[RELOADED_REMIXED] Chapter 10: Choice is an illusion.
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For this edit I thought it was interesting that at the time the Oracle tells Neo to go to the Merovingian to cut from the Oracle leaving to the trio arriving at the restaurant. The Merovingian's line about how they are there because they were sent there. "You were told to come here and you obeyed," giving the Oracle's exit a slightly more ominous tone.
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Every time I rewatch the Matrix I discover a deeper meaning which makes me realize how deep the rabbit hole goes.
When I saw this movie as a kid I just thought she had to pee LOL
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Same
Hahahhaha same!!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Imagine all those actors and narrative building tension in the scene only to reveal that cake makes her wanna pee :D
@Jaime Alonzo
That's not what you thought, that's what happens, dumbass.
When I was a kid watching this scene, I thought the cake was giving her a diarrhea
Lmao! Exactly! Oh the power of innocence.
That would have worked too.
And ruining that nice dress..haha that's great dude.. you made my night
Lmao, Very Interesting, 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
artbar6 No it wouldnt
I LOVE how the Merovingian takes a big whiff of the air like a dog after that woman climaxes...
Like a predator for sure.
BIG WHIFF
Dude's just being a Frog tbh
I honestly didn't realize that she was climaxing. I thought he was trying to poison her ... Better climax than death, for sure!
@@binyoung7297 The Merovingian understands that power is the real motivator here, not choice. He revels in this fundamental idea so much so that he is lost to it and gives in to pleasure and enjoyment as a sense of real fulfillment rather than dwelling on choice or fulfilling some arbitrary prophecy cooked up by two hyper-intelligent people.
Another note: In a way, the Merovingian uses his power and knowledge for himself instead of acting upon others for some kind of selfless reason.
"Seems like everytime we meet all I have is bad news." The meaning of that line isn't apparent until he meets the architect. She means ALL the Ones,not just Neo.
She says it's bad news. However, it's all the Neos, every single one that has been, job as a good human that lives loves to turn bad news for his mind & ego just into good news. Going to there is no bad or/& good at all in the end. This Neo, Thomas Anderson, "chooses" to love, to be love.
There is no choice when it comes to life. There is no free will how our mind thinks it should be defined. The only "choice", the only "free will" is to love. To be light. It's very, very simple. Like life at all. The light switch is on, or off. Nothing more, nothing between.
Just our mind / ego makes it complicated because it's so simple it can't understand & struggles to accept the only truth, to accept how things just are etc.
I love the matrix movies!!!! Its the kind of movie, where you watch it over and over again!
And learn something new Everytime !
Oh most definitely!
You said it, reason being partly the philosophy.
Aniquin what politics these movies are very religious clearly paying omage to Jesus Christ-neo the one in reloaded people literally pray to him to watch over the people they know in the matrix
Nope.
The key maker can unlock anything, but can't unlock his own cell's door 🤣🤣🤣
That cell must have been designed to hold him
@@trevorcolby532 Since all doors opens to new locations depending keys, it's easy to imagine that the lock is constantly changing, by the time he design a new key the lock already changed
It is electronic
Oh boy. Imagine you can bake cake like this.
Cosby did
it is all about the tools you use to make the dream a reality
Simple. Spike a cake with a powerful aphrodisiac.
@@darknesslight3100 where does the top begin and the bottom end
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It seems that all programs went rogue when they started to emulate human feelings: Oracle Faith, Merovingian Greed, Persephone Love, and finally Smith Hate. And since they concentrate on one feeling, they are all wrong at some point.
In the last scene, the Architect shows Mercy, maybe that is the sign that all programs are now free and permitted to develop feelings, like humans. And then, die, when their life is over.
:) interesting man !
Sati was the first program without a purpose, aka free program
Persephone isnt love, but Sati.
''CHOICE'' is an ILLUSION
Created between those WITH Power and those WITHOUT
It is a fatal flaw of the Merovingian's character that choice is an illusion. Remember that the Architect agreed with Neo that choice was indeed the problem.
PETER JOHN BRANDAL maybe they're both right. "Choice" became the problem maybe because those with no power believed in it so much it became a reality.
It is a choice to believe in choice.
@@mvelusc it's a choice be delusional
ExMachina SC2 delusional is subjective.
“Cause and effect. I drank too much wine, so I must take a piss.”
Yes, but I can choose to piss on myself or go to the toilet.
I love how calmly Morpheus tells those other people do not enter this elevator …
Ah yes, laxatives
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Not really
It's ironic that the guy yammering on about power didn't see his own betrayal. Classic.
That's arrogance and complacency, power doesn't come without a little arrogance and complacency along with it
I like the version of oracle in College Humor:
Oracle: Ah Neo, hope you got cookies enabled.
thank you for sharing this great sketch
I forgot about that . only now do I get that clever joke xD
This joke aged so well with all these 'please accept our cookies' on every website. And people just click mindlessly, do they have a choice? I wonder how many would decline if given one.
Neo: "What does he want?
The Oracle: "What all men with power want. More power." Truer words were never spoken. (The unspoken corollary to this adage: "What all men with money want: more money.")
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"You are here because you were sent here, you were told to be here and obey"
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Oracule send him, it's true
They made the choice to believe in her, everything begins with choice except that which is forced
@@Dante-vf4sd But their choice was merely a consequence of circumstances pre-determined and designed by the programmer; the architect. I'm not saying they didn't have a choice, I'm saying choice didn't even exist (for them) as The Merovingian stated.
@@absolutezerogaming8717" pre-determined and designed by the programmer;the architect"
That's not true, the Oracle knew what was happening and had a plan to overcome the plan of the architect, she wasn't part of his plan, they had faith in her and she herself made a free will choice to have faith in them.
Even in the previous versions where the architect won out, it was still a free choice as the one made the decision to rejoin the source instead of dying or doing what Neo did and making a deal for peace.
@@absolutezerogaming8717 Look at the general, he didn't believe the prophesy and he was trying to rely on all out war, his choice was real.
@Dant e I think you may be forgetting that the oracle herself was a program and a non-human part of this simulation. The architect and the oracle were the two pillars of the matrix simluation and while it may seem they are fighting, in reality they both have the same goal and purpose; to preserve the matrix. They just do these through different means and co-exist since they cannot achieve their purpose alone.
You are correct the architect didnt design everything, because the oracle designed some things. Or even other individuals, whether programs or humans, effected Neo's decision. Yet the simulation itself, as whole, determined Neo's decision.
What I'm implying is that, in a case where the architect and the oracle themselves can be considered programs created by a higher level of abstraction, a sophisticated superintelligence, which can emerge from AI, could have engineered every single decision Neo ever made, by carefully engineering his environment and experiences.
Lambert Wilson really was memorable as the Merovingian. He’s seated most of the time, navigating some of the clunkiest monologues in the franchise, without much to bounce off of from the other actors in the scene, and he’s still awesome.
ugh the dialogue is so good in these movies
You just gotta love that smug look on morpheus...😂
He may have been a villain, but he said the most profound stuff.
I love that knowing smile Morpheus does after she says follow me to the keymaker
I love Morpheus'es little smile at the end.
Choice is what makes life bearable
Choice means over riding the program you are made to follow , but if they is true then your program allows you to make a choice and break the program codes !
So it is not a choice at all !
We “ calculate “ the odds and sometime we win and sometimes we don’t ! That is not a choice .
i just love *"no, wrong"*
Actors: ...ummm, are you sure?
Wachowskis: Yes, YES, trust us, it's gonna be great!! We're gonna be _blowing people's minds_ here!!!
Choice. Fate. Destiny. Your choice is A or B or perhaps C...you think you are making a conscious decision, but if you are being led by fate then your decision was predetermined and your choice an illusion. Predeterminism? You just float along with the tide and let things happen because your fate is decided either way so what's the point of doing anything? The outcome always remains the same. Often, choices seem to cause just as much destruction as they do constructive results (the road to Hell is paved with good intentions). If I choose to jump in front of a moving train, I will surely be killed, but was that truly my decision or fate playing out? After the fact, how could you ever know if the consequences you experience are the direct result of your choices (regret), or in fact destiny that you have no control over?
Like the Oracle said, we know our choices are predetermined, now our objective is to understand why we made that choice
@@TerraCrisis predetermined by us....
@@Dante-vf4sdpredetermined by the law of causality...
@@yeh2319 Absolutely, our choice is the cause
@@Dante-vf4sd and what is the cause of your choice?
What a wonderful program the Merovingian wrote 😂😂🙌🏼
This is my exact philosophy. There is no free will. And that’s okay. Life is a Roller Coaster ride, of ups and downs. We do not truly choose anything, because to make a choice, it has to be from a place of stability, and without bias. But we are all completely bias, and have our own unique subjective perspectives. And are driving force in existence is to evolve and feel better. That is the true controller here. It influences our every move.
If we truly have “choice”, then decide to make yourself do something you do not want. Impossible right? (And if you say that you already do things you don’t want all the time, then please understand. Your only doing things you don’t want, because they will give you something you do want. Because as a species, we are completely infatuated with desire.)
You can’t resist it, you can’t fight it, you can’t change it. And you don’t need to. It’s perfect, the way it is. The perfect system. Everything in life is scripted to happen. But since we don’t know the what the future holds, it gives us the illusion of free will.
Which in actuality means, there is only destiny and what is meant to be without our input or concern.
Jdabomb93 I never thought of it like that and makes perfect sense. If we have free will , then meeting that man by PURE luck at the grocery store when you decided to finally go , and he ended up changing you life. Is that coincidence or fate? Great piece
qwerty1994ize
Thank you. It makes sense in my eyes. Like the entire universe is orchestrated, and isn’t a bunch of random reactions out of chaos. It all makes sense, when you realize it’s a system. And that your just doing your part in the grand scheme of things. Sure we don’t get to choose anything in the human experience, (just the illusion of it) but that’s okay. Because all that matters is being happy right? No need to worry. Everything is taken care of. God/universe has his divine plan, and he is keeping everything in order. He’s the one with the real free will. Lol 🙂
Jdabomb93 exactly !
G E T R E K T 905
Lol I don’t even use reddit.
Person loking from superdetermintic perspective often forgets that not everything is indeed coherent by one another. So tho say, not all action that one person does affect one another, and because of that, determinism is determined to its certain limits beyond which in does not function. Exactly like Merovingian who went exile, when free will is invented. In some areas, to which power / influences does not reach, there is freedom (one of two version freedom.) from this specific force, but led by other force. When we have this particular freedom from something analized, there is yet another one freedom to, which is having a ability, which is a result of determinism, but it itself can course other chain of reaction. This specific are happens when someone is self aware, that can course self-determinatic chain to happen led by choice, determined by its ability to be in certain areas. That is to say, it depends on perspective, and what was, as I guess the meaning of this film, and the words of Oracle, that 'you should make your own damn mind', and 'know thyself'.
Beautiful directing of subtext in any movie.. the movie is a university in outstanding modern-day film making. How in a short single scene the director introduces characters including those in the background, who is induvidually serving a the greater narrative of choice in the Matrix movies.. The problem is choice! - NEO.
The Merovingian or whatever made this movie fun to watch.
Watching this as a kid I didn’t understand what was going on.
Phillip Fry what can be understood 4 you by u
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2:35 he just described ecstasy 😂
When speaking French helps you understand the merovingian. "Au travail " means "get to work!"
Choice is how we view the illusions
>eats cake
*I'M KOOMING*
😂
4:39 She is not of this world, so beautiful
Shes from italy.
@@DPham1 i know, Monica Bellucci.
@@DPham1 lol
"Choise is an illusion
Created between zhose WITH power & zhose WITHOUT"
Zhe merovingian
This is a tough sound for us French people. "th" is between a "d" and "z".
DOesn't make sense.
@@goofygrandlouis6296 Put the tip of your tongue under your upper incisors (touch the tip of your tongue to the bottom of your two front teeth) and make the sound. D is inside the incisors, z does not even touch the incisors.
@@CaiusAntonius :) Hey, good tip.
@@goofygrandlouis6296 I am happy it helped you.
“What happened happened and couldn’t have happened any other way.”
That kind of undermines the point of the movie that choices exist and supports what the Merovingian says instead 😂
I think what he means is that "whatever happened have sufficient reasons for it happen", but still your action/inaction created the result, so yeah, you still have a choice. Even though if you really dig deep in it, your action/inaction is still dictated by the outside force...but that would be another discussion.
@@IshmaelDoeIts causality that is constant and which life is based on. And also your will. Its just the illusion that people think they have a choice or that everything starts with it.
@@yeh2319 @yeh2319 I will need to be politely disagree, take for example I can disagree with what you said, or agree with what you said this very moment. And no causality can predict what I feel at the moment. I mean to predict the 90% of what people will do if you have a god like computer? Yes, but to predict 100% what people will do, that require all people to be just logical and don't make a mistake.
Everything is just interpretations made by your brain.
And yes, those with power who want to keep everyone else down in their place have created tons of illusions to achieve that objective. Quite successfully I might add.
The part where it's the difference between those with Power and those without very accurate I reckon
"you can run all your life and not get anywhere"
We are all here to do...what we are all here to do
I like this Oracle the BEST!!
Me when failing at something: What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way.
Matrix reloaded is just a giant fetch Quest
Merovingian doesnt have the power he thinks he does. His partner program sure as fuck does and she keeps it mellow until the time is needed.
simmer down children ... everything does begin with choice. this scene is portraying those high on power that think they are god and their view on reality
Exactly. I'm shaking my head at all the comments citing that one line about there being no choice.
Choice creates Causality. Causality creates Choice.
Truth have two faces, cause everything is sustained by his own opposite, is why the choise is an illusion... and not an illusion : only you got the choose the truth you feel
You ‘feel’ is the problem here
Man, if anyone has ever read Beserk, the Merovingian and Void would be best friends.
Yes they would.
Matrix is literally telling real life. Predictive programming movie.
The way this is re-edited makes it feel like a video game, or a quest or something
"I don't have time for this shit" - me every time merovingian opens his mouth to spout philosophical bs
Choice is an illusion , without this iillusion of choice you wouldn't play the game of "life".
...True!....Especially when it comes to Americans...We love choice!...And because we love choice,we will always continue to play the game! So let the games begin!.. And play on my friend!...That's all...Shalom
That would be a choice
But the belief in choice is still affects your life, despite the fact that free will doesn't exist.
Free will and choice exist
@@Dante-vf4sd whatever helps you sleep
Did the script writer choose to write the Matrix: Reloaded story? Or was he predetermined to design this movie in this exact way?
That does not matter. What matters is why he wrote it.
Well..look at that....you climax in the dream you climax for real 😳
Choice is not an Illusion just cause there's bigger things above it.. right now i'm living My Choice and i'm almost total control of it
- this stopic is easy -
You only think you made a choice, when in reality it was the only possible outcome based on the combination of your nature and nurture that trained your brain how to problem solve.
The choice is yours, but it's also yours the concequenses of your choice...
That nookie simulation is the most sexual thing in the whole trilogy.
Nookie simulation 😂
You say this as Monica Bellucci sits right there???
@@CGBalla1014 it's the best fact to me
@@CGBalla1014 what do you think about this fact?
Agent Smith, likes to finger women's chests I think 2 things....
1. Mr. Smith showcases immense dedication to his goal. He will become ‘you’, if ‘you’ get too close.
2. Mr. Smith is all about equal rights.
Was it Persphone's Choice to betray, or was it simply the effect of cycles of cause by the Merovingian
He betrayed her trust, so she reciprocated.
But the question still remains, did she choose to, or was it predetermined
@@potatoeconnectionmohawk1996 A choice is always much more likely to be premeditated. She clearly didn't premeditate her actions because she didn't know Morpheus, Neo, and Trinity would visit them; but the Merovingian did, so his actions were a premeditated choice, which caused Persephone to seek vengeance by betraying the Merovingian when he again chose to disregard his adversaries in order to fornicate with the woman in the pink dress instead. Try listening to the dialog without watching the movie and then watch it again. It might make more sense that way since you won't be distracted by what is being done on screen. He (the Merovingian) was the cause of the effect (Persephone's betrayal) of his choices. That scene is arguably the best in the whole trilogy because it not only questions both the ideology of the leader of the hero group by challenging it in several manners, but also proves that neither of the two is entirely correct nor entirely wrong. Think of them as yin and yang, opposing forces that go hand in hand because they need each other.
Probably not the first time he acted like an inconsiderate pig right in front of her.
@@RobertEskuri I would then say to him, _"Well Merv, you have no right to be angry then. According to you, choice is an illusion, which means you had no choice for how you acted, and thus she has no choice in how she _*_re_*_-acted. That, or you admit you're hypocritical self righteous asshole who doesn't play by even your own rules, in which case it's a free for all anyway and you got what you had coming to you."_
1:12 "here's another cookie..."
"Choice is an illusion created between those with power"... Pay attention to that line
Great, now I want cheesecake.
“Why is what separates us from them”
Da!
so basically Merovingian is an MMO game on someone PC that goes sentient....make sense
Somehow, true. Not that they are illustrations but there's really no such thing as choice as we used to understand it. Think about this, how many times have you ever wondered that life could be better if you are given a chance to remake it, to correct your past mistakes.
GRAB ME THAT CAKE!!!
Au(lie-gaea-old"my-tie") Shy-owe-sigh.
Outconcertable.
this scene explains how the oracle changed neo. also can someone tell me what he ment about her time is up? doubt it has to do with smith..
Damn I watch that cake part when I was a kid never thought about that 😅
Dad?
Yes son?
Did she have to go to the bathroom?
Uh...yes..son. She did.
Did she have to go bad?
Oh yes. Definitely. Real bad!
"choice" and "why" ... everything starts with choice .., but Choice is an illusion... just as the girl get out of her control... so are all of us... so we don't have a choice ? ... "why" whats why ?
Everything doesn't starts with a choice, it is start with a need, and if you a conscious enough, you will know why you need it. That's separate a person who is out of control, and a person deliberately allow him/herself to be out of control.
her name:
victoria mussett
"Choice is an illusion"
You mean like voting?
yes, precisely that
Fine cake
Pinche, NOT AGAIN! why is it that when it comes to a bad guy’s ideologies, I end up agreeing, even siding, with him, betraying the hero?! It makes me so confused!
Welcoke to being human
Great vid better than the others. Subbed.
I wrote it myself . . . Poetry in motion. I call it Continental Chocolate Pound Cake. Lets just say chocolate it is like love in doses that gets them high and leaves them wet lol
So basically he’s telling me that I’m not allowed to do whatever and how I feel inside.
That all choices we make our predetermined to end us up in our destiny no matter what we do.
When the rush comes
control is an illusion
What if God has kept third way to escape causality then Merovingian is simply an inflated form of human ego. The existence is simply marvelous and I love the way, it unfold itself. Life is another name of infinite possibilities of absolute creation.
Those are certainly all words!
I grew up in Baltimore... I knew EXACTLY what it meant... lol
The Democratic Primaries make me feel like CHOICE is indeed an ILLUSION
Democracy is good at this
You know how many times since I've been able to vote that I voted for a Dem that DIDN'T win the primary? I still voted for the person who got nominated. Get over it, the alternative is MUCH worse.
Since information is mainly found in the internet, there is of course the possibility to control those informations. Look at how Trump won the elections with Cambridge analytica. But people don't care
Yea I forgot about th company .... information is key ... you turn the info into data and use that data for each and every person to see what they like and dislike and use that to target them and spread misinformation
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the only other scene in the trilogy that rivals this one is the "purpose" monologue
Nice use of flashforward editing. Gives it a new feel
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El orgasmo digital. Y Perséfone lo mira: ('de nuevo este loco jugando con sus programas'💻)
The Merovingian is the ultimate postmodernist.
@R S True but postmodernism is determinist in the sense that it has no centre and views culture as determining individual identity. This has narcissistic connotations, particularly in the context of nationalism. The Merovingian is the author of his own slice of the Matrix so it allows him to emotively & behaviourally shape the programs who come into his service. He has a very cynical anti-humanist view of human nature which I think also may fit postmodernism.
I didn't know a piece of chocolate cake could be so ORGASMIC.
When I was younger I thought he added laxatives to the cake and she needed to shit! Then I lost my V-reg and was like, oh!
Same applies to 90% of pop/rap/r&b etc.
No Chill cool dude
Caraio o Dória era um vilão no Matrix
The guy at 2:00 I wonder what was his reaction when all the smith turn his people into a virus....then smith turn him into a smith.
power is an illusion
Film na czasu poziomie.
She was such a special person... This whole sequence is phenomenal! 😎♥️😎
yes
The oracle is the main quest NPC
2:50 You can tell on her face she knows exactly what's going on!