Trickery of Gul'dan also should be named after one of his body parts so we can have someday a card with the effect of "If you hold all 5 different Gul'dan cards on your hand, summon Gul'dan the Forbidden one."
@@TheNoNameCast lmfao the fact that SO MANY PEOPLE are crying about the balance of cards THAT HAVEN'T BEEN RELEASED YET. Like you legit said "why would they print this" when he isn't even printed yet lmfao
"They would never print this!" he exclaims as he witnesses Demon Hunters shuffle his own 9 card hand back into the deck and Rogues drawing 5 cards for 1 mana.
Hannah Briarly since it is a passive hero power, I assume it would work where upon draw, you get a choice of your highest or your lowest cost card, not giving you an extra draw
True, imagine how OP that would be. Seriously though, idk why Hearthstone for so long overestimated the strength of a 1 mana 2/2 weapon so much. It’s very efficient but the powerlevel is confined to such low value. Similar with 1 mana 2/2 minions or the 1 mana 1/4
@@Icetea-2000 That's because of powercreep, there was a 1 mana 2/2 weapon for paladin back in the day that had battlecry deal 5 dmage to your hero and people unironically give it 5 stars because the powerlevel was so low back then
@@lettucebob7395 That’s not accurate, Bloodclaw was severely overestimated. It was actually a 1 star card even back then but people got way too ahead of themselves because it was the first 1 mana 2/2 weapon. But it wasn’t any good even back then, how do you explain this with powercreep? Minions still have the same sort of base stats, with Bloodclaw you will probably end up killing two minions in the early game or assisting your minions to kill one. It’s just not that impactful. Weapon stat math is really weird, but when weapons get low attack they better be really efficient, like lights justice for 1 mana which has 4 durability because its impact is so low. But just adding two attack on that makes it 5 mana, see old assassins blade.
I thought it was obvious. They're wy too weak to be from the official set. I mean just look at Joul'nar Flishflinger, why would you want to replace your hero power to rearrange your deck? That's so weak
Exantius E that would be an insanely strong effect lmao, drawing high cost after high cost is just amazing, and you’d be able to use something like your deck tracker to see what cards you’d draw. Also it would completely counter bomb warrior
Everyone in here is talking about Polkelt, but forget to mention that if any card if shuffled into your deck it'll rearrange the deck randomly. meanwhile the hero power gives players the choice in both the late game and the early game to get a good card and cannot be tampered with.
@@TheTomoyaNagase I'd argue yes, not being able to be countered in any way makes it a million times better, more so considering highlander is not that big of a restriction if you can run Alex and Zephrys, and better stats, I haven't seen yeti since 2016
@@SuperSymn but it is able to be counter there is a card that switches heropowers adn there are other cardsw that give you a new hero power with that you can distroy your opponents heropower. I mean no one would ever bother to do that but that's on the same level as an argument as yours so I guess it even it out.
@@TheTomoyaNagase not true. HP countering cards are too niche and weak to be played as counters, and I don't think it's currently possible in standard. But pokelt can be countered with old shuffle cards and the new disruption cards they introduced like glide. It's way easier to interact with pokelt than a HP, considering that the shuffle cards aren't as niche and are playable on their own (like bombs or albatross).
Lorekeeper Polkelt’s effect can be disrupted by card shuffling effects (like bombs). Whenever a card is shuffled into a deck, the entire deck gets shuffled. That hero power can’t be disrupted, and it has the benefit of providing the choice of the lower cost card so you can have playable turns before you draw your high cost cards.
@@anon.8971 True for it to be a melting remnat class it should be much more broken like "Minions damaged by this receive Burnout 1" or "When you attack give your minions +5/+5 and Burnout 2"
I feel if Leeroy had “If you completed a side quest gain rush, if you completed a quest gain charge”(and made the side west separate to quests for this card) would be better
Honestly, I really don't mind Muradin Bronzebeard that much. Deathwing's downside is that it costs a full turn of mana and discards your hand, but the upside is that it leaves you with a huge 12/12 body. Twisting Nether's downside is that it costs one more mana and doesn't leave you with a body on board, but its upside is that it doesn't discard your hand, and it leaves you with 2 mana to do one more thing. Muradin's upside is that it's a Twisting Nether for one less mana and an attached 5/4, but the downside is that you have to run it in a Highlander deck, which limits the playability of it. Like Trump pointed out, you sometimes play regular Brawl after summoning a throwaway one to three-mana minion to have a chance at winning the Brawl. But if you're doing that, your odds of winning are still low, and most of the time you do that, you spend two cards and an average of 7 mana to achieve a Twisting Nether effect that leaves one of the opponent's minions (I think we should as a community mash those two words together and say "opinions," lol) up on the board, and that could be a big minion. So often times you're also committing a Shield Slam to save yourself in that case. Basically, Brawl almost always requires a second removal card to deal with a board (either in the form of a throwaway minion that wins the Brawl, a Shield Slam or Execute to destroy the winner of the Brawl, or both). Muradin costs a bit more and removes that necessity, but it can also only be played in specific decks where you are limited to only running one of the other good cards that you'd normally want to run two of, and it's also a legendary, so it SHOULD be better than other forms of removal for its cost, and you can only run one of it in your deck no matter what. I do think that increasing the mana cost to 8 or 9 would be a good idea, and while it would still be very powerful, I don't think it would be at all ridiculous to print as Trump suggests. Putting it at 10 mana, though, would just make it a Twisting Nether that also summons a 5/4. And yes, the 5/4 is a good deal for an additional two mana, but how much better than Twisting Nether does it really become at that point, considering it's a legendary card that also comes with the downside of being run only in Highlander decks and that you can only run one of no matter what unlike Twisting Nether? You're never going to run Muradin in a non-Highlander deck at 10 mana; that'd just be a 10-mana Brawl, and you might as well use a throwaway minion at that point to save mana for an additional Shield Slam or Execute in the same turn if needed. Think about the Highlander Reno card. It's definitely powerful; it can clear most or all of an opposing board without impacting your own minions at all (as Muradin would) and leave behind a 4/6 all for 6 mana (even if it doesn't clear everything, it can facilitate great value trades), but nobody complains about it. Reno wouldn't be guaranteed to clear a board, which is the massive upside of Muradin, but it can sure give you a whole bunch of tempo, also unlike Muradin, which only leaves a 5/4 on your side and destroys any other minions you already have. For all of the reasons already stated, I think making Muradin a 9-cost card would be ideal.
Make that a "Battlecry: Cast Brawl. All minions go dormant for 2 turns instead of being destroyed (except one chosen randomly)" Pandaren Brewmaster legendary.
probably true, but how hard is it to complete most quests? uldum ones can be fairly easy (bazaar burglary, corrupt the waters can be done before turn 5, untapped potential usually as well, only problem would be the long quests like the warlock or hunter ones), no idea how long would the un'goro quests take with current cards, but overall, if you decided to run this version of Leeroy, you could usually make it work pretty well and not take too much drawback from the "complete the quest" downside
Probably a bad plan as there would then be no way for your opponent to ruin the res priest's pool. Ideally the opponent should have some sort of counterplay imo.
Muradin Bronzebeard : "That card is WAY too OP !" Let me remind some of Dragonqueen Alexstrasza, that used to give 2 dragon that cost 0 (now 1), most of the dragons being in the 5 or 6 mana cost, or Reno Jackson that basically cast Tree of Life on yourself, Zephrys that always give an answer or a lethal capability ... Regarding the powerlevel of most Highlander specific cards, Muradin don't seems that OP. Overall ... I realy feel like Trump should ask himself "Is my conception of powerlevel correct anymore ?"
@@rickhaavisto9023 is that stronger than a Tree of Life without the drawback of healing your opponent and having a 4/6 in bonus ? Than having around 20/20 of stats for 9 mana, not counting two potential effect ? Than having the perfect answer ? To me it's the same power level.
Kayle Oren it’s much stronger, because it eliminates the threats from your opponent while developing your own board. Dragon queen can’t turn the tide like that, there are a lot of situations where your opponents board is too much to deal with and she just becomes useless. Reno has the same issue. He just buys you time, doing nothing to impact your opponents board. In a game so tempo oriented, being able to wipe your opponents board and developing yourself is insane
Kayle Oren I agree with Mattagor. The only way I can see that would allow you to compare Bronzebeard to any of the highlander cards (except Zephys) is if it Froze your opponent’s minions for two turns or if it made your opponent’s minions dormant...
I mean...comparing Muradin to "Kelidan the Breaker": 7 mana 5/4 vs. 6 mana 3/3 boardclear when no duplicates (which also means no 2 copies of Brawl) vs. boardclear when drawn And Kelidan is nowhere near OP right now... I think putting Muradin to 8 would suffice.
Drawing Kelidan on the turn you need a boardclear is way harder than building a deck with no duplicates though. Like, that's not even comparable. And some decks would just run muradin as a 3rd more expensive brawl and completely ignore the highlander condition anyway.
The condition of having to draw it in order to get the board clear is pretty major. 95% he just destroys one minion. When you factor in plot twist its actually 7 as planning to draw it when you most need it the most ain't a game plan.
Exactly....it's not "Deathwing but it doesn't discard your hand". Deathwing (for one) is a vanilla card so no problem powercreeping it a bit and secondly it gives you a 12/12 for the effect instead of a mere 5/4 and it doesn't require highlander.
Kelidan is waaaaay more difficult to pull off. If you draw him at any turn other than the one you want to clear, then he becomes way weaker. He's only a board clear when you get the perfect draw and if you draw him too soon that chance goes down the drain. He suffers the same problem as Flame Leviathan's "2 damage to all minions when drawn" - that "when drawn" is rarely the right time. Muradin can be held onto for the perfect moment.
There is a huge difference between only drawing highest cost vs being able to choose between lowest and highest, so Trump is proven wrong here, but at same time the custom card is much more powerful due to the choice
@La Nausée i mean if you want the guaranteed effect it requires building your deck around it. If you just wanted a 7 mana 5/4 battlecry brawl i think it is strong but not completely ridiculous especially since warrior is known for having lots of board clears already.
It's really funny seeing this video 4 years later, and seeing the Muradin review, well knowing that almost 4 years later, they printed a card that basically did that effect, but instead of restricting you to have no duplicates, you would just need to excavate twice. Amazing
If I had to create a small minion for a resurrect priest deck I'd draw inspiration from Omega cards. Those cards had bonus effects if you played them at 10 mana. Take the same concept but instead of "on play" effect use a different trigger. So it would be something like: 2 mana 2/3 Walking Tank "while you have 10 mana this minion has +4/+4"
Trump is always way too hard on cards, Regis is always _waaay_ too open to anything. Can anyone volunteer suggestions of other players who do custom card reviews that are more in the middle?
It was always a dream of mine to be rated 1 star on custom cards of the week (i'm 6:13) but i think it's worth noting that it was part of a set of 8 cards - one guldan card for every class that didnt have one and it was probably one of the worst ones :(
Trump said it seemed too weak. One buff it could have without ruining the 6 and 3 theme would be to give it "any secrets drawn have Casts When Drawn." Not sure how that works if you draw 2 of the same secret, and it might buff it a bit too much.
@Nathan Powel... Interesting idea, the casts when drawn... However my understanding of Secrets would tell me that any duplicate drawn would simply fizzle since you can only have one kind of secret at a time.
I just want to say in current-day 2022, that Murodin Bronzebeard pales in comparison to Soul Stealer, the new DK card. Looks like custom cards told the future yet again.
I dont really see how Muradin Bronzebeard is so broken. Godfrey is the same mana cost and does a similar effect. Muradin has one more attack but it requires you to have no duplicates for it to survive so I don’t really see the problem.
You know what, Trump? Controlling your draw IS way too OP but Blizzard has just completely lost their head in terms of the powerlevel of the Scholomance Academy cards. Most of them are completely ludicrous, blatantly powercreeping other cards and just insane, all together. Reminds me somewhat of the time when Ninjakiwi implemented the sabotage-powers into BTD battles, because i am convinced that they did this to ensure that the game finally dies. I think Blizzard is just throwing caution into the wind because they want to make a different cardgame and want to get rid of Hearthstone
@@Arrakiz666 Since when does Blizzard nerf cards "almost immediately" Usually it takes them around 4 months because "it's difficult to do since they also have to make the changes for the mobile version" except for some brawl nerfs where within a day it is suddenly possible to nerf cards instantly
That's not how Amazing Reno works so no, I disagree. Whenever in game it says "ALL other", it means 'only on battlefield', all other cases have it specified.
Muradin closer resembles Lord Godfrey or Keli'dan the Breaker. IDK why he chose deathwing to compare; especially when deathwing isnt even played, so a better deathwing isnt OP. Bottom line: Muradin isnt OP at all, as long as it has the highlander requirement. even tho warrior doesnt really have any highlander cards yet (besides the neutral ones)
Muradin bronzebeard : twisting nether for 7, too OP. 2 years later : Triple blood 5/5 twisting nether + upside+ no deck requirement= > just a good card^^.
I think you just made up the "Blank" Of Gul'dan cycle considering that Skull Of Gul'dan was printed at 5 mana, then had to be nerfed for being absurd. They just happen to line up now.
Not exactly. Muradin can be held in hand until you need him while that warlock legendary has an extremely narrow window of use as a board clear (the turn you draw him). To be used more consistently as a board clear he needs support from other cards, so he isn't really a stand alone board clear + minion like Muradin.
Walking Tank should be a spirit that goes to heaven or something when it dies. Something like it served a purpose and is free to move on. And that also works with the priest theme.
Gone Fishin' should have been something like "You have a 50% chance of drawing an extra card whenever you draw a card" or "You have a 50% chance of drawing an extra card at the start/end of your turn" or something like that
Here a Guldan card that fits the circle of Gul'dan (Shaman > Warlock > Demon Hunter). Origin of Guldan [Shaman] 6 Mana - Draw 3 Cards. Reduce the cost of this card by 1 for each Totem you control.
I don't know maybe it's just me being desensitized from playing wild only for months now but I think Muradin I balanced. If we look back to Witchwood we had a really cool guy that said "7 mana 4/4 cast a better defile" now granted it was in warlock but even in Warrior I think this would be fine especially because you HAVE to go highlander to make this a guaranteed board clear and 1 card wouldn't make Highlander Warrior suddenly be tier 1. Side note: sometimes the board has sticky deathrattles makling him no a full board clear compared to Lord Godfrey which, with a little math could even clear that
Can't believe Trump pooh-poohed the flavor on waxtabber. it's a knife for rogue that's a candle and a pun. In any set with kobolds, that is classic Hearthstone material.
For what it's worth, Fishflinger is a theoretically better version of the card that was revealed- You can choose highest or lowest every turn, which is provides greater flexibility, and start of game effects as a given are faster than battlecrys. Though whether or not this effect is appropriately balanced by the fact that you lose your standard hero power I wouldn't know.
Everyone talking about Muradin but no one talking about the ultimate meme combo deck that would exist if Renogos was added. Have Malygos as your only minion on the board, use Renogos to make them disappear, use Polkelt to put all the Wing Tricks on top of the deck since they cost 10 mana, draw to get 5 Malygos on the board.
Trump: Great, I've just finished recording this week's custom cards video and shipped the footage off to jnzane and now it's time to take a big sip of coffee and go check the hearthstone subreddit
Why would you think a sidequest counts as a quest for Leeroy? Also a 10 mana 5/4 destroy all other minions is pretty weak. Especially with the highlander restriction.
Okay, on the Muradin one- its not that bad. There's Kelidan the Breaker for Plot Twist decks, there's Lord Godfrey for complicated boards (which isn't always a twisting nether, but it doesn't have the "duplicates" bit. Hell, I feel like Reno Jackson is probably better in most scenarios. Not only this, but you COULD Brawl in the past, and play TWO Arcane Tyrants for 5, and that never happened. Zephyrs can also fetch Shadow Word: Ruin. I really, sincerely don't think Muradin is broken.
Why do I feel like the people on CustomHearthstoneCards or whatever it’s called upvote some cards they think are bad just to watch Trump tear them apart?
Special Forces should include the secret pool, they are 1 cost Paladin spells, and the special forces recruit having a secret is easily something that can be given a special model so it's understood by both players.
My Trickery of Gul'dan redesign would be "Spells drawn cost (2) less", so that it wouldn't quite be Skull of Gul'dan, but if you draw 3 spells costing 2 or more it effectively pays for itself in the long run. Seems a little better than a purely secret package, keeps a fragment of the original design's flavor, and synergies with the "all spell" mage that Ashes of Outland was going for.
I think Wing Trick would be fine if it also drew a card. You could clear the board, and then have them draw all of them back to back. It wouldn't be incredible, but might save you a very low percentage of the time. You would never put Renogos in your deck intentionally and would only get it by other means. It not being draw a card tips it in favor of being too good in any deck that can afford to run a 10 mana dragon.
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Trickery of Gul'dan also should be named after one of his body parts so we can have someday a card with the effect of "If you hold all 5 different Gul'dan cards on your hand, summon Gul'dan the Forbidden one."
So you renounce renounce darkness?
the feet of guldan, rogue, draw 3 cards, combo, give each minion rush
"and destroy the enemy Hero"
@@semurobo That should be Gul'dan's battlecry.
it was actually part of a set of 8 cards
www.reddit.com/r/customhearthstone/comments/hcslga/imagine_how_many_cards_he_could_draw_with_his/
"This card is way too OP!"
Next, on Scholomance Academy card reveals...
peerC rewoP
“Surprise, it’s spell burst, the mechanic mage is going to abuse to climb their way to legend rank.”
@@bruh609 dafuq is wrong with you..
@@SMILE53335 A mage raped him when he was a child
trump: they would NEVER print this
blizzard: [print sphere of sapience and lorekeeper polkelt in the same set]
I really wanted him to reveal a scholomance academy card as the trump card of the week
Funny story, he actually did
he won’t do it because all he would do the whole video is shit on blizzard - deservingly so
kyrectx2 who hurt you
Radjon what are you even on about 😂
what even did i say here with my old acc i dont even remember
Trump: 1 star design, they will never print anything like that
Pokelt: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
Tbf Pokelt is ridiculously op and will likely be nerfed, I am a control player and even I scratch my head at why they printed him.
FOR FOUR MANA..... I GET TO FIX ALL OF MY DRAWS
I thought Dr. Boom already did that?
The custom hero power is significantly better. You get the choice of 2 draws every turn. And it can never be disrupted.
@@TheNoNameCast lmfao the fact that SO MANY PEOPLE are crying about the balance of cards THAT HAVEN'T BEEN RELEASED YET. Like you legit said "why would they print this" when he isn't even printed yet lmfao
"They would never print this!" he exclaims as he witnesses Demon Hunters shuffle his own 9 card hand back into the deck and Rogues drawing 5 cards for 1 mana.
Well it turns out Glide is garbage lmao
@@slippinjenny7410 And thank God it is.
@@slippinjenny7410 is it though? It's just that hand of guldan is extremely insane right?
@@daniggez Not rly it barely saw play
I'm not sure the "of Guldan" cycle needs to cost 6 considering Skull of Guldan was originally 5 mana
Hey, Trump was trying to block that out of his memory, don't bring that up to trigger demon hunter PTSD :(
we've all collectively decided that launch demon-hunter never happened
@@Freekymoho Can Demon Hunter just never happen?
@@somerandomgamer8504 Demon what ?
@@Ryo41600 Demon-iste, the French name of warlock, right?
I always think whenever he says "they would never print this" what he usually means is "they SHOULD never print this"
I guess infinite tutoring just needed to cost one more mana.
And not have a highlander restriction
And be fairly stated for the cost
Croutonking65 and not remove heropower
And be a neutral.
@@Croutonking65 the custom card is way better because you'd also have your natural draw for the turn in addition to the hero power
Hannah Briarly since it is a passive hero power, I assume it would work where upon draw, you get a choice of your highest or your lowest cost card, not giving you an extra draw
I’m waiting for the next Custom Card Review, but at the end we learn that it’s just a regular Scholomance review
There is no fair price for such a powerful effect
Blizzard: best I can do is 4 mana chillwind yeti
It took me until Muradin to realize that these are not scholomance card reveals.
wait, a 1 mana 2/2 weapon for rogue? yeah definitely needs a drawback i can't imagine that being printed normally
or god forbid, an upside
True, imagine how OP that would be.
Seriously though, idk why Hearthstone for so long overestimated the strength of a 1 mana 2/2 weapon so much. It’s very efficient but the powerlevel is confined to such low value. Similar with 1 mana 2/2 minions or the 1 mana 1/4
@@Icetea-2000 That's because of powercreep, there was a 1 mana 2/2 weapon for paladin back in the day that had battlecry deal 5 dmage to your hero and people unironically give it 5 stars because the powerlevel was so low back then
@@lettucebob7395 That’s not accurate, Bloodclaw was severely overestimated. It was actually a 1 star card even back then but people got way too ahead of themselves because it was the first 1 mana 2/2 weapon.
But it wasn’t any good even back then, how do you explain this with powercreep? Minions still have the same sort of base stats, with Bloodclaw you will probably end up killing two minions in the early game or assisting your minions to kill one. It’s just not that impactful.
Weapon stat math is really weird, but when weapons get low attack they better be really efficient, like lights justice for 1 mana which has 4 durability because its impact is so low. But just adding two attack on that makes it 5 mana, see old assassins blade.
3:50 the name of the hero power is a rogue card and the effect is a druid card very funny
Indeed, a lot of the review has aged terribly and actually funny and sad at same time how much power creep there has been.. 😅
surprise, muradin is a card now
And it’s bad
@@keromorait’s really not??? It’s run in some of the best decks
@@pandagaming6469 It was when i posted this comment. Excavate had to be buffed MASSIVELY from release
@@keromora ah ok i see mb
You said that the Gul’dan cycle cards have to be 6 and 3, but Skull of Gul’dan used to cost 5.
Which is exactly why it was changed, of course!
True, the two Gul'dan cycles just coincidentally cost the same. Future ones, if they are printed, should be able to cost anything that is balanced.
I thought it was obvious. They're wy too weak to be from the official set. I mean just look at Joul'nar Flishflinger, why would you want to replace your hero power to rearrange your deck? That's so weak
Exantius E that would be an insanely strong effect lmao, drawing high cost after high cost is just amazing, and you’d be able to use something like your deck tracker to see what cards you’d draw. Also it would completely counter bomb warrior
It's a trip coming back to old videos like this and seeing the power level things used to be.
Everyone in here is talking about Polkelt, but forget to mention that if any card if shuffled into your deck it'll rearrange the deck randomly. meanwhile the hero power gives players the choice in both the late game and the early game to get a good card and cannot be tampered with.
That makes the custom card even better, hence why its ridiculously overpowered
but Pokelt is Neutral, has better stats and doesn't have a deck restriction ala highlander so that makes it a million times better again?
@@TheTomoyaNagase I'd argue yes, not being able to be countered in any way makes it a million times better, more so considering highlander is not that big of a restriction if you can run Alex and Zephrys, and better stats, I haven't seen yeti since 2016
@@SuperSymn but it is able to be counter there is a card that switches heropowers adn there are other cardsw that give you a new hero power with that you can distroy your opponents heropower. I mean no one would ever bother to do that but that's on the same level as an argument as yours so I guess it even it out.
@@TheTomoyaNagase not true. HP countering cards are too niche and weak to be played as counters, and I don't think it's currently possible in standard. But pokelt can be countered with old shuffle cards and the new disruption cards they introduced like glide. It's way easier to interact with pokelt than a HP, considering that the shuffle cards aren't as niche and are playable on their own (like bombs or albatross).
they basically printed muradin bronzebeard with the badlands expansion lol!
Muradin seems absolutely fitting for the coming power level. It's not way too op I think
Yeah trump really missed on this one. It would be better to compare the card to Godfrey, a card that can even kill the board through dethrattle.
Lorekeeper Polkelt’s effect can be disrupted by card shuffling effects (like bombs). Whenever a card is shuffled into a deck, the entire deck gets shuffled. That hero power can’t be disrupted, and it has the benefit of providing the choice of the lower cost card so you can have playable turns before you draw your high cost cards.
Ei the first one uses art from Monster Train cool
I didn't even notice
@@blahthebiste7924 i'm pretty sure it's the remnant railspike
@@The_JPhantom yeah it is. How good is Monster Train in your opinion btw? I think its really good
It's not broken enough to be a melting remnant card though.
@@anon.8971 True for it to be a melting remnat class it should be much more broken like "Minions damaged by this receive Burnout 1" or "When you attack give your minions +5/+5 and Burnout 2"
Trump: "balance: 1 star"
Blizzard: It's free reel estate!
Reel?
I feel if Leeroy had “If you completed a side quest gain rush, if you completed a quest gain charge”(and made the side west separate to quests for this card) would be better
Yeah, without sidequests counting towards the effect, I think it would even be pretty balanced.
Honestly, I really don't mind Muradin Bronzebeard that much. Deathwing's downside is that it costs a full turn of mana and discards your hand, but the upside is that it leaves you with a huge 12/12 body. Twisting Nether's downside is that it costs one more mana and doesn't leave you with a body on board, but its upside is that it doesn't discard your hand, and it leaves you with 2 mana to do one more thing. Muradin's upside is that it's a Twisting Nether for one less mana and an attached 5/4, but the downside is that you have to run it in a Highlander deck, which limits the playability of it.
Like Trump pointed out, you sometimes play regular Brawl after summoning a throwaway one to three-mana minion to have a chance at winning the Brawl. But if you're doing that, your odds of winning are still low, and most of the time you do that, you spend two cards and an average of 7 mana to achieve a Twisting Nether effect that leaves one of the opponent's minions (I think we should as a community mash those two words together and say "opinions," lol) up on the board, and that could be a big minion. So often times you're also committing a Shield Slam to save yourself in that case. Basically, Brawl almost always requires a second removal card to deal with a board (either in the form of a throwaway minion that wins the Brawl, a Shield Slam or Execute to destroy the winner of the Brawl, or both). Muradin costs a bit more and removes that necessity, but it can also only be played in specific decks where you are limited to only running one of the other good cards that you'd normally want to run two of, and it's also a legendary, so it SHOULD be better than other forms of removal for its cost, and you can only run one of it in your deck no matter what.
I do think that increasing the mana cost to 8 or 9 would be a good idea, and while it would still be very powerful, I don't think it would be at all ridiculous to print as Trump suggests. Putting it at 10 mana, though, would just make it a Twisting Nether that also summons a 5/4. And yes, the 5/4 is a good deal for an additional two mana, but how much better than Twisting Nether does it really become at that point, considering it's a legendary card that also comes with the downside of being run only in Highlander decks and that you can only run one of no matter what unlike Twisting Nether? You're never going to run Muradin in a non-Highlander deck at 10 mana; that'd just be a 10-mana Brawl, and you might as well use a throwaway minion at that point to save mana for an additional Shield Slam or Execute in the same turn if needed.
Think about the Highlander Reno card. It's definitely powerful; it can clear most or all of an opposing board without impacting your own minions at all (as Muradin would) and leave behind a 4/6 all for 6 mana (even if it doesn't clear everything, it can facilitate great value trades), but nobody complains about it. Reno wouldn't be guaranteed to clear a board, which is the massive upside of Muradin, but it can sure give you a whole bunch of tempo, also unlike Muradin, which only leaves a 5/4 on your side and destroys any other minions you already have. For all of the reasons already stated, I think making Muradin a 9-cost card would be ideal.
Drunken Brawl: Brawl but cards go dormant instead of being destroyed.
Make that a "Battlecry: Cast Brawl. All minions go dormant for 2 turns instead of being destroyed (except one chosen randomly)" Pandaren Brewmaster legendary.
I sure do love frost nova plus
Trump already stated that a mass-dormant effect is very anti-fun and shouldn't be printed
@SuperSymn Trump also stated that infinite tutoring was never going to be printed but here we are
@@exantiuse497 boy do i love the meta that's going to revolve around who uses that card the best
*Sidequests* and *Quests* are two distinct keywords and so won't count for Leeroy, The Adventurer.
probably true, but how hard is it to complete most quests? uldum ones can be fairly easy (bazaar burglary, corrupt the waters can be done before turn 5, untapped potential usually as well, only problem would be the long quests like the warlock or hunter ones), no idea how long would the un'goro quests take with current cards, but overall, if you decided to run this version of Leeroy, you could usually make it work pretty well and not take too much drawback from the "complete the quest" downside
They aren’t questing explorer triggers on side quests too
muradin is literal just kel'dan with a different condition lmao
KTOWNPUNK jr. Yess! Went looking for this comment
Walking Tank could be a legendary or whatever that says "Battlecry: Minions costing less than 5 can't be ressurected this game"
Too op. If it was "cant be ressurected when this is in play" would be better
Or maybe something on the other side. Like "when this card is resurrected gain X ability"
Or "if resurrected summon a copie of this minion"
Probably a bad plan as there would then be no way for your opponent to ruin the res priest's pool. Ideally the opponent should have some sort of counterplay imo.
Would still be a bad design. What about it is preventing minions from resurrecting?
Muradin Bronzebeard : "That card is WAY too OP !"
Let me remind some of Dragonqueen Alexstrasza, that used to give 2 dragon that cost 0 (now 1), most of the dragons being in the 5 or 6 mana cost, or Reno Jackson that basically cast Tree of Life on yourself, Zephrys that always give an answer or a lethal capability ...
Regarding the powerlevel of most Highlander specific cards, Muradin don't seems that OP.
Overall ... I realy feel like Trump should ask himself "Is my conception of powerlevel correct anymore ?"
A 7 Mana Twisting Nether that summons a 5/4...? I’d say that’s pretty strong...
@@rickhaavisto9023 is that stronger than a Tree of Life without the drawback of healing your opponent and having a 4/6 in bonus ? Than having around 20/20 of stats for 9 mana, not counting two potential effect ? Than having the perfect answer ? To me it's the same power level.
Kayle Oren it’s much stronger, because it eliminates the threats from your opponent while developing your own board. Dragon queen can’t turn the tide like that, there are a lot of situations where your opponents board is too much to deal with and she just becomes useless. Reno has the same issue. He just buys you time, doing nothing to impact your opponents board. In a game so tempo oriented, being able to wipe your opponents board and developing yourself is insane
@@mattagor2460 i do admit it's a REALY huge tempo swing
Kayle Oren I agree with Mattagor. The only way I can see that would allow you to compare Bronzebeard to any of the highlander cards (except Zephys) is if it Froze your opponent’s minions for two turns or if it made your opponent’s minions dormant...
I feel the Leeroy card could be "Battlecry: If you completed a quest this turn, gain charge"
And Muradin is now a card, with minimal conditions. Oh and you can play two of them.
1:40 I think a better name would be "Soulless Automaton"
I mean...comparing Muradin to "Kelidan the Breaker":
7 mana 5/4 vs. 6 mana 3/3
boardclear when no duplicates (which also means no 2 copies of Brawl) vs. boardclear when drawn
And Kelidan is nowhere near OP right now...
I think putting Muradin to 8 would suffice.
Drawing Kelidan on the turn you need a boardclear is way harder than building a deck with no duplicates though.
Like, that's not even comparable.
And some decks would just run muradin as a 3rd more expensive brawl and completely ignore the highlander condition anyway.
The condition of having to draw it in order to get the board clear is pretty major. 95% he just destroys one minion. When you factor in plot twist its actually 7 as planning to draw it when you most need it the most ain't a game plan.
Exactly....it's not "Deathwing but it doesn't discard your hand". Deathwing (for one) is a vanilla card so no problem powercreeping it a bit and secondly it gives you a 12/12 for the effect instead of a mere 5/4 and it doesn't require highlander.
Kelidan is waaaaay more difficult to pull off. If you draw him at any turn other than the one you want to clear, then he becomes way weaker. He's only a board clear when you get the perfect draw and if you draw him too soon that chance goes down the drain. He suffers the same problem as Flame Leviathan's "2 damage to all minions when drawn" - that "when drawn" is rarely the right time.
Muradin can be held onto for the perfect moment.
Kelidan almost never fulfills his condition though. Seems like a pretty bad comparison.
Lol watching this now that death knight is out, who have a 1 mana 2/2 weapon with an extra upside
Muradin would be completely alright in the Scholomance meta, I don’t understand what the problem is.
There is a huge difference between only drawing highest cost vs being able to choose between lowest and highest, so Trump is proven wrong here, but at same time the custom card is much more powerful due to the choice
Can't you just compare Muradin to Godfrey. Both are 7 mana and essentially are twisting nether if you set up situation
Kelidan is 6 and requires getting lucky
You can basically slam Muradin on any board and it will clear it
Having no duplicates is a lot easier than setting up Godfrey.
@La Nausée i mean if you want the guaranteed effect it requires building your deck around it. If you just wanted a 7 mana 5/4 battlecry brawl i think it is strong but not completely ridiculous especially since warrior is known for having lots of board clears already.
@@M4li4 Deathrattle or cards like soul of the forest, Godfrey does it better.
Trump roasting that poor guy who designed Aesesh. Damn son. I think the idea behind the card is very cool tho
Who’s aesesh
@@twofacezero257 the 7 mana 4/4 that summons weapons as minions
Gustavo Carneiro ok then that’s lame
It's really funny seeing this video 4 years later, and seeing the Muradin review, well knowing that almost 4 years later, they printed a card that basically did that effect, but instead of restricting you to have no duplicates, you would just need to excavate twice. Amazing
If I had to create a small minion for a resurrect priest deck I'd draw inspiration from Omega cards. Those cards had bonus effects if you played them at 10 mana. Take the same concept but instead of "on play" effect use a different trigger. So it would be something like: 2 mana 2/3 Walking Tank "while you have 10 mana this minion has +4/+4"
Predicted manathirst two years before it actually came out
Trump is always way too hard on cards, Regis is always _waaay_ too open to anything.
Can anyone volunteer suggestions of other players who do custom card reviews that are more in the middle?
it’s not his fault these cards are terrible.
Trump - Giving Warlock healing is dangerous!
Blizzard - Hold my soul fragment.
Wait... Draw your highest or lowest cost card? They definitely wouldn't make that a 2 mana spell for Druid *cough cough*
It was always a dream of mine to be rated 1 star on custom cards of the week (i'm 6:13)
but i think it's worth noting that it was part of a set of 8 cards - one guldan card for every class that didnt have one
and it was probably one of the worst ones :(
Trump said it seemed too weak. One buff it could have without ruining the 6 and 3 theme would be to give it "any secrets drawn have Casts When Drawn." Not sure how that works if you draw 2 of the same secret, and it might buff it a bit too much.
@Nathan Powel...
Interesting idea, the casts when drawn... However my understanding of Secrets would tell me that any duplicate drawn would simply fizzle since you can only have one kind of secret at a time.
I just want to say in current-day 2022, that Murodin Bronzebeard pales in comparison to Soul Stealer, the new DK card. Looks like custom cards told the future yet again.
I dont really see how Muradin Bronzebeard is so broken. Godfrey is the same mana cost and does a similar effect. Muradin has one more attack but it requires you to have no duplicates for it to survive so I don’t really see the problem.
You know what, Trump? Controlling your draw IS way too OP but Blizzard has just completely lost their head in terms of the powerlevel of the Scholomance Academy cards. Most of them are completely ludicrous, blatantly powercreeping other cards and just insane, all together. Reminds me somewhat of the time when Ninjakiwi implemented the sabotage-powers into BTD battles, because i am convinced that they did this to ensure that the game finally dies. I think Blizzard is just throwing caution into the wind because they want to make a different cardgame and want to get rid of Hearthstone
And people are still playing and paying for packs. Doesn't seem like it will stop anytime soon.
Nah. They do this because it creates hype and hype is currency for video games. A lot of these cards will get nerfed almost immediately.
@@Arrakiz666 Since when does Blizzard nerf cards "almost immediately" Usually it takes them around 4 months because "it's difficult to do since they also have to make the changes for the mobile version" except for some brawl nerfs where within a day it is suddenly possible to nerf cards instantly
@@Mr_King96 Since fairly recently, but lately they've been pretty good with nerfs, the nerfs to Galokrond Shaman were lightning fast.
@@Arrakiz666 Ah, good to see that not all traditions are being honoured
2:18 flash forward 2 years and we have soul stealer...
And Badlands Brawler
Pretty sure this could be the title of almost all of these lol.
For Muradin... isn't there literally Ke'lidan the Breaker? And Reno does a good job at clearing boards too.
Rogue now: 2/2 for 1, tradable, upside
4:20 I can t stop laughing
3:00 Only one more attack Than Godfrey that ddoes play Double Defile on the whole board D:
I think Jens had a blast depicting the schadenfreud with this video.
I'm pretty sure with Renogos what is ment with ALL other minions disappear is that that includes minions in Decks and hands
1 that’s not very clear at all 2 that’s a terrible idea and makes the card way worse
That's not how Amazing Reno works so no, I disagree. Whenever in game it says "ALL other", it means 'only on battlefield', all other cases have it specified.
@@twofacezero257 I'm not saying it makes the card better or that it's clear at all, I'm just saying that I think that's how it's supposed to work
@@admiraltonydawning3847 does The Amazing Reno say ALL in capital letters as well?
Cthulwho?!? I’m not saying you are saying that I’m just sayin
Muradin closer resembles Lord Godfrey or Keli'dan the Breaker. IDK why he chose deathwing to compare; especially when deathwing isnt even played, so a better deathwing isnt OP.
Bottom line: Muradin isnt OP at all, as long as it has the highlander requirement. even tho warrior doesnt really have any highlander cards yet (besides the neutral ones)
Muradin bronzebeard : twisting nether for 7, too OP. 2 years later : Triple blood 5/5 twisting nether + upside+ no deck requirement= > just a good card^^.
I think you just made up the "Blank" Of Gul'dan cycle considering that Skull Of Gul'dan was printed at 5 mana, then had to be nerfed for being absurd. They just happen to line up now.
You could tell me this is the new sets reveals and I wouldn't think twice
"There is no prize high enough for infinite tutoring"
Blizzard: 4 take ic or leave it
I feel like there should be a custom card competition for "Make Paladin themed and playable again"
To be fair paladin has always been all over the place like secrets, otk, buff, dragons, murlocs, mechs, divine shield and lifesteal
Indomitable creature is just like the lifesteal spider that never saw play lol
no but a 5 mana "kill one of your own minions and heal for 4, and also damage this minion down to a 4/3" would totally be way way more op, totally.
Muradin is just like that legendary warlock minion that blows up the board of played on the turn you draw him.
Not exactly. Muradin can be held in hand until you need him while that warlock legendary has an extremely narrow window of use as a board clear (the turn you draw him). To be used more consistently as a board clear he needs support from other cards, so he isn't really a stand alone board clear + minion like Muradin.
Waxstabber is totally rogue flavor! Think Toggwaggle.
Walking Tank should be a spirit that goes to heaven or something when it dies. Something like it served a purpose and is free to move on. And that also works with the priest theme.
You would have to make it deathrattle (flavored reno effect) to get it to work.
Gone Fishin' should have been something like "You have a 50% chance of drawing an extra card whenever you draw a card" or "You have a 50% chance of drawing an extra card at the start/end of your turn" or something like that
today on Trump can't read: Trump thinks the words Quest and Sidequest are the same words!
Leeroy would be nuts with shudderwock in wild
I I started watching accepting new scholomance cards. Did a double-take after the first design rating. 😂
Here a Guldan card that fits the circle of Gul'dan (Shaman > Warlock > Demon Hunter).
Origin of Guldan [Shaman] 6 Mana - Draw 3 Cards. Reduce the cost of this card by 1 for each Totem you control.
I don't know maybe it's just me being desensitized from playing wild only for months now but I think Muradin I balanced. If we look back to Witchwood we had a really cool guy that said "7 mana 4/4 cast a better defile" now granted it was in warlock but even in Warrior I think this would be fine especially because you HAVE to go highlander to make this a guaranteed board clear and 1 card wouldn't make Highlander Warrior suddenly be tier 1.
Side note: sometimes the board has sticky deathrattles makling him no a full board clear compared to Lord Godfrey which, with a little math could even clear that
Can't believe Trump pooh-poohed the flavor on waxtabber. it's a knife for rogue that's a candle and a pun. In any set with kobolds, that is classic Hearthstone material.
For what it's worth, Fishflinger is a theoretically better version of the card that was revealed-
You can choose highest or lowest every turn, which is provides greater flexibility, and start of game effects as a given are faster than battlecrys. Though whether or not this effect is appropriately balanced by the fact that you lose your standard hero power I wouldn't know.
Everyone talking about Muradin but no one talking about the ultimate meme combo deck that would exist if Renogos was added.
Have Malygos as your only minion on the board, use Renogos to make them disappear, use Polkelt to put all the Wing Tricks on top of the deck since they cost 10 mana, draw to get 5 Malygos on the board.
Trump: Great, I've just finished recording this week's custom cards video and shipped the footage off to jnzane and now it's time to take a big sip of coffee and go check the hearthstone subreddit
When Leeroy went wild so did I. I think the new Leeroy looks nice.
cant say trump is wrong until we see how strong lorekeeper polkelt is smh
I'm pretty sure with Renogos what is ment with ALL other minions disappear is that that includes minions in decks
Gosh, i am so happy this guy is not in charge of game design team
Muradin is just Lord Godfrey but with a Highlander condition. It's perfectly fine.
Why would you think a sidequest counts as a quest for Leeroy? Also a 10 mana 5/4 destroy all other minions is pretty weak. Especially with the highlander restriction.
Because that is how all the other quest related cards work e.g. Questing Explorer. They also proc off sidequests
I thought gone fishing was going to give you a 50% chance to draw an extra card each turn.
*become Nat*
they will eventually run out of card ideas and they will start printing some weird cards
I like that the leeroy card was made by someone named ChickenTenders
I would love leeroy the adventurer combine that with shudderwock would be insanely fun
Jesus
*Card:* "if your deck has no duplicates..."
*Trump:* DESIGN ONE STAR, BALANCE ONE STAR!
*Me:* AGREED!
I feel like leroy only aplies to real quests and not side quests, which would be pretty cool a aggro quest deck
1:59
My suggestion is a little change in the text
"When you resurrect this minion put 1 (or 2, for balance) copies in your hand instead"
Okay, on the Muradin one- its not that bad. There's Kelidan the Breaker for Plot Twist decks, there's Lord Godfrey for complicated boards (which isn't always a twisting nether, but it doesn't have the "duplicates" bit. Hell, I feel like Reno Jackson is probably better in most scenarios. Not only this, but you COULD Brawl in the past, and play TWO Arcane Tyrants for 5, and that never happened. Zephyrs can also fetch Shadow Word: Ruin. I really, sincerely don't think Muradin is broken.
Could just make a card called like "The Wall" that can't be resurrected because it's a structure and make it a big taunt or something.
Does it play an amazing guitar solo or sing amazing lyrics with two really great voices when summoned?
@@unkraut7774 no but it comes with a 1/1 orange guy with a suit.
9:21 That's basically the concept of Hakkar. And this card is in the game.
And hakar was not the best
renogos is noteven remotely similar to hakkar
@@zenyattattooo3479 But the concept is. Whoever draws the tokens first wins/looses.
Why do I feel like the people on CustomHearthstoneCards or whatever it’s called upvote some cards they think are bad just to watch Trump tear them apart?
Aesesh would likely be in a controlling combo deck, not a centerpiece to it's own deck is what I thought when I saw it admittedly
To be fair, one would assume they wouldnt make hand disruption like they did recently but here we are.
Special Forces should include the secret pool, they are 1 cost Paladin spells, and the special forces recruit having a secret is easily something that can be given a special model so it's understood by both players.
"Gone Fishin" I WOULD NEVER PRINT THIS
Lorekeeper Polkelt exists and is neutral.
the special forces card i'd change it to be "summon 3 silver hand recruits and give them +2/+2" and adjust it's mana cost as necessary.
My Trickery of Gul'dan redesign would be "Spells drawn cost (2) less", so that it wouldn't quite be Skull of Gul'dan, but if you draw 3 spells costing 2 or more it effectively pays for itself in the long run. Seems a little better than a purely secret package, keeps a fragment of the original design's flavor, and synergies with the "all spell" mage that Ashes of Outland was going for.
I think Wing Trick would be fine if it also drew a card. You could clear the board, and then have them draw all of them back to back. It wouldn't be incredible, but might save you a very low percentage of the time. You would never put Renogos in your deck intentionally and would only get it by other means. It not being draw a card tips it in favor of being too good in any deck that can afford to run a 10 mana dragon.
When the first card was shown, and before he started talking about it, my mind was in scholomance mode and I thought waxtabber was a real card.