Very informative, but I think you made a mistake for the thrall best armor choice, the voidforge dragon ribs is better the the redeemed legion pauldron (same damage bonus but better armor value)
You are absolutely right! My bad! Also forgot to add the silent legion heavy armor, even tho it wouldn't have made any difference. I'm trying to improve as I started just a month ago.
I made a set of armor based on the changes mentioned in the comments (using Voidforged Dragon Ribs instead of Redeemed Legion Pauldrons). I made that set but alternated between Silent Legion Medium Gauntlets and Godbreaker Grips. They were made with a T4 Shieldsmith and each piece had Bulk Plating applied for an additional 25 points of armor. Here's the results: Full set with GodBreaker Grips: 1722 Armor, 31% additional STR damage, 87.3% Damage Reduction. Full set with Redeemed Silent L: 1627 Armor, 34% additional STR damage, 86.7% Dama Reduction. Thralls have additional inherent armor that is added to the total, increasing as they gain more grit when leveling. As the total amor value for the thrall increases, the amount of damage reduction slows down further, making for only small percentage increases. Small differences in percentage of damage reduction do make for larger differences in percentage of damage received. The percentage difference of damage reduction between 87.3 and 86.7 is only .6%, but you receive about 5% more damage from the smaller value of armor than you do from the larger one. While additional 31% STR damage and 34% is roughly 10%, it's actually smaller overall once all stats are added in, making it more subjective than you'd think as to if it's better to have that extra bit of armor or extra bit of STR damage.
@@ExiledTales Thanks! I had already made a spreadsheet to calculate damage reduction. I used to have one that calculated how much armor you got from Agility, but they changed it so you get it from Grit now, and the formula is hard to figure out. One thrall with 15 Grit has 120 innate armor, another with 15 Grit has 150 innate armor. There must be some other modifier inherent in the faction or race of the thrall.
@@bobcarn The wiki says this: Grit "determines the size of your stamina pool and has a direct effect on armor". +3 stamina per point. +8 armor per point And then you have the perks Maybe it will help you modify the spreadsheet 😁
Thank you very much! I appreciate it a tone! Yes swap the Redeemed Legion Pauldrons with the Voidforged Dragonbone Ribs and you might want to try the Silent Legion Medium Gauntlets for +8% str weapon damage instead of +5% but a little less armor 😉
Yes, the Dragonbone Ribs is better, it was a misstake, I usualy use Redeemed Legion and while I had the info under my nose, because of the habit, I put the Redeemed chest there. But the Perfected Heavy boots are better then the Warchief Pictish boots. Also if you want more str weapon dmg use the Silent legion medium gloves instead of the Godbreaker grips ... while less armor, will give +3% more str weapon dmg. I will try to do better and pay more attention in the future!
Thank you very much! I appreciate it! I did a mistake in the video ... the Voidforge Dragon Ribs are better for the thrall as a chest piece then the Redeemed Legion Pauldrons! ✌😁
as others have pointed already out, that the void forged chest armor is better, but I also want to mention, that armor has a diminishing return attached to it, meaning that anything above 1500 armor is severely reduced in terms of dmg reduction. So instead of getting even the last single digit armor value, just get the cheapest one.
Crazy how much the values changed since i was on. A lot of that was the same pieces tho but all the numbers are different from a year ago lmao im basically new to the game again even with 3k hours
outdated info my man , frost gaint boots give 8% str dmg and aspect of the wolf helm gives +15% on one piece , why woul du not mention these, also medium silent legion is best for gloves because u already hit diminishing returns on the armour values snd they give +8% str alone
Thank you for commenting! BUT as I sayed just in the first 30 seconds of the video, it's only for Exiled Lands and also only heavy armors! But I agree with the silent legion gloves ... the maximum best is with that ... i will do a medium and light armor video in the future!
Redeemed legion helmed,Voidforged dragonbone chest,silent legion medium gauntlets,perfected heawy armor boots and pants-no sense to use expensive champion armor parts for thralls.For yourself i prefer godbreaker helm,champion chest,pants,boots,and redeemed legion hands.But thats only my preferences.BTW-you forget heavy Ymir armor with str bonus
@@ExiledTales +8% str = %8 strength weapon damage not str :D I started playing a week ago this information about thrall armor and their recipes took some time for me to gather , so for new players i tried to make clearer what items are best for increasing damage strenght weapon using thralls. I be able to beat arena champion with 2 thralls 1 has momentum 1 has tenderizer using , 19 corrupted authority and i shoot the legs of arena champion with bow using snake arrows. Note Before farming these armors i used Guardian Armor full set for thralls. (5x 5 %25 str weapon damage but also nearly 1k armor less )
@@letsbegin4584 very nice research mate! 😁 ... Last time I played on Siptah about 3 months ago before AoW came out, Aspect of the Wolf which is a heavy armor helmet had +15% str weapon damage ... Idk if they change it in AoW or not but you should consider taking a look into that. 😁
@@ExiledTales I am not playing Expension cause i still need to farm Arena Champion safetly and be able to kill Rockslide. Currently i am running with 20 expertise for carrying stuff when i finish the armors i will change it to 20 Grit for max %25 damage recive perk. With Glutton for punishment, 19 authority and vitality i think i can tank both Arena Champion and Rockslide with my Cannibal Brute Thralls in full armor, if it doesnt work i will try zombie glitch and creat a cannibal brute zombie horde and test that too. I am still looking for a good weapon, with %50 corrupt will have really low stamina so spamming light attacks to stun lock Arena Champion is not an reliable option. But i really like the corruption bonuses like immunity to bleed poison desies etc. After I finish those test I would start playing expension :D
craft an elevator to get into the sinkhole =)) ...pretty sure that's a no build zone or am I wrong? If I'm not wrong then you can just fking fly in =)) elevator how lazy
😄 it's an option and you can build there, it's not admin stuff on official servers you find elevators there too! I like to say it's a convenience thing more then lazy, you don't get corrupted and it takes roughly 1 min. Yes you can also cast slow fall then when you get out you can summon the bat 😁. This is why I like the game, you have multiple options for the same thing! Cheers!
@@andorandor5462 I ment its another option to get into the sinkhole not that I activated build anywhere option... It's allowed from the game to build there unless they changed that in the last patches. I didn't play in Exiled Lands from my last playthrough. (Edit) I don't like to cheat, use mods or exploit game braking bugs/glitches
I usualy do wear the Pictish Warchief stuff and with the redeemed legion also the perfected stuff just because is cheaper. But I have timestamps so if anyone wants to skip the rambling, can watch just the good stuff or what he/she wants!
Very informative, but I think you made a mistake for the thrall best armor choice, the voidforge dragon ribs is better the the redeemed legion pauldron (same damage bonus but better armor value)
You are absolutely right! My bad! Also forgot to add the silent legion heavy armor, even tho it wouldn't have made any difference. I'm trying to improve as I started just a month ago.
I would love to see a version of this video for the agility armors cause this is great
I have one ... It's newer... Just check the video list. Thanks for watching! 😁👌
I made a set of armor based on the changes mentioned in the comments (using Voidforged Dragon Ribs instead of Redeemed Legion Pauldrons). I made that set but alternated between Silent Legion Medium Gauntlets and Godbreaker Grips. They were made with a T4 Shieldsmith and each piece had Bulk Plating applied for an additional 25 points of armor. Here's the results:
Full set with GodBreaker Grips: 1722 Armor, 31% additional STR damage, 87.3% Damage Reduction.
Full set with Redeemed Silent L: 1627 Armor, 34% additional STR damage, 86.7% Dama Reduction.
Thralls have additional inherent armor that is added to the total, increasing as they gain more grit when leveling. As the total amor value for the thrall increases, the amount of damage reduction slows down further, making for only small percentage increases. Small differences in percentage of damage reduction do make for larger differences in percentage of damage received. The percentage difference of damage reduction between 87.3 and 86.7 is only .6%, but you receive about 5% more damage from the smaller value of armor than you do from the larger one. While additional 31% STR damage and 34% is roughly 10%, it's actually smaller overall once all stats are added in, making it more subjective than you'd think as to if it's better to have that extra bit of armor or extra bit of STR damage.
Nice! great work! that must of took a bit of experimenting! 😁
@@ExiledTales Thanks! I had already made a spreadsheet to calculate damage reduction. I used to have one that calculated how much armor you got from Agility, but they changed it so you get it from Grit now, and the formula is hard to figure out. One thrall with 15 Grit has 120 innate armor, another with 15 Grit has 150 innate armor. There must be some other modifier inherent in the faction or race of the thrall.
@@bobcarn The wiki says this:
Grit "determines the size of your stamina pool and has a direct effect on armor".
+3 stamina per point.
+8 armor per point
And then you have the perks
Maybe it will help you modify the spreadsheet 😁
The best video explaining armors thanks!
That's really informative! I'm going to make up a mixed set with the change mentioned below.
Thank you very much! I appreciate it a tone! Yes swap the Redeemed Legion Pauldrons with the Voidforged Dragonbone Ribs and you might want to try the Silent Legion Medium Gauntlets for +8% str weapon damage instead of +5% but a little less armor 😉
@@ExiledTales I'll try that. The trade-off could be better!
Redeemed legion helm
Dragonebone chest
Godbreaker gauntlets
Arena champion leggings
Pictish Boots
Thats a +31% strength weapon damage kit with slightly boosted armour value than shown here.
Yes, the Dragonbone Ribs is better, it was a misstake, I usualy use Redeemed Legion and while I had the info under my nose, because of the habit, I put the Redeemed chest there. But the Perfected Heavy boots are better then the Warchief Pictish boots. Also if you want more str weapon dmg use the Silent legion medium gloves instead of the Godbreaker grips ... while less armor, will give +3% more str weapon dmg. I will try to do better and pay more attention in the future!
@@ExiledTales yeah I didnt realise the boots had a higher av. Everyone makes mistakes 😂
@@EmbraceBLVN Yeah! 😅 as long as we are civilized it's all fun! 😁
@@EmbraceBLVN and cheaper to craft
good information and really nice explain but best chest for str is dragonbone since its the highest armor value
Yes! I messed up right there! Thank you for the feedback! i will redo the video in the future for sure!
Straight to the damn info....!!! Subscribed & Liked!! Will be checking more of your content.
Thank you very much! I appreciate it! I did a mistake in the video ... the Voidforge Dragon Ribs are better for the thrall as a chest piece then the Redeemed Legion Pauldrons! ✌😁
Good stuff
Thank you! That means a lot!
Thanks for that breakdown, well done. Subscribed for more :)
I appreciate it man!
Great video, bro. Thank you 🙏
Thank you very much! I appreciate it! 😁✌️
THX!!!!
as others have pointed already out, that the void forged chest armor is better, but I also want to mention, that armor has a diminishing return attached to it, meaning that anything above 1500 armor is severely reduced in terms of dmg reduction. So instead of getting even the last single digit armor value, just get the cheapest one.
Reedem legion helmet, dragonbone chestplate, and gloves, boots and legs perfected heavy armor, 31% strenght
Crazy how much the values changed since i was on. A lot of that was the same pieces tho but all the numbers are different from a year ago lmao im basically new to the game again even with 3k hours
Yes! the devs want to change things every age so the game feels fresh!
Thank you for being very informative without needless, time wasting gameplay clips. 👍
PS by any chance?
Thank you very much for the feedback! I don't understand the question 😁
@@ExiledTales PlayStation? PC? Xbox?
PC 😁 I know there are issues on consoles.
outdated info my man , frost gaint boots give 8% str dmg and aspect of the wolf helm gives +15% on one piece , why woul du not mention these, also medium silent legion is best for gloves because u already hit diminishing returns on the armour values snd they give +8% str alone
Thank you for commenting! BUT as I sayed just in the first 30 seconds of the video, it's only for Exiled Lands and also only heavy armors! But I agree with the silent legion gloves ... the maximum best is with that ... i will do a medium and light armor video in the future!
@@ExiledTales ahhh i missed tht i just saw they had the "DLC" tag my bad
No worries man! Have a nice day!
Redeemed legion helmed,Voidforged dragonbone chest,silent legion medium gauntlets,perfected heawy armor boots and pants-no sense to use expensive champion armor parts for thralls.For yourself i prefer godbreaker helm,champion chest,pants,boots,and redeemed legion hands.But thats only my preferences.BTW-you forget heavy Ymir armor with str bonus
Redeemed legion helmet +8% str
Voidforged dragon heavy chest +8% str
Medium silent legion gloves +8% str
Champion's Leggings +%5 str
Perfected Heavy Sabatons +%5 str = Max %34 Str Buff - BEST FOR STR THRALLS IN EXILE LANDS
*For Isle of Siptah
Black Knight Tasset +%8 Str
Frost Giant's Boots +%8 Str = Max %40 Str Buff
Did they change the Aspect of the Wolf? it doesn't give %str weapon damage? I didn't play Siptah in AoW yet!
@@ExiledTales +8% str = %8 strength weapon damage not str :D I started playing a week ago this information about thrall armor and their recipes took some time for me to gather , so for new players i tried to make clearer what items are best for increasing damage strenght weapon using thralls. I be able to beat arena champion with 2 thralls 1 has momentum 1 has tenderizer using , 19 corrupted authority and i shoot the legs of arena champion with bow using snake arrows.
Note Before farming these armors i used Guardian Armor full set for thralls. (5x 5 %25 str weapon damage but also nearly 1k armor less )
@@letsbegin4584 very nice research mate! 😁 ... Last time I played on Siptah about 3 months ago before AoW came out, Aspect of the Wolf which is a heavy armor helmet had +15% str weapon damage ... Idk if they change it in AoW or not but you should consider taking a look into that. 😁
@@ExiledTales I am not playing Expension cause i still need to farm Arena Champion safetly and be able to kill Rockslide. Currently i am running with 20 expertise for carrying stuff when i finish the armors i will change it to 20 Grit for max %25 damage recive perk. With Glutton for punishment, 19 authority and vitality i think i can tank both Arena Champion and Rockslide with my Cannibal Brute Thralls in full armor, if it doesnt work i will try zombie glitch and creat a cannibal brute zombie horde and test that too. I am still looking for a good weapon, with %50 corrupt will have really low stamina so spamming light attacks to stun lock Arena Champion is not an reliable option. But i really like the corruption bonuses like immunity to bleed poison desies etc. After I finish those test I would start playing expension :D
@@letsbegin4584 ok nice! have fun with the game and don't rush! 😁
craft an elevator to get into the sinkhole =)) ...pretty sure that's a no build zone or am I wrong? If I'm not wrong then you can just fking fly in =)) elevator how lazy
😄 it's an option and you can build there, it's not admin stuff on official servers you find elevators there too! I like to say it's a convenience thing more then lazy, you don't get corrupted and it takes roughly 1 min. Yes you can also cast slow fall then when you get out you can summon the bat 😁. This is why I like the game, you have multiple options for the same thing! Cheers!
@@ExiledTales ah yea I remember bow they made it an actual option, that s naughty
@@andorandor5462 I ment its another option to get into the sinkhole not that I activated build anywhere option... It's allowed from the game to build there unless they changed that in the last patches. I didn't play in Exiled Lands from my last playthrough. (Edit) I don't like to cheat, use mods or exploit game braking bugs/glitches
who would wear the lesser versions save your breathe stop talking about the lower crap ones
I usualy do wear the Pictish Warchief stuff and with the redeemed legion also the perfected stuff just because is cheaper. But I have timestamps so if anyone wants to skip the rambling, can watch just the good stuff or what he/she wants!