 853 mh/z against the 800 mh/z on ps4. and the cpu of xbox one is better being 8 cores with 1.75 gh/z against 8 cores with 1.6 gh/z , and finally the ps4 8 gb of ram may being more modern with the gddr5 with 176 gb/s against a convencional ddr3 with 68gb/s of xbox one the xbox one have some hide power the secundary memory esram with 204 gb/s .
Fate Flowing www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare I think you may have misinterpreted the video because they agree that the ps4 is more powerful.
The same advantage ESRAM has is passed to EDRAM in Wii U- like XBONE, Wii U's CPU/GPU MCM have a DIRECT connection to EDRAM (as L3/framebuffer respectively). The 2GB of DDR3 can be used as temporary cache to be streamed to 32MB of EDRAM for instantaneous texture fetching and large amounts of shader effects. TechnoBuffalo I hope you have your facts in order when do Round 4 on Wii U- no one seems to have that down, and instead are just pointing to the same re-used source for information that still hasn't gotten beyond Wii Mode, much less gotten an accurate depiction of what the console's true specifications are or what it can achieve.
Let's put it this way: we're all a community of gamers and gaming is our passion. Both the consoles are incredible, personally I own both and enjoy each of them the same. So what's the point of fighting over it? I just don't understand this.
O.M.G Too much information. this is the 1st time I get new information like this. Which means I understood lots of things, therefore my thanks is honorably being granted to you.
xjakekyrianx I mean it was pretty ridiculous but at that time it was the cheapest Blu Ray player in the world and not to mention it was more powerful than the Xbox 360 by a longshot
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That's not true because you need to base this off of real time not in slow motion because i know that no one can see these slight graphical differences without slow motion. And it really doesn't matter much cause Xbox has always shown to improve as the years go on. You can say that they don't like having the jump start.
Anthony Datuin the Xbox Fanboy would get beat up by the PlayStation and the PC fan and after it was over the PlayStation fan and the PC fan would shake hands and make peace.
How ironic that the Wii U continues to get 1080p 60fps games yet PS4 and Xbox One can't seem the handle that. (I own a PS4. 90% of the games are NOT 60fps).
Me too i game on pc but it's just so complicated like there's no proper menus for battlefield (you have to go to battlelog), uplay is required to play ubisoft games, steam's drm and how many popups come out when you turn on your pc :( But yeah i'm enjoying both like the ability to mod on pc and the simplicity of ps4 :)
when i had my ps3, the blu ray drive went out on it 3x, each time i sent it back it took them almost 3 months to fix. so no, they dont "just work" plus if my graphics card went out on my pc, i could send it back and get a working one in a week or less.
There are plenty of other things that can be removed or lowered to allow that change. I wouldn't be too excited until we see what the final products look like. Most claims already fall short especially in the frame rate department on the Xbox one.
Evan Contreras If so there will be things removed for PS4 games since for non-exclusive game developers/publishers will want to do everything in there power to make games seem as close as possible on both consoles. And on some comparison videos I have seen XO actually looks better but it's a small difference both ways.
Then this vid is strictly for you guys that can't buy both consoles. Buy your favorite or buy the best system built which is the ps4. I don't think you'll go wrong either way.
It's a great console, I love it, you won't regret it. Although, I still recommend buying a ps4 if you can. They each serve different purposes and I'm glad I got both.
I hope you aren't saying that out of fanboyism. Personally, I also plan on getting the Xbox One, but I have done my research in making my decision. I prefer the Xbox One because the exclusives excite me more.
Zaryab B It just boosted its performance now. Now it could do 60 fps and 1080p. Microsoft is heading into the right direction. Im going to buy an xbox one
I'm getting PS4 this New Year and swapping its HDD with 256GB SSD for super smooth, fast experience because i use PC as my main Gaming machine so need that feel :-D
Unfortunately it won't work as well. The PS4 is limited to SATAII. Digital Foundry has already done tests on this and the difference in loading times and what not is not worth the loss of storage and the increase in price. Get a 7200 RPM, 64mb cache 1 TB drive and call it a day.
This technobuffalo reviewer is obviously a Sony-pony fan boy! He failed to mention the Xbox One's four DMA (Direct Memory Access) or data-move engine units! The Xbox One's custom built sound processor! And the fact that the Xbox One will have an immediate advantage when cloud computing (online multiplayer servers & processors) and finally in it's CPU with DX12 & Tile Resources that will leave the PS4 to old game engines and last generation's graphics design standards.
***** Cloud computing is excuse to have weaker hardware and always-on DRM, DMA does not help with slow DDR3 memory, DX12 just allows better access to hardware by developers (Already possible on consoles) and PS4 contains background processor to downloading
@Marcuss2- Uhh...cloud computing has been around before you were born! Microsoft's DX12 won't be available until 2015! The Esram & DDR3 along with the DMA engines help the overall graphics processing and ease up some of the bandwidth hogging that both the CPU & GPU put on these next-Gen console's main memory(ddr3 in xb1 & gddr5 in ps4) bandwidth! And Sony's PS4 doesn't have any processors that work to download content in the background! And I'll put my wager in this generation's console war on the inventor of DirectX & Direct3D!
You just stated the Xbox One's DDR3 RAM aids the Xbox One's DDR3 RAM. The PS4 can preform download operations in the background, and Sony will soon have Gaikai implemented.
Let's get one thing straight. I've never had an Xbox. The only consoles I've ever had are Nintendo 64 and PS3. I've got tons of games for my PS3. But honestly, I use the PS3 mostly for other purposes, like TH-cam, netflix and Spotify. And with PS4, I can't see what all the hype is about. How is it in any way a next-gen console compared to PS3? It's simply an upgraded version of PS3. Heck, simply calling it PS3.1 would make more sense. I tried PS4 at the store, and switching between apps and games are just as slow as they used to be. Which is bad! Then I see all the PS fanboys bashing on Xbox One. I don't even understand why. Why bother if you were never going to buy it in the first place. If anything Xbox users should've been the ones complaining. yet i see none of those. Let's be honest, if you really cared about the graphics so much, you'd rather buy a gaming PC. And a lot of those people saying they got the PS4 because the graphics are better, don't really use a TV that would let you see the difference as much. Isn't the actual gameplay more important than pointless graphics? And putting all the effort into all these graphics would only make it more time consuming to develop games, and in turn makes the consumer wait longer for the next game, and also pay more. Let's admit it, the cost on games has only increased, and I’d say it's already pretty darn expensive as it is today. Unless you're doing a side-by-side comparison and sitting 1 meter away from the TV, you won't really be able to see any difference between PS4 and Xbox One. I'm complaining about PS4 because I own a PS3, and to me the ps4 isn't providing what I was missing on PS3. I couldn't care any less about the graphics. I care more about the gameplay itself and being able to switch between apps and games fast. Which is why, to me, Xbox One seems more like a Next-gen console compared to PS4. Because, if I really cared about the Graphics, I'd rather buy a PC. I bought the console for the convenience. And to me, browsing through netflix without having to reach out for my dualshock, seems way more convenient. In my poinion: Games like Beyond: Two Souls, are extremely beautiful. But games like Just cause 2 are far more enjoyable. Because gameplay itself is more important than the graphics. I enjoyed the PS Eye/Move games alot, and wished there were more of those. Which is why seeing people in comments section saying silly things like, a true gamer doesn't care about Kinect or PS Eye/Move, is extremely infuriating. No matter how much better graphics get. The gaming experience one gets from Playing Killzone 3 on a 3D TV with PS Move with move Sharp shooter is way way better. Instead of complaing about how Sony didn't do much improvements on PS Eye, you see Playstation fanboys making a big fuzz about Xbox One and Kinect. Which makes no sense at all. Shouldn't you want to make your console get better instead of ridiculing the competition?
Kevin Varughese I'm not going to bash you over selecting the Xbox One for entertainment system. Now, you cannot agree that the Playstation is superior than Xbox in gaming. Game consoles are made for gaming, if you wanted a entertainment system like switching channels; mind as well buy a dvr. Its cheaper. Playstation 4 is meant for gaming.
Kevin Varughese I'm not going to bash you over selecting the Xbox One for entertainment system. Now, you cannot agree that the Playstation is superior than Xbox in gaming. Game consoles are made for gaming, if you wanted a entertainment system like switching channels; mind as well buy a dvr. Its cheaper. Playstation 4 is meant for gaming.
Reynaldo Estrada Xbox One is just as much of a gaming console as PS4 is. Only thing PS4 has got over Xbox One is slightly better graphics. And that too on paper. It would take years before we would actually get to see any significant difference in grahics. Even then, the games would be cheaper on Xbox One. Bashing me or not is of no essense here. You're bashing Xbox One just like a PS4 fanboy would do. a DVR? Seriously? So what's PS4? an over-priced low-end gaming PC? I wouldn't say it is, but by your logic, it would have to be.
+Kevin Varughese My son, you cannot say graphics don't matter. They do matter! And that's what LP (the guy in this video) was saying. There is a significant difference once you get to larger T.V's. I'm that much of a fan, rather I'm a fanboy of Logic. The mostly reasonable console is Playstation either way you put it. You're a kid for not paying attention to this video. What are you trying to prove? I see that you're getting a console not just for the gaming but for T.V and other Aps. If you're trying to get the best console for gaming, the Playstation is the console you're looking for. According to Techno buffalo, the Playstation controller beats the Xbox controller. You can't say that "Playstation only beats Xbox by graphics.". You can't say all apples are red because some day some one will show you a green apple and you'll feel ridiculously stupid like now.
Reynaldo Estrada I can't recall that technobuffalo said that the controller was better on PS4. A fanboy of logic? You mean the sort of logic where you said a DVR was better than Xbox One? Never did I say Graphics didn't matter. See what I mean with fanboys needing to lie about stuff? Most people sit 3+ meters away from the TV. Plenty of people, if not most, would be using a mediocre TV to play with. And yet again, I'm saying that there's more to gaming than just graphics. And in this video, they were taking about graphics. How can anyone not see the value in spliting screen to run an app alongside the game? Xbox is hands-down the better console for multi-tasking. Do people really not see the value in that itself? The only thing people have been complaining about was that graphics were better on PS4 compared with Xbox One. So I guess I don't really need to feel stupid. I never said graphics wasn't important. Only that there was too much focus on Graphics alone. 4k won't even be common for another couple years. So basically what PS4 fanboys are doing, is brainwashing everyone into believing that this is a huge deal breaker for everyone, which is not really true. Tell me, if I put a high-end gaming PC in front of my TV, would it be considered Next-Gen compared to PS4? By all PS4 fanboy logic, it would make sense. If so, why not just buy a gaming PC and hook it onto your TV? PC games are in fact cheaper than Console versions. And you get way better Graphics on a Gaming PC. In addition to that, you get all sort of Mods and other content for the PC. For the same price you pay for a PS4, you get a better gaming PC. And way more Indie games on a PC... So, why the heck by PS4 or Xbox One then? Especially if Graphics was all that mattered?! There could be 2 answers to that question. #1: You're simply an Idiot. #2: Or you know that there's more to a gaming console than just graphics. And you value this.
0:36 makes this entire 'console war' (and all the others as well) OBSOLETE, because after 25 years of controllers, mushrooms, and graphic processors this is still the size of it. It doesn't matter how significantly powerful the PS4 is over the XboxOne, sucky games in 1080p running above 30fps will still suck. Games usually decide the winner of the console gen as they ALWAYS have.
So Sony wins by default? because they have 3-4 times more internal studios,... that spit out more exclusives (sometimes in a week) than at least 360 had in a year for the last 3-4 years
Okay? we are still early in this console war? like it or not PS4 is kicking xbox one's ass. plus everybody knows PlayStation has the best exclusives i played all exclusives last generation for both consoles and i can safely say ps exclusives are better.
brscic it's too early to call by simply going off of what happened last generation. Perhaps MS will invest into more first party studios or make their current ones bigger or pull the old MS stunt and go with 3rd party exclusives such as crytek with ryse. Again, too early to call on games.
Pc gamers are starting to get of my nerves, they come to a console video and then start saying about how pc is better, if people cared they would be on a video about console's vs PC's. I have a top computer that runs every game that I have/want on the top graphics but I still prefer my PS4 for gaming: Easier, more relaxing and I find it a more enjoyable experience. But that's just my opinion...
Yup the main drawback of xbox one is that it uses gddr3 memory which is old gen memory type .. Where as ps4 uses gddr5 and has 1.8 t flops of gpu power same as a gtx 1050 non ti model which in result makes the game look better with more stable fps at higher res than xb1
Thanks very much TechnoBuffalo. Your comparison videos helped me in deciding to buy my first ever console. I was always a PC gamer but now after watching your videos have decided to buy a console. Thanks again !!!
The effort that goes into making these consoles are amazing. From trying to make those things powerful, but also affordable, the logistics of it all, and also trying to keep up with competitors via rumors or planted moles. I definitely respect both Microsoft and Sony.
96 I bet you didn't even get this video I bet you don't even know what a APU is or what clocking speed is or what RAM is and it is 50% more powerful xbox one fanboy
Gino K. btw i have an apu in my system i am just i am more tech savy than you and not an x1 fanboy i just state facts its a fact this is incorrect ps4 being 50% more powerfull while it is more powerfulll the difference in gpu's is not that big if you acctually think about it not the way this guy in the video is hes wrong
96donov if you are a tech savvy pc gamer why do you have an APU!!!!!!!! you have to have a separate graphics card for good performance. an apu is for people that don't play games on there pc, but you still need it for other simple graphics processing.
I'm disappointed in both. When the x360 and ps3 they weren't maxed out from the start of. It took a few years before games reached the limit of what the console could do. Now they reached the limit from the start of. And these consoles are supposed to stay relevant for even longer than the last gen? If so we'll be having graphics from 2011 in 2021. And sure graphics aren't everything, but there will also be new gameplay mechanics and physics and features that simply won't be able to run on any of these consoles. I mean these consoles are struggling to keep a demanding game at 1080p! That should be piece of cake.
That's because HD gaming was pretty new at the of the release of those systems, and a lot of developers had to master it to get their games to look really good. Now HD gaming is the standard and many PCs have had PS4 and Xbone specs for years, so it is easier for games to push the systems from launch. Now if the systems were pushing a resolution higher than 1080p then that might be a different story.
I have to disagree i have a PC and a PS4 and my PC can run games at 1440p at around 70 fps and that looks much, much better than a PS4 or Xbone. I still like the PS4 but it is in no way as good looking as a high end gaming PC.
+josh Subet Yeh, but PC's are far less optimized and full of bugg patches that adds up to an enormous slow. So, if you do not own a GTX 980 SLI setup, you won't crank any game over 1080p on max settings.
I bought a ps3 first then got an xbox. Then the new generation came and I bought a ps4 first then got the xbox one, but every time I buy a game, I get it for xbox unless it's a playstation exclusive. I can't really tell a difference in gameplay, I guess I just prefer xbox. Just feels better for some reason.
Im a pc guy........ But if i would buy a console it would be a Playstation 4, but i dont know why. Is it fanboyism or just because my first console was a playstation 2?
I cannot imagine why people would opt for an Xbox One over a PS4 when you get a much more powerful system (nearly 30-50% powerful in may cases). 90% of the games that are multi-plats run better on the PS4. Hell I just read that Far Cry 3 would be running at 1080P on PS4 and only 900P on the One (FYI, 900P to 1080P is nearly 30% jump in pixels so it is a huge deal). I for one made the 360 my primary console but MS dropped the ball and am a PS covert.
I cannot imagine why people would opt for either console both have weak laptop C.P.U's and last gen G.P.U's the only thing that should be relative is console exclusives.
henrikroxs how am I being naive just stating a fact, sure if you want a weak console that can't handle true next gen games like watchdogs (worse mod) then buy a console, by the way you know you don't have to build your own P.C don't you?
henrikroxs right because you'r going to buy a gaming P.C from hp, no. I was talking about a local shop building on for you or in the case of the UK Overclockers or US someone like Ironside Computers. you can easily build one your self for a much better price, there are even youtube videos that tell you what the P.C is capable of, what to buy, how to put it together and install everything, some have Amazon wish lists for all the products you need Windows less superior OS, not for gaming.
Did anyone else hear Double Voices at 3:48 ?
Yeah, happened here too.
***** No it was an accident. The overlay is saying "The PS4 can be placed upright, while Microsoft has stated that the Xbox 1 can not." He accidentally used a clip from the previous video. But he linked to a fixed version via annotation.
Ikr
RedDead36 i did
Yes wtf lol
i generally dont understand why these take so long to come out... literally theres a 2 month gap per episode... so im guessing part 4 will be out by Christmas right..??
Yup
what if he edits the video all by himself? Or has a family to take care of?
Dude7469 but he doesnt edit these videos... in case u forgot that...i think Jon Q edits them...
It's a lot of research and editing. Also I'm certain making Console War videos is not his only job at TechnoBuffalo. He probably has his daily work, and then this with spare work time. Or possibly he does this completely on his own time idk.
rickygreengiant Sorry to inform you that Jon Q doesn't work at TB anymore... He left a while ago
The console wars are no longer about which system is the best, it's about which system is the least inferior.
Wtf happened at 3:48 with the DUAL AUDIO?!
The way the music picked up at the end nuanced to a sense of excitement like this was the apotheosis of the gaming industry.
Once again an AMAZINGLY well done video! It felt like this took forever to come out since the last episode but good things take time. I'm already eager to see the next episode. Well done, sir!
Audio overlayed from previous episode around 4 mins....
Awesome video!! Consoles and their architecture, hardware and everything else are my biggest interest. Although I didn't know what a lot of things were in this video, I really liked it. It's so straight forward and leaves a clear mark on the big console debate. TechnoBuffalo really knows a ton of stuff about consoles.
Most of the people commenting that one is better than the other most likely didn't ever use the other console
That's very true! I own the PS4 and a pc, therefore I shall not speak shit about the xbox one until I have experienced it for myself! Damn fan boys ruining the gaming industry.
+L the otaku Exactly. I had a ps3 and an xbox 360 and I loved both of them. But I preferred the ps3 over the xbox. That doesn't mean I hate xbox. Fan boys tend to only own one console and talk shit about the other one without even trying it.
THE-RC-DUDES i dont even have any of them but there are all good
yeah,well,I have four rrod'd shitboxes that disagree.
I've used both. And have both right now. Xbox is better deal wise and social wise. Ps4 is better by looks and game performance and it has boost mode.
Dude where's the next round it's been 6 months man.. :(
He doesn't want to piss off Microsoft too much I guess.
No point in more videos. PS4 sells at least double what Xbox One sells.
Murrdogg Gaming i like to use that as a point, but it isn't exactly a defining factor p.s i am what Xbox fan boys call a Sony pony, sony ps4 runs through my sony tv and sony sorround sound system
As of January 3rd 2015,
PS4 has sold 18.5 million units.
Xbox One sold 11 million units.
PS3 sold 84.6 million units
360 sold 84.5 million units.
PlayStation beats Xbox.
*UPDATE*
As of January 10th
PS4:18.6 million units sold
XB1: 11.1 million units sold
PS3: 84.7 million units sold
360: 84.5 million units sold
Pack it up troops. Console war is over. Ps4 domination!
Said nobody
balmyvenus oh I'm sorry. xbox1 owner huh. You must have the strength to pull through these tough times. I may not understand your sorrow but I feel for you. Take it one day at a time and eventually you will pull yourself from the gutter, BELIEVE IT!
I have both the Xbox One and the PS4, and I much rather prefer the Xbox One. In my opinion, it was honestly very ignorant of you to say that the console war is "over" when the consoles are not even 10 months old yet.
I have both the Ps4 and Xbox One Console, but i much rather prefer the Ps4 because of higher resolution and higher frame rate multiplat games :)
Too much people saying that they both have consoles. WTF. It's ok, to be a fanboy. By the way, i dont have any of the consoles. XD
overall ps4 is still more poweful, thats why more games run at 60fps 1080p on ps4 than on xbox one
its a fact cant argue with that
Tell me 1 game that runs 1080 at 60 frames per second steadily with no drop?? I can give a few on a different console.
RaspingPompano2 Second Son, Killzone ShadowFall Mul, Driveclub, Knack, Deep Down, Warframe, Planetside 2, The last of us remastered, Farcry 4, Trials Fusion, FIFA 14, NFS rivals, e.t.c
90% of ps4 games are locked at 30 fps
defToZzz you're drunk. get your facts straight. if bf4 on ps4 can runat 60fps....i dont even need to complete this sentence, your logic is stupid
I get excited like a child a on christmas morning whenever I see that a new round has been uploaded!...But, why didn't it show up on my feed? I found this video just now because I remembered the last round and decided to look it up. Come on, a lot of people want to see this, but I feel like it's getting buried with the big amount of other videos that are uploaded at the same time. That said, please keep em coming!
You guys seriously need to upload round 4.
Are you guys honestly still doing console wars when it's almost been a year since they're release? WOW!
Ikr PS4 won a long time ago...
Seriously by the rate this is going, the next vídeo will release just in time for the PS5 and Xbox Two debut.
Your prediction was right ✊🏾
I want both!
Same
+Ben Clausen and MAX CARROLL JOIN ME CONSOLE PEASANTS, AND ASCEND TO GODHOOD. ENJOY YOUR 792P 30FPS GAMING, WHILE I ENJOY 1440P 60FPS FOR THE SAME PRICE.
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xbox and playstation should both get toghter and make a console
+Ruhaan Kakar are you gay ? ps4 can handle 1080 p and 30 fps
Its time for new consoles wars for ps5 and xbox series x and no one can compare them better than you.
This dude is top op
@@loop5720 true
Hahahhaha 7:20 was unexpected 😂! Nice comparison. Very detailed and easy to understand. Thanks and good job.
This video is very informative
I think people are really underestimating what this compute stuff means.
Ps4 is capable of 64 compute commands, just as a R 290x, and this will show in the future.
NaughtyDog released a trailer for Uncharted 4 at E3. Most people thought it was CGI. NaughtyDog said it was realtime and not only that, it also ran at 1080p and 60FPS!
NaughtyDog will once again set a benchmark and if the pull these visuals off in the who game, I'm pretty sure that will be the best looking game across all plattforms(including PC) by the time it comes out.
What we've seen at E3 is just so far beyond everything else...
certainly in this gen xbox one will not beat ps4 in any way. Like in last gen xbox 360 was superior to ps3, this gen belongs to the ps4. I have a feeling that microsoft slacked off and thought everyone who had an xbox 360 would just upgrade to an xbox one but thats not the case even I switched from an xbox 360 to ps4 because the ps4 is just better in every way. I think microsoft will release a v2 of the xbox one in 2015 which will correct some of the issues with the current xbox one but will piss people off as they've just brought the new xbox one.
in terms of gaming, yea, the ps4 definitely has the edge. In terms of an all in one home entertainment system, the xbox wins that by a lands slide but they didnt market it right. all Microsoft had to do was match performance of the ps4 (which shouldnt have been that hard) and keep all the features it has now....bunch of idiots at microsoft fucked it all up and now they are seeing what happens.
According to TechnoBuffalo the PS3 was superior to the Xbox 360. Both were great consoles though, amazing exclusives on both!
Not really Ps3 more are superior than the Xbox 360 just that they cram a lot of stuff in it then it became too expensive so people were turn off by that.
Jonathan Libby While I haven't tried the new Xbox I agree that it is the better entertainment system but now that they made the Kinect an option again and looking back at E3 2014 I got a sense that Microsoft have started to lead away from the all in one entertainment idea and taking it back to being a gaming system. I could be wrong though.
As for the hardware it's clear that they chose for a weaker system in order to keep the price as low as possible, if they opted to have the same specs as the PS4 then you could expect to have had another $100 on the price tag.
PS3 is clearly the superior winner. It's sold more, provides more value, still getting exclusives, and getting a boost from PS Now so people without the console can play its games
Resolution and graphics are indeed important. Plain and simple
+ danyal haley no in most of the games xbox one the worst because of the Resolution
These video are amazing. I'm mainly an Xbox person, however I still have a PS3 because I love video games, no matter the platform. I recently purchased a PS4 that I'm waiting to be shipped, so these videos are helping me see that I did in fact make the right choice.
Am I the only one wondering when part 4 of the console wars is coming out?
I honestly prefer the Xbox One for one reason, and one reason only.. Controls. I was brought up on an Xbox so that's what I have stayed with. My Dad did have a PS1 too but I still preferred the original Xbox. But if I got a PS4 (I currently have an Xbox One.) I would still be more than happy with it. All this fighting is ridiculous. Why do we continue to fight about next gen consoles and why don't we just enjoy the games? Sure PS4 has some pretty good hardware and sure XONE has better cooling, power usage (overall), etc but who really cares? If you wan't a perfect machine then get a PC. The only reason I own a console is because I enjoy playing with friends (Over LAN.) So can we really stop fighting and just enjoy what we have and be excited for what we will get in the future? Is that really too much to ask for?
I didn't post this comment fora debate..
***** You don't need to post a comment to start a debate about the subject at hand, he just said what he thinks is true and in my opinion it is. Saying that ps 4 is bettet than xbox one is just.......meh, 'cause for me, it 's not about the hardware, but rather...the games, yeah, ps 4 has some cool ones and xbox one does too, but I've got xbox and I'm happy with it :) I think that all gaming machines are alike (but I mean like they all can handle games realy, realy, realy well and that is all you need). Also, PC master race xD
PS4 actually can use the triggers for the same controls as box. Like The Last of Us uses L2 and R2 by default for aim and shoot. I'll bet other games can too.
This dude is right we should stop this stupid console wars, and we have to admit it guys they're both good consoles. And I'm saying I would love to have a ps4 and Xbox one, but I only have a PS3 and Xbox 360. This dude is right we should stop this
What's your gamertag for Xbox one
Xbox One will "NEVER" beat the PS4. PS4 all day baby!!!
Playstation Nation!!!!! WOAH!!!!!
Pretty good video, and I dont see any glaring errors, although there are a few minor ones.
Well I'm an Xbox fanboy, so I'll paint a good picture for Xbox. While more games are 1080P on PS4, it seems like the gap is closing lately. More games seem to be showing parity. Recent examples include the UFC demo, which was 900P on both, the announcement that Destiny will be 1080P 30 FPS on both, the announcement that Battlefield Hardlines is aiming for 1080P/60 FPS on both, the Witcher 3 developer stating they are aiming for 1080P on Xbox One, and that he expects most Xbox One games to be 1080P as time goes on, and so forth.
I'd say, due to having to code around the ESRAM, the Xbox One is the more difficult to develop for. While this isn't good, it also means the Xbox likely has more hidden or untapped power not currently being used than PS4. And might well show more graphical improvement than PS4 in the future.
Plus, Microsoft recently gave 10% of the GPU back to developers that was used by Kinect. And, Direct X 12 could also provide the Xbox One with another performance boost, though it wont be a giant one. All helping it gain on PS4.
One helpful thing about Xbox One is the ESRAM cannot be accesed by the CPU. In contrast, there are slides showing that the PS4 GPU takes a bandwidth hit when the CPU is accessing the GDDR5. For example, if the PS4 GPU alone is accessing 176GB/s by itself (only possible in theory of course), then the CPU comes in and accesses 10GB/s, instead of the GPU having 166 GB/s left, it may go down to only 130GB/s, with total system bandwidth of 130+10=140 GB/s, well below the theoretical peak of 176 GB/s. If the PS4 CPU accesses 20GB/s, the total system bandwidth available may fall further, to say 120 GB/s. In a way this can help give the X1 more pure bandwidth, as the ESRAM does not have to deal with this kind of bandwidth contention with the CPU. There is some evidence of this, several PS4 games have oddly, lacked anisotropic filtering, while the X1 and PC versions have it (the latest example is Murder: Soul Suspect). While some attribute this to an Unreal Engine bug, at least one game, Strider, that is not on UE has shown the same issue on PS4. There is some thought this is evidence of a bandwidth crunch on PS4, as AF isn't computationally heavy, but does use bandwidth.
BTW, it's been confirmed both consoles have 6 CPU cores for games. forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2373096
Not only that, but while the X1 only has 5GB of RAM available for games, that number is even less for PS4, 4.5GB. This is something that will send PS4 fanboys into fits of denial, but it is fact. In this case I'll include a link, here www.dualshockers.com/2014/04/02/how-infamous-second-son-used-the-ps4s-8-4-5-gb-of-ram-cpu-and-gpu-compute-to-make-our-jaws-drop/
There are other links as well, both Killzone and The Order only use 4.5GB RAM, proved by developer slides, and no PS4 games use 5GB that are known, so it's almost certainly the PS4's unofficial cap.
On the downside for Xbox, leaked benchmark slides indicate the X1's CPU, despite a higher clock, and the same model as PS4, actually performing a bit worse. It could be nothing but a benchmark anomaly, but some have suggested the X1's hypervisor OS may be causing a level of software overhead in X1 CPU that PS4 CPU lacks. So, the on paper 150 mhz edge for X1 CPU may not exist, in fact it may be at a slight deficit. This is all conjecture really, though.
I think it's worth noting there's a theory that PS4's extra CU's are not really useful for graphics. There are many vague references to this from a Naughty Dog presentation, to Mark Cerny interviews, to the original VGLeaks specs which claim the PS4 is "balanced" at 14 CU's. The idea would be, the system is bottlenecked somewhere else, be it CPU, or bandwidth, or fixed function GPU units. Cerny seemed to intend the "extra" CU to be used on compute work. This is vague enough, but it is at least possible that the extra CU's in PS4 cant be used for prettier graphics. In which case, it's CU advantage quickly becomes less relevant.
Another minor note, PS4 may have 50% more CU's/TMU's, but the Xbox One's higher GPU clock makes the actual compute deficit about 41% in both cases.
Finally, as the diagram shows, both designs ship with 2 disabled CU's for redundancy. PS4 with 20 CU's (18 in use) X1 with 14 CU's (12 in use). It's worth noting Microsoft actually strongly discussed enabling their 2 extra CU's, very late in X1 development, so X1 could have ended up with 14 CU's. I think then it would have been closer to PS4. However, unfortunately, Microsoft chose to stick with 12 CU's.
Oh, there is one other technical error I'm editing in, the ESRAM has a theoretical max of 204/GB/s, not 192 GB/s as the video shows. This is because the upclock from 800 to 853 mhz boosted it slightly.
One other thing about the discussions of the architecture's, many may look at it and wonder "why MS screwed up" or something. It's worth noting the XOne design leads to the use of cheaper DDR3 RAM. Which could enable it to be priced lower than PS4. MS has not used this weapon yet, but it's probably there. The Xbox One design was more of a tradeoff than a failure. They wanted a cheaper base system so they could include Kinect. That obviously failed miserably, but it's worth noting their design goals likely included "cheap", not "super powerful", so it can be viewed as a good design in that light. More like "good power for a low allotted budget".
I mean all you need to do is compare this thing to the Wii U to see it could have been so much worse, "LoL"
Oh, yet another, another, edit. It's also I think worth noting that PS4 was planned until very late as a 4GB machine. Had it launched at 4GB, the X1 design would have looked better, less powerful GPU but 2X the RAM. Microsoft likely saw DDR3 as the only/most feasible way to achieve 8GB. Both for technical reasons (the chips to enable 8GB on PS4 only came about recently) and for cost reasons (MS though 8GB GDDR5 too expensive). It appears MS bet wrong, Sony swung for the fences and delivered 8GB of GDDR5. However, most likely scenario was that NOT occurring, and had it NOT occurred, again the X1 design would look better today.
Thank you for this important information! I love your company's graphics engine, btw. It was amazing on Ryse: Son of Rome!
the true is ps4 was never 50% more powerful than xbox one, that was just bullshit that the game media created since 2013 just to extol more the ps4 and elude the people to buy more the ps4 thinking that he i better than xbox one. is the epecs on paper ps4 may have show more "power" ins some points than xbox one, but that was never really showed on multi-plataform games, because the developers ways try to keep the same graphic quality in every plataform , so then this why most of games have the same graphics on ps4 and xbox one since 2013. ps4 may have a little more power in gpu like the 1152 stream processors and 1.84 tflops, against the 768 stream processors and 1.31 tflops on xbox one, but the speed of xbox one gpu´s is better being at 853 mh/z against the 800 mh/z on ps4. and the cpu of xbox one is better being 8 cores with 1.75 gh/z against 8 cores with 1.6 gh/z , and finally the ps4 8 gb of ram may being more modern with the gddr5 with 176 gb/s against a convencional ddr3 with 68gb/s of xbox one the xbox one have some hide power the secundary memory esram with 204 gb/s .
How can anyone dislike this? You have all of the facts you need to make up a decision on what console you need
This video sounds so epic. Especially the narration. It's kind of awesome.
I love this guys presentation, even for someone that's not very tech savvy he gets his message across.
How is he not very tech savvy?
I wasn't saying he's not tech savvy, I was saying he does a great job getting his point across to other's that might not be tech savvy.
Don't quote me on this, but i think that you switched the information about the apu's of the Xbox One and PS4.
I dont believe so. I googled it and the info seems to be on point. I could be wrong though.
Can you give me your sources if you can? I think they're wrong because the PS4 seems to be showing more performance in testing.
Fate Flowing www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare
I think you may have misinterpreted the video because they agree that the ps4 is more powerful.
Dude, the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One. How do you not know this?
the framerate and the resolution is proof enough that he did not switch information.
Haha wow, I remember watching episode 2 of this when in was deciding between ps4 and xb1.
Now I have XB1 and couldn't be happier 😄😊
I agree
You could have been even happy'er whit a PS4!
Bike0r eh maybe, but I'm more than happy with xb1
Have you bought a series X, Nathan?
Always loved these videos LP. Much appreciated TB.
Issue at 3:51?
PS4 forever! This gen, Xbox will just always be in 2nd place!
Shut up Ps is Treaker u stick in middle i am done who like that shit have xbox controller the stick r separated
Jessica Imaly Did you go to school...at all?
Jessica Imaly Does that make a difference? Honestly Dualshock's symmetrical analog sticks felt better on my hands that XBOX's analogs.
Matthew Yohanes Xbox won last time dumb ass besides its now pretty even. pc for the win though
oops didn't mean you
This is the best comparison video I ahve ever seen. Why not make another console wars episode like PS4 slims, PS4 pro, Vs PC gaming?
The same advantage ESRAM has is passed to EDRAM in Wii U- like XBONE, Wii U's CPU/GPU MCM have a DIRECT connection to EDRAM (as L3/framebuffer respectively). The 2GB of DDR3 can be used as temporary cache to be streamed to 32MB of EDRAM for instantaneous texture fetching and large amounts of shader effects.
TechnoBuffalo I hope you have your facts in order when do Round 4 on Wii U- no one seems to have that down, and instead are just pointing to the same re-used source for information that still hasn't gotten beyond Wii Mode, much less gotten an accurate depiction of what the console's true specifications are or what it can achieve.
Laughed my ass off when you showed what powers these consoles
Why?
If Microsoft went with a more affordable option, then why did XB1 start at $500 where PS4 started at $400?
Kinect.
A Rare Lyric Well Kinect seems bad and pointless
Murrdogg Gaming Then don't buy it, DERP.
Sanji Chef Same here. Got my PS4. No regrets.
Corporate greed. They made 112$ per unit for the Xbox one. Playstation only made 43 dollars profit per unit.
Let's put it this way: we're all a community of gamers and gaming is our passion. Both the consoles are incredible, personally I own both and enjoy each of them the same. So what's the point of fighting over it? I just don't understand this.
Exactly man! I own both too, and love them equally, glad I found a level-headed person on this somment section.
+Anthony Strang Whenever I see a comment saying "Xbox One is shit" or "PS4 is shit" I just report them.....
Exactly, I do the same, whenever fanboys start fighting over their console, no matter which one.
Anthony Strang I so the same with spam comments as well
I own both as well but I do buy cross platform games on the ps4. The only reason I have the Xbox one is for the exclusives.
Lasse You are freaking hilarious and smart!!! I was bursting with excitement when I found out you made more!
O.M.G Too much information. this is the 1st time I get new information like this. Which means I understood lots of things, therefore my thanks is honorably being granted to you.
People who argue over 2 consoles which do the same thing facepalm.
Damn, looks like I made the right investment. Go Sony!!
well Microsoft does get greedy at times. Sony ranks as number 1 on my electronics company list.
xjakekyrianx I mean it was pretty ridiculous but at that time it was the cheapest Blu Ray player in the world and not to mention it was more powerful than the Xbox 360 by a longshot
XGamesProGaming
yes, and the ps3 blu ray player is a very good one, too. I think you can even watch 3d blu rays on it. correct me if I'm wrong.
xjakekyrianx It got Blu-Ray (which is unusual in 2007).
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So basically PS4 > Xbox One.
Round 4 and up please... been waiting for so long.. :(
This was surprisingly, extremely in-depth!
Where is round 4?
Wow Xbone got it's ass kicked badly here
and everywhere else.
That's not true because you need to base this off of real time not in slow motion because i know that no one can see these slight graphical differences without slow motion. And it really doesn't matter much cause Xbox has always shown to improve as the years go on. You can say that they don't like having the jump start.
Has anyone wondered what would happened if a sony, ms, pc, and Nintendo fanboy were in the same room locked up for a hour
Da_BEAST_3232 someone needs to try that out. But put cameras in the room first
Yes, they would try grabbing the controller away from the PS4 player because they know the other consoles suck.
lol first one to get beat up and loose is the Nintendo fanboy😂
LOL! True!
Anthony Datuin the Xbox Fanboy would get beat up by the PlayStation and the PC fan and after it was over the PlayStation fan and the PC fan would shake hands and make peace.
Thanks for the info guys putting all that in one video isn't easy .. Good job guys and keep going
The biggest reason why I watch this is because I learn so much but it's also interesting. Please keep making these video series!!
So AMD pushed x86 on MS and Sony but pushed PowerPC on Nintendo? Sounds like a conspiracy by AMD to kill off the Wii U.
How ironic that the Wii U continues to get 1080p 60fps games yet PS4 and Xbox One can't seem the handle that. (I own a PS4. 90% of the games are NOT 60fps).
***** To be fare, Zelda U runs at 1080p and looks better than any Xbox one game lol
Marcuss2 Zelda U hasn't been released yet
Agtsmirnoff But we already got in-engine footage and screenshots (They are 1080p)
United Gaming Community
LOLOLOLOLOL i own a wii u none of the games have 1080p 60fps you liar. I get more than double that on my gaming pc anyways.
I recently saw an Xbox One that my cousin's boyfriend had.......
Apparently, "Xbox" and "off" become bad words if the Xbox is on.....
I use a PS4 so I don't have to deal with a lame Windows PC. It just works.
I get you, i'm a pc gamer, but sometimes its just a pain in the ass.
Me too i game on pc but it's just so complicated like there's no proper menus for battlefield (you have to go to battlelog), uplay is required to play ubisoft games, steam's drm and how many popups come out when you turn on your pc :(
But yeah i'm enjoying both like the ability to mod on pc and the simplicity of ps4 :)
I love consoles, however I love PC gaming, especially when it's custom built. You have pride in yourself.
when i had my ps3, the blu ray drive went out on it 3x, each time i sent it back it took them almost 3 months to fix. so no, they dont "just work" plus if my graphics card went out on my pc, i could send it back and get a working one in a week or less.
lol console peasant
Wow...I'm late to the party. This was excellently executed!
These console wars are done very well. Great job.
Where is round 4 come on guys lol.
Too bad the Xbox One is pretty much getting 1080p on all games coming out this year now... so much for that
There are plenty of other things that can be removed or lowered to allow that change. I wouldn't be too excited until we see what the final products look like. Most claims already fall short especially in the frame rate department on the Xbox one.
Evan Contreras Nope. This is happening due to a recent SDK update that opened up 10% more of GPU power to devs.
TheRealAkimbro We will see soon enough if any of those games live up to the developer comments.
Evan Contreras Yes, we will.
Evan Contreras If so there will be things removed for PS4 games since for non-exclusive game developers/publishers will want to do everything in there power to make games seem as close as possible on both consoles. And on some comparison videos I have seen XO actually looks better but it's a small difference both ways.
See, this is why I buy both systems. So when fanboys say "ps4 is better than xb1" I just say, I have them both.... BOOM!!!!!! Problem solved........
LOL
HAH this guy made my day.
Yea I'm strictly Xbox also
Not all of us can buy both, moneybags.
Then this vid is strictly for you guys that can't buy both consoles. Buy your favorite or buy the best system built which is the ps4. I don't think you'll go wrong either way.
Amazing vid, so much effort must have gone behind this.
OOOH MAN are we going to wait another 2 months for another round
Still buying an xboxone
It's a great console, I love it, you won't regret it. Although, I still recommend buying a ps4 if you can. They each serve different purposes and I'm glad I got both.
Your stuburn...
I hope you aren't saying that out of fanboyism. Personally, I also plan on getting the Xbox One, but I have done my research in making my decision. I prefer the Xbox One because the exclusives excite me more.
***** i dont care about the graphic just the games.
Isnt directx12 gonna make the Xbox one like 2x better?
No.
Zaryab B It just boosted its performance now. Now it could do 60 fps and 1080p. Microsoft is heading into the right direction. Im going to buy an xbox one
Frexcy I'm getting mine on the 18th because i like halo.
Brud Greoning me too
I have a pc. I'm probably being a tard but i don't think i'll notice the 900p from 5 feet away.
I had a PS3 and xbox 360. The PS3 was better than the Xbox. PS4 is better than Xbox One
Where is round 4?
5+ months already
finally round 3 is here
Why are you still making these videos? Ps4 obviously won
Like might as well tell microsoft they fucked up xD
Brandon H Nguyen But my pc when just shit on your puny little console.
Lmaooooo
it's out of 10 rounds and it's only 3-1. Simmer down, it's not over.
Words of an Xbox fanboy with his hope of the Xbone winning the war dwindling down
xbox fans u guys have to live with it ps4 is just much better than xbox one
Microsoft made sadly enough the Xbox one a Family Netflix thingy console....
+taniya perry i.ytimg.com/vi/19VTriLebu8/maxresdefault.jpg
No!!!!!Xbox is better!(I am not a kid)
Yeah true
+Radek Trpisovsky I'm with you bro.
I'm getting PS4 this New Year and swapping its HDD with 256GB SSD for super smooth, fast experience because i use PC as my main Gaming machine so need that feel :-D
Unfortunately it won't work as well. The PS4 is limited to SATAII. Digital Foundry has already done tests on this and the difference in loading times and what not is not worth the loss of storage and the increase in price. Get a 7200 RPM, 64mb cache 1 TB drive and call it a day.
Get a hybrid drive (mix of some ssd with HDD and still big size of HDD) or a regular but much faster 7200 rpm drive
joyR I think this would be better idea then mine.. Coz i want faster load times so need to get something or another..
Thanks man..
Rushaoz SATA2...Hmmm, i think i have to look up Digital Foundry for that..Thanks....
you wont get a lot of difference. maybe 1-5 seconds faster. most probably below than 5 sec difference.
Fantastic video. This guy knows his stuff. My only issue is that it'll be months before I find out what his feedback on the Wii U is.
great video and excellent commentary! def will sub! creepin up to that million good shit
*Console Wars: Xbox One Vs. PlayStation 4* - Processors (Round 3)
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This technobuffalo reviewer is obviously a Sony-pony fan boy! He failed to mention the Xbox One's four DMA (Direct Memory Access) or data-move engine units! The Xbox One's custom built sound processor! And the fact that the Xbox One will have an immediate advantage when cloud computing (online multiplayer servers & processors) and finally in it's CPU with DX12 & Tile Resources that will leave the PS4 to old game engines and last generation's graphics design standards.
***** Single platform peseant
***** Cloud computing is excuse to have weaker hardware and always-on DRM, DMA does not help with slow DDR3 memory, DX12 just allows better access to hardware by developers (Already possible on consoles) and PS4 contains background processor to downloading
@Marcuss2- Uhh...cloud computing has been around before you were born! Microsoft's DX12 won't be available until 2015! The Esram & DDR3 along with the DMA engines help the overall graphics processing and ease up some of the bandwidth hogging that both the CPU & GPU put on these next-Gen console's main memory(ddr3 in xb1 & gddr5 in ps4) bandwidth! And Sony's PS4 doesn't have any processors that work to download content in the background! And I'll put my wager in this generation's console war on the inventor of DirectX & Direct3D!
You just stated the Xbox One's DDR3 RAM aids the Xbox One's DDR3 RAM. The PS4 can preform download operations in the background, and Sony will soon have Gaikai implemented.
Let's get one thing straight. I've never had an Xbox. The only consoles I've ever had are Nintendo 64 and PS3. I've got tons of games for my PS3. But honestly, I use the PS3 mostly for other purposes, like TH-cam, netflix and Spotify. And with PS4, I can't see what all the hype is about. How is it in any way a next-gen console compared to PS3? It's simply an upgraded version of PS3. Heck, simply calling it PS3.1 would make more sense. I tried PS4 at the store, and switching between apps and games are just as slow as they used to be. Which is bad!
Then I see all the PS fanboys bashing on Xbox One. I don't even understand why. Why bother if you were never going to buy it in the first place. If anything Xbox users should've been the ones complaining. yet i see none of those. Let's be honest, if you really cared about the graphics so much, you'd rather buy a gaming PC. And a lot of those people saying they got the PS4 because the graphics are better, don't really use a TV that would let you see the difference as much.
Isn't the actual gameplay more important than pointless graphics? And putting all the effort into all these graphics would only make it more time consuming to develop games, and in turn makes the consumer wait longer for the next game, and also pay more. Let's admit it, the cost on games has only increased, and I’d say it's already pretty darn expensive as it is today.
Unless you're doing a side-by-side comparison and sitting 1 meter away from the TV, you won't really be able to see any difference between PS4 and Xbox One. I'm complaining about PS4 because I own a PS3, and to me the ps4 isn't providing what I was missing on PS3. I couldn't care any less about the graphics. I care more about the gameplay itself and being able to switch between apps and games fast. Which is why, to me, Xbox One seems more like a Next-gen console compared to PS4. Because, if I really cared about the Graphics, I'd rather buy a PC. I bought the console for the convenience. And to me, browsing through netflix without having to reach out for my dualshock, seems way more convenient.
In my poinion: Games like Beyond: Two Souls, are extremely beautiful. But games like Just cause 2 are far more enjoyable. Because gameplay itself is more important than the graphics.
I enjoyed the PS Eye/Move games alot, and wished there were more of those. Which is why seeing people in comments section saying silly things like, a true gamer doesn't care about Kinect or PS Eye/Move, is extremely infuriating. No matter how much better graphics get. The gaming experience one gets from Playing Killzone 3 on a 3D TV with PS Move with move Sharp shooter is way way better. Instead of complaing about how Sony didn't do much improvements on PS Eye, you see Playstation fanboys making a big fuzz about Xbox One and Kinect. Which makes no sense at all. Shouldn't you want to make your console get better instead of ridiculing the competition?
Kevin Varughese I'm not going to bash you over selecting the Xbox One for entertainment system. Now, you cannot agree that the Playstation is superior than Xbox in gaming. Game consoles are made for gaming, if you wanted a entertainment system like switching channels; mind as well buy a dvr. Its cheaper. Playstation 4 is meant for gaming.
Kevin Varughese I'm not going to bash you over selecting the Xbox One for entertainment system. Now, you cannot agree that the Playstation is superior than Xbox in gaming. Game consoles are made for gaming, if you wanted a entertainment system like switching channels; mind as well buy a dvr. Its cheaper. Playstation 4 is meant for gaming.
Reynaldo Estrada Xbox One is just as much of a gaming console as PS4 is. Only thing PS4 has got over Xbox One is slightly better graphics. And that too on paper. It would take years before we would actually get to see any significant difference in grahics. Even then, the games would be cheaper on Xbox One.
Bashing me or not is of no essense here. You're bashing Xbox One just like a PS4 fanboy would do. a DVR? Seriously? So what's PS4? an over-priced low-end gaming PC? I wouldn't say it is, but by your logic, it would have to be.
+Kevin Varughese My son, you cannot say graphics don't matter. They do matter! And that's what LP (the guy in this video) was saying. There is a significant difference once you get to larger T.V's. I'm that much of a fan, rather I'm a fanboy of Logic. The mostly reasonable console is Playstation either way you put it. You're a kid for not paying attention to this video. What are you trying to prove? I see that you're getting a console not just for the gaming but for T.V and other Aps. If you're trying to get the best console for gaming, the Playstation is the console you're looking for. According to Techno buffalo, the Playstation controller beats the Xbox controller. You can't say that "Playstation only beats Xbox by graphics.". You can't say all apples are red because some day some one will show you a green apple and you'll feel ridiculously stupid like now.
Reynaldo Estrada I can't recall that technobuffalo said that the controller was better on PS4. A fanboy of logic? You mean the sort of logic where you said a DVR was better than Xbox One?
Never did I say Graphics didn't matter. See what I mean with fanboys needing to lie about stuff?
Most people sit 3+ meters away from the TV. Plenty of people, if not most, would be using a mediocre TV to play with.
And yet again, I'm saying that there's more to gaming than just graphics. And in this video, they were taking about graphics. How can anyone not see the value in spliting screen to run an app alongside the game?
Xbox is hands-down the better console for multi-tasking. Do people really not see the value in that itself?
The only thing people have been complaining about was that graphics were better on PS4 compared with Xbox One. So I guess I don't really need to feel stupid.
I never said graphics wasn't important. Only that there was too much focus on Graphics alone. 4k won't even be common for another couple years. So basically what PS4 fanboys are doing, is brainwashing everyone into believing that this is a huge deal breaker for everyone, which is not really true.
Tell me, if I put a high-end gaming PC in front of my TV, would it be considered Next-Gen compared to PS4? By all PS4 fanboy logic, it would make sense. If so, why not just buy a gaming PC and hook it onto your TV? PC games are in fact cheaper than Console versions. And you get way better Graphics on a Gaming PC. In addition to that, you get all sort of Mods and other content for the PC. For the same price you pay for a PS4, you get a better gaming PC. And way more Indie games on a PC... So, why the heck by PS4 or Xbox One then? Especially if Graphics was all that mattered?!
There could be 2 answers to that question.
#1: You're simply an Idiot.
#2: Or you know that there's more to a gaming console than just graphics. And you value this.
0:36 makes this entire 'console war' (and all the others as well) OBSOLETE, because after 25 years of controllers, mushrooms, and graphic processors this is still the size of it. It doesn't matter how significantly powerful the PS4 is over the XboxOne, sucky games in 1080p running above 30fps will still suck. Games usually decide the winner of the console gen as they ALWAYS have.
So Sony wins by default? because they have 3-4 times more internal studios,... that spit out more exclusives (sometimes in a week) than at least 360 had in a year for the last 3-4 years
brscic
Not that any of those games combined can even come close to the success of Halo alone...
Okay? we are still early in this console war? like it or not PS4 is kicking xbox one's ass. plus everybody knows PlayStation has the best exclusives i played all exclusives last generation for both consoles and i can safely say ps exclusives are better.
TheCrazeturk Combined? Gran Turismo alone is far bigger franchise than Halo
brscic it's too early to call by simply going off of what happened last generation. Perhaps MS will invest into more first party studios or make their current ones bigger or pull the old MS stunt and go with 3rd party exclusives such as crytek with ryse. Again, too early to call on games.
Nice video, such a great series and great that you are adding the Wii U from Nintendo in the mix next round!
Where is the next episode!!!
Pc gamers are starting to get of my nerves, they come to a console video and then start saying about how pc is better, if people cared they would be on a video about console's vs PC's.
I have a top computer that runs every game that I have/want on the top graphics but I still prefer my PS4 for gaming: Easier, more relaxing and I find it a more enjoyable experience. But that's just my opinion...
i didn't realize PS4 was that much more powerful then Xbox one.
WOW - Nice statement - Doesn't that tell you something?
I wanted a Xbox one in 2013 but I got a PS4 cuz my step dad told me it was more powerful
There is no comparison. Xbox one just plain sucks. I dont know why they put that garbage in their console.
Yup the main drawback of xbox one is that it uses gddr3 memory which is old gen memory type .. Where as ps4 uses gddr5 and has 1.8 t flops of gpu power same as a gtx 1050 non ti model which in result makes the game look better with more stable fps at higher res than xb1
Sorry to all xbox fans
But the xbox one looks like a cd player from the nintys
But my first electronic was that kind of dvd player so I don't really care I love the design. I kept the dvd player tho
Thanks very much TechnoBuffalo. Your comparison videos helped me in deciding to buy my first ever console. I was always a PC gamer but now after watching your videos have decided to buy a console. Thanks again !!!
The effort that goes into making these consoles are amazing. From trying to make those things powerful, but also affordable, the logistics of it all, and also trying to keep up with competitors via rumors or planted moles. I definitely respect both Microsoft and Sony.
To all the XBOX ONE fans the PS4 is more powerful by 50% get over it and play the games you like you know the way it should be.
96 I bet you didn't even get this video I bet you don't even know what a APU is or what clocking speed is or what RAM is and it is 50% more powerful xbox one fanboy
you are a fool i cant even describe what a fool you are i am a pc gamer !
Gino K. btw i have an apu in my system i am just i am more tech savy than you and not an x1 fanboy i just state facts its a fact this is incorrect ps4 being 50% more powerfull while it is more powerfulll the difference in gpu's is not that big if you acctually think about it not the way this guy in the video is hes wrong
96donov
if you are a tech savvy pc gamer why do you have an APU!!!!!!!! you have to have a separate graphics card for good performance.
an apu is for people that don't play games on there pc, but you still need it for other simple graphics processing.
96donov
and if you actually knew anything about computers you would know he ( LP the guy from the video) is right.
I'm disappointed in both. When the x360 and ps3 they weren't maxed out from the start of. It took a few years before games reached the limit of what the console could do. Now they reached the limit from the start of. And these consoles are supposed to stay relevant for even longer than the last gen? If so we'll be having graphics from 2011 in 2021. And sure graphics aren't everything, but there will also be new gameplay mechanics and physics and features that simply won't be able to run on any of these consoles. I mean these consoles are struggling to keep a demanding game at 1080p! That should be piece of cake.
That's because HD gaming was pretty new at the of the release of those systems, and a lot of developers had to master it to get their games to look really good. Now HD gaming is the standard and many PCs have had PS4 and Xbone specs for years, so it is easier for games to push the systems from launch. Now if the systems were pushing a resolution higher than 1080p then that might be a different story.
Sure on consoles yeah but not on pc and games on consoles looked just as good as the pc version so I don't think that's why.
I have to disagree i have a PC and a PS4 and my PC can run games at 1440p at around 70 fps and that looks much, much better than a PS4 or Xbone. I still like the PS4 but it is in no way as good looking as a high end gaming PC.
HAACKER45 I suspect that your PC is worth more than $400...
I just want the best machine for playing solitaire
Hahahah
Lel (any pc)
+ArcanePath360 A table and a deck of cards?
still waiting for round 7
lol kinect am i right. if i could pick my favorite meme from the gaming industry it would be the kinect lol lol lol lol
N64 is GOD.
Agreed. Still my favourite console of all time, followed by NES, Xbox, PS2.
PS4 is such a BEAST! ! ! ! But I'm getting XboxO relatively soon!
If you think ps4 is a beast, then PC gaming will blow your mind.
How...
Its Spree because the ps4 is far weaker compared to the pc.
+josh Subet Yeh, but PC's are far less optimized and full of bugg patches that adds up to an enormous slow. So, if you do not own a GTX 980 SLI setup, you won't crank any game over 1080p on max settings.
rihasanat rofolo lol r u dumb :D
I am waiting for Apple to come with a gaming console
+Sultana Ahmed inb4 1500$ consoles lel
They won't bring out a gaming console bro
Well 2000000 years later.
No Apple gaming console
3:47 what the he’ll going on here 🤣
when is round 4 coming out?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bought a ps3 first then got an xbox. Then the new generation came and I bought a ps4 first then got the xbox one, but every time I buy a game, I get it for xbox unless it's a playstation exclusive. I can't really tell a difference in gameplay, I guess I just prefer xbox. Just feels better for some reason.
weres round 4
Im a pc guy........ But if i would buy a console it would be a Playstation 4, but i dont know why. Is it fanboyism or just because my first console was a playstation 2?
No, it's because you're smart. :)
Gail Turpin-Crosby haha best reply
PS2 & dreamcast are my favorite consoles of all time
It's because your first was a PS2. The PS2 beat the Xbox but the Xbox 360 and Xbox One have beat playstation 3&4
Randy Rogers PS4 DEFINITELY beat Xbox One.
fantastic presentation, subbed =]
4:55 "Things start to get fugly pretty fast" I'm crying
I cannot imagine why people would opt for an Xbox One over a PS4 when you get a much more powerful system (nearly 30-50% powerful in may cases). 90% of the games that are multi-plats run better on the PS4. Hell I just read that Far Cry 3 would be running at 1080P on PS4 and only 900P on the One (FYI, 900P to 1080P is nearly 30% jump in pixels so it is a huge deal). I for one made the 360 my primary console but MS dropped the ball and am a PS covert.
I cannot imagine why people would opt for either console both have weak laptop C.P.U's and last gen G.P.U's the only thing that should be relative is console exclusives.
henrikroxs how am I being naive just stating a fact, sure if you want a weak console that can't handle true next gen games like watchdogs (worse mod) then buy a console, by the way you know you don't have to build your own P.C don't you?
henrikroxs right because you'r going to buy a gaming P.C from hp, no. I was talking about a local shop building on for you or in the case of the UK Overclockers or US someone like Ironside Computers.
you can easily build one your self for a much better price, there are even youtube videos that tell you what the P.C is capable of, what to buy, how to put it together and install everything, some have Amazon wish lists for all the products you need
Windows less superior OS, not for gaming.
Because Xbox one has better games
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