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For your lifestyle, I think you answered your question. Power. You are not world travelers. You don't need a sail cat. It's too labor intensive to sail. You really have to love all the work involved. You will be too busy running your volgs, and working as captains every once in a while. You can work on your diesel engines yourself, save money on labor. And as you mentioned, as electric tech. advances, you will eventually refit your yacht, or buy a new one. Sail is a pain in the neck for most. Looking forward to the fun you will have hunting for your next home.
Thanks Victoria and Rico, it was very interesting to hear your pro’s and con’s. Some of them I haven’t really thought of before. To own, I’m in team power cat. Where I live, nice weather often means no wind and proper wind means bad weather. A general pro to motorboats, in my opinion, is that they are more easy to operate short handed. Happy holidays!
I am an old dude whose body, after a lifetime of abuse, is starting to seize up. Even though I'm a sailor at heart I'm never likely to be able to undertake long ocean crossings or passages. So I think motoring would suit me better at this time of life. Thanks again for an entertaining video. I wish you both a Happy New Year. Ross
Great discussion on the power vs sail, Rico said it best, anytime you are cruising on the water is a great day. I would add to the power pro list, that the solo ability is much easier. I also agree once electric comes with better range ability that may even be better than power in that cost will be down in the long term. I apologize with my rambling but I have been going back and forth on this topic for a year and half.
*Ahoy guys. I like your channel very much & you're helping me decide what I might need to go to in the future without my having to do the travel. (Smiles) So thanks for doing that legwork for me.* *This is going to be a long post but I have a few disagreements on your narrative... and commentary on my future intentions. So I'll apologize in advance, in case I get long winded.* @ 18:22 *When you're talking about "Lightning Strikes" ... Any boat/ yacht/ ship can & will be struck by lightning. If the mast and hull materials create a prime lightning rod, then you can add a strap from the mast, into the water. If you add a conductive strap or rope, infused with metal, from the base of your mast, and drop the trailing end a meter or so into the water ... Even if your mast is struck, your electronics are likely going to survive and most assuredly, the boat will sustain no, to little damage. I started using the conductive straps in storms after my 34 foot Hunter power cruiser was struck and fried and I didn'thavethisadd-on. Then my 38 foot Hans Christian Cutter rig sailboat was struck off the Florida Coast & the conductive strap saved that one. Then a friend's 65 foot Chris Craft was struck, he had deployed the conductive rope, and his electronics were fine. I don't know why manufacturers don't add this simple, and fairly inexpensive, item ... but it's worth looking into if you're going to plan to sail/motor in inclement weather.* @ 19:21 *You seemed to relay that you think a Power Yacht is "Safer in a Storm" because a sail might tear, or something in the rigging may break. I've been through Tropical Storms with both, Power & Sail. And I've been through a Hurricane with Sailboats and one 82 foot Point Class Coast Guard Cutter. I'll place my life's bet on the Sailboat every time. They're made for rough seas and (typically) if you're breaking rigging and tearing sails ... you have either neglected the vessel to the point of abuse ... or ... you're overpowering the boat (and the rigging) FAR beyond the specs and allowance for safety in those conditions.* *Throughput the video, you mentioned "Parts & Maintenance" often. I guess this is a good time to unite my last thought on your comments and my future plans.* *Yes, parts for clutches, rigging, winches, sail repair, etc, are all necessary on a sailboat. But "Cost Wise" over the life of your cruising life, it works out about the same (or a little cheaper) than a power boat.* *That's considering, (as I plan to sail), that you're "under sail" with the engines off, at least 85% of the time that you're not on the hook.* *Engines burn a lot of fuel. And to "inframe overhaul" a large Diesel engine isn't cheap. And that cost goes up significantly, when it comes time to completely remove the old engines and replace them with new ones ... after the life of the block has expired and they can't be "inframe overhauled" again.* *With sails ... if you actually "sail" ... those costs come much further apart and the "engine swap" comes much, much later.* *Which now brings to mind a "Safety Issue" that i hadn't considered before: ...* *Let's say that we are running together, 500 miles offshore,... you in a Power Cat and Me in my Sailing Cat. We both take a Lightning Strike...* *Now ... with the new "Electronic Controlled Technology" in today's Diesel Engines ... I can manually hoist the sails and get back to shore. Or at least to a shipping lane, or coastline, where I can signal for help.* *You ... you, on the other hand. Well, my friends ... you're pretty much dead in the water & for all intents and purposes ... you're now Poseidon's Bitch.* *I plan to find a Sailboat, in good shape, in the 50 to 65 foot range. Sail around the World,... no schedule other than weather. And with today's technology, there is little reason to be caught in bad (hurricane or tropical storm) weather or strong tides unexpectedly.* *Then I plan to find a few "favorite" places, and follow the fishing, the sun ... and the bikini-clad girls.* LOL *Those were just a few of my thoughts. I probably wouldn't have posted anything ... but you did ask.* *Fair winds and following seas to you. Thanks for the work you put into your channel. Be well & see you on the beach somewhere ... someday.*
Another great video! Thansk again for the info! For me, it would be the power cat! Sailing has a coolness to it, but you have a big learning curve to sail properly, and it is a lot of work. For cruising, spending a weekend, and island hopping without much work and time loss, power cat all day. Also, pretty much anyone that has operated a power boat, can jump in into a power cat and get going (minimal learning), not so with a sail cat
By the way, you forgot to say that the sails and cables and couplings and rigging, everything will have to be changed from time to time. and if we take a short period of time, then the sail is more profitable, but if we take 5-10 years of boat ownership, then the motor will be cheaper
Overall a good look at the pros and cons of power versus sail for catamarans. The one point I would add, which you somewhat covered under maintenance, is the additional cost of sailing versus fuel burnt. The cost of replacing rigging, standing and running, and sails and covers which power boats don't have. I also have to added a thought on the "hate" between power and sail. I agree completely with Rico on this subject if you like boats you like all boats, power or sail. The problem is the people who operate them.
I think the way to go is a 60 ft Eco Power cat with max solar panels, electric engines and backup generator. The Sunreef eco and the 62 ft silent yacht seem to be the top picks. Also another pro of power cats is way less movement both at anchor and underway. The mast sways around way more = more seasickness.
Fantastic information here and your points also apply to monohulls. I lived on a wooden ketch in south Florida/Bahamas for almost a year. I agree completely with your assessments. In that time, I bet that I sailed fewer than 40 days. Most time underway was spent motoring/motor sailing because of unfavorable wind conditions versus water depth. Additionally, I had to change the jib to a storm sail in 7 ft seas once (this was before roller furling) and that was sufficient adventure for a life time. Love your channel.
Yay! The answer to last weeks live chat question. I can’t wait to watch it. Also, didn’t expect a video during the holiday weekend. Thank you for the content.
Greetings from Iowa. Thanks for another great video, with the low temps and a big winter storm coming in the next three days, I get a warm feeling watching your videos.
I'm a regular viewer and a Patreon member, but I'm getting to this particular one late and it's really helpful. I think my biggest concern with sailing catamarans is that even now, when so many are built for a singlehand sailor, it's just way too much work just to keep it up. You said that a sailing cat is more of a full time job, and that's a problem for my family, all of whom are older and not fully healthy. We feel that we can handle the work involved in a power cat, but... well, there's a reason people tend to define long-distance sailing as "working on your boat in a lot of exotic locations." 🤣 I'm concerned by the range issues, though, and I'm seriously considering buying a power cat and getting the power train converted to solar-electric, which really does seem to be the best of both worlds. I can't afford the Silent Yachts because they're so new, but an older power model that gets reconfigured is affordable even with the $100k cost or so to get the conversion done. I know you need to feed the batteries from more then the sun sometimes anyway, but from what I can tell, if you're willing to cruise slowly, not too often. Hopefully that'll let us eke out enough to be safe on long distance passages!
Another great video! You will need to do this comparison again in the not so distant future. The increasing number of E Cats will require it. Some would say they will have a list from the best of the best from both of your lists.
Personal choice is power. Mainly because it would be a family boat and I would have to handle it mainly solo so power is easier. Also, most voyages would be coastal so power would be easier navigation for me. Great video as always!
Hi Guys! Great episode. I am working towards building a fully electric liveaboard powercat between 45-55 and I agree, in 3-4 years time we will see a big change in the propulsion system. I also want to add a kite to the powercat "Sky sails" it will drive you and recharge your batteries. My favoriet design, with a few changes is the Aquanaut from the Italian hull designer Officina Armare.
An interesting topic, for me the question that would make me decide, would be the type of navigation. In case of voyages of many miles, the choice would be the sail, otherwise it would be the engine. Although living in the north, the inland helm that a motor catamaran provides is very tempting. In my case, the question is between two Fountaine Pajot models, the MY 40 and the Isla 40 and for now, I think the Isla has more points to be my refuge once I retire.
Happy Holidays NautilusStyles, I've always been a fan of motor-sailers like the venerable Fisher. Nice boats, also nice that they have a pilothouse, and not everything below the waterline :)
Hi Guys, You compliment each other well, Victoria is all about the gadgets and storage while Rico is about the "Meat and Potoes"! being the motor and mechanics and ease of driving the boat,etc.
Hi Victoria & Rico, a sailing catamaran is more climats -friendly emittiert less Co 2 and is less fuel-dependent on longer trips. Power catamaran are for people who love high speeds and want to get from A to B quickly. But both are joy an fun ⛵🛥⚓
Ive always had a negative impression of sailboats, but the Catamaran review made me reconsider. So much so that Ive been looking at the Leopard 50 in great detail.
Im a storm restoration company and we don’t work winter months. That being said, We believe a sail options would best fit our interest to sail from the us to iceland and see the reverse waterfalls.thanks we appreciate all your videos. Keep them coming.
I would love to see a video specifically over the power boat range and what types get the best range with the different types of hulls. That would be something I am extremely interested in. Thank you for your awesome videos.
Absolutely loved this.'Point/Counter-Point' talk of the varieties.I'd like Solar,with generator back-up.The flexible panels now may be developed into verticle for sail/power charge.Thank you 2 for this past years sanity in a crazy world.
Thinking deeper on this it would depend on how I wanted to use it. Shorter Island hops and time constraints or long voyages and no time constraints. Fuel costs could be expensive, but time also has value.
Exactly , it really only comes down to a question of distance. How FAR do you intend to go? If it is often a significant distance ....sail is hands down the only option to consider . Fuel costs are unbelievably high. If you just intend to operate the vessel around it's home berth on fairly short hops. Or routinely offer charter services to the same ports of call. Motor cat is the only option to consider . The added space and speed equal more income from more turnover of trips and charters.
Loved this video. You guys talked about electric cats. You did a tour of a Silent 60. I think the electric/hybrid style will sweep the industry. I personal want a Silent 60. You guys should contact them for a 2 day sea trial. If you guys could do a beginners guy into boating. Hard to find appropriate information on the subject. Thanks for the cool videos.
So, the answer to the question of Power vs Sail, in short, is "It depends." Glad you've confirmed my long-standing assumption. LOL Also glad that you mentioned solar powered catamarans, since that's the way I'd prefer to go...could you go over at some point what's missing with them, or what needs more progress, in order for them to be viable? REALLY curious about this, and love the idea of solar catamarans. EDIT: Oh, forgot! GREAT video, and loved the format, seeing both of you in front of the camera, sharing your ideas. And Happy Holidays , VICO!!!
Thank you so much for this video. You answered some very important questions for me about the pros and cons. Power cat would be the best for my needs. Getting plans to build a 40 footer... I've been teetering back and forth but now I've decided! Happy New Year guys and stay safe...
A power cat. Hands down. A leopard 52PC has a nautical mile range of 2,400 at 7 knots and 3,200 at 6 knots. I will take that any day over doing maybe 7 knots on average with the hassle of sails and rigging. Never mind eliminating the danger of moving forward on the deck because of problems in bad weather. I also value having clean useable areas that are not cluttered with ropes etc. Money being no object, I would buy a solar cat with generator backup.
Your comments lead me to believe you will find less compromise of your priorities in a power cat, especially as a live-aboard couple. Regarding the prospects of voyaging, I'm a live-aboard in SF Bay Area and I quickly submitted to an honesty that I have too much value to risk my home and possessions in a voyage outside the Gate. Additionally we have fantastic inland bays, delta, rivers and fabulous destinations, e.g., the wine country marinas. So I have more than enough yacht, to get that done on my PowerCat - I never considered sail. My 2018 Aquila 44 , full beam master, 2 staterooms with head (but I turned one into a full laundry, wardrobe and additional refrigeration and freezer), customized the starboard of the full beam salon into a long open office. Had no trouble extracting the furniture and appliances I wanted swapped-out (hard to do with a sailboat). And I also like that all my utility access is outside the salon, I don't need to move people and remove salon carpet panels to get to anything. I don't entertain, but my galley is at the rear where it belongs, fully open to the cockpit includes a snack-bar service window and nice when 3 friends come over to to watch the game or BBQ. A lot of times I pilot alone, so I like that my bridge opens 3 steps down to the bow deck, I might dash down there, get work done, still watch where I'm going. Is that the bulk of what you might value for your next all-purpose boat? Seems a boat designed around the needs of sail is a compromise to a lot of that.
So wise , Thank You. Personally I go with power , on the other hand the Electrics that You toured look like an interesting option . To me the problem with sail , How do you power the electronics ,the lights , the water maker and so on and of course the biggie manipulating the sail or sails . i do agree if you like the water whatever works for YOU . Happy New Year
I have been watching your channel for months and finally subscribed! I would love to see a first time yacht owners guide/tour! Maybe something in the 100 - 200k range that is used. Thank you!! I will definitely be watching all your great content. TY!
Rico I do believe you have a valid point concerning fumes. That is for the little girl boat owners. I can see in your eyes you are like me. Early morning startups, fumes are my drug of choice. Also changing sail to weather conditions seems lots of work. Especially night watch. Wake up the crew, out in the rain. I prefer adjusting the throttle, auto pilot and making a cup of coffee. Thats how a night watch should be. But thats my thoughts. Enjoy your unobstructded flybridge without worries of fishing out your wife.
Thanks guys! Great video with pros and cons. I have to say that I've been steering away from the near 30 min videos, but the subject peaked my interest. It was well worth the time. Sailing cat for me. I know there is much more work, but when you're 200mi at sea, what else is there to do? In spite of the mast in the salon and the tramps, there is still 1500 sq feet or more in a mid size cat.
Speed: if you have your boat based in your marina and you usually only have the weekend to go boating, with a faster boat your range of options of where to go can be massively bigger. After for example 5 years into boating from that same place, if you get a faster boat suddenly you can see new places. If your boat is twice as fast, basically your 'boating playground' is twice as large.
I can see it coming. Im going to write lots of comments here... First one. Power options. Sorry, you don't have another option in case both of your engines give out. You have the option to get somewhere if for some reason you can't sail any more (doldrums, dismasted, ...).
First, I hope you both had a wonderful Christmas and that the coming year makes up for the dumpster fire that was 2020! . From the sound of it, overall maintenance would probably be about equal between a sailing cat and a power cat of the same size. Power cat would need more drive maintenance, but with the sailing cat you have everything ELSE to take care of as well. . Someone else mentioned the "learning curve" with sail. That is so _SO_ true! Growing up, my grandparents had a 25-30 foot pilot house boat that we would use to go fishing on Lake Michigan with. I got so I could handle it pretty well. Fast forward to 1987 and I'm living with a cousin who owns a 27 foot Beneteau sail boat. DAMN did I ever have a lot to both learn _AND_ unlearn! Even after playing with a couple of the little Sunfish sailboats in years previous to that. . Where I would be likely to use a "yacht" would be primarily coastal and inland, so it would definitely be a power cat. I've been drooling over the Aquila 44 or the Arrowcat 420 as long as they can be built so the top can be lowered to clear 15'6" lol
Sail. Best of both worlds. Power (reasonably cheaply) when there is no wind or the wind is bad. Sail when you have wind. Plus redundancy. Power if something goes wrong with the sails (ripped sail or damaged rigging). Sail if something goes wrong with the motors (Both? Pretty rare. Out of fuel or bad fuel?) Cant really do big ocean crossings on a powercat - unless its really big. Then the fuel bill gets HUGE, but if you can afford a BIG powercat, then fuel costs probably aren't an issue for you.
Happy holidays to the both of you. I can’t wait to see what you bring us in 2021! I can check out all these same boats on other sites, but it would lack the passion, enthusiasm, and personality you bring 🙏🏻❤️
Besides a hull designed for a particular max speed, sailing hulls are aslo designed to compensate for the torque moment of the sailes. A motor hull can just focus on speed and the horizontal push of the propellers. Power cat has less interior hull space for the large engines, engine compartments and fuel tanks. Electric power cats (e.g Silent Yachts, Sunreef Eco, etc) falls somewhere inbetween, but deserves its own category.
Thank you for this... it took me a while to get around to this video... your vids are just so cool... But a PowerCat seems to be what I'll be going for... This video may be 2yrs old... but the topic is very important.... Thank you.
So what do you think of the new solar electric cats? Best of both world? You don't have to put the sails up. No engines to maintenance or noise and more solar panels. Do you think they are the future or not practical at this time. Silent Yachts and Alvar Yachts, opinions? I'm thinking of Alvar Eco60
I dream of having a power cat .. but y'all did one vid in France? with a totally solar source of power for everything. I'm wondering what the trade offs are between diesel and solar as far as maintenance costs for the solar power VS FUEL plus maintenance for the diesel. was great to see you two just sit and converse... y'all are so natural, and you have a great chemistry for keeping your viewers interested. stay in love
Happy Holidays! As to the question. As far as cats are concerned 100% sail over power. Of course I'm more interested in the performance cruisers vs the condomaran styles.
We have been researching sailing catamarans for a number of months with the intent to circumnavigate. Mid way through the process my wife asked about electric propulsion because she is not a fan of fuel or exhaust smells. There are sailing catamarans with electric propulsion (with commensurate solar and backup generators). My first thought was I like it. However, after thinking about it, if you have sufficient solar and backup generators, why do you need the sails? Maybe for high lattitude destinations? Electric propulsion is here, and I think it will mature fast. If you are going to live on a boat full time - bigger is better.
As a sailor, I cannot disagree with anything you've said here..except for maybe one thing; I don't know how fast power cats go, but there are some performance cruising sailing cats that can average 15+ knots, and are able to approach 30 knots with the right conditions. Also, those performance cruising sailing cats almost always have retractable dagger boards and rudders. I think the Gunboast 55 is about 2 feet of draft with the dagger boards and rudders up. I don't know how that compares with a power cat though. Something you mentioned, but I would like to reiterate, engine overhauls and/or replacements will happen much less often on a sailboat. This will make sailing cats much cheaper to maintain than power cats, even after you factor in rig/sail maintenance and replacement on the sailboat.
the power cat opens up who can drive the boat so to speak in the case of an emergency - injury, serious illness, etc. - and if it has solar panels, that's another back-up in case of emergency.
@@AB-ol5uz Almost all sailboats have an engine of some type. You don't necessarily need to know how to manage sails. You can just turn on the engine and treat it as a motor yacht.
WOW What a great and informative video We have plans to get a sailing catamaran, however self am not against a sailing monohull or even as more recently even a power boat As you mentioned, battery technology has come a long way, and this might be the big thing for us
@@NautiStyles Yep, battery technology is moving at a rapid pace Am quiet handy, to the point where currently am building a Powerball for the house using LiFePO4 - this is shared on my other channel "TechNando" The cherry on the cake would be to convert a catamaran or even a monohull to full electric Myself - having no sails or focil fuels Dry cells could be the future
You should really examine the viability of a battery only power plant before you jump head first into it. Currently, $8,000 worth of batteries nets you 10 nautical miles of range. Installing a big generator along with the electric propulsion would be a much better option, if you can afford it.
I would love to sail a catamaran around the world, but I get violently sea sick, no matter what medicine that I take. I watch lots of sailing channels and I get lots of enjoyment from them, because I don't have to sick and I don't have to feel how hot it is.
Great video, thanks. I've been looking for a review comparison video of both options and so glad to find yours. I plan on retiring in less than 5 years and moving to the southern Caribbean. I think I will go with a smaller power cat based on a lot of issues you brought up. I've noticed that some of the smaller cats use outboard engines. Would love to hear your opinions on the pros and cons of inboard vs outboard engines for power cats. I'm thinking outboard would be noisier but easier to have serviced and less wear and tear since you can tilt the outboards out of the water. Thanks, new subscriber!
Interesting video but I really think you are seriously underestimating Solar Powered Cats. Since you did the video on the Silent 55 they have redesigned things and are now building the Silent 60 with far better Batteries and Solar Panels and also Engines maybe. The shortest warranty I believe is the Batteries at 8 years. Solar Panels at 25 years and lifetime on the Engines. There is no power or sail Cat that will give you 8 years of almost zero cost running. I agree with you that technology in Solar and Batteries will improve over the next few years but I think it's a serious option right now.
I'd like to see a pro and con video on (power) catamaran vs. mono-hull (or why did you guys decide to go mono-hull?). Could also be something for your other channel.
Great video. Lot's to think about no matter which way you are leaning. My wife and I are now in the market for a 45'ish PC. Your PRO list has been a great confirmation bias for us! ;)
Please do a video on the Serenity 64 solar cat & the Lagoon Sixty7 power cat & Horizon PC60 & Leopard 53 Powercat & Heliotrope 65 solar hybrid & Hudson 56 Powercat. Long list :-)) ..
Great video, I have to pick the Bearing boats. Put a main telescoping Pole on one an another one that two people can set up at the bow for the small one and like Ricco said, get a huge kite to fly when you have the right winds to pull your boat ahead. You have the ground tackle there so you can use it if you unhook the chain and cables to put the kite rope or cable that comes with it. I just love the water and want to be on it. An when I die, pour half my ashes in the water and other half in the forest because I love nature. Land and sea is what this Universe has given us to live on and get our food from both sides of nature. I love you all, share Love because it's the most powerful energy in our Universe.
Can u please do a comparing between Silent Yachts 60, Silent Yachts 80, Sunreef Yachts 60, Sunreef Yachts 80 For example sail, range, only solar and so on.
The very biggest advantage of power above sailing is that a really huge powerboat I mean above 60ft you STILL can drive solo because of the manouvrebility where the sailing boats needs more hands on deck especially in narrow passages, (un)docking etc... If you have a big family whereas the wife takes care the kids (bit traditional, but hey....) And you HAVE to drive it solo because you don't want to have a crew.... Then the powerboat offer much more comfort and possibilities. And now withe the solar boats the fumes are also gone..... If I could get my hands on a silent yacht 90.... Boy what great THAT would be.... My dream yacht 😁😁😁
I'll choose power boats every day of the week but, you forgot to mention what I consider the best part of sailing and that is the fact that with sailing, you take out the biggest point of fire ignition there is on a boat. On a sailing boat you might have a fire while using the galley (which you should be more than prepared to take out) or by having a short behind the dishwasher during the night (because of moisture + lack of maintenance) but that's pretty much it.
Happy Holidays NAUTI World! We will see you in the LIVE CHAT during the PREMIERE 🙌🏻🙌🏻❤️ get ready for this “intense” discussion 😝🤣🙈🙈😉
Happy holidays guys!!! Love your channel.
I would like to see your thoughts about “Monohull versus Multihull”.
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For your lifestyle, I think you answered your question. Power. You are not world travelers. You don't need a sail cat. It's too labor intensive to sail. You really have to love all the work involved. You will be too busy running your volgs, and working as captains every once in a while. You can work on your diesel engines yourself, save money on labor. And as you mentioned, as electric tech. advances, you will eventually refit your yacht, or buy a new one. Sail is a pain in the neck for most. Looking forward to the fun you will have hunting for your next home.
Thanks Victoria and Rico, it was very interesting to hear your pro’s and con’s. Some of them I haven’t really thought of before. To own, I’m in team power cat. Where I live, nice weather often means no wind and proper wind means bad weather. A general pro to motorboats, in my opinion, is that they are more easy to operate short handed. Happy holidays!
Yeah, that’s definitely the dilemma 🙈 glad you found it interesting
You nailed it, any day on the water is a good day except when you drop your car keys overboard ... a friend did just that.
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@@pistonburner6448 🤣 did anyone catch your meaning. Freaking funny. 👍
I am an old dude whose body, after a lifetime of abuse, is starting to seize up. Even though I'm a sailor at heart I'm never likely to be able to undertake long ocean crossings or passages. So I think motoring would suit me better at this time of life.
Thanks again for an entertaining video.
I wish you both a Happy New Year.
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Great discussion on the power vs sail, Rico said it best, anytime you are cruising on the water is a great day. I would add to the power pro list, that the solo ability is much easier. I also agree once electric comes with better range ability that may even be better than power in that cost will be down in the long term. I apologize with my rambling but I have been going back and forth on this topic for a year and half.
Totally agree ‼️ Have owned 3 sailing monohulls. Our next boat (coming soon) will be a power catamaran 👍🏻 Can hardly wait.
It’s good to see Rico in front of the camera sharing his knowledge. 👍💯
👆But let’s not make a habit of it. Much rather see beautiful babydoll regularly rather than Rico. 😎💘💞
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@Konstantin Ridaya love Rico 🤙 Even his name is kool. 😂🤣
*Ahoy guys. I like your channel very much & you're helping me decide what I might need to go to in the future without my having to do the travel. (Smiles) So thanks for doing that legwork for me.*
*This is going to be a long post but I have a few disagreements on your narrative... and commentary on my future intentions. So I'll apologize in advance, in case I get long winded.*
@ 18:22 *When you're talking about "Lightning Strikes" ... Any boat/ yacht/ ship can & will be struck by lightning. If the mast and hull materials create a prime lightning rod, then you can add a strap from the mast, into the water. If you add a conductive strap or rope, infused with metal, from the base of your mast, and drop the trailing end a meter or so into the water ... Even if your mast is struck, your electronics are likely going to survive and most assuredly, the boat will sustain no, to little damage. I started using the conductive straps in storms after my 34 foot Hunter power cruiser was struck and fried and I didn'thavethisadd-on. Then my 38 foot Hans Christian Cutter rig sailboat was struck off the Florida Coast & the conductive strap saved that one. Then a friend's 65 foot Chris Craft was struck, he had deployed the conductive rope, and his electronics were fine. I don't know why manufacturers don't add this simple, and fairly inexpensive, item ... but it's worth looking into if you're going to plan to sail/motor in inclement weather.*
@ 19:21 *You seemed to relay that you think a Power Yacht is "Safer in a Storm" because a sail might tear, or something in the rigging may break. I've been through Tropical Storms with both, Power & Sail. And I've been through a Hurricane with Sailboats and one 82 foot Point Class Coast Guard Cutter. I'll place my life's bet on the Sailboat every time. They're made for rough seas and (typically) if you're breaking rigging and tearing sails ... you have either neglected the vessel to the point of abuse ... or ... you're overpowering the boat (and the rigging) FAR beyond the specs and allowance for safety in those conditions.*
*Throughput the video, you mentioned "Parts & Maintenance" often. I guess this is a good time to unite my last thought on your comments and my future plans.*
*Yes, parts for clutches, rigging, winches, sail repair, etc, are all necessary on a sailboat. But "Cost Wise" over the life of your cruising life, it works out about the same (or a little cheaper) than a power boat.*
*That's considering, (as I plan to sail), that you're "under sail" with the engines off, at least 85% of the time that you're not on the hook.*
*Engines burn a lot of fuel. And to "inframe overhaul" a large Diesel engine isn't cheap. And that cost goes up significantly, when it comes time to completely remove the old engines and replace them with new ones ... after the life of the block has expired and they can't be "inframe overhauled" again.*
*With sails ... if you actually "sail" ... those costs come much further apart and the "engine swap" comes much, much later.*
*Which now brings to mind a "Safety Issue" that i hadn't considered before: ...*
*Let's say that we are running together, 500 miles offshore,... you in a Power Cat and Me in my Sailing Cat. We both take a Lightning Strike...*
*Now ... with the new "Electronic Controlled Technology" in today's Diesel Engines ... I can manually hoist the sails and get back to shore. Or at least to a shipping lane, or coastline, where I can signal for help.*
*You ... you, on the other hand. Well, my friends ... you're pretty much dead in the water & for all intents and purposes ... you're now Poseidon's Bitch.*
*I plan to find a Sailboat, in good shape, in the 50 to 65 foot range. Sail around the World,... no schedule other than weather. And with today's technology, there is little reason to be caught in bad (hurricane or tropical storm) weather or strong tides unexpectedly.*
*Then I plan to find a few "favorite" places, and follow the fishing, the sun ... and the bikini-clad girls.* LOL
*Those were just a few of my thoughts. I probably wouldn't have posted anything ... but you did ask.*
*Fair winds and following seas to you. Thanks for the work you put into your channel. Be well & see you on the beach somewhere ... someday.*
Another great video! Thansk again for the info! For me, it would be the power cat! Sailing has a coolness to it, but you have a big learning curve to sail properly, and it is a lot of work. For cruising, spending a weekend, and island hopping without much work and time loss, power cat all day. Also, pretty much anyone that has operated a power boat, can jump in into a power cat and get going (minimal learning), not so with a sail cat
By the way, you forgot to say that the sails and cables and couplings and rigging, everything will have to be changed from time to time. and if we take a short period of time, then the sail is more profitable, but if we take 5-10 years of boat ownership, then the motor will be cheaper
Learning curve involved with sailing vs motoring. There are so many more aspects that you will need to know to sail vs motoring.
Thats is very True!
True but even if you’ choose to motor sail you will benefit greatly if you know how to sail
Overall a good look at the pros and cons of power versus sail for catamarans. The one point I would add, which you somewhat covered under maintenance, is the additional cost of sailing versus fuel burnt. The cost of replacing rigging, standing and running, and sails and covers which power boats don't have. I also have to added a thought on the "hate" between power and sail. I agree completely with Rico on this subject if you like boats you like all boats, power or sail. The problem is the people who operate them.
A power cat is the direction I'm leaning. Looking forward to see the solar powered Cats mature.
can't wait to see the sunreef power eco line
If this crypto BS works out that's where I'm leaning too.
@@ungoyone same
I think the way to go is a 60 ft Eco Power cat with max solar panels, electric engines and backup generator.
The Sunreef eco and the 62 ft silent yacht seem to be the top picks.
Also another pro of power cats is way less movement both at anchor and underway.
The mast sways around way more = more seasickness.
Fantastic information here and your points also apply to monohulls. I lived on a wooden ketch in south Florida/Bahamas for almost a year. I agree completely with your assessments. In that time, I bet that I sailed fewer than 40 days. Most time underway was spent motoring/motor sailing because of unfavorable wind conditions versus water depth. Additionally, I had to change the jib to a storm sail in 7 ft seas once (this was before roller furling) and that was sufficient adventure for a life time. Love your channel.
Yay! The answer to last weeks live chat question. I can’t wait to watch it. Also, didn’t expect a video during the holiday weekend. Thank you for the content.
Every Saturday 😝 no weekends off 🙌🏻
Greetings from Iowa. Thanks for another great video, with the low temps and a big winter storm coming in the next three days, I get a warm feeling watching your videos.
Thanks for watching John! Stay safe and warm
I'm a regular viewer and a Patreon member, but I'm getting to this particular one late and it's really helpful. I think my biggest concern with sailing catamarans is that even now, when so many are built for a singlehand sailor, it's just way too much work just to keep it up. You said that a sailing cat is more of a full time job, and that's a problem for my family, all of whom are older and not fully healthy. We feel that we can handle the work involved in a power cat, but... well, there's a reason people tend to define long-distance sailing as "working on your boat in a lot of exotic locations." 🤣
I'm concerned by the range issues, though, and I'm seriously considering buying a power cat and getting the power train converted to solar-electric, which really does seem to be the best of both worlds. I can't afford the Silent Yachts because they're so new, but an older power model that gets reconfigured is affordable even with the $100k cost or so to get the conversion done. I know you need to feed the batteries from more then the sun sometimes anyway, but from what I can tell, if you're willing to cruise slowly, not too often. Hopefully that'll let us eke out enough to be safe on long distance passages!
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Another great video! You will need to do this comparison again in the not so distant future. The increasing number of E Cats will require it. Some would say they will have a list from the best of the best from both of your lists.
Personal choice is power. Mainly because it would be a family boat and I would have to handle it mainly solo so power is easier. Also, most voyages would be coastal so power would be easier navigation for me. Great video as always!
Thanks, definitely power. The lack of overall maintenance is a plus.
Please provide more more motor catamaran videos.
Thank you
More to come!
Hi Guys! Great episode. I am working towards building a fully electric liveaboard powercat between 45-55 and I agree, in 3-4 years time we will see a big change in the propulsion system. I also want to add a kite to the powercat "Sky sails" it will drive you and recharge your batteries. My favoriet design, with a few changes is the Aquanaut from the Italian hull designer Officina Armare.
You think a current power cat will be easily retrofitted to an all electric cat when the time will come (
An interesting topic, for me the question that would make me decide, would be the type of navigation. In case of voyages of many miles, the choice would be the sail, otherwise it would be the engine. Although living in the north, the inland helm that a motor catamaran provides is very tempting. In my case, the question is between two Fountaine Pajot models, the MY 40 and the Isla 40 and for now, I think the Isla has more points to be my refuge once I retire.
How about a tour of a larger Silent Yacht catamaran.....Best of both worlds.
Electric + Solar = best of both worlds. Just a little bit too expensive currently
Looking forward to touring the 80 when we get a chance
@@NautiStyles 60 might be more interesting. I think they almost built one.
Happy Holidays NautilusStyles, I've always been a fan of motor-sailers like the venerable Fisher. Nice boats, also nice that they have a pilothouse, and not everything below the waterline :)
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Hi Guys, You compliment each other well, Victoria is all about the gadgets and storage while Rico is about the "Meat and Potoes"! being the motor and mechanics and ease of driving the boat,etc.
Hi Victoria & Rico, a sailing catamaran is more climats -friendly emittiert less Co 2 and is less fuel-dependent on longer trips. Power catamaran are for people who love high speeds and want to get from A to B quickly. But both are joy an fun ⛵🛥⚓
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Rico, I would argue any day waking up next to Victoria, on the water or not, would be a good day. She is a catch!
Ive always had a negative impression of sailboats, but the Catamaran review made me reconsider. So much so that Ive been looking at the Leopard 50 in great detail.
No way! Interesting, well this should get you thinking even more
We will take delivery of a leopard 50 in summer 21. Can’t wait, so excited!
Nadja, I'm envious...congratulations
Im a storm restoration company and we don’t work winter months. That being said, We believe a sail options would best fit our interest to sail from the us to iceland and see the reverse waterfalls.thanks we appreciate all your videos. Keep them coming.
I would love to see a video specifically over the power boat range and what types get the best range with the different types of hulls. That would be something I am extremely interested in. Thank you for your awesome videos.
Absolutely loved this.'Point/Counter-Point' talk of the varieties.I'd like Solar,with generator back-up.The flexible panels now may be developed into verticle for sail/power charge.Thank you 2 for this past years sanity in a crazy world.
Wind is free! No limits!
"The journey is the destination" is the phrase you were looking for.
Thinking deeper on this it would depend on how I wanted to use it. Shorter Island hops and time constraints or long voyages and no time constraints. Fuel costs could be expensive, but time also has value.
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Exactly , it really only comes down to a question of distance.
How FAR do you intend to go?
If it is often a significant distance ....sail is hands down the only option to consider . Fuel costs are unbelievably high.
If you just intend to operate the vessel around it's home berth on fairly short hops. Or routinely offer charter services to the same ports of call. Motor cat is the only option to consider . The added space and speed equal more income from more turnover of trips and charters.
Going 8knots with a power cat is relatively inexpensive (I think 20 Liter per hour!?)
Happy New Year, Victoria and Rico! I think that we will all be glad to see 2020 SAIL or POWER into the sunset!
Agreed! But we did “gain” all of you guys in our lives this year, so feeling a little bitter-sweet
@@NautiStyles The growth of your channel is definitely a positive for this year!✨🛥🎥
I spent more time with my kids, so it wasn’t all bad!
@@brentparks3669 My son had to cancel his plans to visit me, but I’m thankful that we are OK. Be safe.
Loved this video. You guys talked about electric cats. You did a tour of a Silent 60. I think the electric/hybrid style will sweep the industry.
I personal want a Silent 60. You guys should contact them for a 2 day sea trial.
If you guys could do a beginners guy into boating. Hard to find appropriate information on the subject. Thanks for the cool videos.
We did a tour of the silent 55, and looking forward to touring the 80
So, the answer to the question of Power vs Sail, in short, is "It depends." Glad you've confirmed my long-standing assumption. LOL Also glad that you mentioned solar powered catamarans, since that's the way I'd prefer to go...could you go over at some point what's missing with them, or what needs more progress, in order for them to be viable? REALLY curious about this, and love the idea of solar catamarans.
EDIT: Oh, forgot! GREAT video, and loved the format, seeing both of you in front of the camera, sharing your ideas. And Happy Holidays , VICO!!!
Thank you so much for this video. You answered some very important questions for me about the pros and cons. Power cat would be the best for my needs. Getting plans to build a 40 footer... I've been teetering back and forth but now I've decided! Happy New Year guys and stay safe...
Glad it was helpful!
Build yourself?
Allseas 92 was your best vid! Do more with builder or architect :)
One of my favorites
Thank you so much for your detailed pros and Cons video on power vs sails -it helped me make the right choice for me and my family
A power cat. Hands down. A leopard 52PC has a nautical mile range of 2,400 at 7 knots and 3,200 at 6 knots. I will take that any day over doing maybe 7 knots on average with the hassle of sails and rigging. Never mind eliminating the danger of moving forward on the deck because of problems in bad weather. I also value having clean useable areas that are not cluttered with ropes etc. Money being no object, I would buy a solar cat with generator backup.
all valid point 👌🏻👌🏻
Terrific video. Lots of great information. Things I hadn’t even thought of. Love you guys. Merry Christmas. 👍👍
Your comments lead me to believe you will find less compromise of your priorities in a power cat, especially as a live-aboard couple.
Regarding the prospects of voyaging, I'm a live-aboard in SF Bay Area and I quickly submitted to an honesty that I have too much value to risk my home and possessions in a voyage outside the Gate. Additionally we have fantastic inland bays, delta, rivers and fabulous destinations, e.g., the wine country marinas. So I have more than enough yacht, to get that done on my PowerCat - I never considered sail.
My 2018 Aquila 44 , full beam master, 2 staterooms with head (but I turned one into a full laundry, wardrobe and additional refrigeration and freezer), customized the starboard of the full beam salon into a long open office. Had no trouble extracting the furniture and appliances I wanted swapped-out (hard to do with a sailboat). And I also like that all my utility access is outside the salon, I don't need to move people and remove salon carpet panels to get to anything.
I don't entertain, but my galley is at the rear where it belongs, fully open to the cockpit includes a snack-bar service window and nice when 3 friends come over to to watch the game or BBQ. A lot of times I pilot alone, so I like that my bridge opens 3 steps down to the bow deck, I might dash down there, get work done, still watch where I'm going.
Is that the bulk of what you might value for your next all-purpose boat? Seems a boat designed around the needs of sail is a compromise to a lot of that.
The first Nordhavn 80s should be stateside soon. I’d love to see you walk through one of them! Great work!
Definitely going to film this one!
Thanks to you both for the knowledge that you always share...
So wise , Thank You. Personally I go with power , on the other hand the Electrics that You toured look like an interesting option . To me the problem with sail , How do you power the electronics ,the lights , the water maker and so on and of course the biggie manipulating the sail or sails . i do agree if you like the water whatever works for YOU . Happy New Year
I have been watching your channel for months and finally subscribed! I would love to see a first time yacht owners guide/tour! Maybe something in the 100 - 200k range that is used. Thank you!! I will definitely be watching all your great content. TY!
Welcome aboard! will do very soon!
I never stop learning from your channel. This was a very unique video. Thank You!
Rico I do believe you have a valid point concerning fumes. That is for the little girl boat owners. I can see in your eyes you are like me. Early morning startups, fumes are my drug of choice. Also changing sail to weather conditions seems lots of work. Especially night watch. Wake up the crew, out in the rain. I prefer adjusting the throttle, auto pilot and making a cup of coffee. Thats how a night watch should be. But thats my thoughts. Enjoy your unobstructded flybridge without worries of fishing out your wife.
Thanks guys! Great video with pros and cons. I have to say that I've been steering away from the near 30 min videos, but the subject peaked my interest. It was well worth the time. Sailing cat for me. I know there is much more work, but when you're 200mi at sea, what else is there to do? In spite of the mast in the salon and the tramps, there is still 1500 sq feet or more in a mid size cat.
Speed: if you have your boat based in your marina and you usually only have the weekend to go boating, with a faster boat your range of options of where to go can be massively bigger. After for example 5 years into boating from that same place, if you get a faster boat suddenly you can see new places.
If your boat is twice as fast, basically your 'boating playground' is twice as large.
Power boats only... Can you make a tour also on the smaller boats 30+ size..with cabin only? That’s would be great!
We can definitely do that. What brands are you interested in?
Sea ray Sundancer, Chapparal, Rinker, Monterey, Regal, Formula cruisers only please ;). Also what is your option between these brands?
I can see it coming. Im going to write lots of comments here...
First one. Power options. Sorry, you don't have another option in case both of your engines give out. You have the option to get somewhere if for some reason you can't sail any more (doldrums, dismasted, ...).
solar powered cataraman like the silent 80 is the dream
Hope you both had a wonderful Christmas... Wishing you (in advance) a Happy New Year..
Same to you! happy holidays
Victoria: "...or a painkiller maybe." LOL! Now that would be an entertaining episode of NautiStyles!
First, I hope you both had a wonderful Christmas and that the coming year makes up for the dumpster fire that was 2020!
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From the sound of it, overall maintenance would probably be about equal between a sailing cat and a power cat of the same size. Power cat would need more drive maintenance, but with the sailing cat you have everything ELSE to take care of as well.
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Someone else mentioned the "learning curve" with sail. That is so _SO_ true! Growing up, my grandparents had a 25-30 foot pilot house boat that we would use to go fishing on Lake Michigan with. I got so I could handle it pretty well. Fast forward to 1987 and I'm living with a cousin who owns a 27 foot Beneteau sail boat. DAMN did I ever have a lot to both learn _AND_ unlearn! Even after playing with a couple of the little Sunfish sailboats in years previous to that.
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Where I would be likely to use a "yacht" would be primarily coastal and inland, so it would definitely be a power cat. I've been drooling over the Aquila 44 or the Arrowcat 420 as long as they can be built so the top can be lowered to clear 15'6" lol
Sail. Best of both worlds. Power (reasonably cheaply) when there is no wind or the wind is bad. Sail when you have wind.
Plus redundancy. Power if something goes wrong with the sails (ripped sail or damaged rigging). Sail if something goes wrong with the motors (Both? Pretty rare. Out of fuel or bad fuel?)
Cant really do big ocean crossings on a powercat - unless its really big. Then the fuel bill gets HUGE, but if you can afford a BIG powercat, then fuel costs probably aren't an issue for you.
The sail is a redundant fail safe system for propulsion. A must have.
Love this channel 😎
That outfit is very flattering on you.
Happy holidays to the both of you. I can’t wait to see what you bring us in 2021! I can check out all these same boats on other sites, but it would lack the passion, enthusiasm, and personality you bring 🙏🏻❤️
Thx
Besides a hull designed for a particular max speed, sailing hulls are aslo designed to compensate for the torque moment of the sailes. A motor hull can just focus on speed and the horizontal push of the propellers.
Power cat has less interior hull space for the large engines, engine compartments and fuel tanks.
Electric power cats (e.g Silent Yachts, Sunreef Eco, etc) falls somewhere inbetween, but deserves its own category.
Thank you for this... it took me a while to get around to this video... your vids are just so cool... But a PowerCat seems to be what I'll be going for... This video may be 2yrs old... but the topic is very important.... Thank you.
So what do you think of the new solar electric cats? Best of both world? You don't have to put the sails up. No engines to maintenance or noise and more solar panels. Do you think they are the future or not practical at this time. Silent Yachts and Alvar Yachts, opinions? I'm thinking of Alvar Eco60
Great video! Thank you so much, this is exactly a question I am trying to answer.
Glad it was helpful!
I dream of having a power cat .. but y'all did one vid in France? with a totally solar source of power for everything. I'm wondering what the trade offs are between diesel and solar as far as maintenance costs for the solar power VS FUEL plus maintenance for the diesel.
was great to see you two just sit and converse...
y'all are so natural, and you have a great chemistry for keeping your viewers interested.
stay in love
I like to watch you two, keep filming you have great videos
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I want to learn more about electric power cats!
Solar Powercats with kite sails..... expensive right now, but it seems to be very appealing and useful.
Hope you kids are having a good holiday 🙏😘
Thanks Robert! Spending it with Rico’s parents
Another awesome vid guys! 🇨🇦 having sailed on one, and always volunteered to put up the storm sail, I’d go for the powered.
fair enough
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Happy Holidays! As to the question. As far as cats are concerned 100% sail over power. Of course I'm more interested in the performance cruisers vs the condomaran styles.
We have been researching sailing catamarans for a number of months with the intent to circumnavigate. Mid way through the process my wife asked about electric propulsion because she is not a fan of fuel or exhaust smells. There are sailing catamarans with electric propulsion (with commensurate solar and backup generators). My first thought was I like it. However, after thinking about it, if you have sufficient solar and backup generators, why do you need the sails? Maybe for high lattitude destinations? Electric propulsion is here, and I think it will mature fast. If you are going to live on a boat full time - bigger is better.
As a sailor, I cannot disagree with anything you've said here..except for maybe one thing; I don't know how fast power cats go, but there are some performance cruising sailing cats that can average 15+ knots, and are able to approach 30 knots with the right conditions. Also, those performance cruising sailing cats almost always have retractable dagger boards and rudders. I think the Gunboast 55 is about 2 feet of draft with the dagger boards and rudders up. I don't know how that compares with a power cat though.
Something you mentioned, but I would like to reiterate, engine overhauls and/or replacements will happen much less often on a sailboat. This will make sailing cats much cheaper to maintain than power cats, even after you factor in rig/sail maintenance and replacement on the sailboat.
the power cat opens up who can drive the boat so to speak in the case of an emergency - injury, serious illness, etc. - and if it has solar panels, that's another back-up in case of emergency.
@@AB-ol5uz Almost all sailboats have an engine of some type. You don't necessarily need to know how to manage sails. You can just turn on the engine and treat it as a motor yacht.
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What a great and informative video
We have plans to get a sailing catamaran, however self am not against a sailing monohull or even as more recently even a power boat
As you mentioned, battery technology has come a long way, and this might be the big thing for us
Thanks for sharing, if you have a couple of years to wait, it will be sooo much more advanced 🙈
@@NautiStyles
Yep, battery technology is moving at a rapid pace
Am quiet handy, to the point where currently am building a Powerball for the house using LiFePO4 - this is shared on my other channel "TechNando"
The cherry on the cake would be to convert a catamaran or even a monohull to full electric Myself - having no sails or focil fuels
Dry cells could be the future
You should really examine the viability of a battery only power plant before you jump head first into it. Currently, $8,000 worth of batteries nets you 10 nautical miles of range. Installing a big generator along with the electric propulsion would be a much better option, if you can afford it.
I would love to sail a catamaran around the world, but I get violently sea sick, no matter what medicine that I take. I watch lots of sailing channels and I get lots of enjoyment from them, because I don't have to sick and I don't have to feel how hot it is.
Great video, thanks. I've been looking for a review comparison video of both options and so glad to find yours. I plan on retiring in less than 5 years and moving to the southern Caribbean. I think I will go with a smaller power cat based on a lot of issues you brought up. I've noticed that some of the smaller cats use outboard engines. Would love to hear your opinions on the pros and cons of inboard vs outboard engines for power cats. I'm thinking outboard would be noisier but easier to have serviced and less wear and tear since you can tilt the outboards out of the water. Thanks, new subscriber!
Merry Christmas!
You should review the silence 60 electric Catamaran
The older model sunreef power 70 is my dream cat. Has a range of 4000 nm.
Interesting video but I really think you are seriously underestimating Solar Powered Cats. Since you did the video on the Silent 55 they have redesigned things and are now building the Silent 60 with far better Batteries and Solar Panels and also Engines maybe. The shortest warranty I believe is the Batteries at 8 years. Solar Panels at 25 years and lifetime on the Engines. There is no power or sail Cat that will give you 8 years of almost zero cost running. I agree with you that technology in Solar and Batteries will improve over the next few years but I think it's a serious option right now.
Merry Christmas to you guys.
А все смотрю, смотрю и думаю)) А Виктория то наш человек! Ай молодец какая))
lol 😜😂 spasibochki!
Power catamaran for fishing and pleasure or travel
I'd like to see a pro and con video on (power) catamaran vs. mono-hull (or why did you guys decide to go mono-hull?). Could also be something for your other channel.
Great video. Lot's to think about no matter which way you are leaning. My wife and I are now in the market for a 45'ish PC. Your PRO list has been a great confirmation bias for us! ;)
Just found your site a few hours ago. I am completely addicted.. Someone push me away from my computer. ;)
No keep watching 😜
Ooow yeeeaaay! So glad you are enjoying it so much 🙌🏻🙏🏻 make sure to sub and turn your notifications on
power cat , parachute , lee boards ? thoughts ,ultimate soler electric
Please do a video on the Serenity 64 solar cat & the Lagoon Sixty7 power cat & Horizon PC60 & Leopard 53 Powercat & Heliotrope 65 solar hybrid & Hudson 56 Powercat. Long list :-)) ..
Thoughts on the aventura line of catamarans?
Great video, I have to pick the Bearing boats. Put a main telescoping Pole on one an another one that two people can set up at the bow for the small one and like Ricco said, get a huge kite to fly when you have the right winds to pull your boat ahead. You have the ground tackle there so you can use it if you unhook the chain and cables to put the kite rope or cable that comes with it. I just love the water and want to be on it. An when I die, pour half my ashes in the water and other half in the forest because I love nature. Land and sea is what this Universe has given us to live on and get our food from both sides of nature. I love you all, share Love because it's the most powerful energy in our Universe.
Can u please do a comparing between Silent Yachts 60, Silent Yachts 80, Sunreef Yachts 60, Sunreef Yachts 80
For example sail, range, only solar and so on.
The very biggest advantage of power above sailing is that a really huge powerboat I mean above 60ft you STILL can drive solo because of the manouvrebility where the sailing boats needs more hands on deck especially in narrow passages, (un)docking etc... If you have a big family whereas the wife takes care the kids (bit traditional, but hey....) And you HAVE to drive it solo because you don't want to have a crew.... Then the powerboat offer much more comfort and possibilities.
And now withe the solar boats the fumes are also gone..... If I could get my hands on a silent yacht 90.... Boy what great THAT would be.... My dream yacht 😁😁😁
So you can get a power cat up on a plane? Didn't know that. Also a sail cat is more stable due to the wind pressure on the sails.
I'll choose power boats every day of the week but, you forgot to mention what I consider the best part of sailing and that is the fact that with sailing, you take out the biggest point of fire ignition there is on a boat. On a sailing boat you might have a fire while using the galley (which you should be more than prepared to take out) or by having a short behind the dishwasher during the night (because of moisture + lack of maintenance) but that's pretty much it.
Always a winner, thanks guys.
Thanks for watching Alan
@@NautiStyles I am going to FB now. I can't believe I never got hooked up there. Doing it now. I love you guys.