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Golden Sun's Total Eclipse - Dark Dawn | KBash Game Reviews

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2020
  • Apotheosis, absolution.
    Golden Sun is a series near and dear to my heart. I've often heard that you shouldn't ironically like things, or shouldn't say you like "bad things" because if you like something you think is bad, it's actually good. It's rather that a lot of nostalgia and pathos are wrapped up in how I think about the series and the universe. I think it's flawed to the core, but I love what it could be. Now I'm just finishing what I started.
    Early in my "career" I reviewed the Golden Sun games, and did the whole angry gamer, scathing criticism, good thing actually bad thing bit, and the focus was on the writing. If anything that's the one hill I'll die on - the writing in these games is abysmal, just disgusting, but that doesn't mean the aesthetic components or other parts are low quality. I just have a problem with everything but the music and visuals, nbd.
    Anyway, from the original, to the Lost Age, to the cliffhanger that is Dark Dawn, let's put this thing to bed.
    #goldensun #kbash #jrpg

ความคิดเห็น • 423

  • @GambitRaps
    @GambitRaps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    I applaud you for choking down that disgusting concoction in the beginning for the sake of a single fleeting visual gag, that’s commitment right there

    • @heinokunzelmann8967
      @heinokunzelmann8967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Heh visual "gag"

    • @wolfiewoo3371
      @wolfiewoo3371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd drink it

    • @Spiral81C1
      @Spiral81C1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's well accustomed to choking down disgusting things....

    • @brycerichardson3687
      @brycerichardson3687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Spiral81C1 what that mean

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Spiral81C1 yeah, he-
      Wait what?

  • @blackdragoncyrus
    @blackdragoncyrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Wouldn't it be great if we made some Djinni permanently missable?

    • @Badhealthcare
      @Badhealthcare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      No, but we're gonna do it anyway.

    • @caladhunt4860
      @caladhunt4860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I ONLY MISSED ONE. (I'm still salty)

    • @MaskedKingDavid
      @MaskedKingDavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, sounds great. It'll totally increase replay value and won't just tick off players!

    • @ubermaster1
      @ubermaster1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Making sidequest in an RPG permanently missable? Annoying but sure, they're side quest, you only do them if you want or if you know it'll unlock some random ass super dungeon.
      Making stat bossing, main story items/equips/whatever the fuck permanently missable? Why????

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ubermaster1 ikr

  • @themostdeadmeme1609
    @themostdeadmeme1609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Personally I think it should be considered a war crime for TH-cam to not give me a notification for this video until 18 minutes after it was uploaded

  • @tiymakoizau
    @tiymakoizau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    This is what happens when you love a game series so much you eventually find flaws, plot holes and soon you start talking about it in so much depth and fluency that you start to question yourself as to why you love the game...
    All that said, I love the video and I will always love Golden Sun regardless of how flawed and sometimes tedious it is.
    I rate this video a solid "laughed my ass off"/10. Thanks, K-Bash.

    • @floralgod2399
      @floralgod2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same I love the game Period point blank

    • @unknownguy8687
      @unknownguy8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same thing happened to me with the persona and final fantasy series...

  • @meaninglez100
    @meaninglez100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I really do like this series. The simple mechanics and overly verbose characters never bothered me, but Dark Dawn was really plodding and meandering. It felt like the bigger plot was being set up behind the scenes for a more grandiose game that never came. Such a shame really

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dark dawn was the best and strongest of all 3

    • @zerosorigin8387
      @zerosorigin8387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@novustalks7525 ???

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zerosorigin8387 what

    • @WeyardWiz
      @WeyardWiz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes because it's missing the SEQUEL that Nintendo refuses to do because of fans who b*etched about DD!

  • @MooseEatsBears
    @MooseEatsBears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    It's such a shame that these games didn't hit the heights they clearly could have. But no matter what, the music is absolutely fucking phenomenal in all three games.

  • @TheNekoGentleman
    @TheNekoGentleman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    About the Beastmen empire, we actually do have IRL examples of kingdoms rising that fast. Shaka Zulu's African empire and Genghis Khan had such a meteoric rise. Plus, do not forget that the Beastmen are already controlling psynergy at the start of TLA, while humans around (like the gagomba tribe) had to use crutches to do so. When you have a spear and they have a WMD, how could you stop them?

    • @neworldfool9625
      @neworldfool9625 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bruh the beast men used basic psynergy. The average person wasn’t throwing around 16 hurricanes or volcano’s before getting too tired.
      Thing is they were werewolves that weren’t actually cursed, but suddenly now there’s hedgehog men, squirrel men, and it’s no long an at night thing.
      The fact they were apparently enslaved (by whom though tbh I can’t remember them saying? Pretty weird thing to gloss over if it wasn’t in the first two games…) a few decades ago and rose up to a full kingdom?

  • @quinshorethebuttwizardtrue1843
    @quinshorethebuttwizardtrue1843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I started the series with Dark Dawn, got the game on a whim back in 2012. I was new to RPGs so I accepted a lot of the issues, namely the constant repetition of dialog and info and dumb means of plot progression, as genre tropes. The game did charm me with its presentation and that was enough to get me to deal with the bulk of walking 2 feet before each random encounter, though I did drop the game for about a month after realizing about that one Djini in the city with the magic bordered gate you only get in the lategame if you set up in advance, not knowing you'll be locked out of the city later on and need that path set up beforehand.
    Despite the flaws I still fondly remember the game. Several things do stick out to me that I always look forward to in other games. One being gear you equip on characters showing up on their ingame model in battles, Dark Dawn was the first game I saw that did that. Second are the trigger skills, I genuinely loved that feature. It insentivised finding more Artifacts by exploring or scrounging up money to buy them and maxing out those skills since they ended 95% of random encounters in the first turn, making grinding less of a chore. Lastly is gear optimization, since a lot of the special gear you get later synergises well with each other. I recall one set involving the Solar Ring and the Ninja Sandals to drastically boost your crit rate to the point that you proc a Artifact skill every attack, it really makes you feel powerful.
    Dark Dawn is a very flawed game and Golden Sun is a very flawed series but despite that I still love it. Besides, had I never played it I never would've gotten into RPGs to begin with or eventually play Dragon Quest 9, which not only is one of the best RPGs on the DS but does everything I loved Dark Dawn for but better.

  • @isaac3000
    @isaac3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    13:30 that woman is Jill from the first game. The girl who turned into a tree and Isaac saved her from drowning in the river. At the Kolima Barricade.

  • @ptolemy3257
    @ptolemy3257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Yeah I get loving flawed games, hell I still pick up custom robo arena every once in awhile.

    • @taylorbee4010
      @taylorbee4010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wanted that game so bad

    • @Freezeblow
      @Freezeblow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wish I still HAD CR:A...also, your comment hurts me on a spiritual level...

    • @pop2uno
      @pop2uno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess it comes down to preference. I loved Custom Robo on gamecube and I know it's not that good, but I will love it forever. Same with the Golden Sun games, I will fight you for them. These type of games are not made anymore so, yeah, give them some love.

    • @Vulpori
      @Vulpori 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah i replayed that game so many times

    • @EverythingKeem
      @EverythingKeem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What exactly wrong with custom robo?..... For what it's trying to do it holds up. I just been playing it on dolphin recently.

  • @flutterdrive4286
    @flutterdrive4286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    After i found out there were djinn i permanently missed, i used an action replay to just walk through the mountains blocking my way to get them normally.

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    TH-cam never gave me a notification.
    The golden sun videos are what made me a fan of the series.
    I'm honestly proud of you.
    You are a great youtuber and seeing you like This is nice.

  • @Kimosabes2hot
    @Kimosabes2hot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    If Trials of Mana can get a remake, why not Golden Sun?
    Also, ever hear of a franchise called Glory of Heracles?

    • @bioblade
      @bioblade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Kraden in 4k. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I HAVE IT!!!
      Where did I put it?!?!?

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We need a sequel

  • @bionicdragon5
    @bionicdragon5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was actually my first Golden Sun game. As flawed as it was, it motivated me to play the other two on an emulator.
    Funny thing is, I didn't even buy Dark Dawn. My dad just found it on the ground while out running errands. Given the game's many problems, I can kinda see why now.

    • @ranger4758
      @ranger4758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is it with dads and this game? I’ve never had any of the golden sun games before or paid attention to them until my dad randomly bought me dark dawn years back lmao.

    • @bionicdragon5
      @bionicdragon5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ranger4758 Well my dad grabbed it because he's a massive hoarder and it was a shiny thing on the ground.
      He didn't buy it, someone discarded it in like a park.

  • @ccsd13
    @ccsd13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Dumb kid me loved the first 2 but I coulnt pin down why i dropped this an hour in when i bought it. After your reviews it made me realize how much nostalgia blinded me on a critical level.

    • @HeavyMetalBeliever
      @HeavyMetalBeliever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the original Golden Sun game is the best in the series, and that's only because of the sheer amount of goodwill that Camelot Software got after they split from SEGA initially. Well, that and the hilarious decline of the Shining series after Shining Force. Golden Sun (1) was a lot like the Shining Force games, so it was good. But, it is a very good game even WITHOUT all that baggage.
      The Lost Age and Dark Dawn are terrible games, though.

    • @Hanfgurkenhasser
      @Hanfgurkenhasser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeavyMetalBeliever The soundtrack of the first two games was baller, though.
      But yeah, I couldn't finish the 2nd game without an extensive walkthough guide. :D Absolute madness.

    • @HeavyMetalBeliever
      @HeavyMetalBeliever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hanfgurkenhasser The soundtrack/sound design was the best thing about the first two games, arguably. I think people needed to 100% the first game and transfer the save data across to The Lost Age using another GBA and a link cable or put in an ordinately long password to actually complete it (The Lost Age). Which was crazy.

    • @Hanfgurkenhasser
      @Hanfgurkenhasser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HeavyMetalBeliever Oh god, don't remind me of that fucking password. :D
      I think I had to write the symbols/combination down on a piece of paper (only had one GameBoy) and then type it in for the 2nd game.
      Whoever designed this deserves a slap across the face.

    • @Evil_Chronic
      @Evil_Chronic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steel4 I put in the gold password yearly, it’s not hard if you’re not stupid. And TLA is easily better than GS1, GS1 is only a 20 hour game to 100% it. The games don’t have the best story, but what it does have is puzzles. And TLA is the star of the show when it comes to puzzles. If you don’t like them, then of course you won’t like TLA. Golden Sun is mainly a puzzle game, and TLA is the best representation of that.
      Edit: Also funny, you find the biggest circle jerk hating TLA on this losers channel. No surprise though, since he hates TLA.

  • @alext-b2071
    @alext-b2071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man oh man, I've been waiting for this video for a good long while. Glad it's finally out.
    Wall of text incoming. Dark Dawn was an eye-opening experience for me. I had absolutely adored the first two games when I was a kid, mostly because it was one of the first games I had on the GBA that I played to completion that left me wanting more after beating the first one. I took a good chunk of things on a surface level and didn't really feel the need to dig into the narrative or character interactions, and had I done so early on, I probably would have had a much different experience. I remember beating TLA and talking with my circle of friends in elementary school how cool it would be if we got a third game. That seven year wait was absolutely crushing, and I remembered how absolutely ecstatic I was when Dark Dawn was finally announced. I was finishing up my junior year in high school and had a firmer grasp on what good storytelling was, and if not that, at least what it wasn't, and when I finally got my hands on my copy, me and the friends I had back then were sorely disappointed.
    There was just so much pulp in the game. Your comment about the fluff is spot on and as much as I liked Himi's design, her whole entire existence felt tacked on for the sake of keeping with the tradition with TLA. I couldn't agree more with your video because it felt like there was so much potential that was there in Dark Dawn's world, yet never fully realized. I went back and played through the other two games afterwards, trying to find that old magic again and pin down what made me like the first two chapters so much, and I couldn't find it again. I think at that point, I realized and just had to accept that what thought was good in the first games was a byproduct of being an 9 year-old who was easily distracted by shiny lights and good tunes. I waited seven long years only to get the realization that behind that initial light show was a SLEW of problems that I couldn't overlook now that I was older. I needed more than just simple flair.
    If there was something Dark Dawn could have done -right- over that seven year period, it could have at least tried to grow, either by being more mechanically refined or telling a story that could have respected its audience's intellect (unlike what they did by giving us a pretty awful-ass response system in this game that we got). So many game developers do postmortems to analyze their own development process, observe the final product, and see how it resonates with audiences, and it never felt to me like they did this with the first two games after a repeat playthrough. Maybe they felt it resonated with players well enough, given the review scores online through game critic sites, but I don't think I'll ever feel the same about the franchise ever again, and from what data I can find, Dark Dawn performed poorly in sales. Chances are, we'll never see a Golden Sun 4 unless it's picked up for a reboot. It's been almost ten years with no sign of a follow-up, and after the first near-decade of hyping myself up for a mediocre sequel, I'd be damned if I did so again.
    Your videos on the first two game really puts into perspective as to why the first two games were middling at best and outright drudgery at worst. Your opinion on the franchise has been interesting to mull over, and really solidified my own perspective on the series as a whole. I love your videos and hope you find more success with these reviews in the future.
    That said, I'd be curious to hear your opinions on another DS sequel: ever play through Final Fantasy Tactics A2? Can't wait for your next video.

  • @Roberto-mm4gr
    @Roberto-mm4gr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The “Obaba stans rise up” bit had me laughing

  • @ableno.9906
    @ableno.9906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your sitting on your bed tired and knowing summer's coming to end when you see a notification in your subscribe box, Kbash uploading a video, you look at it and notice two words Dark dawn, a string of memory's flowing back from the past of one summer 5 years ago, going to a small electronics shop, you try to recall what it was called but all you can recall was they sold Ds games, Ds games, you go to check them out despite none of them being for the 3ds you pick one out golden sun dark dawn, you manage to pull out some scraps from your pocket just about enough money to purchase the game you don't have much of a clue about what the games actually about you just recall looking in the old super smash bros brawl trophy room and seeing Isaac and at the bottom of the screen two words "golden sun"
    You boot up the game slowly on the car ride back, at least that's how you remember it going you start playing and there he is in a small box, you question why on earth his names Matthew so you change it to Issac, but as you hit confirm it states you can't use that name, confused you just accept that you can't name him Issac and do your normal RPG name, able.
    a couple seconds in and your walking with someone it turns out to be Issac...
    and then the memory's stop, you can't recall much of what happened after that just some things about djinns and cool summons that stick in your head, and how the opening was way too long... also that there was a werewolf girl who you thought was cute...
    and then you start to recall you never finished it, I wonder how I'll feel watching something like this after not being able to find that game for so long.

    • @ableno.9906
      @ableno.9906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Turns out I was at the end, just never beat the boss, screw me.

  • @XelchanTheBrave
    @XelchanTheBrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Never knew this ended on a cliffhanger. A shame.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      STILL ANGRY ABOUT IT

    • @randominternetuser5872
      @randominternetuser5872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is why I hated cliffhangers, At least with other games that got discontinued, The story most likely are already wrapped up nicely. But, With cliffhanger endings, If the series got discontinued, That cliffhanger will haunt you for life

    • @TheHeavieKiwie
      @TheHeavieKiwie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@randominternetuser5872 Will they ever make it? Will they stop making that boring Mario tennis game and make a golden Sun game even though they could be horrible at it by now?

    • @randominternetuser5872
      @randominternetuser5872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheHeavieKiwie I don't care if it's bad, Or if it isn't a game and just a big sun saga covering what happened after Dark dawn, Just at least end the story in a nice way (I'm looking at you Shenmue III)

    • @TheHeavieKiwie
      @TheHeavieKiwie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@randominternetuser5872 Exactly exactly. I do really care about the story more. I'd be happy if we get to know it at least.
      According to them what happened in Lost Age was the beginning of what's actually gonna happen.
      I don't really need the whole game itself if knowing the story is at least possible even without the game.

  • @Chelaxim
    @Chelaxim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It's saying something when the first two games are on the Wii U Virtual Console but not Dark Dawn.

    • @TheBatmanMan1
      @TheBatmanMan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We’re there any 3DS games (or even DS games for that matter) on the Wii U Virtual Console? Without bothering to look, I’m gonna bet that there weren’t, cus you can’t really take the dual screen mechanic and put it onto the Wii U effectively. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

    • @ParmMannREBORN
      @ParmMannREBORN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheBatmanMan1 there are a decent amount of DS Games on the Wii U, like a lot of Wii U VC, it's not handled the best but it's not handled the worst

    • @moonmannd7501
      @moonmannd7501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBatmanMan1 Literally the only DS game I ever looked for was Explorers of Time, which they had, so even if 1 isn't exactly a great sample size odds are the DS had coverage.

  • @NintendoFighters
    @NintendoFighters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You just reminded me that I never died or had a game over until I reached the final boss

  • @Poochkip
    @Poochkip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    HE ACTUALLY FREAKING DID IT

  • @58_m.wildanhidayat99
    @58_m.wildanhidayat99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Man it's been awhile since then i played this game's like 5 years ago

    • @XXXXX8
      @XXXXX8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "things are not the same as they were 5 years ago." Fucking genius over here, guys.

  • @Kayas
    @Kayas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been waiting for this review since I found your channel through your Golden Sun videos. I've had the displeasure of spending this year playing games I missed out on thanks to free time offered by covid and amongst those were the Golden Sun games which... yeah...
    I really liked this video and your writing style has definitely improved since then.

  • @SleepDeprivationVids
    @SleepDeprivationVids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing like rewatching all of my favorite series of videos from my favorite youtuber. It's been fun watching your content evolve over the years.

  • @oak3684
    @oak3684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember playing this a long time ago and really, REALLY loved the game... Though, I think I was stuck with a limited choice of game at the time, so I was fully invested in the game and I didn't really care to nitpick into the details on the story and characters. But wow, seeing you breaking it down like that kinda makes me infuriate at quite a few things, too (such as the extra characters' roles and uses of the Djinns)! But I guess my fuzzy memory of the game and nostalgia will preserve it in a better light. XD
    BUT! The hate for being able to miss Djinns was real, though. I was so pissed that I couldn't return to town to get the Djinn I meant to get later because of the story progression. I was decently-equipped, so it's not like I desperately needed it, but knowing I missed something in plain sight is just the worst.
    In any case, the game at least has super cool summon attacks. Man, how I wish they would remake the Golden Sun games for a modern console, just so that I could see all the summons in glorious, next-gen graphics!

  • @crazymog014
    @crazymog014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love kbash videos so much I have no idea why. His calm yet tempestuous commentary just awakens something primal in me.

  • @sonicfraisheya4028
    @sonicfraisheya4028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dad has blessed us with another gift.

  • @danielchavarria4692
    @danielchavarria4692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    K bash those golden videos are what got me into your channel I'm so happy you never quit.

  • @CassiDS
    @CassiDS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My main takeaway from this video is that a RPG that takes all the elements from its element system from the Periodic Table sounds like it'd kick ass.

  • @bee-zeesoul1018
    @bee-zeesoul1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video as always. And I actually gagged hard when you drank that concoction.

  • @MrHellohorse
    @MrHellohorse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really glad to see you stuck with it because those videos made me subscribe. The qaility of content was, and is, so good, and you continuously show why you are one of my favorite TH-camrs. Keep up the good work, and.......KRADEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!

  • @zapsta3000
    @zapsta3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I'm glad you didn't quit. I came in watching your Riviera review just randomly on my way to work, and I've stayed ever since. Keep grinding dude!!!!

  • @Enidx10
    @Enidx10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit, my dude. I LITERALLY discovered your channel this morning and went through all of your reviews, basically wasting my entire morning (worth it) and this comes out. Calculated.

  • @tiagocosmos
    @tiagocosmos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did i miss this video on my notifications?!!? KBash dragging Golden Sun is literally why I subscribed (I have a bit of a love/hate thing with Golden Sun myself). I didn't play this one because I couldn't finish GS The Lost Age (the less I say about what I think about it, the better... i'll leave it at that) and I doubt I ever will. Thank you KBash for this delightful video.

  • @cyrus2395
    @cyrus2395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yessss! I've watched the original videos four times at least, I've been waiting for this for so long

  • @dreadwaters7898
    @dreadwaters7898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found you not to long ago and the heart you put into your content hooked me. Keep up the good work

  • @DarkstalkerZero
    @DarkstalkerZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another excellent review! I personally liked the ending of the lost age and thought they would continue on with dark dawn. But sadly that doesn't seem to be the case. The most interesting character in the series is "The Wise One". And I don't think it really shows up in the game.

    • @troyschramii4828
      @troyschramii4828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wasn't that just slang / an alias for kraden?

  • @jesus123lozano
    @jesus123lozano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One hospital visit later?
    You mean to tell me they actually let you in? :-)

  • @TheJose2343
    @TheJose2343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Years ago I had a very bad case of depression, and could not distract myself for even a second, I had trouble even sleeping. As I started to look for things to help me alongside with therapy, I went back to play the classics of my childhood, including Golden Sun 1 and 2, and for some reason those games helped a lot, like a switch turned off and for the first time in a long time I could relax, after I finished both games and went after Dark Dawn which I remember I only played once before, and that game helped me the most, I really can't explain why I was just relaxing and a great time for me even with all it's flaws, that's why no matter what it holds a very special place in my heart.

  • @pikaboom6539
    @pikaboom6539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow…Kbash just made me realized that Golden Sun was like that ex that made you think there was love in the relationship before everything went to shit…but in reality…there was never any love at all. It was…the perfect illusion 😳

  • @ragnarok9899
    @ragnarok9899 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed the writing and delivery in this review. Laughed a lot. Good job!

  • @ashdust9832
    @ashdust9832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    you ever gonna do a video on the summon knight swordcraft story games?
    yeah I know the third one is japanese only but I really liked these games

    • @luvlybaluga
      @luvlybaluga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YOOOOOOOOOOO... a summon knight FAN. I LOVE YOU.

    • @aquanaridllcl970
      @aquanaridllcl970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They restarted translation.

    • @ashdust9832
      @ashdust9832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aquanaridllcl970 for real? then there's still hope

    • @luvlybaluga
      @luvlybaluga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashdust9832 Yea Im in the discord. The 3rd is gonna be finally translated, and when it finishes I can replay all three again. My favorite GBA games next to Boktai's and Golden Suns and Aria of Sorrow of course and the Battlenet games before they got ruined with the dumb FPS style combat they changed to in the last (I WONDER WHY) installments.

    • @blazingsamurai89
      @blazingsamurai89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SUMMON KNIGHT FANDOM UNITE

  • @Coreisus
    @Coreisus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how you have the sound of the portal sucking you up from Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy when you're drinking that concoction.

  • @kuriburger
    @kuriburger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm going to be honest, I really enjoyed the GS series and still do, it's very near and dear to my heart but yeah there's definitely some flaws and stuff, especially in Dark Dawn.
    The OG cast (except for Isaac, Garet, Alex and Kraden) are only mentioned but we got to see four side characters from the first two games? I kind of hoped that they'd be a sequel and we'd see the og cast but it's probably never going to happen.

  • @simondg42
    @simondg42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my fav games of all time❤️
    So emotional and a wonderful story 🙏🏼
    It is so damn sad that there are no more Golden Sun's Games...

  • @rinkusan978
    @rinkusan978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a huge GS fan that was annoyed to recognise the flaws (besides the plot) in the first two games, I still happily clicked on this video. It's always good to be grounded in your perspective on things (though I always had massive issues with DD since I first played it).
    Something I grasped in this video was exactly why the battle system is problematic (the only thing I thought I was going to fight you over in the comments). I agree, they really need to mesh together the djinn and psynergy systems better. Before my biggest complaint was that just attacking with your weapons sufficed well in battles.
    Something to share with you and others though:
    The development team that worked on Dark Dawn and the first two games are mostly different. I remember reading discussions back in the day explaining some development issues within, the new team being unfamiliar with how to execute the original vision of Golden Sun and this being a complication behind making a fourth Golden Sun game.
    Also: Glad to hear you survived the crash and are okay from what it seems.

  • @yoyofun1
    @yoyofun1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say I've watched this channel since the early days and its always been top notch

  • @BashoStrikes
    @BashoStrikes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As far as Golden Sun is concerned I would have probably agreed with your assessment back at the turn of the century when I originally played it. I just finished it again on an Advance SP and loved it. It's beautiful.

  • @covershopkid
    @covershopkid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished my golden sun playthrough for my channel. Always knew this game series was my favorite, can’t wait to get to number 2! Hoping number 4 is announced anytime ever!!

  • @Blaze-mt4ij
    @Blaze-mt4ij 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hey personally I love your new and your old way of doing things and think that you have one of the best channels on youtube. Honestly way better than more popular channels in my dumbass opinion

  • @pinkfear29
    @pinkfear29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video. Keep it up Kbash ^~^

  • @hitagi8308
    @hitagi8308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that intro is true artistic dedication. bravo

  • @itsaguy6728
    @itsaguy6728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was 8 I got this game without knowing it was a trilogy. Needless to say I was confused what was happening 24/7.
    Also I was a illiterate kid back then and I had no idea what was happening, I even have the guidebook and I still didn't know what was happening.

  • @VisoredKuzu
    @VisoredKuzu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the first two golden sun games the simplicity is often welcomed when most jrpgs have complicated mechanics and systems you need to memorize guess I have short memory for stuff like these.

  • @MrDarksol
    @MrDarksol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least they finally fixed the Psynergy rock problem but that damn cliffhanger.......oof.

  • @caiomesquita268
    @caiomesquita268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man I was love If you made a video on the breath of fire series (although it would be pretty similar to the mana ones) keep up the good work

  • @solidskullz5736
    @solidskullz5736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Golden sun needs a remaster, such an underrated series

    • @MegamiShin
      @MegamiShin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A remaster? KBash argued for a re-DOING. With how basic a lot of it is and the wealth of squandered ideas, I agree.

    • @Badhealthcare
      @Badhealthcare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's like using the finest sourced Italian clay for a 2nd grade art project. Except mom still uses that damn thing because you're still her precious little boy.

  • @ChoiceSnarf
    @ChoiceSnarf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There's a mod for Golden Sun 1 and 2 called Reloaded that I think fixes a lot of your problems with the combat. Maybe give it a try?

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    20:50 yeah
    I remember joking to myself Rief was embracing The Dark Side while I never used him for most of the game! XD

    • @floralgod2399
      @floralgod2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣😂🤣😂 he’s actually pretty good once you get him to Paragon or Angel definitely usueful in summon/boss battles

  • @wolffster25
    @wolffster25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember wanting a sequel solely so I could have a boss fight against Alex he is like Wesker in that respect. Yeah Dark Dawn is very lacking I remember steamrolling the game its no wonder Camelot has not made another rpg in a long time. Perhaps instead of another Golden Sun I’m kinda hoping for a whole new original rpg from them that would be the best direction to take in the long run.

    • @Magitek1112
      @Magitek1112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still don't think Camelot deserved to be stuck making Mario sports games forever. RPGs were where they got their start, and even in their Mario sports games you can see their RPG trademarks. (partiualrly he RPG modes in the Game Boy games)

    • @newdawnhorizon9879
      @newdawnhorizon9879 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out beyond the beyond it's the first rpg game camelot made its for the ps one

  • @TheSkyfolk
    @TheSkyfolk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm having a dumb brain moment. I know the outro/patron readoff song so well I hum it all the time, but I can't place where it's from because I'm a huge idiot.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      First time?

    • @DrummerDucky
      @DrummerDucky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's Okami? Not sure.

  • @troyschramii4828
    @troyschramii4828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering where I knew this channel from, it all makes sense now.

  • @kyonkochan
    @kyonkochan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your content bruh. Keep up the fight. Love seeing other Canadians on TH-cam.

  • @hodlenbinglebutt1117
    @hodlenbinglebutt1117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really think that what golden sun is best at is being an introductory rpg. It's very basic, but just interesting enough to capture the imaginations of younger audiences looking to get into rpgs or enjoy a fantasy setting. It feels like they took this concept to an extreme here and just made everything handholdy and clunky, as if to capture that young audience while totally alienating and ignoring the older fans of the series or anyone who cares about decent story or solid game mechanics, and just waters itself down to the most brainless, nonsensical, and tedious thing possible in this game while keeping returning fans engaged only through the use of blatant nostalgia bait.

  • @Badhealthcare
    @Badhealthcare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice, DD was fun like eating a Snickers(tm), including the lie of having any substance.

  • @LinusVinnportlaced
    @LinusVinnportlaced 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is a gem, and deserves more views 💖

  • @TheMikerocks85
    @TheMikerocks85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found out about you on your original Golden Sun video. I have followed you since. The circle has become complete. God bless you Kbash.

  • @gansmith
    @gansmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Golden Sun simply became a series that refused to grow up while the genre did be it on story or turn based RPG mechanics. A ancient relic of a series in an era of turn based rpg innovation.

  • @shadou1234567
    @shadou1234567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you say "you are the idiot" at the end i just reminded myself of Kirito dub in SAO abridged when he starts monologing. Great work

  • @Mekcstriker
    @Mekcstriker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do the fairy fencer game and experience the hell that is the very very sudden realization mid game that you're gonna be in a grind fest in the dessert for a few days

  • @LinusVinnportlaced
    @LinusVinnportlaced 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel needs more love, Kbash is such a jem 🖤🖤

  • @Bikesponge730
    @Bikesponge730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the review we’ve all been waiting for

  • @derpynerdy6294
    @derpynerdy6294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Golden sun dark dawn had better character fleshing out than both previous games but man they are bad at villains and execution.

  • @DamianSabre
    @DamianSabre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You've finally done it. You mad lad.

  • @drvegapunk3299
    @drvegapunk3299 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That drink was insane my boy

  • @intelligenceparadigm4931
    @intelligenceparadigm4931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tbh I always loved this game but by the time I got to it I had played so many JRPGs I was just used to the dialogue and the systems. I still think the Djinn system is awesome, and also, beating the secret bosses at only lv40 or so was *amazing* because it really forced me to learn exactly how all the battles work and how to survive

  • @dynamiczero
    @dynamiczero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'VE WAITED 3000 YEARS FOR THIS

  • @ihavemydignity
    @ihavemydignity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey kbash great vid as usual. hope you talk bout suikoden one day!

  • @ln5321
    @ln5321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    God, I played this when it first released and I can't remember a damn thing about it other than "there's light and dark synergy now lel." And I like Golden Sun, so this game was incredibly forgettable.

  • @Cindolintoe
    @Cindolintoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really don't get how I can agree with everything you're saying and still love this series. Can the concept, art style, and music really carry my nostalgia that much?

  • @dandimensions8897
    @dandimensions8897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not gonna lie kbash the stuff you put yourself through really deserves more subs.

  • @LevinSety
    @LevinSety 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    KBash I love you and I love seeing you do Golden Sun again 💖

  • @jefferyjefejeffy
    @jefferyjefejeffy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh my god, oh my god, oh my God!!! Its here mom! Its heeeree

  • @perryborn2777
    @perryborn2777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember fucking loving this game years ago. I remember having a ton of fun with this, though when I finally beat the final boss my game crashed and I wasn't able to finish him off a second time.
    Truly a shame

  • @caladhunt4860
    @caladhunt4860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've only played this game out of the series, and as i was in second grade when i played it i hold it near and dear to my heart. However, watching someone rip its many flaws apart is so much fun.

  • @poopikins
    @poopikins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the very least, the visuals for the battles look great 👍

  • @ellobodehielo
    @ellobodehielo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually really liked your Golden Sun reviews. Sure, they were kind of crude and some of the criticisms like the easy riddles can be equally applied to Final Fantasy games, where the most complex solution is usually pushing a rock around or pressing a button.
    But most people only ever gush over how awesome the game is, while you brought up some actually valid criticisms. It's the reason I subscribed and I haven't regretted it since.

  • @don_shoti804
    @don_shoti804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you safe and sound Chief

  • @heinokunzelmann8967
    @heinokunzelmann8967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I remember playing that game and even as a stupid kid I realized that the subplots just kept piling with no over-arching payoff in sight. I just gave up sometime after the big darkness thingy showed up. Turns out I had just a few more hours of game left, oh well...

  • @malakai_adam
    @malakai_adam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That intro was insane

  • @Kozymeisteryt
    @Kozymeisteryt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kbash I love your videos keep up the good work.

  • @JetWolfEX
    @JetWolfEX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Camelot and by extension Sega software planning were almost always like this.
    The best things about their games was the visuals and art style, but they never could write characters or plot that well. Golden sun 1 and 2 were good but I think the flaws became harder to overlook as the series continued.
    Looking back (besides the main Shining Force series which still holds up) I think Shining Holy Ark is their best RPG, it doesn't have much exposition, and has the self awareness to just be a simple RPG without trying to be something it's not.

  • @nabari7201
    @nabari7201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Largest Golden Sun collector & fan greenmanaman here wanting to share a fun fact I've never seen mentioned before. You can actually level up to lvl 99 in about 40 minutes right before the final boss battling the grunts alone. It destroyed the super boss lvl grind I loved about TLA.

  • @awesome19ssbb
    @awesome19ssbb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i legit was watching your other videos only to be told that you upload this

  • @sarahtelles1931
    @sarahtelles1931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a personal challenge where I play a new file after a while to see how much I can remember on Djinn, Summon locations and such

  • @backlogrob8358
    @backlogrob8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This hurt all over again.

  • @Cybermage10
    @Cybermage10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jesus dude that was brutal

  • @justinbarrette9160
    @justinbarrette9160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The day of reckoning has come.

  • @cliftonsargent1572
    @cliftonsargent1572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man the last Golden sun video got intense