My problem with Paradox DLCs policy is just that I don't know if the games are planned with all the content and then split into dlcs or if the dlcs are created afterwards by people having new ideas and implementing them.
No game is planned for 8-10 years of gameplay. I know people love to rag on Paradox. It's the cool thing to do. The truth however is the DLCs are the way Paradox supports their games for so much longer than most any other studio. They don't plan a game and then cut a bunch of stuff out to use as DLCs later. DLCs are evolutions of the game, continued support and features based on community feedback and how the game evolves over time. Everyone gets the free features which is great and the sale of the DLCs allows them to do that. If they didn't do this then PDX games would be like 95% of the rest, supported for a couple years then a sequel sold instead.
they are going to release a new DLC on the baltic and scandanavia soon a part of me hopes its the last one…but then, they might think of a new DLC in 2023 as well
@@Himmyjewett I honestly think CK3 is a product of its time, coming from someone who indulges in both publisher's games, there's no way Paradox could've thought of this before Activision did and I think everything before CK3 is legitimately just products that are created over-time.
I believe it has become part of the design philosophy. I experienced it with Stellaris. If the vanilla version is good, the additions have a value, all is well. But if Fans get the feeling too much is missing, this will cause trouble. I am unsure about CK3 at the moment, as it should be very good while I would miss some content I like in CK2. I'd didn't get it (yet). With Vic3... I have played Vic2 too little to feel I will like it. So not for me for now. The issues with Imperator Rome still sit in my bones. It is not so bad, but not so great either. It feels like wasted potential as the antique era is actually a great canvas for a grand strategy game. For now I keep playing mostly HoI4 and Stellaris.
@@Gotmog-ij7qw I loved Third Rome because it really felt like the Orthodox factions got so much more to do, you know? Which I loved. Same with Emperor for the HRE, and I generally loved the Rule Britannia too because of the same reasons as Third Rome. Now we need a Giants of the North DLC for the Scandinavian factions ;)
I just bought the game with all 32 dlcs on humble bundle on the cheap. I've been playing all day, and I have absolutely no idea what the hell I'm doing at all. Just clicking stuff.
I would say the dlcs for Eu4 adds so much that we take certain mechanics for granted. They do seem to be overpriced but it's better to have all of them than some of them because of how much it affects playing the game. They may not be flashy but they sure do a lot.
I am extremely new to the game but I already thought this would be the case, thats why I love the idea of their DLC subscription, since it can let you test all dlcs or be used as having all dlcs for a while
@@tim220502 The best thing you can do is to watch other people play. You can do alright by yourself but watching other people fully utilize the game mechanics will improve your game tremendously. You can always play smarter and not harder.
I would have put Dharma higher. When I was a new player, I noticed a reoccurring pop-up that said I could upgrade my trade centres. Dharma is the dlc that actually enables me to do it. Got it for that reason alone.
I bought the Base game and Art of War. But I feel like I am missing some important things. Please correct me if I am wrong but I want the DLC because of the following reasons: 1. Art of War - everyone likes it. 2. Cossacks - allowed you to call in your ally to war with a promise of land. 3. The Right of Man - Great Power actions which allow you to influence nations. Also, tell your AI how to fight in your war. 4. Emperor - allows you to see Hegemony and extra diplomatic features with your subjects. (In Steam, it has Mixed review, which I don't know why). 5. Mandate of Heaven - allows automated diplomacy. There are a lot of DLC, eh... Be funny if I buy them all and EU5 comes out. Any other suggestions?
@@AndysTake Oh, is that $5 a month subscription? I was wondering about that. I know what I want. I do want to give land to friend and call them to war and etc. I bought the game and the DLC 80% off. Maybe just wait for sale again.
Wonderful video! Tier lists are quite popular. Should you do more of them, please use fewer tiers and also ask people to subscribe. You'd be making them a favor cause you make quality content. Cheers!
@@AndysTake I'm not sure, but I saw others with 20-30 items and 4-5 tiers. I guess it causes a little controversy as it forces you to express your opinion. Keep up the good work!
EU4 is so damn hard on normal. I played as Brandenburg and got attacked within the first 8 years for no reason. It was so dumb and that's just on normal mode.
Probably a bit late to help. But. Depending on your chosen path. Common sense (you need it if you want to use parliament, also it is required if you want protestant to be viable) respublica or however it's pronounced (it allows you to use the polish elective monarchy, though I forget if there was a better dlc for this) art of war (more peace deal options and the protestant league, also the ability to declare wars for stuff your subjects want) rights of man (great power mechanics will help a decent amount, and stuff like the option to debase currency and use 100 military power to get 10 legitimacy or 10 Republican tradition will be very helpful to have if they are ever needed), there's probably more I could mention but those in particular I think are at least worth considering
Random New Worlds are my Favorite feature by far, especially if combined with custom nations. So I really dont see that placement of Conquest of Paradise. Sure it doesnt add any core gameplay mechanics that are necesarry, but Id say it adds most replayabilty value out of all DLCs.
I humbly disagree with emperor being better DLC than Art of War ;) if you play anything outside of Europe, Emperor doesn't do anything for you, while art of war affects you whenever you play...
really the DLC's are 350 euro with still fucked up battle system where even if you are 65% ahead of time and vastly outnumber your enemy you still lose and there is not even one DLC that is battle related
My problem with Paradox DLCs policy is just that I don't know if the games are planned with all the content and then split into dlcs or if the dlcs are created afterwards by people having new ideas and implementing them.
No game is planned for 8-10 years of gameplay. I know people love to rag on Paradox. It's the cool thing to do. The truth however is the DLCs are the way Paradox supports their games for so much longer than most any other studio. They don't plan a game and then cut a bunch of stuff out to use as DLCs later. DLCs are evolutions of the game, continued support and features based on community feedback and how the game evolves over time. Everyone gets the free features which is great and the sale of the DLCs allows them to do that. If they didn't do this then PDX games would be like 95% of the rest, supported for a couple years then a sequel sold instead.
@@JohnVanderbeck yea CK 3 disproved that
they are going to release a new DLC on the baltic and scandanavia soon
a part of me hopes its the last one…but then, they might think of a new DLC in 2023 as well
@@Himmyjewett I honestly think CK3 is a product of its time, coming from someone who indulges in both publisher's games, there's no way Paradox could've thought of this before Activision did and I think everything before CK3 is legitimately just products that are created over-time.
I believe it has become part of the design philosophy. I experienced it with Stellaris. If the vanilla version is good, the additions have a value, all is well. But if Fans get the feeling too much is missing, this will cause trouble. I am unsure about CK3 at the moment, as it should be very good while I would miss some content I like in CK2. I'd didn't get it (yet). With Vic3... I have played Vic2 too little to feel I will like it. So not for me for now. The issues with Imperator Rome still sit in my bones. It is not so bad, but not so great either. It feels like wasted potential as the antique era is actually a great canvas for a grand strategy game.
For now I keep playing mostly HoI4 and Stellaris.
I have them all, but it was an enjoyable thing to remember how EU has been developed. Thanks!
Thanks man, and thanks for watching and leaving a comment! Which do you feel has made the most impact on your experience?
@@AndysTake I am Russian, so Third Rome was really interesting for me. But in general Emperor is my favorite too
@@Gotmog-ij7qw I loved Third Rome because it really felt like the Orthodox factions got so much more to do, you know? Which I loved. Same with Emperor for the HRE, and I generally loved the Rule Britannia too because of the same reasons as Third Rome. Now we need a Giants of the North DLC for the Scandinavian factions ;)
@@AndysTake I didn't thought about it, but it's a cool idea. It would be simbolic if it was the last DLC for EU 4.
Hi Mr. White
I just bought the game with all 32 dlcs on humble bundle on the cheap. I've been playing all day, and I have absolutely no idea what the hell I'm doing at all. Just clicking stuff.
A stunning deal! Good luck in finding out everything!
I would say the dlcs for Eu4 adds so much that we take certain mechanics for granted. They do seem to be overpriced but it's better to have all of them than some of them because of how much it affects playing the game. They may not be flashy but they sure do a lot.
I agree, many of the DLCs add so much, and put together the game is so vastly different than when playing without it them :)
I am extremely new to the game but I already thought this would be the case, thats why I love the idea of their DLC subscription, since it can let you test all dlcs or be used as having all dlcs for a while
@@tim220502 Exactly! Have fun learning the game, mate, you have such an amazing journey ahead of you!
@@tim220502 The best thing you can do is to watch other people play. You can do alright by yourself but watching other people fully utilize the game mechanics will improve your game tremendously. You can always play smarter and not harder.
ok but 200€?
Make threats, abdicate, and debase my currency for cash. Rights of Man gets the award for most irresponsible DLC
(I guess after Leviathan)
When you put it like that, Rights of Man sounds more like The Rights of Man to be a total douchebag
@@AndysTake I wish they would call it the Dudes Rock expansion
But how do you deal with the increase corruption from debasing
Not everything you said were a part of the dlc but were a free update
Great list Andy!
Broke: Buying every DLCs.
Woke: Play MP games to play DLCs for free.
Wait the dlc’s unlock in MP?
@@lifeuncovered6188 if someone youre playing with has that DLC, yes.
@@unserkatzenland8884 oh I don’t have friends 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢🥶
@@lifeuncovered6188 just join a random mp, i play with strangers all the time.
enlightened: pirate dlc for free
I really like Leviathan DLC, I think it's a B tier
Glad to hear it! What’s your favourite thing about it?
Monuments and pillaging capitals
Hey, is this still not completely broken? I don't want Florida tribes to be nuclear super powers in 1500.
@@chocolaterain5097 I believe it’s fixed, haven’t had any issues on my recent runs
@@AndysTake Thanks for the reply brother👍. I feel the urge to pick it up on sale. I have been on 130.6 for a year.
Humble Bundle has an ultimate package for everything (Pay at least CA$25.66 for these 33 items). Do you think its worth it for that?
ABSOLUTELY, my friend!
@@AndysTake i want tho buy a dlc that gives the option to ask for help with independence and to become a pirate republic what dlc would you recommend
Does the other paradox games
Which one would you like?
@Donkey Kong ck3
El Dorado and the Art of War is definitely S Tier for me!
Ja Preußen Ideen in 1444 zu spawnen ist das Geilste
Can you add Timestamps
yes i can
@@Nickel_Eye Thanks
@@Stefan_DH you’re welcome
I am at the fence with Leviathan. How good is it now after having been fixed, if it is?
Curious about how Lions of the North will turn out.
I would have put Dharma higher. When I was a new player, I noticed a reoccurring pop-up that said I could upgrade my trade centres. Dharma is the dlc that actually enables me to do it. Got it for that reason alone.
its so lazy that this popup isnt disables without the DLC
me watching this knowing full well the only way im getting them is through the sub
Well thanks for watching anyway, mate ;)
Would have been cool if many of these required elements in the game were added in free for the base game. But oh well, greed is greed
Third Rome looks good, but once I play as Serbia and Russia it kind of loses content for the rest of the world.
Wasn't respublica also DLC who introduced original mechanic for PLC ?
I bought the Base game and Art of War. But I feel like I am missing some important things.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I want the DLC because of the following reasons:
1. Art of War - everyone likes it.
2. Cossacks - allowed you to call in your ally to war with a promise of land.
3. The Right of Man - Great Power actions which allow you to influence nations. Also, tell your AI how to fight in your war.
4. Emperor - allows you to see Hegemony and extra diplomatic features with your subjects. (In Steam, it has Mixed review, which I don't know why).
5. Mandate of Heaven - allows automated diplomacy.
There are a lot of DLC, eh... Be funny if I buy them all and EU5 comes out. Any other suggestions?
They have release a DLC subscription now, I think it would be cheaper to sub to that for a few months if you really wanna check out how things are :)
@@AndysTake Oh, is that $5 a month subscription? I was wondering about that. I know what I want. I do want to give land to friend and call them to war and etc. I bought the game and the DLC 80% off. Maybe just wait for sale again.
Humble Bundle now has the entire EU4 collection available in a £15 bundle for a limited time. May as well buy the lot through that!
@@J4MESOX4D daaaaamn that’s a STEAL
@@J4MESOX4D Is it legit? I just checked them out. Too good to be true.
Didn't they say it is getting increasingly hard to work on eu4? I would think eu 5 probably will come out in 3 years top
This didnt age well
Wonderful video! Tier lists are quite popular. Should you do more of them, please use fewer tiers and also ask people to subscribe. You'd be making them a favor cause you make quality content. Cheers!
Thank you so much, Bazil, that means a lot! :D also why fewer tiers? :)
@@AndysTake I'm not sure, but I saw others with 20-30 items and 4-5 tiers. I guess it causes a little controversy as it forces you to express your opinion. Keep up the good work!
EU4 is so damn hard on normal. I played as Brandenburg and got attacked within the first 8 years for no reason. It was so dumb and that's just on normal mode.
What DLC's are good for Poland/Lithuania?
Probably a bit late to help. But. Depending on your chosen path. Common sense (you need it if you want to use parliament, also it is required if you want protestant to be viable) respublica or however it's pronounced (it allows you to use the polish elective monarchy, though I forget if there was a better dlc for this) art of war (more peace deal options and the protestant league, also the ability to declare wars for stuff your subjects want) rights of man (great power mechanics will help a decent amount, and stuff like the option to debase currency and use 100 military power to get 10 legitimacy or 10 Republican tradition will be very helpful to have if they are ever needed), there's probably more I could mention but those in particular I think are at least worth considering
thank you i`ll buy some off these dlc`S know
my $3 a month subs should do it
Can someone tell me is there any way to get all dlcs for free 😭
No but if you use steam (i use epic games and now I’m pissed) you can get them all for 5 a month
pirate bay
You never use trade capitals????
when you need to pay to be able to do proper peace deals:
Better add origins
Sorry my man, but myself is sailing the seas of cheese.
Time to become a pirate republic
i vote for EU2
Random New Worlds are my Favorite feature by far, especially if combined with custom nations. So I really dont see that placement of Conquest of Paradise. Sure it doesnt add any core gameplay mechanics that are necesarry, but Id say it adds most replayabilty value out of all DLCs.
I humbly disagree with emperor being better DLC than Art of War ;)
if you play anything outside of Europe, Emperor doesn't do anything for you, while art of war affects you whenever you play...
If I'm not mistaken, emperor adds the hegemony mechanic which you want to use regardless
really the DLC's are 350 euro with still fucked up battle system where even if you are 65% ahead of time and vastly outnumber your enemy you still lose and there is not even one DLC that is battle related
skill issue
it takes 3 minutes to pirate all dlc in a legit game
Paradox do Too much dlcs
dlc's are more expensive than the game lmao just pirate them i hate paradox's pricing policy
bruh just pirate the dlc
how
Love Muricas? lol