Can We Pass a Chinese Test?
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LETS APPRECIATE HOW EDITOR SAN KNOWS CHINESE, MUSIC AND LIFE
It may be more than one person though.
@Playergartoon94 Dabs the most cultured language
@@brumm3653 I dont think it is more than one person, we know editor san is a she, and shevhas been with them for a long time ...
@@juana6919 but we don't know if she alone makes all those Chinese, Korean *and* Japanese translations. Maybe, maybe not.
She is just a normal human being with sence of humor and some skills 😅 but she bring so much joy in our lifes
Eddy just has a Taiwanese accent his pronunciation isn’t even bad 😭😭
-15 social credit 😰😱
@@GOATaro_lol
What is the difference between Taiwanese and Chinese? Is Taiwan speaks Cantonese while China uses Mandrin and both are different or it's just the pronunciation and writing -letters and symbols, that are different??
@@tt7762 They r different.
Chinese and Taiwanese both use mandarin but they have different accents while Cantonese is spoken in Hong Kong, Macau, etc
Moreover, Taiwanese and Hong Konger use traditional chinese while Chinese use simplified one.
These are just some rough ideas and hope it helps u
@@rosanne0_033 oh thanks a lot! I was wondering for several years and I've asked my friends majored in Chinese that question and they didn't know the answer since their studies focus only on the language, so thank you!
I want to hear them speak Chinese more often. I am a language nerd, but I can’t be the only one who find it cool.
Lol I agree 😂
@@arishem555 HelloChinese
I'm also a language nerd and I reassure you, you are not the only one.
Yeah I also like it
They have a channel on BiliBili (chinese youtube) where they speak chinese :)
I’m a native Chinese speaker born in southern China. Our accent is more like Taiwanese and Eddy. We also don’t pronounce 医生 as Yi Sheng but simply Yi Sen. Even in our Chinese exams, we are not asked to distinguish between them, while most other provinces in China will. So Eddy’s pronunciation is perfectly fine and can be understood without any issue. I’m quite proud of both my Chinese and English accents, they show where I was born and raised.
Yeah I think there is distinguished difference between southern China accent and northern China accent. Most Malaysia Chinese usually speak like southern China accent or Taiwanese,which we also tend to pronounce the word softly.
Presumably this is spring from the fact that most ancestor of Malaysia's Chinese and Taiwanese came from southern China.
@@user-si6ey2gq4t yeah..... That's why I feel the Malaysian and Taiwanese accents are more similar than we think
Tiannmen square massacre back in 1989 and now uyghur muslim killings and labour camps in xian Jiang region .. how long will Chinese people bow down to the oppressive CCP who have taken away their freedom of speech and kept the Chinese population in a bubble ..
I originally came from Hebei Province and people from Northern China distinguish very clearly from "eng" and "en."
I live around Shanghai. "eng" and "en" are not clearly distinguished in our dialect.
But new generations speaking proper mandarin don't have issue with this in speaking and doing exam.
Them speaking Chinese is honestly the best serotonin boost
Definitely
I feel the same even though I don't understand a single word ! I have an entire playlist of them speaking Chinese that I sometimes play in the background, it puts me in a good mood. 😊
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia omg do you have a link?
I’m so attracted to Eddy’s casual Chinese voice 😍 not the one where he has to strictly follow the tone
agree hahahah
as a person who studies translation (eng-chi), the translations given by the app gave me a headache... in fact editor san did a much better job at translating than the app developers... well done editor san!
I was just thinking this! Especially the first part about the coffee and tea.
As a fellow bunny lover, I just wanted to say that I love your pfp. 😍
same. the 让 parts weren't that accurate in the translations
I'm taiwanese and i think the translations are alright, but the choices of words are more like how mainland chinese speak!!
I found the things editor-san added were so funny.
To people that don’t speak Mandarin. This app is like forcibly making everyone speak in an traditional accent. Kind of like learning English and getting punished for not having a proper English accent.
There's a 标准 in Chinese that is enforced even in Taiwanese broadcasting. You will hear standard Mandarin, even by Taiwanese broadcasters when you go to Taiwan. This is not the case in America, where news casters will speak with an American accent.
Xi the Pooh's eternal warmongering
It's 普通话 which is China's standard for mandarin. It's like learning a proper american accent or english accent.
When you learn a language, you'll want your pronunciation to be as accurate as possible. Even if you're learning english, you'd want to have a proper english accent rather than a mix of your own accent with english.
Also, reading a character wrong in Chinese may change the whole meaning of your sentence or confuse other people. It's not like english where you mispronounce one word and you can still guess what the person's trying to say.
@@mushiroom7711 A proper American what accent? New Yorker? Southern drawl? Appalachian? Midwestern ope? Boston-Manhattan Italian American? Baltimore hood?
A proper English accent what? Londoner? Manchester? Received pronunciation? Cockney? Scouse? Or any of the other big ones?
I was at their show in Taiwan and they literally spoke Chinese the whole time, they definitely know how to speak well XDD
Being born into Chinese family but mostly speaks English be like
Me: I'm gonna do my work now ok?
Dad: 等一下。来来，我要问你东西。
Grandma: **Speaks Hokkien**
Mom: **Speaks Cantonese**
Me: Ayo C H I L L
Me who speaks Chinese mainly in family
Just learn them all ;D you have the perfect opportunity HAHA
Perfect Malaysian Chinese Family lol
One of my students' parents are both Chinese, so I had to really try to understand them, because I'm British, but only understand A2 level Mandarin, but my students' parents speak Teochew and Cantonese, but I work in Bangkok, so the Thai teachers speak to their son obviously in Thai, I use English and some broken Mandarin like "我们现在回家“ then his parents needed help with the online platform when we had to close because of the pandemic. I've learnt some Cantonese from his mum like 咁又係 (gam3 jau6 hai6)
i had to use Cantonese bc my mom can't understand that much English lol
kidna feel bad for her cause this year nearly all my teachers are from the US or UK kekw
Eddy’s pronunciation isn’t bad. He just speaks with a bit of a Taiwanese accent which is easy to understand. As someone who grew up in Beijing my skills of writing in traditional Chinese are about the same level as Brett and Eddy.
每次遇到大陸同學會寫繁體字彷彿就變成了一種超能力
Funny that people from Taiwan know more simplified Chinese than mainlanders know traditional simply due to the fact that most pirated content in Chinese is from China
@@9o1ybiusbut it's still hard for Taiwanese people to write simplified Chinese correctly
@@9o1ybius dude it’s called ‘simplified’ for a freaking reason
@@9o1ybius it’s easy for people who knows traditional Chinese to read simplified Chinese cuz many simplified Chinese characters are either literally a part of the traditional Chinese character (like “beauty” in trad is 麗 and sim only took the top part 丽) or just simplified some strokes of the traditional characters (like “country” in trad is 國 while in sim is 国)
As a linguist I am LOVING this language talk in the comments. I don’t know anything about mandarin but this was so interesting to watch!
What kind of linguist are you lol
@@duckymomo7935 Lol, a linguist isn't someone who magically knows everything about every language ever. It just means they study the intricacies of language. There are also many different fields of study within linguistics.
I'm a language student and i studied linguistics, do you have any sort of super power? i've never understood anything about linguistics damn.
@@PotatO99809I mean it's like maths in sciences. Some people do biology, chemistry, sciences but they all need maths at some point and some scientists still hate maths or don't know too much about it. Linguistics is the same with languages, you have general or specific knowledge depending on the languages you like, but that's all. You don't dig into phonetics or pragmatics
I'm so happy to see two kids from Taiwan migrated to Australia at such a young age still can read and write their mother tongue. My cousins migrated to Australia when they were quite small as well, but none of them speak their mother tongue (we are South Asian).
Tiannmen square massacre back in 1989 and now uyghur muslim killings and labour camps in xian Jiang region .. how long will Chinese people bow down to the oppressive CCP who have taken away their freedom of speech and kept the Chinese population in a bubble ..
Language is such a big part of identity, the problem I'm facing right now is that at the age of 19 I still can't speak my country's official language well lol. I live in a country wherein 'dialects' are basically different languages already and not just a matter of pronounciation or vocabulary. Although I can read and write the official language easily, speaking it right off the bat is so hard to do haha but it's so important because of the dialect-definition I said before, I'll need it to make new friends from different parts of my country and feel a deeper connection and understanding of my homeland, and by extension, myself.
@@popojelly1895 what is your native language if you don't mind?
As a linguist/ Mandarin teacher, I have to say the APP follows mainly mainland Mandarin semantics and syntax. A lot of the wording/grammar/ pragmatics are not used the same way in Taiwan, and if they grew up getting mainly Taiwanese Mandarin exposure, it’s not their fault they got some of the answers wrong.
英文不太好，我就用中文回了😅
我覺得尤其是「讓」這個字用的異常頻繁，台灣(我不確定其他地方)在中國文化入侵後這個字的使用頻率似乎也變高了🤔
明明有其他更好的動詞可以代替
還有他拼音那部份令我這個中文為母語的人嚴重失去信心(我是香港人),加上古古怪怪的直譯......要學習中文這個應用程式不是一個好的選擇
@@KwolF260 欸不是 如果不用「讓」要用什麼？「使」嗎？感覺好正式喔XD（沒有惡意，單純好奇啦）
@@user-gy5pz6ev2c 叫、請、要？根據那一篇同事叫他去看醫生的對話，讓確實有點怪
@@user-gy5pz6ev2c 「叫」吧 讓對我們來說意思比較偏向let 叫才是told
Brett does kinda know how to write those characters lol he just can’t write with the proper stroke sequence
Like who knows them(i don't)
@@xinjokee3512 I'm Taiwanese and when I first learned Mandarin characters in primary school I didn't get the sequence right either. But I guess as you grow older and write more often you just somehow manage to get it right (even if it is a word you haven't seen before) without purposely memorizing the sequence. Practice makes perfect, I guess.
@@user-gy5pz6ev2c 小學的時候老師有沒有叫你們寫習字嗎? 我很好奇
因爲我小學的時候就是這樣子練熟的
@@user-gy5pz6ev2c its all about patterns
@@user-gy5pz6ev2c I still write characters like万and方backwards, I write the pie before the hengzhewangou
Funny, I've completed this app's course in 简体中文, seeing the same tasks in traditional characters is weird. Such a different experience😅
yeah but a native speaker just read both... and a Chinese speaking weeb would casually mix upJapanese kanji at some point...
Actually at 10:30, Eddy has correct pronunciation because in Taiwan they say Sen instead of Shen, so it is a bit unfair since they have a different dialect.
I’m learning Chinese in school and proud to say I know like three words. Honestly so talented
@burb what does that mean? I recognise a few characters!
@@laurazeditz7279 it means
amazing! im also very proud of u
@@chloe-lp9jjmy guy, did you use google translate?
@@chloe-lp9jj *has google translate on mobile*
@@laurazeditz7279 I think they meant to type 我为你
Okay, but editor-san has amazing musical knowledge, amazing hearing (like, she can literally hear when they play a wrong note or smth), flawless humour AND can speak chinese? How did you get yourself such a perfectly suitable editor, I'm so impressed
I think they have several editors, a crew of them
Where is the editor?
@@larakalish881 In the basement.
She?
@@Nezumi99 In one of their older videos, editor-san is filming eddy and brett in a café and you can see a hand that looks very feminine. Of course it could be a man but I just assumed it was a she so it slipped out when I commented, sorry XD
11:02 shop belly
It's okay Eddy, I took Classical Chinese in college because they allowed us Japanese language students to take it as well as Chinese language students. The Chinese students could pronounce but couldn't read Traditional, and the Japanese students could read Traditional but couldn't pronounce. My attempts were all very Tang Dynasty lol.
Eddy (all the time): No, the app is helping you, there is no way you can get it;
Brett: I GOT THIS (while literally just drawing random lines on the board)😂
I don’t want Brett to be misunderstood, there are very strict rules in Chinese writing when it comes to the order in which you write the strokes. Brett was “drawing the lines” correctly but not in the correct order. That was why the app kept refusing his input, so it looked like he was drawing random lines. Many people learning Chinese including native Chinese people have trouble writing the strokes in the correct order, even though they wrote all the strokes in the right places to complete the character.
@@winteryz1222 Lol I do the same, lived in china for 11 years and I still mess up 聚 every once in a while
@@winteryz1222 yep, as a Chinese myself, I understand that. I'm saying it in a half joking manner, and hopefully that didn't make you or anyone feel uncomfortable.
it's not that hard. write it from the outside in, and from the left to right. And it takes some practice.
@@undecipline3686 I know how to do it. It's just I get lazy cause I'm always writing essays and I sometime draw the 横线 too long in 耳 and other little things I could include.
As another Taiwanese kid who moved overseas at an early age and only learned Chinese in weekend classes, hearing Twoset with the same accent and having the same experiences makes me smile all the time ☺️
Gd 4 u!
same!!
woah, almost the same with me, I only take weekend classes but my mom is Taiwanese and my dad doesn’t speak Chinese so I have the same accent :D
Taiwanese? You mean that part China owns? You better not be spreading false capitalist pig propaganda about how Taiwan is independent. -150 social credit because you are suspected traitor
@@fleecejohnson3298 k lmao.
As a Japanese language teacher and someone who loves learning languages this was really fun for me to watch. I haven’t learned much mandarin or other Chinese dialects because the tones intimidate me, so this was a little reassuring. Languages are just so interesting. I could answer some of those with my limited kanji experience even.
Japanese language teacher, it’s so cool! I plan to learn Japanese next year!
BTW, there are some words have different meaning between Japanese kanji and Chinese.
勉強, for example, which means “learning” in Japanese, means “not willing to do something” or “force someone to do something” in Chinese.
Mandarin is very interesting! Hope you can enjoy it someday 😀
Tones in Mandarin really aren't that tricky compared to other tonal languages like Cantonese or Vietnamese, it's more about the tone rules and exceptions to those rules.
As someone with a very small dollop of chinese blood, I AM AWED by the depth of editor San's knowledge and appreciation for details even the app developer failed to note😄
Editor-san is mad talented like, she knows mandarin, Korean, music, sarcasm and boba..im in love
Me too! 😍
Plot twist: editor san is Ling Ling
same
@@catothecensor gagged to death
They have a team of editors, not just one person.
Eddy: “that’s not fair, it’s teaching you how to do it”
*playing a game is literally meant to teach you how to read, write, and speak Chinese*
Hahaha yes I was going to say! The pictures are so you learn to associate the word with the idea of the thing rather than with an English word.
@@candiedhams wait what app is it
@@theanonymous.5940 I don't know, I've just seen similar things before.
@@candiedhams wait i looked it up by screenshoting it and apparently its "hellochinese" but somehow i already had it installed in my ocean of language apps but never opened it so i didnt recognize it.
But I don't think Brett's gonna learn that character by desperately doodling on the screen 🤣
not Chinese or learning Chinese, but I am learning Japanese which uses Chinese characters for its Kanji. I totally relate to the "i can read it but i can't write it" thing, it's so easy for me to recognize some words, but i cannot write most of the words i've learned
Using Butterfly Lover’s Concerto as the music for this video is the cherry on top. I love the piece so much, especially the double violin and erhu version.
Brett's problem: writing
Eddy's problem: speaking
🤣 it's fun watching them challenging themselves for their root's language
I think Eddy's having trouble doing the speaking because of his accent. His accent naturally doesn't use the r sound that Chinese has
When I came to this conclusion I started laughing my ass off 😭
Actually there’s nothing wrong with Eddy’s pronunciations! He has a Taiwanese accent whereas the app only detects Beijing accent, so the problem is with the app!
@@user-et2mn1tc3x thats true. the voice recognition on this app is just a joke.
Native speaker means that your speaking is good, but your writing and reading is horrible - that's me ;-;
@@booplaw9881 Me too, for me I can speak fluently (conversation wise), but has terrible grades in school. (Eg: writing chinese compositions, chinese exam papers) hence I don’t ever consider myself being good in the language at all 🥲🥲🤧
I am proud to think that my violin playing is as good as Brett's Chinese
Hi~我是你來自台灣（Taiwan）的粉絲，一直很喜歡你們影片的內容，很高興你們還記得一些中文！
這個影片真的非常有趣（interesting！）
希望你們能繼續努力朝著練琴40小時（Practice for 40 hours）的目標前進
也希望大家都不會染上新冠肺炎（get COVID-19）
祝好運🍀（你們可以嘗試(try)用中文回覆我！）
你好呀，你是台湾(taiwan)的鸭(ya)？我是香港(hongkong)的，目前(now)在学英文（english）
I’m confused, why put certain parts in parenthesis?
@@rayyfire5738probably to translate them to clarify confusion
@@lemonadeamongus9564香港用繁體字的
2:33 the pipa playing at Brett's shock 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
It's the hysterical laughter whenever the other person gets a hard question or makes a mistake for me.
We still don’t know how many languages editor San can speak.
Probably 40...
She’s Sonia Nevermind
@@reverseli WAHAH SONIA
@@reverseli did not expect a dr reference here
@@sashalafrutilla5500 no one ever expects it, Danganronpa is a disease and it infects everyone and everything
I like how Brett extended to 'chaaaaaa' at 1:24
Me 2... That was just adorable , cute nd funny 🤣..
4:43 你還活著嗎？
For the"醫生讓我打針"question. Actually in Taiwan, we don't usually use "讓" to express "told" because "讓" is more similar to "let."
We more use "叫", which is closer to the meaning of "told" or "ask" in English.
You mean in china, it actually means "told"? Or is the app just weird? I'm Singaporean Chinese.
@@Idle_adventures It can mean told and let based on the scenario. I personally think 'asked' in English could be a good explanation? Like you can be asked to do something in which you can choose to do it or not, and you can be asked to do something knowing you don't have a choice
我從來沒聽過這個“讓”的用法 w 一直以來就是用"叫“還是”給“
>醫生給我打針
>朋友叫我去醫院
I suspect the content is based on the usage of Chinese in Mainland China and that's why.
Same for Singapore!
Reading the comments makes me remember we have a brilliantly wonderful, diverse, wholesome and multitalented community. I'm so proud of us. 😊
As someone who uses this very app to learn Mandarin, I'm so excited this is the one they chose!
I wish they knew there's a way to speed up the speech, though. It seems it's too slow for them.
Tiannmen square massacre back in 1989 and now uyghur muslim killings and labour camps in xian Jiang region .. how long will Chinese people bow down to the oppressive CCP who have taken away their freedom of speech and kept the Chinese population in a bubble ..
Absolutely loving how these two are freaking out each time when they need to write Chinese characters ahahaha that was me a decade ago
i chose the wrong moment to drink water 7:28
To anyone still wondering what was wrong with "點" in "幾點起床", it's because when you have 3 consecutive 3rd intonation (第三聲調), which "幾", "點", "起" all are, the first two are turned into 2nd intonation (第二聲); later "幾點洗澡", all 4 are 3rd intonation, only the 1st and 3rd character will be turned into 2nd intonation.
"打"針part: my speculation is that there was a slight extra "r" sound attached at the end of "打" which the app might have picked up
Definitely not my only reaction to the video, but just for anyone finishing the video and wanting to know the answer (coz I sometimes felt unsatisfied if I watched something and had a question left hanging unanswered)
......i studied 12 years of chinese in school and i have never knew this :O
@@Idle_adventures I remember learning this in my primary school class coz I'm the type of person quite sensitive to rules kind of things. It is a rule to make speaking the words as a phrase easier/more manageable. Try saying 3 or 4 consecutive words with all of them 3rd intonation (the whole intonation perfectly with downward and upward tone) and you will know what I mean (how hard it is)
Hi, may I ask if this is a rule? I speak mandarin myself but never paid attention to the intonation rule as I didn't study it methodologically
I would have crossed out the 讓rather than the other two word
@@helenwong4230 I wouldn't say it's a hard rule. It's more like how native speakers would naturally learn and speak it. In fact, many people struggle with actually spelling out the sound in primary school because the written sound is different from the spoken sound.
@@helenwong4230 Not sure what you're referring to by the last sentence, but for the intonation rule, yes, to my best knowledge, with a certain confidence. Though I will still leave rooms for contesting, since it had been almost 20 years since I learnt it in primary school.
As a Taiwanese, it’s cool to see you speak
Mandarin. Your Mandarin is actually pretty good.🔥🔥🤩
I think this website is not the same as the Mandarin taught in Taiwan. Or maybe he made a small mistake?
10:52的讓用叫來代替感覺會更順(Use 叫 instead of 讓 feels like it will make the grammar more fluent.)
@@nawiatboi1844 對呀！還有其實 Eddy 的發音根本沒有問題，是因為這個網站用的是北京腔
@@user-et2mn1tc3x Eddy的发音对于绝大多数大陆南方人和港澳台地区的人来说都是没问题的。
@@user-et2mn1tc3x 我是广西的，烦死普通话了，我普通话考级才二乙，我本身的桂柳话腔调很难改变...
I want to learn Chinese.. but I thinkI'm not smart enough for that.. ):
I will be so proud if I be able to understand what u guys are saying in comments someday..
I'll try my best.. T^T
I just started learning Taiwanese mandarin and found this one so hillarious. It makes me wanna learn more and more. The traditional one looks hard but I found it beautiful :) especially the love character with heart inside.
idk why, but Eddy's pronunciation of "醫生讓我打一針" has a canto feel to it.
Me: being sad.
Brett: Dancing and laughing because Eddy got a writting excercise.
Me: Don't being sad anymore.
Me being depressed for days
TwoSet *uploads new video*
Me: Happy till there's music...
same
7:06 Eddy- I think it's this but I could be wrong
Also Eddy- Writes it perfectly on the first try
I love it. How they are celebrating characters they knew. It's so adorable.
Noticed someone in the comment not appreciating the Chinese name 雙琴俠 enough. IMHO 雙琴俠 is actually quite poetic. It has to do with the Wuxia culture. Whoever came up with this name really mastered localization. You have my utmost respect.
Tiannmen square massacre back in 1989 and now uyghur muslim killings and labour camps in xian Jiang region .. how long will Chinese people bow down to the oppressive CCP who have taken away their freedom of speech and kept the Chinese population in a bubble ..
As a Chinese from north of China, I always, always, find the way they speak Chinese CUTE AF!! Like, their accent, their tone, their choice of words, CUTENESS OVERRFLOW!!!
Wish I know how cute it is 😂😂😂😂
@@kris_pang This may not be the best example, but just think about how a 5yr old kid speak English. Not the best example, but the vibe is similar lol
I think many say its cute because its a Taiwanese/Southern Chinese accent.
They have cute accent called “Taiwanqiang “ right?
@@simplytwosetter WAIT THAT'S SO CUTE 😂😂😂😂😂
Didn't know editor san knows Chinese too, we stan a multi-talented person
I think they have several editors, a crew of them
I started watch Twoset when I was in highschool, it's mostly to learn English and because I had a unique interest to violin (I'm not playing any instrument). Now I am a third year student in university, and watching this video (again), realizing that, "bingo, I start learn Mandarin!"
So basically I learn everything but practice violin. :")
As a foreign Mandarin learner, it’s so cool to listen to you guys speak Chinese and answer the exercises with you!! Amazing video as always :)
I remember practicing in orchestra rehearsal, had a piece that had all music descriptions written in Russian, not in German or Italian. I was the only one in the entire group that knew Russian, the conductor always point to me and asked what that word meant.
such a great feeling😂
太讚了！
終於有一集不用全程看翻譯了～
這就跟我學單字一樣崩潰啊😂
btw，背景是梁祝我超愛的！！
梁祝超好听！祝你背单词顺利哟 😂 我都不知道他们有专门的翻译啊？
@@kitcatwafers 應該也是有好心人幫忙翻譯的！大部分都是有段時間前的影片才可以自動翻譯～
剪輯真的有心了，今天的背景音樂基本上都是傳統樂器
感謝谷歌翻譯
TIL I have been writing 果 with 田 and 木 separately my whole life when it should have been a single long stroke for that middle vertical stroke! Wow.
Lol love the butterfly lovers violin concerto in the background
11:08
Their
parents were Taiwanese. In Taiwan ''My colleague told me go to the hospital" we generally use the word '"叫" not "讓", "讓" is more like "let me", Brett is right. (But Chinese people are useing "讓", It's cultural difference
)
The same is true for Singapore. It means let here.
Same, and my friends from Fujian and Malaysia use "叫" more than "讓". But personally I found that in China "叫“ has a stronger feeling of demand than "讓" (actually both of them are pretty strong when used as "let some do some thing"); When saying something make me feel upset, this two words are kind of similar ... but probably both of them are less seen in formal or academic writing OwO
Does anyone else just LOVE their Taiwanese accents?!
I know righttt :DDDD
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Kudos to editor san for editing ALL of this so well - but also for linking this back to the channel's theme by playing Butterfly Lovers in the background! Great detail! 🦋
This was both lovely and hilarious!
Remembering things from your culture and childhood, is so beautiful. Nostalgia and respect.
Guessing brush strokes and saying Pandas in to the Forest, GENERALLY is hilarious. And very relatable to anyone learning languages!
Have a lovely weekend.
Glad they revisited duolingling
you could say they are bilinglingual
I like how no one points out that Brett gave the game a middle finger
I checked then 'cos I thought he was flipping the bird, but it was the index finger.
When pls help
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@@kareraisu7327 5:15
That ain't a middle finger though....
I’m from Hong Kong so I speak Chinese too! 你們的Video很好!!
y did you write video in english
7:33 I think it was listening for a tone change of the 点 due to the 起。
6:51 man I refuse to believe that Brett is 29 years old !
Lol I do victory dance too and I'm 30!! xD
Brett channeling inner Miyagi be like
Me who is Chinese-Filipino: I have been studying Chinese for more than 10 years and I still can’t speak the language fluently-
How are you defining fluently though?😮 Nobody knows every single aspect of a language. Even natives💭.
You and I are the same person
As a chinese who can speak fluently I cant write properly
America: c'mon man, hold my beer
@@simphiwe4930 mmm I would say I can’t understand when someone speaks full Chinese. Sometimes I do but I can’t really catch what they are saying that well 😅 ,so I guess fluently would just be being able to go to other country and understand what they are saying without some sort of guide
I love Brett's "That's not me, that's your own 点 。" 😂
I love how when Eddy gets a pronunciation wrong, he goes for matching the pitch of the voice on the app when fixing his mistake.
雙琴俠 is actually more like one dude holding two violins on each hands, 提琴雙俠 would be more accurate when translate TwoSetViolin.
這翻譯超強的!! 連聲律都顧到了
Personally I prefer 兩個小提琴 haha
@@edwardr6776 这个名字可爱哈哈哈哈
Brett trying to sabotage Eddy at 6:00 is the closest I've ever seen them to an actual argument
Most powerful being: camera man
The editor: *rivalry*
I love the 梁祝playing in the background, honestly a classic
I don’t think their pronunciation was wrong. They just had different accent. I’m jealous of their ability to read traditional letter because I always panic when I see them I only know simplified one😂
Yep. They are not wrong on pronunciation. Just only they speaking on taiwan accent and the app on beijing accent. They are taiwanese and taiwanese still using traditional Chinese.
As a Taiwanese, I really think Eddy's pronunciation is fine
I can't figure out where the problem is 😂
應該是因為app唸的是北京腔
Tiannmen square massacre back in 1989 and now uyghur muslim killings and labour camps in xian Jiang region .. how long will Chinese people bow down to the oppressive CCP who have taken away their freedom of speech and kept the Chinese population in a bubble ..
When you have the 第三声twice you need to say the first word as 第二声 ?
Omg the butterfly lovers concerto playing in the background !
The hilarious music at 10:19 and throughout that subtly lampoons Twoset! Dying laughing and trying not to make noise
Their Taiwanese accent is so adorable awww
This video makes me think of what TwoSet would be they were caucasian or south-asian. A truly interesting thing that would be.
Also major props to editor-san, for the edits along the way, where would we be without you.
Considering that Caucasians (the actual Caucasians) have their own set of very diverse culture that is a sort of a blend of middle eastern, northern asian and eastern european + their own unique culture...
I think it would've been really interesting
@@anna_and_more Especially how much it would have influenced their past experiences, and how their channel would have developed.
They might not have been that much into classical music if they were south asian. There aren't many professional orchestras or classical music universities here.
@@musicbee8861 Man, TwoSet parallel univererses be a rabbit hole of what ifs,
What do you mean if they were Caucasian or South Asian?
omg please keep making chinese videos!!!!!!!! I'm currently learning Chinese Hsk2 and these videos are so great to revise and also have fun, you guys are great
I cringed so hard at the app forcing Beijing accent, I hate that it's regarded as standard, it sounds so snobbish to me (Malaysian)
It's funny seeing Brett trying to concentrate to win over Eddy! 😂
I kinda want to see what their real Chinese handwriting look like!! Please write something in Chinese by hand!!
ah yes, hopefully better than mine
Since Eddy is good at drawing, I would love to see how he writes/draws Chinese characters !
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Ikr!! I hope he could write something in Chinese if there is a chance!
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I love this! I've been having such a hard time learning Mandarin so this is super relatable 😂
AAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!! I have the same story as you guys!!! I came to NZ when I was five and previously was in China! And this year I'm moving to AU
as someone who speaks chinese, this video is hilarious af 🤣
Agreed 😂😂
it must be so much more fun to understand what’s actually going on, wish i could🙈😍
As someone who doesn’t speak Chinese this video was still hilarious thanks to editor san’s translations and comments 😂
"讓" doesn't really means "told somebody to do something" in Taiwan, it's from China.
In Taiwan, we use "叫" instead of "讓" normally.
And in this app, they use Beijing accent, big difference compare to Taiwan accent.
We usually say “叫” as well here in Singapore!
@@graeyeeshii You from Singapore also? Nice to meet you lah!
We also use 叫 on Malaysia.
“叫” is used by Southern or overseas Chinese
我是河北的，也用叫
I have been teaching English online to children in China for nearly 3 years and I am still struggling to remember any words or phrases apart from "Hello, how are you?" and "Happy New Year". Kudos to you both, it is such a difficult language to pronounce, remember and especially to write!
It doesn't help that there are multiple different languages used in China, so I never know whether to learn the Mandarin, Cantonese, Simple Chinese or traditional Chinese words! 😯😯
this might be one of my favorite episodes lol
to be honest, as a Taiwanese, I sometimes forget how to write some words because I'm using phone to type all the time🤣
Ohh my this is sooo refreshing to watch. Especially when their expressions light up when they get something correct 💖👌
???????? the video has been out for 30 seconds
for those who are wondering - eddy’s pronunciation of 點 (dian) was off as the tone was incorrect (he used tone 3)
we should use tone 3 when pronouncing 點 on its own, but once it is followed by another character also in tone 3 (here it is 起 qi) we have to change it to tone 2! so it sounds easier on the ears :-D
also they learnt taiwanese mandarin, but the app is for learning chinese putonghua so they couldn’t get everything right
using 生 as an example:
taiwan: seng
china: sheng
the taiwanese pronunciation doesn’t require the speaker to ‘curl’ their tongue :-)
hope this helps!
edit: apparently there is also tongue curling in taiwanese mandarin, just not as emphasised! (detailed explanation in the replies below)
The weird thing about that was that Eddy pronounced 針 as 針兒， almost like in a northern Chinese dialect
But 生 as sēn and 讓 as làng did make sense with a Taiwan accent
@@jacoblee9765 i think he was trying to do 翹舌 (tongue curling) to adapt to the beijing dialect …. but failing miserably HAHA
you mean standard 普通话, not all of China
@@hbfdfgjcyk555 sounds like the beijing dialect to me - i think that’s the standard for learning materials right
I know almost no Chinese speech, but I do know what order the strokes need to be written because I studied Chinese _characters_ when I was young lol
--It was funny watching Brett trying to write -_-water-_---
I love how the different sections of butterfly lovers were used throughout the video
As a Chinese instructor in both Cantonese and Mandarin, and as an interpreter, it makes me so ecstatic to hear their Taiwanese accents. As an ABC, I’ve tried hard to learn it and drop my Cantonese accent, but it’s so difficult. Bit jealous, but Taiwanese pride right there with their beautiful accents.
Sadly, there aren’t enough Mandarin learning apps that offer learners to learn Taiwanese Mandarin. It’s such a beautiful variant of Mandarin that some don’t appreciate.
Edit: Realised someone else gave them the name of 雙琴俠 which I was really disappointed in. What Eddy and Brett proposed was honestly way more accurate and much more adorable than 雙琴俠.
How about Cable TV (sadly, dying out) that plays Taiwanese channels? We had lots of it here in South East Asia, and that's how I quickly understood the Taiwanese slang despite never having gone there till much later.
As a Spanish interpreter the apps for learning Spanish are not that great either, even when they are widely available. The younger and older demographics speak with a lot of slang, not the appropriate language (also depending on the level of registry). So even when some of my friends use these apps to learn spanish, they get confused as to why I frases this this way and not that. I could go on about verb tensing and every COUNTRY in Latin America speaks differently. The same word can mean an insult in another. For example, in Panama (my country) we use BICHO as a mosquito. In Puerto Rico, they used it for male genitalia…. I could go on. 😂🙈
look, we got 《湯姆貓與傑利鼠》《小查與寇弟的頂級飯店生活》《飛哥與小佛》《肥貓鬥小強》all these cartoon and show translate by that main characters name, why not just call them Brett and Eddy 阿布與艾迪 done
@@undecipline3686 Because those aren’t by the characters’ names, but because those shows are named after the characters.
TwoSet Violin could’ve been like 兩套小提琴 or something that was more literal and less figurative. Sort of like how Spider-Man is literally 蜘蛛人. Perfect. Then we have stuff like 鋼鐵俠 and 蝙蝠俠, which bugs me so much.
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I don’t know if Brett and Eddy will see this comment but just in case you didn’t know, 雙琴侠 actual gives the impression that there is one guy playing 2 violins. A few more accurate name might be 提琴雙侠 or琴樂雙侠 or 樂池雙侠, The 雙character pairs with the noun immediately following it. 提琴 generalizes violin viola cello bass etc; 琴樂 generalize all instrumental music; or 樂池 which is the orchestra pit since Chinese heroes sometimes have the tendency to be named either by their unique skill/weapon or their place of origin. Anyway, you guys are the best and deserve the title of 大侠 in the world of classical music❤️
Also 琴 used on its own, without specifying what type of stringed instrument it is, historically/culturally refers/alludes to 古琴 by default. So 提琴雙俠 I would agree is a better and more accurate rendition, whilst adhering to the traditional naming convention structure without being too wordy or convoluted.
I think maybe they were trying to count two 琴俠, and 雙琴俠is more catchy than 4-word phrases. I am really glad they didn't go with 兩把小提琴, just imagine how hilarious it will be when you say you are going to concerts of 兩把小提琴
Helen Wong Lol that gets me every time!
@@helenwong4230 I kinda thought the 4 character titles were more common for Chinese heroes. Maybe I was exposed to too much 金庸novels as a teenager, remembering names like 江南七怪 黑白雙煞 etc especially when it’s a team of heroes.
I'm thinking of either 弦乐兄弟 (although this refers to all string instruments) or 琴兄弟.
Kinda like chopsticks sisters
The background music is amazing!
i’ve been really impressed by your guys’ english since i found your channel (just cuz learning a language in a different alphabet is hard!), but your perfect english makes sense now that i know you moved to an english-speaking country when you were little 😂
To Eddy:
6:07 that 點 you read 第三聲 which is correct in general
But! Here it should be 第二聲 because the next word 起 is also 第三聲 therefore you gotta change the word before 起 to 第二聲
i’ve been speaking chinese for 17 years and i still can’t get the difference between 已 and 己
已 the "tail" overshot the "head" hence it means already (already too far, overshot)
己 does not overshoot hence it is the other meaning, self
This is how my primary school teacher taught us
@@iromosushi6291 istg social media teaches me better than school
@@Eis5400 Excuse me, could you please tell me what does 'istg' mean in English? I'm a Chinese and I don't know what is the full version of istg😭
@@_quella4808 istg = "I swear to god"
@@_quella4808 i swear to god lol
I love how you guys specially edited the Butterfly Lovers Violin Concerto into the background for some Chinese context. Lol.
I'm French and thank to two set 🎻, I got clearly better marks in English since I watch their videos... perhaps I will learn Chinese thanks to them....
That would be so cool!!!!