Ah memories, my dad had one that I used when I was a teenager, I'm only 36. Ours had a little cart with a seat that attached to it, made it into a riding mower. Cool!
I pick one up on Ebay (all original & near mint, except for the pealing paint) about 2 years ago (after my earlier comment from 3 years ago). It is a 1973 model according to the model / serial number. It is equipped with a 9 hp cast iron Briggs, model 233... which replaced the 9 hp model 23 Briggs. So they were build from the 40's till sometime in the 70's. It also came with the riding sulky attachment.
+trace donovan That's hard to say. Kinda depends what part of the country you're in, as to buyer proximity, etc. Does it have the transmission with Reverse ? Mine does. If you were close to me, I might be interested. I'm in NW AR.
@ClassicTVMan1981X Yes, you are correct, it's a 243431. Put out gobs of torque. I need to replace the cord on top that attaches the lever to the engage pulley for the blade drive, someone took it off in the past and put a piece of wire on it, but that won't work. Needs to be a non-flexing chain. And the nut for the adjustment for the blade height adjustment is rusted/frozen in place, so a trip to my neighborhood garage is in order to get that freed up.
Good luck, if you still have this machine today! About the 243431, may I ask what the type and code numbers are, please? Example: Model 243431, Type 0020-01, Code 6710101
Boy I like to find one like that I had from the neighbor the complete Toro Powerhandle system then after my parents died and was save in the garage up on a large shelf my brother took all and dumpster to a metal scrapper for $150 funny thing Toro was going to buy the whole thing for $2300 I not spoken to them since
the power handle was an interesting concept, it came with a 3hp briggs engine with a cast iron sleeved bore/ aluminum block. they were popular in the 1960's, and today are very hard to find.
it sure is with a 2 quart oil cap., . to break down the mod.#" 24 "is the cubic inch displacement, "3" refers to the basic engine design series. "4" refers to horizontal shaft" ,flo- jet" carb, with mechanical governor. "3" refers to ball bearing mains/ flange mounting, and splash lubrication. "1" refers to rope starting
I have one with the removable cart, it works great for my yard. I am missing the belt cover and the gear lever is broken. I can't seem to find a good service shop that is familiar with this type out here in Southern California...any options of service from anyone?
I don't "think" this motor was ever replaced. Looks original to me. I have had three of these mowers now, all have had the 243431 motor. But Toro made this mower for a long time, well into the 60's, so it's not surprising to see them with various motor setups. This is a 60's model, I'm pretty sure.
that came with an 8H.P. MOD. 23, briggs engine with the magna- matic ignition system when it left the factory, and these mowers were made until 1978 with a 32 inch cut, and went into production in 1946 by the whirlwind mower company( before TORO bought them out), who also used WISCONSIN mod. AKN series engines.
there is only one real way to find out if this is the original engine, and that is to look at the engine date code number. it is the last set of numbers("CODE") the first 2 numbers are the year, the next 2 numbers are the month, the next 2 numbers are the day, and the last 2 numbers are the hour built. TORO would get their engine deliveries in the fall/winter( in this case 1966) when they are building grass cutting equipment for the next grass cutting season. they build snow removal equipment in the spring/ summer months.
They originally came with either a Cast Iron Briggs model 23 (9hp) or a Wisconsin (probably of similar hp). If it's got the 10hp 243431 Briggs, I'd say the original engine was probably replaced sometime over the years, being that these things were built from the 40's to the early 50's that wouldn't be a surprise. The ones built in the 40's had an even smaller 3hp (?) & 6hp Briggs (pre 9hp model 23).
the unit that came with the WISCONSIN engine( 6 H.P. mod. AKN SERIES) was a "WHIRLWIND mower",25 inch cut, before TORO bought out the WHIRLWIND company..
Oh no! The rope broke and came off in your hand! AND - I would say you better get busy and replace ALL of those safety-warning decals. Otherwise I'm calling OSHA right now!
nope!!!!!!, not the same engine!!!!!!. the mod. 19" is in the same engine family as the mod. 20/23 cast iron engines with a 3 inch bore. the mod. 24 has a 3.0625 bore
@gregoryclemen1870 reply on a 10 year old comment? It's still the same engine family as the 14/19/23. The bore/stroke and deck height may be different, but the valves, carburetors, bearing plates, and general block design is all the same for the newer cast iron I/C units. Same size oil pan and crank so they can interchange with ease.
@@baymechanic1009 briggs always built their engines with the same parts, this cuts down on inventory of parts needed to build engines. the cast iron series engines are no longer in production. the cranks will be different from the mod. series 19,20,23( mod. 14 is a different engine family) having a different rod journal throw to change the stroke of the engine, even though the bore size is the same. I did change a mod. 233431 to a 243431, going from a 3 inch bore to a 3.0615 inch bore due to the cylinder being bored .030 over size and worn out. when I ordered the piston assy.I noticed that the piston pin bore in the new piston was smaller, so I ordered a new connecting rod and piston pin. when I installed the piston/ rod, I was hit again with another problem, the rod journal was smaller on the existing crank , so I had to order a new crankshaft, so internal engine parts will not work when going from one displacement size to another.
I want a '60s mower. Something with a tough sounding motor like that, and a deck with "teeth" on the front. Seems like a lot of mowers back then were designed that way. Where do I look?
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They steered really heavy.Good exercise
they were known as "MAN KILLERS"!!!!!, I collect these machines.
Ah memories, my dad had one that I used when I was a teenager, I'm only 36. Ours had a little cart with a seat that attached to it, made it into a riding mower. Cool!
Wow what a timeless piece and still in great condition as well
I pick one up on Ebay (all original & near mint, except for the pealing paint) about 2 years ago (after my earlier comment from 3 years ago). It is a 1973 model according to the model / serial number. It is equipped with a 9 hp cast iron Briggs, model 233... which replaced the 9 hp model 23 Briggs. So they were build from the 40's till sometime in the 70's. It also came with the riding sulky attachment.
+trace donovan $60 & a trip to IL to pick it up.
+trace donovan That's hard to say. Kinda depends what part of the country you're in, as to buyer proximity, etc. Does it have the transmission with Reverse ? Mine does. If you were close to me, I might be interested. I'm in NW AR.
They were made in the USA until the late 1980s.
These are cool. It’s running good. I’ve only seen one before yours. I want one in my collection
@ClassicTVMan1981X Yes, you are correct, it's a 243431. Put out gobs of torque. I need to replace the cord on top that attaches the lever to the engage pulley for the blade drive, someone took it off in the past and put a piece of wire on it, but that won't work. Needs to be a non-flexing chain. And the nut for the adjustment for the blade height adjustment is rusted/frozen in place, so a trip to my neighborhood garage is in order to get that freed up.
Good luck, if you still have this machine today!
About the 243431, may I ask what the type and code numbers are, please?
Example: Model 243431, Type 0020-01, Code 6710101
Boy I like to find one like that I had from the neighbor the complete Toro Powerhandle system then after my parents died and was save in the garage up on a large shelf my brother took all and dumpster to a metal scrapper for $150 funny thing Toro was going to buy the whole thing for $2300 I not spoken to them since
the power handle was an interesting concept, it came with a 3hp briggs engine with a cast iron sleeved bore/ aluminum block. they were popular in the 1960's, and today are very hard to find.
And that 10 hp engine is all iron. Model 243431 if I recall rightly.
it sure is with a 2 quart oil cap., . to break down the mod.#" 24 "is the cubic inch displacement, "3" refers to the basic engine design series. "4" refers to horizontal shaft" ,flo- jet" carb, with mechanical governor. "3" refers to ball bearing mains/ flange mounting, and splash lubrication. "1" refers to rope starting
I have one with the removable cart, it works great for my yard. I am missing the belt cover and the gear lever is broken. I can't seem to find a good service shop that is familiar with this type out here in Southern California...any options of service from anyone?
I don't "think" this motor was ever replaced. Looks original to me. I have had three of these mowers now, all have had the 243431 motor. But Toro made this mower for a long time, well into the 60's, so it's not surprising to see them with various motor setups. This is a 60's model, I'm pretty sure.
that came with an 8H.P. MOD. 23, briggs engine with the magna- matic ignition system when it left the factory, and these mowers were made until 1978 with a 32 inch cut, and went into production in 1946 by the whirlwind mower company( before TORO bought them out), who also used WISCONSIN mod. AKN series engines.
there is only one real way to find out if this is the original engine, and that is to look at the engine date code number. it is the last set of numbers("CODE") the first 2 numbers are the year, the next 2 numbers are the month, the next 2 numbers are the day, and the last 2 numbers are the hour built. TORO would get their engine deliveries in the fall/winter( in this case 1966) when they are building grass cutting equipment for the next grass cutting season. they build snow removal equipment in the spring/ summer months.
They originally came with either a Cast Iron Briggs model 23 (9hp) or a Wisconsin (probably of similar hp). If it's got the 10hp 243431 Briggs, I'd say the original engine was probably replaced sometime over the years, being that these things were built from the 40's to the early 50's that wouldn't be a surprise. The ones built in the 40's had an even smaller 3hp (?) & 6hp Briggs (pre 9hp model 23).
the unit that came with the WISCONSIN engine( 6 H.P. mod. AKN SERIES) was a "WHIRLWIND mower",25 inch cut, before TORO bought out the WHIRLWIND company..
Could use the paint spruced upi love
A friend on mine has one of these with a Wisconsin ACND, rated at 6.0hp
Will you please show your machine mowing one day?
Very cool. I have two, you still have the original belt guard and front cover! one of mine has the Briggs the other a wisconsin. Both have the sulky.
Not sure, but this mower looks like the green mowers used in Pa. in the 1950's on roadsides.
Trace, if you come up with a price for both your Whirlwinds, let me know & we'll see what we can work out ?
@ThomasFMPayne: Ye gads! You're right. It's a hazard! I'm on it... lol
Oh no! The rope broke and came off in your hand! AND - I would say you better get busy and replace ALL of those safety-warning decals. Otherwise I'm calling OSHA right now!
Also, can you send me some pictures of them ?
23 i meen
243431 in rality its a newer model birggs 19
nope!!!!!!, not the same engine!!!!!!. the mod. 19" is in the same engine family as the mod. 20/23 cast iron engines with a 3 inch bore. the mod. 24 has a 3.0625 bore
@gregoryclemen1870 reply on a 10 year old comment? It's still the same engine family as the 14/19/23. The bore/stroke and deck height may be different, but the valves, carburetors, bearing plates, and general block design is all the same for the newer cast iron I/C units. Same size oil pan and crank so they can interchange with ease.
@@baymechanic1009 briggs always built their engines with the same parts, this cuts down on inventory of parts needed to build engines. the cast iron series engines are no longer in production. the cranks will be different from the mod. series 19,20,23( mod. 14 is a different engine family) having a different rod journal throw to change the stroke of the engine, even though the bore size is the same. I did change a mod. 233431 to a 243431, going from a 3 inch bore to a 3.0615 inch bore due to the cylinder being bored .030 over size and worn out. when I ordered the piston assy.I noticed that the piston pin bore in the new piston was smaller, so I ordered a new connecting rod and piston pin. when I installed the piston/ rod, I was hit again with another problem, the rod journal was smaller on the existing crank , so I had to order a new crankshaft, so internal engine parts will not work when going from one displacement size to another.
I want a '60s mower. Something with a tough sounding motor like that, and a deck with "teeth" on the front. Seems like a lot of mowers back then were designed that way. Where do I look?