DID THE CANUCKS LOSE OUT BIG TIME WITH THIS MOVE? (Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz)
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We're going over the trade return that the Vancouver Canucks sent to the Calgary Flames in the Elias Lindholm trade, including Andrei Kuzmenko and Hunter Brzustewicz, and asking whether or not the Canucks lose the trade.
This video is taking place after the 2024 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2024 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) San Jose Sharks, Macklin Celebrini
2nd) Chicago Blackhawks, Artyom Levshunov
3rd) Anaheim Ducks, Beckett Sennecke
4th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Cayden Lindstrom,
5th) Montreal Canadiens, Ivan Demidov
6th) Utah Hockey Club, Tij Iginla
7th) Ottawa Senators, Carter Yakemchuk
8th) Seattle Kraken, Berkly Catton
9th) Calgary Flames, Zayne Parekh
10th) New Jersey Devils, Anton Silayev
11th) San Jose Sharks (from Buffalo Sabres), Sam Dickinson
12th) Minnesota Wild (from Philadelphia Flyers), Zeev Buium
13th) Philadelphia Flyers (from Minnesota Wild), Jett Luchanko
14th) Buffalo Sabres (from Pittsburgh Penguins via San Jose Sharks), Konsta Helenius
15th) Detroit Red Wings, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
16th) St. Louis Blues, Adam Jiricek
17th) Washington Capitals, Terik Parascak
18th) Chicago Blackhawks (from New York Islanders), Sacha Boisvert
19th) Vegas Golden Knights, Trevor Connelly
20th) New York Islanders (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Chicago Blackhawks), Cole Eiserman
21st) Montreal Canadiens (from Los Angeles Kings), Michael Hage
22nd) Nashville Predators, Yegor Surin
23rd) Anaheim Ducks (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Stian Solberg
24th) Utah Hockey Club (from Colorado Avalanche), Cole Beaudoin
25th) Boston Bruins (from Boston Bruins via Detroit Red Wings and Ottawa Senators), Dean Letourneau
26th) Los Angeles Kings (from Winnipeg Jets via Montreal Canadiens), Liam Greentree
27th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Carolina Hurricanes), Marek Vanacker
28th) Calgary Flames (from Vancouver Canucks), Matvei Gridin
29th) Dallas Stars, Emil Hemming
30th) New York Rangers, EJ Emery
31st) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Edmonton Oilers via Anaheim Ducks), Ben Danford
32nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Florida Panthers via Philadelphia Flyers), Sam O'Reilly
This video is also taking place after 2024 NHL Season, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Florida Panthers defeated the Edmonton Oilers in the Finals.
Elias Lindholm was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2013 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2013 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The first round of the draft went as follows:
1st - Colorado Avalanche, Nathan MacKinnon
2nd - Florida Panthers, Aleksander Barkov
3rd - Tampa Bay Lightning, Jonathan Drouin
4th - Nashville Predators, Seth Jones
5th - Carolina Hurricanes, Elias Lindholm
6th - Calgary Flames, Sean Monahan
7th - Edmonton Oilers, Darnell Nurse
8th - Buffalo Sabres, Rasmus Ristolainen
9th - Vancouver Canucks (from New Jersey Devils), Bo Horvat
10th - Dallas Stars, Valeri Nichushkin
11th - Philadelphia flyers, Samuel Morin
12th - Phoenix Coyotes, Max Domi
13th - Winnipeg Jets, Josh Morrissey
14th - Columbus Blue Jackets, Alexander Wennberg
15th - New York Islanders, Ryan Pulock
16th - Buffalo Sabres (from Minnesota Wild), Nikita Zadorov
17th - Ottawa Senators, Curtis Lazar
18th - San Jose Sharks (from Detroit Red Wings), Mirco Mueller
19th - Columbus Blue Jackets (from New York Rangers), Kerby Rychel
20th - Detroit Red Wings (from San Jose Sharks), Anthony Mantha
21st - Toronto Maple Leafs, Frederik Gauthier
22nd - Calgary Flames (from St. Louis Blues), Emile Poirier
23rd - Washington Capitals, Andre Burakovsky
24th - Vancouver Canucks, Hunter Shinkaruk
25th - Montreal Canadiens, Michael McCarron
26th - Anaheim Ducks, Shea Theodore
27th - Columbus Blue Jackets (from Los Angeles Kings), Marko Dano
28th - Calgary Flames (from Pittsburgh Penguins), Morgan Klimchuk
29th - Dallas Stars (from Boston Bruins), Jason Dickinson
30th - Chicago Blackhawks, Ryan Hartman
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Are there still people who thought this was a good trade for the Nucks? (I am a Canucks fan)
Lol, a near 40 goal scorer, a first round pick, and a top prospect
This was a garbage trade from the get go. All of those assets for a rental
Good on the flames, hope it keeps producing for them
This was a swing for the fences move ala Jim Benning. There is no rationalizing that swing for the fences. It was a bold move that didn't pan out cuz clearly they paid way too much for a little more experience in the playoffs. Very expensive rental. They could have traded Kuzy for a lot more than nothing and a bunch of prospects out the door. That was a tribute trade, in memory of Jim Benning. In the end though the Canucks really just traded for a bunch of cap room for a few prospects. Lindy's presence did help in the playoff run so he really did help the young fellows with experiencing winning in the playoffs. The lingering effect of a bad Benning deal really isn't there, so it was kinda a half assed effort at the Jim Benning tribute move we have all come to know of and cringe at, lol. Losing prospects hurts the future, but as everyone knows the future is now for the Canucks. They need to win now.
That near 40 goal scorer had 8 goals in 43 games lol
The extra $5million in flexibility this offseason was the core return we were looking for if we couldn't resign Lindholm.
Win now move yes but that cap flexibility management wanted more. Let's see it play out first
As a Canucks fan, I can tell you the simple facts are that our side of the trade tree is already finished, while Calgary's has barely started. Not only do they get a roster player, but multiple prospects out of this... each of which could have a lengthy career with the Flames and then be traded for a refreshed asset. The haul Calgary got could generate value for them for decades.
This will likely go down as one of the worst deals the Canucks ever made.
Fleeced through and through 🔥
I don't think it's as big a loss as you believe. Moving Kuz, who was a press box regular, saved the Canucks nearly 6 mil in cap space. They would not have been able to make the signings they did if they kept Kuzmenko and he will have his defensive lapses (which is why he was in the press box).
Calgary gave up a first round to save nearly the same amount of cap space when they traded Monahan. Cap space is pretty valuable especially when moving a player that spends more time in the press box that on the ice.
Loosing out on Dylan Guenther much worse
It's a win now and win later scenario. Vancouver wins now as they need Lindholm to get to 2nd round while Calgary wins the future bet as they have decent prospects and players. Also, you can't expect Vancouver rob Calgary twice in a row. Otherwise, no team willing to do business with Vancouver in the future. I will see the 2 trades from last year as a set of trade.
Van definitely lost this trade
If you have to pick a winner and a loser of the trade, i would say Calgary won and Vancouver lost, but i actually still dont mind the trade tbh
Brzustewicz (who wasn't going to sign), jurmo who we didn't want to sign, kuzzy who we wanted to dump, a late late late 1st and a 4th.
In return we received a long rental of lindholm and debrusk for 7 years. I'd still take that deal.
We didn't get Debrusk in that deal. He signed with us as a free agent. Saying that we had the money because Lindholm walked away is nothing.
We signed debrusk with the money we would have been paying kuzzy. If kuzzy is on our cap we don't have the cap space to sign debrusk. Pretty simple
@@coryberg2 That's a super weird way to look at it. What if we signed Debrusk using the money we saved by not resigning Zadorov? What if we got Heinen and Sherwood with the Lindholm money and they both bust with the Canucks? You just can't connect Debrusk to Lindholm like that.
leggs took too much time in Vegas
Long term yes, short term no. Everyone with any critical thinking knows this is how hockey works. When the cup window is open, every team sells assets to win now. Lindholm did his job in being good for the playoffs and wanted 1st line money for 3rd minutes and now boston can deal with that overpayment.