It's impossible.....Iowa's defense would give up 50 under Lincoln Riley. Casuals can't seem to understand the basic problem. 2 minute offenses always get their defenseless wore the fuck out. You might get a stop on third down and force a punt.....but then in 2 minutes your defense is back out there, tired and unable to make.in game adjustments. It's called the Texas Tech problem and has been known for 20+ years.
Some people criticized for crying after the game, but Caleb Williams cares! He tried his best to carry the team on his shoulders to get a win, with no help from the coaching staff. If USC had ANY kind of a defense, then scoring 42 points would result in a win. However, USC just has a defensive coordinator who makes sure that each week's opponent can score as many points as that opponent wishes. In spite of the disastrous results on defense, Alex Grinch refuses to change what he is doing (perhaps he doesn't know anything else), and Lincoln Riley also refuse to make any changes (perhaps he doesn't know anything else). If the critics were the quarterback under these unbelievably stressful circumstances and you are giving it your all -- because you desperately want you team to win -- while your coaching staff does nothing to help, and you are seeing your NFL career slowly sinking, then you would probably react the same way Caleb Williams reacted. Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Nobody who is criticizing Caleb Williams can play at his elite level at his age.
Great point about USC needing a better defense to offset the offense. Some of the best teams have good enough offense but amazing defense that wins championships.
Why this softball analysis on Alex Grinch. Alex Grinch failed Caleb. Lincoln Riley failed Caleb. This is on Lincoln Riley! He is not a good head coach if he can’t see big picture. Every weekend good defensive players look confused, unorganized, and soft. That is not fair to those hard working athletes giving it their all trying to win a championship. Complete disaster of a season and tbh the offense was covered up so much by Caleb. Oline was subpar, Wr’s didn’t create separation consistently. This is on Riley and his horrible ego. How are you more aggressive with reporters and officials than you are with players and coaches. This is football and players and coaches need to be aggressive, it’s the only way for success in this sport. Sad that Riley failed multiple elite level quarterbacks this bad. When he’s leaves USC and fails as NFL head coach then tries to repair his career as an OC in the SEC(probably Georgia 😅) he’ll realize his stubbornness/ego UNNECESSARILY cost him multiple national championships at prime schools (SC/Oklahoma). And yes I’m projecting his future cause we LA fans can be very toxic and is his stubborn attitude towards criticism will run you out of town. I get it nobody’s perfect but being stubborn and sensitive is such a turnoff in any personality. People will deal with it if you have all the answers and results to back it up but Riley clearly doesn’t when it comes to winning championships. Like where’s your self awareness?! Geez 😞. I guess Riley really loved Mike Leach (RIP 🙏🏽) so much he chose to replicate his whole career. I thought Riley was more of the Spurrier type with at least enough conscious to realize defense matters to squeak out one national championship, but man being okay with this level of defense for SIX YEARS at two blue bloods is egregious level incompetence. I know it’s just sports but this is so frustrating cause it’s unnecessary. But I’m not making the big bucks and can only hope for better. Sincerely, -Sad SC fan
Yall kill me with this generational talent business! He's just the dude getting all the hype. There are a lot of good quarterbacks that are just as good. Media just hyping this dude up.
Alex Grinch has the players out of position on several plays but the elephant in the room is USC is not recruiting Physicality on the Defensive end of the team - simply put the linebackers and DBs are not big enough, strong enough, physical enough to stop or limit the run. How are U going to get good DB run support with a 6'3" 180 lb Safety when Georgia has the same Safety at 6'3" 215 lbs
What I see with USC is the same I see with TCU and even Wash. They are finesse teams and while they can finesse themselves to death against each other, when they meet a slobber-knocking team who can play just as well but add in that extra "punch to the face" they fall apart. TCU last year is a great example. I remember my Gators playing Nebraska in ... 1995? ... and the "old ball coach" could fling it all over the field but when Nebraska hit them in the mouth they folded. USC needs to keep their current level of finesse while at the same time learning to play smash mouth while they're doing it. I'm looking at you defense.
Washington is not a playoff team, their defense is awful. They are like usc team from last year. Good offense, bad defense. They'll get ripped apart by a good team either by oregon or a sec/big ten team.
This is a bad take: It's not hard to do the research: 1. The best defense Grinch has had in the last 7 years was ranked #60. SEVEN SEASONS is a pattern not an outlier. His two seasons at USC the Defense has ranked #109 on avg. What does being in the locker room have to do with facts? 2. Grinch desides the 5 W's Who, what, where, when and why. So he's 💯 responsible for the outcome. Why is Barrs on the bench and not lined up next to Alexander giving the DL a 1-2 punch? 3. The roster was his choice. After the 2022 season, even a blind man could see the secondary was poor. He elected to go with the same group this season. Bringing in just 4 new guys. 2 TF and 2 TP guys (Cristian Roland-walace and Fegans). He doesn't trust the TF or Fegans. So he ended up with just 1 upgrade player. They needed 4 or 5. How do you reconcile this other than poor evaluation skills. This same group is almost exactly in the same spot they were last year statistically. So bringing back the same group gave you the same result? 😂 3. He brought in massive 300 lb Barrs and Alexander and then benched Barrs (a starter at Az) in favor of a smaller 270 lb back up DL player. Making the defense smaller with less experience. 4. The dude plays nickel defense on the goal line? In fact he's in nickel alot. Essentially puting more players from the weakest group of the defense on the field. It was a comedy of errors. The real question is that Lincoln Riley couldn't see any of this? A 10 million dollar man should have better insight. Hopefully he learns from this.
Truth, Usc has been so overrated for these past 2 years , every time i seen Usc rsnked like that I'd laugh . Even before they played Utah ladt year i said Usc is in big trouble and they were , me I think that they will bounce back against Oregon ducks , some people laughed at me i said why not , Usc is a good team.
USC will be a 7-5 team by the end of the regular season, the final losses will be to Oregon and UCLA. We will likely go to a minor bowl and face a 9-3 Group of Five team, after which we will end the season as a 7-6 team. Our coaching staff is not making any adjustments to our schemes, at least if what they say in interviews is to be believed, perhaps they are not capable of it.
I wouldn’t touch that kid with a 40’ pole, if I was NFL team, Cam Newton 2.0, just as defenders enjoyed crushing him, they will enjoy crushing fragile Caleb.
The media continuing to run cover for Caleb is predictable. Our society is so feminized at this point, a grown ass man weeping on his mom's shoulder is normal now.
Nothing to do with the players, it's all the on HC and DC. Players are not being developed right, secondaries on defense are lost every game, LBs are out of positions and etc. So much issues on defense and yet LR says "were getting there"🤣.
Both defenses were bad with high scoring offenses. Two CW mistakes i. e., WU was forced to 3 points, but no SC points. Generational CW with elite oline unmatched. Next 3 games, chances increase for Heisman. Great analysis! Suppose CW returns to SC
There were players out of position during the game while everyone else did their job. It is not all on Grinch inheriting players who just are not mentally or physically capable. Last season was a surprise doing as well as they did and loosing a very good O-Line and one of the best WRs Addison who called for double teams to open it for other WRs and made them look better than they are. But thats where Coaching comes in noticing and trying to adjust the weaknesses and strengths of your team. I am a Trojan Die Hard but I am also understanding that the Helton Era is still remnant. Its going to take longer than everyone wants and going to the BIG TEN will make it harder. Go Trojans Fight On.
That's not entirely true. The only player that Grinch inherited was Bullock and he's a potential All-American. All other starters are from the portal or came under his watch. This is truly who he wants out on the field.
Gotta get a real DC and a top-notch DL coach who can recruit as well as develop the recruited talent. On offense, need a capable OL coach who can also recruit & develop talent. Trojans have a huge built-in advantage by being able to recruit all of that high level SoCal talent, as well as a good portion of the regional talent that exists outside of SoCal, the Polynesian pipeline has been and could be again a valuable asset to a USC program that is clicking, running on all cylinders. Riley has to go get all of that or remain mediocre. 💯🤷🏼♂️
Mr. Pickle, I think you are looking at Alex Grinch is the perspective of a snapshot. Here he is at this moment and is it his fault? Let's broaden the picture and make it a movie over a period of time. As a Sooner fan, I watched Grinch for since he was hired as DC at OU. Riley took the Sooners to the playoffs twice. Once under Baker Mayfield and then under Kyler Murray./ We played Bama one year and Georgia the other. Both verry close games and botth were losses. Why? NO DEFENSIVE CAPABIL;ITIES.!!! The Sooners did it all on Offense. We saw Caleb crying post game. WE saw Baker Mayfield angry as hell at how the game went (defense opr lack thereof). Murray is much quieter and self controlled, but you can see the look on his face that says "Baker, you were right!!" Frankly, I have never seen a coach allow a turd to float in a punch bowl for such a long time. I know that it angered me when Riley (e call him Stinkin' Lincoln) sneaked out of Norman, OK, in the middle of the night, but I rejoiced to see Alex Grinch tag along with him. USC won't miss him, but just keep him out there and out of Oklahoma and surroundinn territories.
How many times at Oklahoma with Grinch at DC did the Sooners win games 45-35...giving up yards and points is what Grinch does. Lincoln Riley being loyal to him is admirable, but people that follow CFB have seen this story before. I think it's quite poetic that Caleb Williams left a place where if he had stayed, he could have actually won a natty.....just saying.
As a long time USC fan we need to utilize our TE more and really setup the run game a lot more. O-line needs to improve big time. Defensive scheme terrible, players need to be disciplined completely. I saw yet again in every game that Tackett played in he got jucked out his cleats so bad it was just hard to watch. DBs play to far off from the WR we playing 10 yards off them and giving up first downs. Too many defensive players out of position, can someone explain why Braylon Shelby and romello height have been in position at a hybrid LB chasing a RB or WR at times makes no sense
Riley did not care about defense at Oklahoma either, and now with a returning Heisman QB and a solid offense, who have a unranked team with probably 5 losses? For 2 years now, its been the same old story. To late as this season is over, and hopefully a split of the remaining games, to get back a shred of respect. Get a proven, hard nosed defensive coach, as you see entering a much tougher conference next year, with no Williams. Get ready coach!
I guess the only reason for USC FB members to keep playing is the NIL money that so many are receiving. And maybe that is part of the reason for the poor play of the defense (and questionable performances by the offense at times) ; it's no longer about personal pride or that of your school, it's all about the NIL money. My Brother-in-Law, who is a die hard USC alumnus, says the rumors regarding NIL money and performance have been widespread all season. And that does not exclude Caleb, who is raking in the cash when not playing, and without much effort. That is the capitalist way, and good on him and the others, but sad for the school (and fans). Meanwhile, Georgia and Alabama seem to keep marching on without such dilemma...
I doubt he is going to be the #1 overall pick in the draft! Current top 5 picks besides Arizona should they move on from Kyle Murray are not going to draft a QB! Not to mention Michael Pennix looked way better in last nights game. Caleb has proven to be ineffective vs top defenses who at most have 3-4 NFL worthy players. So how is he going to fair with NFL defenses??
He’s had like 3 or 4 seasons of the worst D in the country. You can say with certainty Grinch is not doing everything right and the he is not a good coordinator
By now, Grinch and Riley have lost their Defense Unit....Sad, given that Riley could have avoided it. The school has paid $110M+ for an elite head coach. They were entitled to him selecting an elite coaching staff.....Instead, the frist 2-3 seasons are going to be On The Job Training for Riley. Thats an expensive proposition....If Riley has an ounce of hubris and accountability, he will repair all the carnage, not only on defense, but any offensive, special teams, training conditioning, etc...Fight On!
Hi JD. 1st time I’ve tuned in. Appreciate your forthrightness and fresh perspectives. Only thing I’ll add is; Riley contributed to this with his own immature, unprofessional comments towards fans as “untrained” eyes. It’s OBVIOUS what the issues are and supporting your staff while they’re under fire is one thing, insulting the people asking questions that you can’t and don’t answer is another. Excellent point on needing better D in the future with Williams departure. Subscribed !
He says (the video maker) Washington has the best offense in the country next to USC? I think Oregon has the best offense, they won their games by the largest margins and numbers don't lie
I understand passion. That's one reason I love sports. I love CF. But what he did was over the top. It was like a 9 year old. Don't do that. I don't want my opponents, my rivals seeing that! Take it to the locker room man!! Some things are meant to be private
The sad truth is "you believing in Riley/Grinch week after week." Why? Now you decide to tell the truth when the evidenced proved after the SJSU game we'd have to score 60 pts to make it to Pac 12 Championship run. You have to much football knowledge to be sucking up to these coaches and players all year long. Fire Alex Grinch..."he's a mean one Mr. GRINCH"
He literally lost the game against Notre Dame. 3 picks…giving Notre Dame the short field to work with. The defense played decent in that game…Caleb did not. He is not a team player at all..he’s about himself. If he was a team player he wouldn’t have left his team in Oklahoma for the money. I can almost guarantee that if he would have stayed…a lot of players would have stayed as well and not only made a good run last year but this year they would be undefeated. It’s not always greener on the other side. He is not an NFL quarterback. Stop with the BS about a generation talent. He is not head and shoulders above the rest of the other top rated quarterbacks in college. The media will be saying that next year about someone else. He would be a waste of a number one pick.
I’m use to a Pete carrol style defense of being in the top 5 of every major defensive stat their is. the new AD needs to look for the right DC who can get the job done throw the money at him to get this team where it needs to be. Domani Jackson 5 star talent is being wasted as well as Zion branch lord
@@myaleroI watched him at Oklahoma and when Riley left us, Caleb stayed on for the bowl game to finish with his teammates, saying his not a team player is dumb as hell
The sad truth is "you (ON.3) believing in Riley/Grinch week after week." Why? Now you decide to tell the truth when the evidenced proved after the SJSU game we'd have to score 60 pts to make it to Pac 12 Championship run. You have to much football knowledge to be sucking up to these coaches and player all year long. Fire Alex Grinch..."he's a mean one Mr. GRINCH"
I think people don't understand. Even if USC beat Washington, they would have had to beat Oregon anyways, or hope that Washington lost a second game because Oregon only has one loss in conference. USC would have been tied with Oregon. It really hasn't changed. USC is in the same spot, if they win out they still go to the PAC 12.
On 3... I know as a Sooner fan I saw Caleb stay for the bowl game with interim Bob Stoops. He won, He could have left as for me as a Sooner fan I bear no ill will towards Caleb. God bless him, he is too young to bare the burden of this team, that rests with the head coach. Riley skipping practices feels eerily like OU in 2021, Riley is a liar and that is a fact that will continue to surface. Caleb placed his trust and care with Riley, Look Riley fired a national champion coach in Mike Stoops to say he could not coach is laughable. That def rests with the head coach and his lack of commitment, he could bring in Saban, if you limit def snaps in favor of offense no coord can survive that. Riley did not have the trust in the regents to get the money he wanted because Riley wanted to just outscore everyone. I feel bad for Caleb that young man has a great future ahead of him and it is not with Riley. Mo ones future is secured with that snake. Be a man Riley be at practice don't let a 20 21-year-old young man burden the failures of your philosophy. Riley is a piece of trash.
@@williamcaseywells604 that is ridiculous we know his history man, he can't even cure a bad BBQ brisket, shit he is from Texas, the analogy is absurd. We had his coaching for 5 years many of us don't believe in yellow brick roads. when you have dealt with him for 5 years losing to physical teams much less talented than yours... then and only then do I want to hear from a moron.
He was in his mommy's lap like a child. He wasn't crying with his teammates. I don't fault a dude for crying or showing emotion, and he has played his ass off for a coach who unfortunately lets him down. But, running to mommy and losing it is a little much. He is soft soft soft, with a giant ego and a poster boy for the participation trophy generation. Shame on On3 for not being more honest about that concerning behavior.
@@BimmaGyal-xb3sw at least none of us are crying like a bitch in mama’s lap on National TV. Dude needs to get a case of J&J no more tears shampoo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@serdsew there's multiple articles from actual active analyst saying he's very likely to fall from the number one pick in the draft which would in fact cause him to lose some money versus being the number one pick so I don't see how anything I said is hateful or a lie. I think he's an amazing college talent that has a decent chance of being good in the NFL but he's definitely played quite a bit worse this year than last that has led to the experts saying this and I also don't see where me living has to do with anything I could live in a hut in Afghanistan and it wouldn't take away from what I said.
Well WE been watching Him for the last 6yrs!! TRAAAAASH!!!! Okc/usc COLD TRASH! WASTED USC D COULD OF HELD TEAMS TO 24 POINTS. THEY WOULD OF WON EVERY GAME!! GRINCH AKA THE TRASH MAN! THE SAME D TCU WAS RUNNING IN THE NATTY & THAT GAME WAS TRASH!!
The problem isn’t just Alex Grinch, the problem looks to be conditioning. I saw plays where USC defenders was just out muscled and bullied, a lot of the runs the USC defenders opted to take a bad angle to run along side of the running back and tackle from the side rather than take him on head to head.
A tale of two quarterbacks . One gasping for oxygen while the other was cool calm and collected . This was a audition for a possible number one pick . 2 very different quarterbacks playing 2 very different offensive game plans .
It's not the defensive coordinator. It's a culture thing. USC is soft, PAC 12 is soft, really. USC hired a coach that is terrified of the SEC and competition. Hes never had a defense that was average and he is known to avoid superior competition like an average SEC defense 😂. There are no real Dawgs out west except for Washington and Oregon, but their well below the pedigree of Georgia, Alabama and LSU in the SEC. USC and Utah is about as good as Florida and Kentucky at best.
USC has been nothing but a carbon copy of what was at OU. USC should’ve seen this coming. Alex Grinch was a disaster then and still is now. Don’t put the blame on the product on the field, as you say. Alex Grinch created that product. You’re sugar coating what is the truth. He’s a disaster and has needed to move on since before moving to USC. The offense has had to be superb against cupcake/decent teams to make up for what the defense did. Out of position players and trash schemes do not win big games. It’s been that way since Riley fired Mike Stoops and later hired Grinch in 2019. Quit trying to be nice to the subscribers lol 😉
Alex Grinch is a Flag Football coach Who coaches USC defense. Fire Grinch now. Alex Grinch and his defense coaching staff is responsible for the development of each defense player on that team. Have they been developed??? Nope
Pair the iowa defense with the usc offense…that wuld be solid
Maybe USC should go after Iowa's Defensive Coordinator. 🤔
They would still underachieve. They have a culture of underachievement
Phil Parker is a Hawkeye for life
@@himom4276lol u have no idea how football works do u
It's impossible.....Iowa's defense would give up 50 under Lincoln Riley.
Casuals can't seem to understand the basic problem. 2 minute offenses always get their defenseless wore the fuck out. You might get a stop on third down and force a punt.....but then in 2 minutes your defense is back out there, tired and unable to make.in game adjustments.
It's called the Texas Tech problem and has been known for 20+ years.
Some people criticized for crying after the game, but Caleb Williams cares! He tried his best to carry the team on his shoulders to get a win, with no help from the coaching staff. If USC had ANY kind of a defense, then scoring 42 points would result in a win. However, USC just has a defensive coordinator who makes sure that each week's opponent can score as many points as that opponent wishes. In spite of the disastrous results on defense, Alex Grinch refuses to change what he is doing (perhaps he doesn't know anything else), and Lincoln Riley also refuse to make any changes (perhaps he doesn't know anything else). If the critics were the quarterback under these unbelievably stressful circumstances and you are giving it your all -- because you desperately want you team to win -- while your coaching staff does nothing to help, and you are seeing your NFL career slowly sinking, then you would probably react the same way Caleb Williams reacted. Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Nobody who is criticizing Caleb Williams can play at his elite level at his age.
Is this the same punk ass kid that talked trash to the TCU QB when he cried? Yet he's a bawling cry baby week after week? 😆 🤣 loving it.
Caleb has the top receivers with him. He ain't carrying the team by himself. USC need defense and better offensive line.
Well said!! Fight On ✌️
This is on Riley as much as Grinch
Great point about USC needing a better defense to offset the offense. Some of the best teams have good enough offense but amazing defense that wins championships.
FIRE RILEY!
He cried because he followed Riley to USC!
Good points
The Defense can’t stop the common cold gezz! 🤦🏾♂️
you try stoping that Washington offense! lmfao
@@yaboireagan5849they haven’t stopped anyone this year lol
With a Lincoln Riley led program. You can expect an offensive minded, soft team who doesn't take defense seriously
Now we know why Riley was sick last week 😂
Why this softball analysis on Alex Grinch. Alex Grinch failed Caleb. Lincoln Riley failed Caleb. This is on Lincoln Riley! He is not a good head coach if he can’t see big picture. Every weekend good defensive players look confused, unorganized, and soft. That is not fair to those hard working athletes giving it their all trying to win a championship. Complete disaster of a season and tbh the offense was covered up so much by Caleb. Oline was subpar, Wr’s didn’t create separation consistently. This is on Riley and his horrible ego. How are you more aggressive with reporters and officials than you are with players and coaches. This is football and players and coaches need to be aggressive, it’s the only way for success in this sport. Sad that Riley failed multiple elite level quarterbacks this bad. When he’s leaves USC and fails as NFL head coach then tries to repair his career as an OC in the SEC(probably Georgia 😅) he’ll realize his stubbornness/ego UNNECESSARILY cost him multiple national championships at prime schools (SC/Oklahoma). And yes I’m projecting his future cause we LA fans can be very toxic and is his stubborn attitude towards criticism will run you out of town. I get it nobody’s perfect but being stubborn and sensitive is such a turnoff in any personality. People will deal with it if you have all the answers and results to back it up but Riley clearly doesn’t when it comes to winning championships. Like where’s your self awareness?! Geez 😞. I guess Riley really loved Mike Leach (RIP 🙏🏽) so much he chose to replicate his whole career. I thought Riley was more of the Spurrier type with at least enough conscious to realize defense matters to squeak out one national championship, but man being okay with this level of defense for SIX YEARS at two blue bloods is egregious level incompetence. I know it’s just sports but this is so frustrating cause it’s unnecessary.
But I’m not making the big bucks and can only hope for better.
Sincerely,
-Sad SC fan
Alex grinch was the babysitter
Ding Dong the Grinch is gone!
How TF does Grinch have a job? Has he ever had a decent defense?
He just got fired!!
1 year in Oklahoma but you can probably attribute that to recruiting before he got there
Grinch fired
Yall kill me with this generational talent business! He's just the dude getting all the hype. There are a lot of good quarterbacks that are just as good. Media just hyping this dude up.
Alex Grinch has the players out of position on several plays but the elephant in the room is USC is not recruiting Physicality on the Defensive end of the team - simply put the linebackers and DBs are not big enough, strong enough, physical enough to stop or limit the run. How are U going to get good DB run support with a 6'3" 180 lb Safety when Georgia has the same Safety at 6'3" 215 lbs
What I see with USC is the same I see with TCU and even Wash. They are finesse teams and while they can finesse themselves to death against each other, when they meet a slobber-knocking team who can play just as well but add in that extra "punch to the face" they fall apart. TCU last year is a great example. I remember my Gators playing Nebraska in ... 1995? ... and the "old ball coach" could fling it all over the field but when Nebraska hit them in the mouth they folded. USC needs to keep their current level of finesse while at the same time learning to play smash mouth while they're doing it. I'm looking at you defense.
It all goes back to the o line. Last year o line was more physical
Caleb played in Oklahoma’s bowl game when a lot of his teammates sat out. No doubt he will finish the season. He really loves football.
Lmao if its bad for USC now wait until they hit the B1G next year where every team has a defense😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Washington is not a playoff team, their defense is awful. They are like usc team from last year. Good offense, bad defense. They'll get ripped apart by a good team either by oregon or a sec/big ten team.
Didn't Washington already beat Oregon?
@@cliffordhill2365due to Pac 12 refs and sub par kicking.
Rematch in the Pac 12 title will be fun.
I don't see any way USC would be in this game?
I mean they should’ve lost to ASU couple weeks ago but got bailed out by refs and poor inconsistent play by the offense
Washington defense is good enough but not great otherwise they wouldn’t be 9-0.
This is a bad take: It's not hard to do the research:
1. The best defense Grinch has had in the last 7 years was ranked #60. SEVEN SEASONS is a pattern not an outlier. His two seasons at USC the Defense has ranked #109 on avg. What does being in the locker room have to do with facts?
2. Grinch desides the 5 W's Who, what, where, when and why. So he's 💯 responsible for the outcome. Why is Barrs on the bench and not lined up next to Alexander giving the DL a 1-2 punch?
3. The roster was his choice. After the 2022 season, even a blind man could see the secondary was poor. He elected to go with the same group this season. Bringing in just 4 new guys. 2 TF and 2 TP guys (Cristian Roland-walace and Fegans). He doesn't trust the TF or Fegans. So he ended up with just 1 upgrade player. They needed 4 or 5. How do you reconcile this other than poor evaluation skills. This same group is almost exactly in the same spot they were last year statistically. So bringing back the same group gave you the same result? 😂
3. He brought in massive 300 lb Barrs and Alexander and then benched Barrs (a starter at Az) in favor of a smaller 270 lb back up DL player. Making the defense smaller with less experience.
4. The dude plays nickel defense on the goal line? In fact he's in nickel alot. Essentially puting more players from the weakest group of the defense on the field.
It was a comedy of errors. The real question is that Lincoln Riley couldn't see any of this? A 10 million dollar man should have better insight. Hopefully he learns from this.
Truth, Usc has been so overrated for these past 2 years , every time i seen Usc rsnked like that I'd laugh . Even before they played Utah ladt year i said Usc is in big trouble and they were , me I think that they will bounce back against Oregon ducks , some people laughed at me i said why not , Usc is a good team.
Y’all keep forgetting about Cam Newton what he did that last year with auburn was insane!
USC will be a 7-5 team by the end of the regular season, the final losses will be to Oregon and UCLA. We will likely go to a minor bowl and face a 9-3 Group of Five team, after which we will end the season as a 7-6 team. Our coaching staff is not making any adjustments to our schemes, at least if what they say in interviews is to be believed, perhaps they are not capable of it.
We ain’t losing ucla
OU fan here, Riley never made 2nd half adjustments. He would run the same plays, and seem surprised when the D adjusted.
@@jdizlle09 Sadly, the same thing has been happening at USC.
I wouldn’t touch that kid with a 40’ pole, if I was NFL team, Cam Newton 2.0, just as defenders enjoyed crushing him, they will enjoy crushing fragile Caleb.
The media continuing to run cover for Caleb is predictable. Our society is so feminized at this point, a grown ass man weeping on his mom's shoulder is normal now.
Nothing to do with the players, it's all the on HC and DC. Players are not being developed right, secondaries on defense are lost every game, LBs are out of positions and etc. So much issues on defense and yet LR says "were getting there"🤣.
Both defenses were bad with high scoring offenses. Two CW mistakes i. e., WU was forced to 3 points, but no SC points. Generational CW with elite oline unmatched. Next 3 games, chances increase for Heisman. Great analysis! Suppose CW returns to SC
There were players out of position during the game while everyone else did their job. It is not all on Grinch inheriting players who just are not mentally or physically capable. Last season was a surprise doing as well as they did and loosing a very good O-Line and one of the best WRs Addison who called for double teams to open it for other WRs and made them look better than they are. But thats where Coaching comes in noticing and trying to adjust the weaknesses and strengths of your team. I am a Trojan Die Hard but I am also understanding that the Helton Era is still remnant. Its going to take longer than everyone wants and going to the BIG TEN will make it harder. Go Trojans Fight On.
That's not entirely true. The only player that Grinch inherited was Bullock and he's a potential All-American. All other starters are from the portal or came under his watch. This is truly who he wants out on the field.
Gotta get a real DC and a top-notch DL coach who can recruit as well as develop the recruited talent. On offense, need a capable OL coach who can also recruit & develop talent. Trojans have a huge built-in advantage by being able to recruit all of that high level SoCal talent, as well as a good portion of the regional talent that exists outside of SoCal, the Polynesian pipeline has been and could be again a valuable asset to a USC program that is clicking, running on all cylinders. Riley has to go get all of that or remain mediocre. 💯🤷🏼♂️
Two of the nation's best high school DLs are on USC's front lawn. Sadly, too many of the players are getting recruited out of state. That has to stop.
@JohnHoulgate True. Also alot of the families of these top recruits want to get out of Cali
Gotta get the o line and d line shored up.
Mr. Pickle, I think you are looking at Alex Grinch is the perspective of a snapshot. Here he is at this moment and is it his fault? Let's broaden the picture and make it a movie over a period of time. As a Sooner fan, I watched Grinch for since he was hired as DC at OU. Riley took the Sooners to the playoffs twice. Once under Baker Mayfield and then under Kyler Murray./ We played Bama one year and Georgia the other. Both verry close games and botth were losses. Why? NO DEFENSIVE CAPABIL;ITIES.!!! The Sooners did it all on Offense. We saw Caleb crying post game. WE saw Baker Mayfield angry as hell at how the game went (defense opr lack thereof). Murray is much quieter and self controlled, but you can see the look on his face that says "Baker, you were right!!" Frankly, I have never seen a coach allow a turd to float in a punch bowl for such a long time. I know that it angered me when Riley (e call him Stinkin' Lincoln) sneaked out of Norman, OK, in the middle of the night, but I rejoiced to see Alex Grinch tag along with him. USC won't miss him, but just keep him out there and out of Oklahoma and surroundinn territories.
How many times at Oklahoma with Grinch at DC did the Sooners win games 45-35...giving up yards and points is what Grinch does. Lincoln Riley being loyal to him is admirable, but people that follow CFB have seen this story before. I think it's quite poetic that Caleb Williams left a place where if he had stayed, he could have actually won a natty.....just saying.
As a long time USC fan we need to utilize our TE more and really setup the run game a lot more. O-line needs to improve big time. Defensive scheme terrible, players need to be disciplined completely. I saw yet again in every game that Tackett played in he got jucked out his cleats so bad it was just hard to watch. DBs play to far off from the WR we playing 10 yards off them and giving up first downs. Too many defensive players out of position, can someone explain why Braylon Shelby and romello height have been in position at a hybrid LB chasing a RB or WR at times makes no sense
Dude offense is not the problem for usc …stop talking… it’s the defense, are you blind ?
Riley did not care about defense at Oklahoma either, and now with a returning Heisman QB and a solid offense, who have a unranked team with probably 5 losses? For 2 years now, its been the same old story. To late as this season is over, and hopefully a split of the remaining games, to get back a shred of respect. Get a proven, hard nosed defensive coach, as you see entering a much tougher conference next year, with no Williams. Get ready coach!
I guess the only reason for USC FB members to keep playing is the NIL money that so many are receiving. And maybe that is part of the reason for the poor play of the defense (and questionable performances by the offense at times) ; it's no longer about personal pride or that of your school, it's all about the NIL money. My Brother-in-Law, who is a die hard USC alumnus, says the rumors regarding NIL money and performance have been widespread all season. And that does not exclude Caleb, who is raking in the cash when not playing, and without much effort. That is the capitalist way, and good on him and the others, but sad for the school (and fans). Meanwhile, Georgia and Alabama seem to keep marching on without such dilemma...
UGA and Bama are not just looking for great players. They are looking for kids that buy into their system.
just too little too late!
I doubt he is going to be the #1 overall pick in the draft! Current top 5 picks besides Arizona should they move on from Kyle Murray are not going to draft a QB! Not to mention Michael Pennix looked way better in last nights game. Caleb has proven to be ineffective vs top defenses who at most have 3-4 NFL worthy players. So how is he going to fair with NFL defenses??
run that same defense for at least 1 more week. SCO Ducks!
Our D should have been better! Was it our lack of good players or bad schemes? Now a process of elimination and it starts with D cord...
Nick Saban, that's laughable😅 nick Saban is the guy that didn't accomplish what Pete carrol did, Saban is a coward
He’s had like 3 or 4 seasons of the worst D in the country. You can say with certainty Grinch is not doing everything right and the he is not a good coordinator
Ya Grinch is terrible as a DC but you have to lay some blame on Linky boy his recruiting is focused on offense and defense is a afterthought
By now, Grinch and Riley have lost their Defense Unit....Sad, given that Riley could have avoided it. The school has paid $110M+ for an elite head coach. They were entitled to him selecting an elite coaching staff.....Instead, the frist 2-3 seasons are going to be On The Job Training for Riley. Thats an expensive proposition....If Riley has an ounce of hubris and accountability, he will repair all the carnage, not only on defense, but any offensive, special teams, training conditioning, etc...Fight On!
If I’m Caleb Williams I’m considering coming back one more year with a different D coordinator
Hi JD. 1st time I’ve tuned in. Appreciate your forthrightness and fresh perspectives. Only thing I’ll add is; Riley contributed to this with his own immature, unprofessional comments towards fans as “untrained” eyes. It’s OBVIOUS what the issues are and supporting your staff while they’re under fire is one thing, insulting the people asking questions that you can’t and don’t answer is another. Excellent point on needing better D in the future with Williams departure. Subscribed !
He says (the video maker) Washington has the best offense in the country next to USC? I think Oregon has the best offense, they won their games by the largest margins and numbers don't lie
I understand passion. That's one reason I love sports. I love CF. But what he did was over the top. It was like a 9 year old. Don't do that. I don't want my opponents, my rivals seeing that! Take it to the locker room man!! Some things are meant to be private
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I am sooooooo happy that CW is distraught right now, he got everything he deserved which is only a heisman out of it.
The sad truth is "you believing in Riley/Grinch week after week." Why? Now you decide to tell the truth when the evidenced proved after the SJSU game we'd have to score 60 pts to make it to Pac 12 Championship run. You have to much football knowledge to be sucking up to these coaches and players all year long. Fire Alex Grinch..."he's a mean one Mr. GRINCH"
This seems to be a pattern starting at OU....Really hard to tell wth is going on...
Grinch,, don’t confuse efforts with results
Best way to get rid of Grinch is to get Rid of Lincoln Riley. 2 birds with 1 stone.
Caleb Williams is not a 1 of 1 qb. He needs an NIL from vagisil
😂😂😂😂😂😂
He literally lost the game against Notre Dame. 3 picks…giving Notre Dame the short field to work with. The defense played decent in that game…Caleb did not. He is not a team player at all..he’s about himself. If he was a team player he wouldn’t have left his team in Oklahoma for the money. I can almost guarantee that if he would have stayed…a lot of players would have stayed as well and not only made a good run last year but this year they would be undefeated. It’s not always greener on the other side. He is not an NFL quarterback. Stop with the BS about a generation talent. He is not head and shoulders above the rest of the other top rated quarterbacks in college. The media will be saying that next year about someone else. He would be a waste of a number one pick.
I’m use to a Pete carrol style defense of being in the top 5 of every major defensive stat their is. the new AD needs to look for the right DC who can get the job done throw the money at him to get this team where it needs to be. Domani Jackson 5 star talent is being wasted as well as Zion branch lord
Hurt to see Caleb like that. His dream was to win. He did all he could.
Caleb was no where to be found against Utah and Notre Dame losses
He is just for himself, he is NOT a team player. Never has been.
@@bobcatdrumsHis offensive line didn't show up in either of those games, so what is he supposed to do in that situation
@@myaleroI watched him at Oklahoma and when Riley left us, Caleb stayed on for the bowl game to finish with his teammates, saying his not a team player is dumb as hell
@@chronicles647 He stayed for his stats and his personal goals. He LEFT Oklahoma, so he LEFT his Sooner teams mates. Thank about it.
AD Jen Cohen should upper Lincoln Riley on ultimatum either you fired Grinch or I will but he got to go
The sad truth is "you (ON.3) believing in Riley/Grinch week after week." Why? Now you decide to tell the truth when the evidenced proved after the SJSU game we'd have to score 60 pts to make it to Pac 12 Championship run. You have to much football knowledge to be sucking up to these coaches and player all year long. Fire Alex Grinch..."he's a mean one Mr. GRINCH"
Lincoln Riley will not be at USC next year. He will be moving on.
We just are soft as a team and too bad we fell so short...The whole season...
I think people don't understand. Even if USC beat Washington, they would have had to beat Oregon anyways, or hope that Washington lost a second game because Oregon only has one loss in conference. USC would have been tied with Oregon. It really hasn't changed. USC is in the same spot, if they win out they still go to the PAC 12.
Yeah, but USC won't win the Pac 12 Championship if they play either Washington or Oregon.
@@cliffordhill2365 Grinch is gone
Lol, as long as Lincoln is there, Grinch will have a job (that's his boy).
@@cliffordhill2365 he was just fired
Are you saying that this loss sealed his fate or you're saying literally he was fired? (today).
#FailOn ✌️🤣
Lincoln can come back and be BVs OC lol Boomer!!
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He is good. Quit on OU and is reaping the spoiles. HA.
On 3... I know as a Sooner fan I saw Caleb stay for the bowl game with interim Bob Stoops. He won, He could have left as for me as a Sooner fan I bear no ill will towards Caleb. God bless him, he is too young to bare the burden of this team, that rests with the head coach. Riley skipping practices feels eerily like OU in 2021, Riley is a liar and that is a fact that will continue to surface. Caleb placed his trust and care with Riley, Look Riley fired a national champion coach in Mike Stoops to say he could not coach is laughable.
That def rests with the head coach and his lack of commitment, he could bring in Saban, if you limit def snaps in favor of offense no coord can survive that. Riley did not have the trust in the regents to get the money he wanted because Riley wanted to just outscore everyone. I feel bad for Caleb that young man has a great future ahead of him and it is not with Riley. Mo ones future is secured with that snake.
Be a man Riley be at practice don't let a 20 21-year-old young man burden the failures of your philosophy. Riley is a piece of trash.
Riley could cure cancer, and sooner fans would say he didn’t cure cancer “the right way”.
@@williamcaseywells604 that is ridiculous we know his history man, he can't even cure a bad BBQ brisket, shit he is from Texas, the analogy is absurd. We had his coaching for 5 years many of us don't believe in yellow brick roads. when you have dealt with him for 5 years losing to physical teams much less talented than yours... then and only then do I want to hear from a moron.
Riley is a joke, just like Kliff Kingsbury, they’re a match made at brooks brothers. Overpriced, overrated, and always will be
Ducks dropped 63 on Cal yesterday, they'll put up 60 on USC in Eugene next weekend. Bucky Irving is going to run for 300 yards on them.
It’s about the future building
They built this team by doing shady business. Karma is a bi'$h and so is LR.
He was in his mommy's lap like a child. He wasn't crying with his teammates. I don't fault a dude for crying or showing emotion, and he has played his ass off for a coach who unfortunately lets him down. But, running to mommy and losing it is a little much. He is soft soft soft, with a giant ego and a poster boy for the participation trophy generation. Shame on On3 for not being more honest about that concerning behavior.
He should get a NIL deal from a charmin, or Midol 😂
NIL from Clear Eyes to market the (Nautural Tears) line.
Coach potatoes criticizing someone who you aren’t even a fraction as good as on the field.
@@BimmaGyal-xb3sw at least none of us are crying like a bitch in mama’s lap on National TV. Dude needs to get a case of J&J no more tears shampoo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cant cry to momma in the NFL
he'll cry on his millions of dollars
@@DocNininihe's lost some of that NFL money this year for sure.
@@serdsew there's multiple articles from actual active analyst saying he's very likely to fall from the number one pick in the draft which would in fact cause him to lose some money versus being the number one pick so I don't see how anything I said is hateful or a lie. I think he's an amazing college talent that has a decent chance of being good in the NFL but he's definitely played quite a bit worse this year than last that has led to the experts saying this and I also don't see where me living has to do with anything I could live in a hut in Afghanistan and it wouldn't take away from what I said.
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So sick of these diva players, crying on the TV when they’re struggling. They have no backbone.
Well WE been watching Him for the last 6yrs!! TRAAAAASH!!!! Okc/usc COLD TRASH! WASTED USC D COULD OF HELD TEAMS TO 24 POINTS. THEY WOULD OF WON EVERY GAME!! GRINCH AKA THE TRASH MAN! THE SAME D TCU WAS RUNNING IN THE NATTY & THAT GAME WAS TRASH!!
The problem isn’t just Alex Grinch, the problem looks to be conditioning. I saw plays where USC defenders was just out muscled and bullied, a lot of the runs the USC defenders opted to take a bad angle to run along side of the running back and tackle from the side rather than take him on head to head.
Thats why you see the OU fans talking about the kettlebell workouts. They also dont tackle in practice. It makes a huge difference.
Washington QB didn't blame his defense
UTAH QB didn't blame his defense
Notre Dame QB didn't blame his defense
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Sooner fan seen your pain on the horizon 😂😂
Good luck trying to slow down the Ducks at Autzen
Weird take at best. Unsub…
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players talk about being even keeled...caleb need to work on that
A tale of two quarterbacks . One gasping for oxygen while the other was cool calm and collected . This was a audition for a possible number one pick . 2 very different quarterbacks playing 2 very different offensive game plans .
Caleb will get destroyed in the NFL. soft as hell
You know nothing about scouting the position if you believe he's going to be a bust... the most complete prospect at QB in decades
Facts, these folks know nothing about football
It's not the defensive coordinator. It's a culture thing. USC is soft, PAC 12 is soft, really. USC hired a coach that is terrified of the SEC and competition. Hes never had a defense that was average and he is known to avoid superior competition like an average SEC defense 😂.
There are no real Dawgs out west except for Washington and Oregon, but their well below the pedigree of Georgia, Alabama and LSU in the SEC. USC and Utah is about as good as Florida and Kentucky at best.
Think your perspective is wrong. Believe his emotional because he made a mistake following Lincol, knowing his DC was trash
Dude is a head case he wont make it in nfl at all
a lot of coping was done by this guy on the panel hate to say it
CW is a little girl crying to his mommy and daddy. Lol
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Calebs v-jay be bleeding
USC has been nothing but a carbon copy of what was at OU. USC should’ve seen this coming. Alex Grinch was a disaster then and still is now. Don’t put the blame on the product on the field, as you say. Alex Grinch created that product. You’re sugar coating what is the truth. He’s a disaster and has needed to move on since before moving to USC. The offense has had to be superb against cupcake/decent teams to make up for what the defense did. Out of position players and trash schemes do not win big games. It’s been that way since Riley fired Mike Stoops and later hired Grinch in 2019. Quit trying to be nice to the subscribers lol 😉
30 fumbles in his college career, definitely not something to be proud of. I can't see him being in the top 5 quarterbacks drafted.
He'll 100% be the #1 pick. It's not even a debate
@@orangeblood307 He's not in the top 5 odds to win.
@@serdsew He is not in the 5 best odds to win the Heisman, he could be 6th they only showed the top 5.
Today is a good day , Grinch is gone . 🔴🟡✌🏻
Alex Grinch is a Flag Football coach Who coaches USC defense. Fire Grinch now. Alex Grinch and his defense coaching staff is responsible for the development of each defense player on that team. Have they been developed??? Nope