The mothkeepers make this thing, as it starts spawning two moths and sometimes one of them is purple and gives you or closest ally to it an overshield. The same way your grenades do.
Fun fact: if you run ex diris and mothkeeper's wraps, you can get a 2 moths per kill. One arc that attacks and one void moth that gives you and allies an small overshield. If you go a step further and combine this with arc subclass with spark of beacons and brilliance, you can have a build where everything is blind and you have consistent overshield. Just run arc(or harmonic siphon) for orbs and special ammo finisher to get plenty of special. As secondary pre caution run spark of amplified so amplified kills grant 2 orbs. Edit: the harmonic siphon and also spark of amplitude give you an orb on every other kill. If you combine it with reaper every kill will give you an orb
That is very interesting, and I really appreciate the additional insight. I will admit, I forgot about the existence of Mothkeepers... probably because my Hunter has been an auxiliary storage vault for quite some time! 😂🍻
I used this weapon many times, glad to see it got a bit of a buff. Love this weapon for ad clear or getting amplified on a different sub class with it is handy
Hahaha. I don't know if I'm quite at legend status, but it does feel good to be back making weapon reviews. My break from Destiny 2 was enjoyable, but I'm definitely ready to get back into the swing of things on the channel! 😁🍻
It's good to hear you again, Iron. I have been using this exotic with hunter's Mothkeepers and always creates 2 moth on kill. Furthermore, with Arc subclass also jolts, so you can use it for overload champions
@@vectorortiz That's awesome!! For me, as someone who generally plays solo, that chase of the solo flawless is my endgame! I've always had a lot of fun with it. 😂👍
Been using it as my ad clear weapon with a cascade point overflow shotgun as my champion burst and either a rocket launcher or machine gun depending on if I need DPS. Then the titan helm eternal warrior for 30 second damage boost and also freeing up my leg mods for scav and orb pickup survivability. Very fun build.
That does sound like a really nice setup. I've been leery about double special loadouts ever since the ammo drop changes from this past year, but it sounds like you have some good supporting pieces in play to make it work for Ex Diris! 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming not only that but got special finisher as well and a crap load of orb generation. Got basically Wormhusk with the one mod that picks up orbs on class ability use and using that with thrusters and the leg mod that gives health on orb pick up.
Keep in mind, blast radius is better at smaller values for direct impact based grenade launchers. It constrains the damage to the near center of the impact. This is why the Acosmic rolls for direct impact variants were better with smaller blast radii. Also, everyone gonna be laughing until Breach and Clear makes its return some day and this monster is just sitting there waiting for you to run an auto-loading heavy GL with this being used on the down time
I really appreciate you popping in, especially when you're not fully onboard the Destiny train at the moment! It's always great to hear from you, and I hope you've been well! 😁🍻
Thank you very much! I've been doing really good as of late. It definitely was nice to step away from Destiny for a bet, but I'm ready to get back at it! 😁🍻
I used this a lot in PvP when it first came out and it was honestly the hardest thing to use lol. I'm glad you decided to do a vid on the boomer's changes. I had a feeling that they weren't going to be enough to make it worthwhile.
It's definitely a tough weapon to get accustom to! While I did warm up to it a bit over the review process, trying to gauge the drop and lead crossing target during tense combat encounters required some mental gymnastics that I wasn't always able to preform! 😂🍻
It works well with the Mothkeeper gloves for Hunters too and picks up the same behavior. Still not the greatest gun but all that blinding and all that amplification is nice. Won't be my mainstay gun or anything but I'll use it. Arc reserves also makes sense if you also run an arc heavy, that also benefits.
Good to see another video as always. Suggestion: You should check out helldivers 2, Destiny 2 is... not in a good place right now and is only going to get dryer. Meanwhile helldivers 2 is fairly enjoyable, and is mostly missing high quality weapon reviews.
Great to see you too! I do really like Helldivers 2, but I don't think that I'm passionate enough about it to create content on it. I usually play for a few hours on the weekend with some friends, simply for the laughs and comradery. I just don't find myself craving the game, or having the desire to pursue a deeper understanding of it. The thought of making reviews for it's weapons an interesting idea though. It might be tough to structure without solid numbers to work off of, but you do have me thinking about what a Helldivers Weapon Breakdown would look like. 🤔👍
To be fair, run it as arc with mothkeepers and it's actually pretty solid for support even if solo. Them void moths are surprisingly effective. Oh, and the arc moths count as grenades, I use the mothkeepers with my osmosis + AJ Lodbrok, procs max AJ stacks on kill. Just a note.
Ohhh! Some very interesting points there! I didn't consider the implications of the Moths functioning as grenades. That definitely adds a good bit of value and opens more doors for synergy opportunities!
I had a void Hunter build with the matching arms that was so much fun. It's not the hardest hitting, but it puts in work. Also, those moths in PvP would get the occasional cheesy kill
Just solo'd Prophecy with this in a Strand/Mothkeeper build. My not be A++ but it was a nice mix of damage and survivability. Really fun build and fun weapon.
That's awesome! While I'm not well versed in the ways of the Hunter, the direct Mothkeeper's / Diris synergy definitely seems to be the best way to play it! 👍🍻
Hahaha! I really appreciate it man! All in all, it was a pretty decent buff for the weapon. Hopefully you can put it to good use now that it packs a little more of a punch. 👍🍻
Ex Diris is very fun and rather good when paired with Hunter's Mothkeepers exotic for GM content, even before the buff. You end up spreading a lot of jolt and blind, along with the occasional support from Void Overshields. Additionally, you have Gathering Storm as a solid super option for boss damage.
I'll have to give it a shot with Mothkeepers one of these days. It's been a very very long time since I hopped on and played with my Hunter, but it does sound like a very interesting combo to build into!
I like Ex Diris for mainly the fun factor while being a support weapon rather than a DPS weapon, especially for Arc Hunters with Mothkeeper's. There are unfortunately better options for Arc Hunters in general such as Foetracer + Thunderlord or even Crux Termination.
This gun does a respectable amount of damage with Mask of Bakris as well. Mothkeepers still works better but can’t forget the Mask bonus damage if you’re wanting extra damage that way and wanting to use Stasis
the blindign makes it pretty good but needing a kill is kinda iffy, if it blinded normally with catalyst then thatd be OP in crucible, but who knows honestly how this weapon could be built up in the future
I can hear that sevagoth deluxe theme in the background! Ive been thinking of using moth keepers with tornados, clones and this exotic for pure chaos fun! Side note, excited for the next warframe update? Im hyped for inaros's rework! As a styanax main i love styanax but inaros was my first true main!
Indeed you can!! I was hoping some Warframe fans would pick up on that! I am very excited for the incoming update...especially Inaros changes as he used to be one of my favorite frames as well! I know that he's fallen by the wayside over the years, but I'm really hoping the the rework breaths new life into the frame!
I think the weapon's useability is its best feature, I struggle to land grenades with every over GL, but I rarely miss with Ex-Diris, I find it very easy to measure the shots.
I'm glad to hear that this weapon clicks for you! I was a bonified whiff machine when I first picked it up! 😂 While I did warm up to it over the course of the review process, I still don't fully trust myself to gauge the shots consistently during tense combat encounters. If it's working for you though, that's all that really matters! 👍🍻
@@IronworkerGaming I think it's adjusting to the travel time that's the big problem for many people, but my favorate weapon in Remnant 2 has travel time, so I'm used to leading my shots, plus I like the floatyness of the shots and the fact they don't bounce, that's what throws me off with most GL's. I know the weapon isn't incredibly strong, but I played with it for most of Season of the Witch with mothkeepers and it was a very good time. Then again, my favorate exotic from last year was delicate tomb so maybe I'm just strange.
Very understandable! Plus, it's the the strange weapons that keep the game interesting, right!? I've always loved diving into and playing with guns that offer something unique or stray away from the confines of the normalized meta! 👍👍
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video man! I've always felt like my number heavy weapon breakdowns only landed with a niche audience, but that's the content that I like making, so I just keep cranking them out for those who are interested! 😁🍻
brooooo!!! great to hear from you too man! i've been great! i had to get a new IG page though lol. i'll send you a request now my friend. hows the wife?. i proposed back in july, she said yes!@@IronworkerGaming
@@derrick7806 That's awesome and congratulations! Mrs IW is doing great. She's a busy lady but everything's good in our world. It's been quite awhile since I've logged into IG but I'll be sure to accept the request! 👍👍
I'm trying to remember if I actually did a PvP video for the Arc grenades. I know that I had intended to, but I'm not sure if I ever got around to it. 😅👍
Do you happen to know what the cooldown time is? I'm not saying you're wrong, but throughout my time spent with the weapon, I never saw more than one moth on screen. 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming like hands down when i saw it got the buff i went batshit. I remade my moth keeper build and basically created a ingame cult around it its that and stupid fun
I know it's for balance reasons, but when ever we get a human sized version of an alien weapon it's never as potent as when the enemy is weillfing it against us, which kinda breaks the lore meta since we're supposed to be all that.
I don't feel like it's something that would be...but at the same time, with so may facets of the game linked to framerate, it not something that I'd ruled out. 👍👍
For what its worth, projectile weapons (ie glaives, nade launchers, rockets etc.) All benefit from auto aim in the same way that hit scan weapons do. Meaning that within your reticle the projectiles trajectory is lined up with any valid targets automatically by aim assist. The reason it seems so iffy on projectile weapons is because once you pull the trigger aim assist no longer bends the projectile to a target unless that projectile has tracking.
Good to know! I've always been curious as to how exactly the aim assist / targeting was accounted for on projectile based weapons. I appreciate the info!
@@IronworkerGamingyeah no problem! I tried to post a link to a really good article on the subject in a previous comment but I assume your auto mod wasn't a fan of potentially shady links lol😂
@@amoralsupport672 TH-cam does seem to be finicky about links in comments now. I'll see if I can hunt down that article though. It sounds like an interesting read. 👍👍
I've always tried to approach my weapon breakdowns from a "class neutral" perspective and focus on what the gun itself it capable of, that way any player can take that info and apply it however they best see fit. The the more in-depth and class specific interactions, I generally save for build videos. 👍👍
On my chest piece (which I'm assuming you're referring to) I have Tyrian Abyss. It's one of those odd shaders where black/light blue/silver/white are displayed on the wheel, but on some pieces the dominate color ends up being purple. 😂🍻
I greatly appreciate that!! I had to take a big step back from Destiny for quite some time as well, but I think the spark to play is slowly retuning. I hope you're enjoying your break from the game!
I personally like to pair this with Stasis and Mothkeeper Wraps. Use the crystals to maintain high grenade energy. A lot of fun with it. I've not yet used it on Arc since the idea of using Spark of Beacons never felt appealing since the Moth can already blind.
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Let's not forget that this exotic is made more for hunters than the other 2 classes. With the Mothkeepers' Wraps, it's pure made for hunter build.
its barely any better for us hunters.... moth keepers is not that great as of now XD
So basically I wanna run this over any other exotics. Is it really op for end game activity
@xxkhaoticshotsxx6401 It's more of a fun exotic that has potential it hasn't reached yet. The Mothkeepers are great, though in the right hamds
The mothkeepers make this thing, as it starts spawning two moths and sometimes one of them is purple and gives you or closest ally to it an overshield. The same way your grenades do.
double the amount of moths, and some of the moths will give you overshield
@@izanagisburden9465
Best d2 weapon reviewer is back.
You're far too kind!! It does feel good to be back though!
I was just thinking that.... he's back
@@IronworkerGamingi knew something was missing in my life. I feel whole again
@@IronworkerGaming WELCOME BACK MAN! Miss your deep reviews
Ooh, Love the Sevagoth deluxe theme in the background
I was hoping someone would recognize it!! 😁 Its such a great track! 👍🍻
This guy games.
Can't wait to see you do Manticore, love your work!
Thanks a lot man! Manticore is definitely another weapon that I need to take a look at!
Fun fact: if you run ex diris and mothkeeper's wraps, you can get a 2 moths per kill. One arc that attacks and one void moth that gives you and allies an small overshield.
If you go a step further and combine this with arc subclass with spark of beacons and brilliance, you can have a build where everything is blind and you have consistent overshield. Just run arc(or harmonic siphon) for orbs and special ammo finisher to get plenty of special. As secondary pre caution run spark of amplified so amplified kills grant 2 orbs.
Edit: the harmonic siphon and also spark of amplitude give you an orb on every other kill. If you combine it with reaper every kill will give you an orb
That is very interesting, and I really appreciate the additional insight. I will admit, I forgot about the existence of Mothkeepers... probably because my Hunter has been an auxiliary storage vault for quite some time! 😂🍻
@@IronworkerGaming lol i get you. Im trying to get my titan and warlock up to the power level of my hunter by the final shape so i know how you feel
Mothkeepers is really fun on strand hunter with the double grenade aspect too. Gives you 3 charges!
@@amoralsupport672 yep definitely another fun build. Works well with tesseract giving 3 big shots!
Great to have you back :) I've always loved this for a whirling maelstrom build with Mothkeepers
I used this weapon many times, glad to see it got a bit of a buff. Love this weapon for ad clear or getting amplified on a different sub class with it is handy
So glad to have your breakdowns back!
Thanks a lot man! 😁🍻
Glad to see you're back doing some D2 content. Always appreciated the PVE and PVP use and value of gameplay of weapon reviews... 👍
Thank you very much! It was nice to step away from Destiny for a bit, but I'm ready to get back in the groove! 😁🍻
The D2 weapon reviewing legend is back! Glad to see you back and I hope you've been well!
Hahaha. I don't know if I'm quite at legend status, but it does feel good to be back making weapon reviews. My break from Destiny 2 was enjoyable, but I'm definitely ready to get back into the swing of things on the channel! 😁🍻
@@IronworkerGaming You are to me. Your reviews are always good and informative. These subs have all been well-earned
I really appreciate that! 🙏😁
This is my go too weapon. It's freaking amazing for an Arc Titan for that amplification
I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying this one! 👍🍻
Feels good to see your reviews again
I used EX a ton in Feb. def shoots faster than before.
It's good to hear you again, Iron. I have been using this exotic with hunter's Mothkeepers and always creates 2 moth on kill. Furthermore, with Arc subclass also jolts, so you can use it for overload champions
Thanks a lot man! It's great to hear from you too! I hope all has been well in your world! 😁🍻
@@IronworkerGaming can't complain hahaha. I've been trying so many dungeons and lost sectors y solo flawless
@@vectorortiz That's awesome!! For me, as someone who generally plays solo, that chase of the solo flawless is my endgame! I've always had a lot of fun with it. 😂👍
I loved this weapon with Mothkeeper’s and an Arc build! It’s clutch for add clear, and surprisingly good for keeping your fireteam alive!
I may have to pull my Hunter out of retirement and give Ex Diris a go with Mothkeepers!
Dont sleep on strand. Widows silk let's you hold 3 moth cages.
It really changes the exotic! I think you’ll be shocked by how different it is with that combo. You might end up doing a followup video after you do.
The fact that this gun have 69 reload while it don't need reloading makes you think that number was on purpose
Hahaha. It's too perfect to be a coincidence. 😂👍
Been using it as my ad clear weapon with a cascade point overflow shotgun as my champion burst and either a rocket launcher or machine gun depending on if I need DPS. Then the titan helm eternal warrior for 30 second damage boost and also freeing up my leg mods for scav and orb pickup survivability. Very fun build.
That does sound like a really nice setup. I've been leery about double special loadouts ever since the ammo drop changes from this past year, but it sounds like you have some good supporting pieces in play to make it work for Ex Diris! 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming not only that but got special finisher as well and a crap load of orb generation. Got basically Wormhusk with the one mod that picks up orbs on class ability use and using that with thrusters and the leg mod that gives health on orb pick up.
Keep in mind, blast radius is better at smaller values for direct impact based grenade launchers. It constrains the damage to the near center of the impact. This is why the Acosmic rolls for direct impact variants were better with smaller blast radii.
Also, everyone gonna be laughing until Breach and Clear makes its return some day and this monster is just sitting there waiting for you to run an auto-loading heavy GL with this being used on the down time
I never really thought about it in those terms, but it does make sense! 👍👍
Very happy to see you back reviewing d2 weps homey. Kind of been not playing alot but always here for your opinion!
I really appreciate you popping in, especially when you're not fully onboard the Destiny train at the moment! It's always great to hear from you, and I hope you've been well! 😁🍻
THE ONE, THE ONLY…MR. IRONWORKER!!! Welcome back!! I hope you’re doing well!!
Thank you very much! I've been doing really good as of late. It definitely was nice to step away from Destiny for a bet, but I'm ready to get back at it! 😁🍻
Glad to have you back
Thank you very much man! It's good to be back!
6:30 Regarding this, perhaps in the game code EX is written as a heavy gl.
That is very possible! 👍👍
We need an origin perk that has a chance to create a moth on kill or impact.
Honestly, I'm kind of surprised that this isn't a thing already! It would fit perfectly on any Hive themed weapon! 👍👍
I used this a lot in PvP when it first came out and it was honestly the hardest thing to use lol. I'm glad you decided to do a vid on the boomer's changes. I had a feeling that they weren't going to be enough to make it worthwhile.
It's definitely a tough weapon to get accustom to! While I did warm up to it a bit over the review process, trying to gauge the drop and lead crossing target during tense combat encounters required some mental gymnastics that I wasn't always able to preform! 😂🍻
They could’ve just kept it the way it was and made it use primary ammo
It is interesting to think about how things would work out for this weapon if it did run on primary ammo. 👍👍
Honestly the problem is it just doesn't do enough around control if it spawned like 3 months it would be amazing
Absolutely! The more Moths the merrier, as far as I'm concerned! 😂👍
Been using it on my Hunter with Strand... Pretty fun to use since it dropped
It works well with the Mothkeeper gloves for Hunters too and picks up the same behavior. Still not the greatest gun but all that blinding and all that amplification is nice. Won't be my mainstay gun or anything but I'll use it. Arc reserves also makes sense if you also run an arc heavy, that also benefits.
This exotic synergizes perfectly with Mothkeeper's Wraps and this gun is more of a fun gun than competitive gun
havent played in so long, I saw the thumbnail and was like "wtf is that?!?"
If you shoot at your feet with that gun you get maxed out rage.
Sevagoth deluxe theme goes hard dude
It absolutely does!!! 😁😁😁
Good to see another video as always.
Suggestion: You should check out helldivers 2, Destiny 2 is... not in a good place right now and is only going to get dryer. Meanwhile helldivers 2 is fairly enjoyable, and is mostly missing high quality weapon reviews.
Great to see you too! I do really like Helldivers 2, but I don't think that I'm passionate enough about it to create content on it. I usually play for a few hours on the weekend with some friends, simply for the laughs and comradery. I just don't find myself craving the game, or having the desire to pursue a deeper understanding of it. The thought of making reviews for it's weapons an interesting idea though. It might be tough to structure without solid numbers to work off of, but you do have me thinking about what a Helldivers Weapon Breakdown would look like. 🤔👍
Does this grenade launcher remind you of the Punisher Plasma?
To be fair, run it as arc with mothkeepers and it's actually pretty solid for support even if solo. Them void moths are surprisingly effective. Oh, and the arc moths count as grenades, I use the mothkeepers with my osmosis + AJ Lodbrok, procs max AJ stacks on kill. Just a note.
Ohhh! Some very interesting points there! I didn't consider the implications of the Moths functioning as grenades. That definitely adds a good bit of value and opens more doors for synergy opportunities!
I had a void Hunter build with the matching arms that was so much fun. It's not the hardest hitting, but it puts in work. Also, those moths in PvP would get the occasional cheesy kill
I really ought to dust of my Hunter and give Mothkeeprs a try with Ex Diris. It definitely looks like a good time!
I use this on a Threadling warlock build. Let's me get armor charge really fast that's to its bottomless clip
That does sound like a very nice setup! 👍👍
Just solo'd Prophecy with this in a Strand/Mothkeeper build. My not be A++ but it was a nice mix of damage and survivability. Really fun build and fun weapon.
That's awesome! While I'm not well versed in the ways of the Hunter, the direct Mothkeeper's / Diris synergy definitely seems to be the best way to play it! 👍🍻
Bro! You are the GOAT...THE GOOOOOOOAAAAAATTT!!!!! I've loved this weapon for so long,but it's always felt weak.....so thank you IWG✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Hahaha! I really appreciate it man! All in all, it was a pretty decent buff for the weapon. Hopefully you can put it to good use now that it packs a little more of a punch. 👍🍻
Ha! Perfect timing, I literally just started playing again after a month and a half break.
That's awesome! Breaks are definitely a good thing. Stepping away for a bit really helped me put what I truly enjoy about Destiny in perspective!
Ex Diris is very fun and rather good when paired with Hunter's Mothkeepers exotic for GM content, even before the buff. You end up spreading a lot of jolt and blind, along with the occasional support from Void Overshields. Additionally, you have Gathering Storm as a solid super option for boss damage.
I'll have to give it a shot with Mothkeepers one of these days. It's been a very very long time since I hopped on and played with my Hunter, but it does sound like a very interesting combo to build into!
I like Ex Diris for mainly the fun factor while being a support weapon rather than a DPS weapon, especially for Arc Hunters with Mothkeeper's.
There are unfortunately better options for Arc Hunters in general such as Foetracer + Thunderlord or even Crux Termination.
This gun does a respectable amount of damage with Mask of Bakris as well. Mothkeepers still works better but can’t forget the Mask bonus damage if you’re wanting extra damage that way and wanting to use Stasis
25% for 11 seconds in pve, and I think a measly 6% in pvp(Bungie is stupid for how much they nerfed surge damage in pvp on another note…)
Even more damage now with the Gl buff this season
Very true!! 👍👍
i use this with the hunter gauntlets for constant overshields, its pretty nicce
the blindign makes it pretty good but needing a kill is kinda iffy, if it blinded normally with catalyst then thatd be OP in crucible, but who knows honestly how this weapon could be built up in the future
We have missed you !
The break from Destiny was nice, but I certainly missed you all too! 👍👍
Bungie should change the ammo to primary ammo like the fighting loin
I can hear that sevagoth deluxe theme in the background!
Ive been thinking of using moth keepers with tornados, clones and this exotic for pure chaos fun!
Side note, excited for the next warframe update? Im hyped for inaros's rework! As a styanax main i love styanax but inaros was my first true main!
Indeed you can!! I was hoping some Warframe fans would pick up on that! I am very excited for the incoming update...especially Inaros changes as he used to be one of my favorite frames as well! I know that he's fallen by the wayside over the years, but I'm really hoping the the rework breaths new life into the frame!
I think the weapon's useability is its best feature, I struggle to land grenades with every over GL, but I rarely miss with Ex-Diris, I find it very easy to measure the shots.
I'm glad to hear that this weapon clicks for you! I was a bonified whiff machine when I first picked it up! 😂 While I did warm up to it over the course of the review process, I still don't fully trust myself to gauge the shots consistently during tense combat encounters. If it's working for you though, that's all that really matters! 👍🍻
@@IronworkerGaming I think it's adjusting to the travel time that's the big problem for many people, but my favorate weapon in Remnant 2 has travel time, so I'm used to leading my shots, plus I like the floatyness of the shots and the fact they don't bounce, that's what throws me off with most GL's. I know the weapon isn't incredibly strong, but I played with it for most of Season of the Witch with mothkeepers and it was a very good time. Then again, my favorate exotic from last year was delicate tomb so maybe I'm just strange.
Very understandable! Plus, it's the the strange weapons that keep the game interesting, right!? I've always loved diving into and playing with guns that offer something unique or stray away from the confines of the normalized meta! 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming Yes, and the implicit part of my message was that you should definately play Remnant 2 LOL
@@samaron8970 Haha. I have been considering giving Remnant 2 a go!
I bet this is fun currently with the artifact mods. Going to try this
holy shit he's back with d2
Hahaha! I did have a nice long break from the game, but it does feel good to come back to it! 😁👍
As a special GL simp, this gun tickles my tism
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Welcome back🎉
Thank you very much!! 😁🍻
OK yeah how do u not have more subs this was awsome
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video man! I've always felt like my number heavy weapon breakdowns only landed with a niche audience, but that's the content that I like making, so I just keep cranking them out for those who are interested! 😁🍻
chain reaction on the catalyst would fix all this weapon's problems
That would definitely do it for me!! 😁👍
i love this GL, i only use it with the moth gauntlets with the hunter only lol
Derrick!! Great to hear from you man! It's been awesome seeing so many familiar faces pop back in for this video! I hope you've been well! 😁🍻
brooooo!!! great to hear from you too man! i've been great! i had to get a new IG page though lol. i'll send you a request now my friend. hows the wife?. i proposed back in july, she said yes!@@IronworkerGaming
@@derrick7806 That's awesome and congratulations! Mrs IW is doing great. She's a busy lady but everything's good in our world. It's been quite awhile since I've logged into IG but I'll be sure to accept the request! 👍👍
@IronworkerGaming ahhh gotcha ok cool thanks! And THANK YOU, glad you guys are doing well!
Where did your arc grenade pvp testing go? I swear you had one before, I remember finding out then that flux grenades were a 1 hit kill
I'm trying to remember if I actually did a PvP video for the Arc grenades. I know that I had intended to, but I'm not sure if I ever got around to it. 😅👍
Indebted Kindness kind of made this thing obsolete/powercrept unfortunately...
Also good to note that it makes an extra moth with Hunter's Mothkeepers exotic arms.
This moth can be a void over shield one as well i think
Ahhh! I completely forgot about Mothkeepers...that would be quite handy!
They should just make it a primary.
I do think it would see a lot more use if it was! 👍👍
It really needs a velocity buff. Thing fires like a wet noodle. Boomer knights launchers don't shoot like that
3:00 That is FALSE, you can have multiple moths up at the same time its just on a cooldown
Do you happen to know what the cooldown time is? I'm not saying you're wrong, but throughout my time spent with the weapon, I never saw more than one moth on screen. 👍👍
I have 87k kills on it
Cooldown is about ~3 sec
I love this weapon
While I wasn't overly impressed with it at first, it has grown on my over the past week while putting it through it's paces!
Fuckin love this weapon man
My appreciation for the weapon has grown over the course of the review process. 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming like hands down when i saw it got the buff i went batshit. I remade my moth keeper build and basically created a ingame cult around it its that and stupid fun
10:52 how the hell did you jump so high?!
Extra hops from being Amplified. 😁👍
I think the reload speed is just there for a meme considering the numbers.
Haha! You could be right! 😂🍻
I know it's for balance reasons, but when ever we get a human sized version of an alien weapon it's never as potent as when the enemy is weillfing it against us, which kinda breaks the lore meta since we're supposed to be all that.
I definitely understand where your coming from. "Our version" does normally tend to feel like the lesser version. 😅👍
Maybe the damage discrepancy is linked to framerate?
I don't feel like it's something that would be...but at the same time, with so may facets of the game linked to framerate, it not something that I'd ruled out. 👍👍
Bungie dont hear ... No one like Spezial ammo Weapos at Seasonpass ...this is why to many guys ignore this next Season
For what its worth, projectile weapons (ie glaives, nade launchers, rockets etc.) All benefit from auto aim in the same way that hit scan weapons do.
Meaning that within your reticle the projectiles trajectory is lined up with any valid targets automatically by aim assist. The reason it seems so iffy on projectile weapons is because once you pull the trigger aim assist no longer bends the projectile to a target unless that projectile has tracking.
Good to know! I've always been curious as to how exactly the aim assist / targeting was accounted for on projectile based weapons. I appreciate the info!
@@IronworkerGamingyeah no problem! I tried to post a link to a really good article on the subject in a previous comment but I assume your auto mod wasn't a fan of potentially shady links lol😂
@@amoralsupport672 TH-cam does seem to be finicky about links in comments now. I'll see if I can hunt down that article though. It sounds like an interesting read. 👍👍
Strand Hunter with Mothkeeper's Wraps and Widow's Silk make this an add-clearing beast. For PvP, while I'm not the best, I think is utter shite.
ok honeset question why not test this whole video on hunter with mothkeepers?
I've always tried to approach my weapon breakdowns from a "class neutral" perspective and focus on what the gun itself it capable of, that way any player can take that info and apply it however they best see fit. The the more in-depth and class specific interactions, I generally save for build videos. 👍👍
What shader are you using?
On my chest piece (which I'm assuming you're referring to) I have Tyrian Abyss. It's one of those odd shaders where black/light blue/silver/white are displayed on the wheel, but on some pieces the dominate color ends up being purple. 😂🍻
@@IronworkerGaming Thank you. Gotta love Destiny Shaders! lol
I was hoping it would get a small pvp buff its ok i do like gls tho
The fact the gun can only spawn one moth makes it useless in basically every game mode
Ex Diris reload speed is an inside adult joke
😂😂😂
thx iron
You're very welcome, and thank you for checking out the video! 😁🍻
it still sucks tho, i love the gun but my lord it sucks
Man I’ve missed watching your videos. Haven’t played since the second week of July but I watched the full vid for ya. 🫡
I greatly appreciate that!! I had to take a big step back from Destiny for quite some time as well, but I think the spark to play is slowly retuning. I hope you're enjoying your break from the game!
I personally like to pair this with Stasis and Mothkeeper Wraps. Use the crystals to maintain high grenade energy. A lot of fun with it.
I've not yet used it on Arc since the idea of using Spark of Beacons never felt appealing since the Moth can already blind.