As a fellow blue mage who's used to sometimes long turns at the end, I appreciate CGB for his smooth and quick way on that last turn. It was so professional, and it's nice because sometimes when you're obviously gonna win a game with friends, you don't want to drag out a final turn, so going for the throat and making it less painful is good (for the friendships too lol) I just appreciated that. Happy new year everybody!
I stoped watching when CGB starts to take over other players creatures - it's getting boring and had nothing to do with a friendly commander game with friends
The Mnemonic Deluge copies the card but you still must cast the copies, so on-cast triggers such as Rhystic Study's ability will still see the spells being cast. It's different from something like a Double Cast which puts copies on the stack of a spell that is already on the stack. Interestingly, the card copies do exist in/on the stack before casting them, if I am not mistaken.
I do believe the trigger that makes the copies goes on stack, and then you can choose to cast, but the card itself doesn’t go on stack till you cast, but ye came to comments to see if others picked up on that (doesn’t really matter I think tho)
Also, each copy needs to have its targets put on the stack at resolution of Mnemonic Deluge. They shortcut it, and did each individually, but it still requires timing rules to occur.
@@mathmoril only because it doesn’t matter I had to delve further ;) 707.12 from the comprehensive rules has a part that says, “except that the copy is created in the same zone the object is in and then cast while another spell or ability is resolving.” Which means that the card copies are created in the Exile zone since Mnemonic Deluge exiled the card first. So, this would then matter for things that care about casting things from exile, in particular, right? Things like Passionate Archaeologist and Nalfeshnee.
just a quick note, at 36:29 there are a couple cards that can be used as a response to it such as commit//memory and other "put spell in library" cards
CGB couldn't attack Blake with Magus Lucea Kane because he didn't control her since the begining of his turn. There's also the triggers on the cast copies already mentioned in other comments. Otherwise, it was a great game of Archnemesis guys !
Fortunately shouldn't matter. Could have used lighting greaves on it, killed blake. Only niv-mizzet dmg he couldn't send to Shea that turn (as Niv also were summoning sick if I remember correctly). Total possible damage at last turn would still have been enough even with that extra 4 life.
@@terriblenorwegiangaming547 Definitely would've been enough with the Goblin Bombardment, he could just sac creatures after combat even if there hadn't been enough damage in attacks.
At 29:30, isn't the vigilant token a 14/14? Because Blasphemous Act only deals 13 damage, so it not being blocked (or targeted by Bombardment) is a pretty big thing to forget.
CGB was sooo dominating this game! I love Locust God and Xyris as commanders. Really fun to play :) Haven't played against Tyrannids yet but they look strong too if they get a lot of mana. Kinda wondering why Goblin Bombardment triggers weren't targeting the planeswalkers, can hit any target with it. Also Ben should've attacked the planeswalkers with all those flyers (turn after Blatant Thievery 1) while Ghostly Prison was up as it only protects you from attacks and not the planeswalkers you control. Xyris would've blocked Locust God but still 3 damage to the planeswalker could've made a good difference in finishing them off. Well played everyone, was a cool game!
I will say, the Tyranid deck with a Lucea focus works tremendously well if you add untap engines to the deck; with them, she quickly generates an absurd amount of mana to put into an X spell that gets copied a ridiculous amount of times which, with Ravenous, also turns into a great source of card advantage.
The algo decided to toss this into my feed after all this time, and I now know that Blake is an Overwatch fan. I can practically hear the rant about his Genji teammate from here.
Really enjoyed watching my favourite commander control this game. ElWINster is such a great card often overlooked by people, very versatile, insane card selection and advantage. Can win by going wide and pump with a candlekeep inspiration, Approach of the second sun which can be cast and retrieved and cast in 1 turn without too many pieces and can go infinite with displacer kitten and mystic speculation to draw your deck and win by jace/labman/Thoracle.
Great to see you guys doing a recap of some of the decks from last year! I got into EDH thanks to you guys and Playing with power. Got two 40k precons as an introduction and I managed to make them into strong and consistent decks. Curious to see what directions you'd take them if you did do a 40k upgraded precon matchup!
19:20 Cost reduction can not pay for rhystic study because rhystic study triggers after a spell's cost has been paid for and has been added to the stack.
CGB paid for rhystic study using a floating mana from Sol Ring. He was basically saying "because I got a discount from Elminster, I can pay for the rhystic study"
Love the idea behind this episode! Winning decks. Thanks for all your content! I know it’s a lot of work but I never miss an episode and like all of the commander games you all have played.
Good match. Liked the power level of the decks and counters and board wipes to keep things clean. On the triple copy the steal all the stuff spell I think you ha e to announce all the targets when you put the copies on the stack prior to resolution so there is opportunity to tap the Monolith or sac stuff to the Bombardment unless I'm missing something (not familiar with that specific card or the one that copied it.)
The error was that it doesn't instantly cast 3 copies. It creates them, and lets you cast them without paying their mana cost. The copies are all cast separately (so the Rhystic Studies and Remora would still trigger), but because they're all cast one by one, targets only need to be announced when you cast and resolve each one.
Ghostly prison doesn't prevent attacking planeswalkers at anyway, you might want play sphere of safety if you want that kind of thing. Also, I would like to see how Adeline would work on your games, it's actually good mono white aggro deck just make sure read it right since it triggers any attack you make, not just adeline herself. Plus on multiplayer you get 1/1 human attack everyone.
Dang, gg's. Hind sight is 20/20, but as soon as Ben countered Shay's commander, I immediately thought it was a mistake...turns out, he really could've used that counterspell against his most dangerous opponent. Generally I think they should gang up on CGB much sooner when he's playing a dominant blue deck like this one but instead they weirdly spent the first half of the game weakening each other.
I wonder if Ben had played out that Jeska's will before the Curiosity if it wouldve bated out CGB's Pack of Negation allowing Ben to play his Curiosity and win the game.
The Copies from Mnemonic Deluge would have triggered Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora, even though they are copies, Mnemonic Deluge just lets CGB cast them for free, but are still cast. as it reads "You may cast the copies without paying their mana costs." or am I wrong here?
I checked the deck list. How does Adrix and nev work with magus Lucea Kane copying spells of these x spell creatures that have 0/0 power and toughness?
i didnt know scrying multiple cards allowed you to switch which order the cards. I thought you just get to look at them and decide to keep em on top or pitch to bottom.
I hope to see a game without blue-mage, fight to dead in the glory. BTW, Your Elminster deck is damn good, i built one because of the 1st episode i saw you play it and it is perfectly ruin my friendship
It was not a pact of negation it was a force of will if Im not mistaken that why he exile from his hand a blue card instead of paying the mana cost of FoW.
@@mindslaver8658 Definetly a Force of Negation, need to exile a card from your hand as well to play it, like Force of Will, but this can only be done during opponents turn.
i haven't see the full vid yet but i must point out one important detail. After what happened to Magic in 2022 Ben's shirt can't be any more appropriate
37:20 it's hilarious how 50% of the misplays on this channel is them assuming determiental effects apply symmetrically when they don't Ben don't hurt yourself 😭
*Spoiler* That win was exactly the kind of thing I really enjoy doing. I love taking other people's card and using them against them 😀 I finally found the name of the opening credits theme song. I hope this doesn't give away state secrets... It's called "Imagine A Wonderful Future" by Rattlesnake.
With regards to Ben using Subtlety on Purpherous.......its not a creature as Shays devotion to red is less than 5........I'm full of cold atm and my brain hurts watching MtG content atm so go easy on me if I dun goofed ;) Edit: After some thought I couldn't tell if Ben had used Subtlety in response to Purpherous going on the stack or if Purpherous had resolved already. He obv did it in response!!! I blew my nose and my brain got some oxygen and I think it worked for a brief moment there!!! Edit 2: Love the top CGB!!! Totally approve!! Only just noticed it after you acquired Teferi from Ben along with the 7/7 and Shays commander!!!
I feel like Ben didn’t realized he could still freely attack CGB’s planeswalkers with Ghostly Prison on the field.
they repeat that mistake in another episode again and probably to this day believe ghostly prison protects planeswalkers. :O
I'd like to think 2023 is gonna be the year of "CovertGoBlake" the gruesome twosome NOBODY saw coming 🤘
That would be fun to watch, and horrific to play against! Also makes me think... they should do a 2v2 teams episode
As a fellow blue mage who's used to sometimes long turns at the end, I appreciate CGB for his smooth and quick way on that last turn. It was so professional, and it's nice because sometimes when you're obviously gonna win a game with friends, you don't want to drag out a final turn, so going for the throat and making it less painful is good (for the friendships too lol)
I just appreciated that.
Happy new year everybody!
I have never wanted CGB to lose a game of magic more than this one
Wow you guys, this got dark. That's some ruff hate watching loll
I stoped watching when CGB starts to take over other players creatures - it's getting boring and had nothing to do with a friendly commander game with friends
I love CGB I usually root for him. Blatant Thievery not once, but twice, was a lot
I don’t think I’ve ever watched a game and wanted him to win.
IRL... CGB is an awesome, dedicated content creator. I'll root for that any day.
The Mnemonic Deluge copies the card but you still must cast the copies, so on-cast triggers such as Rhystic Study's ability will still see the spells being cast. It's different from something like a Double Cast which puts copies on the stack of a spell that is already on the stack.
Interestingly, the card copies do exist in/on the stack before casting them, if I am not mistaken.
I do believe the trigger that makes the copies goes on stack, and then you can choose to cast, but the card itself doesn’t go on stack till you cast, but ye came to comments to see if others picked up on that (doesn’t really matter I think tho)
Also, each copy needs to have its targets put on the stack at resolution of Mnemonic Deluge. They shortcut it, and did each individually, but it still requires timing rules to occur.
@@mathmoril only because it doesn’t matter I had to delve further ;)
707.12 from the comprehensive rules has a part that says, “except that the copy is created in the same zone the object is in and then cast while another spell or ability is resolving.” Which means that the card copies are created in the Exile zone since Mnemonic Deluge exiled the card first. So, this would then matter for things that care about casting things from exile, in particular, right? Things like Passionate Archaeologist and Nalfeshnee.
@@yaokuiakree yes, this is true
2023 is the year of the dynamic duo covertgoblake!
just a quick note, at 36:29 there are a couple cards that can be used as a response to it such as commit//memory and other "put spell in library" cards
CGB couldn't attack Blake with Magus Lucea Kane because he didn't control her since the begining of his turn.
There's also the triggers on the cast copies already mentioned in other comments.
Otherwise, it was a great game of Archnemesis guys !
Fortunately shouldn't matter. Could have used lighting greaves on it, killed blake. Only niv-mizzet dmg he couldn't send to Shea that turn (as Niv also were summoning sick if I remember correctly). Total possible damage at last turn would still have been enough even with that extra 4 life.
@@terriblenorwegiangaming547 Definitely would've been enough with the Goblin Bombardment, he could just sac creatures after combat even if there hadn't been enough damage in attacks.
Blake's appreciative "I like this new Ben" is everything I ever wanted from this show
Ghostly Prison doesn't tax attacking planeswalkers >>
At 29:30, isn't the vigilant token a 14/14?
Because Blasphemous Act only deals 13 damage, so it not being blocked (or targeted by Bombardment) is a pretty big thing to forget.
Have not seen the video yet, but OMG Xyris!! My favorite commander by far and most fun games for my playgroup! Excited for the video!
I really appreciate your introduction for your decks and explain your winning condition.
CGB was sooo dominating this game! I love Locust God and Xyris as commanders. Really fun to play :) Haven't played against Tyrannids yet but they look strong too if they get a lot of mana. Kinda wondering why Goblin Bombardment triggers weren't targeting the planeswalkers, can hit any target with it. Also Ben should've attacked the planeswalkers with all those flyers (turn after Blatant Thievery 1) while Ghostly Prison was up as it only protects you from attacks and not the planeswalkers you control. Xyris would've blocked Locust God but still 3 damage to the planeswalker could've made a good difference in finishing them off. Well played everyone, was a cool game!
I will say, the Tyranid deck with a Lucea focus works tremendously well if you add untap engines to the deck; with them, she quickly generates an absurd amount of mana to put into an X spell that gets copied a ridiculous amount of times which, with Ravenous, also turns into a great source of card advantage.
You guys are my favourite commander show. Keep up the great content.
The algo decided to toss this into my feed after all this time, and I now know that Blake is an Overwatch fan. I can practically hear the rant about his Genji teammate from here.
Really enjoyed watching my favourite commander control this game. ElWINster is such a great card often overlooked by people, very versatile, insane card selection and advantage. Can win by going wide and pump with a candlekeep inspiration, Approach of the second sun which can be cast and retrieved and cast in 1 turn without too many pieces and can go infinite with displacer kitten and mystic speculation to draw your deck and win by jace/labman/Thoracle.
Whoa I did not know you had a channel like this, this is awesome!
Surprised Raffine wasn't one of the decks but loved the video! Let this be a lesson to ALWAYS attack Elminster haha!
Happy new year, guys :) thanks for the fun and helping me cope with my Commander addiction in times when there’s no one around to play with ;)
Great to see you guys doing a recap of some of the decks from last year! I got into EDH thanks to you guys and Playing with power. Got two 40k precons as an introduction and I managed to make them into strong and consistent decks. Curious to see what directions you'd take them if you did do a 40k upgraded precon matchup!
19:20 Cost reduction can not pay for rhystic study because rhystic study triggers after a spell's cost has been paid for and has been added to the stack.
CGB paid for rhystic study using a floating mana from Sol Ring. He was basically saying "because I got a discount from Elminster, I can pay for the rhystic study"
Love the idea behind this episode! Winning decks. Thanks for all your content! I know it’s a lot of work but I never miss an episode and like all of the commander games you all have played.
Thank you for changing the colors of the center score board! It is much more visible.
Good match. Liked the power level of the decks and counters and board wipes to keep things clean. On the triple copy the steal all the stuff spell I think you ha e to announce all the targets when you put the copies on the stack prior to resolution so there is opportunity to tap the Monolith or sac stuff to the Bombardment unless I'm missing something (not familiar with that specific card or the one that copied it.)
The error was that it doesn't instantly cast 3 copies.
It creates them, and lets you cast them without paying their mana cost.
The copies are all cast separately (so the Rhystic Studies and Remora would still trigger), but because they're all cast one by one, targets only need to be announced when you cast and resolve each one.
Happy new yrs everyone
Ghostly prison doesn't prevent attacking planeswalkers at anyway, you might want play sphere of safety if you want that kind of thing.
Also, I would like to see how Adeline would work on your games, it's actually good mono white aggro deck just make sure read it right since it triggers any attack you make, not just adeline herself. Plus on multiplayer you get 1/1 human attack everyone.
Dang, gg's. Hind sight is 20/20, but as soon as Ben countered Shay's commander, I immediately thought it was a mistake...turns out, he really could've used that counterspell against his most dangerous opponent. Generally I think they should gang up on CGB much sooner when he's playing a dominant blue deck like this one but instead they weirdly spent the first half of the game weakening each other.
Amazing to see Bens growth, do miss him just shuffling the same 5 cards around with scroll rack all game though it was funny
I wonder if Ben had played out that Jeska's will before the Curiosity if it wouldve bated out CGB's Pack of Negation allowing Ben to play his Curiosity and win the game.
CGB playing the Sage of Shadowdale makes me happy.
Happy New Years to all you beautiful people!
You should play two headed giant at some point. Happy New Year!
Saw ED Hijinx do it, it was pretty cool. I don't see a lot of THG in these yt shows
The Copies from Mnemonic Deluge would have triggered Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora, even though they are copies, Mnemonic Deluge just lets CGB cast them for free, but are still cast. as it reads "You may cast the copies without paying their mana costs." or am I wrong here?
You're right.
@12:44 perph isnt a creature...right? ...so the spell shouldn't have worked?
Loved this game happy new year gang 🎉 can’t wait to see more great content 😊
CGB just said “actually that’s mine” the whole game
Enjoyed it so much, keep it up this year
I see you CGB with the deep cut Doctor Who shirt!😂
Before the vid:
Ah yes, the first Worst Possible of the year.
After the vid:
Ah yes, the last episode of Worst Possible ever.
At 43:30 CGB cast Pact of Negation. I don’t know if I missed it, but did he pay at upkeep?
that was a force of negation, which does not require you to pay
He actually cast Force of Negation and exiled blue card
Thank you. I miss read the card. My apologies!!
The worst best commanders of the best worst commander show!
I checked the deck list. How does Adrix and nev work with magus Lucea Kane copying spells of these x spell creatures that have 0/0 power and toughness?
plz do a precons 40k update game plz wood be amazing
i didnt know scrying multiple cards allowed you to switch which order the cards. I thought you just get to look at them and decide to keep em on top or pitch to bottom.
Nope put the on bottom or back on top in any order.
I like this new ben, unlocked evil ben, this is great love to see it
11:15 CGBlake is the name of the ship
This is the year of CovertGoBlake.
let the shipping commence
Would subtlety of worked on purpheros as it wasnt a creature (not enougj devotion) or am i stupid?
It's own effect making it not a creature only comes into effect after it is in the board.
Purphoros is a creature spell when on the stack
CGB + Blake = CovertGoBlake
Was wondering why they signalled 0322 in the intro, but figured they probably wanted to pose 2023 for the new year, but the order was wrong(?)
Ben's shirt is gas, and so very true
Omg I love Bens shirt 😂😂😂
Complete domination by CGB
I hope to see a game without blue-mage, fight to dead in the glory. BTW, Your Elminster deck is damn good, i built one because of the 1st episode i saw you play it and it is perfectly ruin my friendship
I for one, loved the evil control mage winning. Great game, loved all the card draw shenanigans!
I had a comment but CGB stole that too.
CGB keeping Ben around to make him look better. GOOD GAWD BEN, MAKE BETTER PLAYS
I loved Ben's shirt 😅
Still think we need to get CGB an Elminster alter with his face on it!
That was a crazy game!
Ben's on FIRE!!!!!
Happy New Year! Which app do you use for life counter ?
CGB and Blake should be given the moniker - MutualFrustration - since they would both rather ruin the others' game than win!
I think the ship name would be CGBlake or Covert Go Blake. Lol that ship sunk pretty fast though.
Couple name @Blake , CGBB, pronounced "See Gee Babyyy!"
Did Ben and shea plan on playing decks that worked so well together
Your channel is hands down my favorite magic content as of last year!
And side note - how is Shea so pretty?
CGB is my favorite azorius's mage
Couple name for CGB and Blake is Covert goes Blake
Happy New Year everyone, I think I hate drawing cards 😆 , this game is great, who going to win first game of the year?
11:13 that would be CovertGoBlake
Shouldnt CGB pay for negation in upkeep after countering curiosity, or am I missing something?
It was a Force of Negation not Pact of Negation.
was Force of Negation, not Pact of Negation
It was not a pact of negation it was a force of will if Im not mistaken that why he exile from his hand a blue card instead of paying the mana cost of FoW.
@@mindslaver8658 Definetly a Force of Negation, need to exile a card from your hand as well to play it, like Force of Will, but this can only be done during opponents turn.
Ben first counter made me think about PoN, but it was FoN. Thx for info.
it was an 11 thanks!
i haven't see the full vid yet but i must point out one important detail. After what happened to Magic in 2022 Ben's shirt can't be any more appropriate
I need Ben's shirt.
I want Ben's shirt lol.
Dude same
Only dropped into these comments to see if anyone else appreciated that gem. Stay golden Ben
Uh-Oh hopefully CGB still gets invited back after this one lol.
Bens shirt 😂
CovertGoBlake! 😍 ship it
theres two commas behind tyranids
CONTROL RULES
Your couple name is obviously CGBlake
37:20 it's hilarious how 50% of the misplays on this channel is them assuming determiental effects apply symmetrically when they don't
Ben don't hurt yourself 😭
*Spoiler* That win was exactly the kind of thing I really enjoy doing. I love taking other people's card and using them against them 😀
I finally found the name of the opening credits theme song. I hope this doesn't give away state secrets...
It's called "Imagine A Wonderful Future" by Rattlesnake.
Brutal game.. ouch!
For the Emperor?
11:15 CGBlake?
Disgusting. "Don't activate 3 copies thievery!!... and I will not kill you first in every other game for the rest of the year"
Blatent thievery?! You have broken the unwritten rule. Cower in shame!
CGBlake
CG-Blake ftw
Koma didn’t make this list? Or am I crazy and he wasn’t 2022?
Anyone else crushing on Shea?
For the Hive Mind!!!
Is this another video of CGB playing solitaire?
Dang! The all blend together at this point!
CovertGoBlake 🥳
With regards to Ben using Subtlety on Purpherous.......its not a creature as Shays devotion to red is less than 5........I'm full of cold atm and my brain hurts watching MtG content atm so go easy on me if I dun goofed ;)
Edit: After some thought I couldn't tell if Ben had used Subtlety in response to Purpherous going on the stack or if Purpherous had resolved already. He obv did it in response!!! I blew my nose and my brain got some oxygen and I think it worked for a brief moment there!!!
Edit 2: Love the top CGB!!! Totally approve!! Only just noticed it after you acquired Teferi from Ben along with the 7/7 and Shays commander!!!
Subtlety doesn't hit creatures, it hits creature spells, so it couldn't have resolved.
@@dandonaldson9149 Thanks Dan. I looked the card up and saw that part of the wording, makes sense now.
Subtlety couldn't target Purphoros since it's not a creature and is an enchantment and won't be a creature until it's devotion is met.
Purphoros and the other gods are creature spells on the stack.
That’s also why they can be your commander
purphoros is a creature spell when on the stack