Yushan Chen Do you think this nsx can beat current GTLM cars like the Porsche RSR, Ford GT, C7R? Also how fast do you think a current GT500 car will lap Tsukuba?
Great questions! I'm saying no to the first one. To be fair, it is unclear whether the ARTA NSX was running at its race trim, or an all out trim similar to the 919 EVO. However, the three cars you've mentioned, the RSR, C7R, and the GT are all essentially supercars to begin with, and in competition, they're built to run for 24 hrs straight, whereas the ARTA car is built for sprint races that're much shorter. But still, those GTLM cars are still crazy fast, so if you put a, say, a Ford GT GTLM car on Tsukuba, with the car UNCORKED and the team focused on just getting ONE RECORD LAP, the car can certainly do better than the NSX. Now I said those GTLM cars are supercars to start with, the NSX is a bona fide supercar as well, yet it's limited by the 280hp policy, which hampers its potential. When the designing team designed the car, they know the intentions of putting the NSX into motorsports, yet having 280hp as the power goal in stock form inevitably means that the structures of the car were designed to handle 280hp reliably, and that was it, the motorsport branch can modify it to suit the different conditions. The Ford GT, meanwhile, makes around 500hp stock, so from day 1 that car has a much higher potential, since the requirements are much, much higher to begin with. This is like comparing a 6'2 guy vs a 6'8 guy when it comes to basketball. The shorter guy could end up being better, but the taller guy is better off from the start since his height is better suited for basketball. Another thing that needs to be addressed is the fact that the team support has improved alot. From tires to the pneumatic jacks to the electronics on the car and in the pits to the means of data acquisition to the talent and experience of the team, it's just not the same. Still using the Ford GT GTLM as the example, the campaign behind the car is international, so expect the team to be international. This brings in a lot more talent and experience than the ARTA team, which is all Japanese. Not saying the Japanese are bad at racing (I would be a fool for saying so), yet one country can only have so much to offer. Track prep is a big factor, though I don't think that area has changed much since Tsuchiya's lap, not much TO change anyways.
Still on the first question, the GT is a turbo car, while the NSX isn't. It's common knowledge that turbo cars have better lowend and midrange engine performance, while the N/A setup, especially on a highly tuned racecar like the ARTA NSX, the power is up top, no doubt. The ARTA team clearly solved the problem through the gearing, and the results speak for themselves. But the fastest cars in Tsukuba are all turbo cars, so the inherent advantage of the turbo setup is clear. The NSX is maxed out at 480hp, which is just the beginning for the GT. The GT could safely make a couple hundred hp more, which impacts the laptime significantly, don't think just because the track is short without long straights, power wouldn't matter much. It does matter!
Man, I'm on a tangent for that first question! Too much to talk about. My thoughts also revolve around overall weight, weight distribution, tire sizes, aerodynamics, driver skill, power output characteristics, and many more things that I can't think of right now.
The second question is tough, I assume you mean the current Super GT GT500 car. Without talking too much, my answer is this: If it doesn't, it means that the series hasn't improved much, which is a real shame.
As a musician this NSX sounds achingly beautiful. High revving NA engines are already a thing of the past. Hybrids, turbos and of course.....😢 electric😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Fun fact Tsuchiya san said because tsukuba circuit never get in the list for jgtc the team don't have correct gear ratio for the gearbox what they can do is only the final gear,suspension setting,adjust the rear wing,front canard,and tire,if his team have correct gear ratio for the gearbox he said the car can do 0.5 or 0.6 second faster
480 hp from 3.5L V6. I wonder how high the revving of the engine. 911 GT3-R got 8250 rpm from 4.0L flat-6. I guess this one could reach 9500 rpm, or even more.
To be fair, the record he broke as well was for the touring class, which was the fastest time ever set on the circuit Also, certain classes may be limited to the tire they can use, hence why non-touring cars competing in time attacks uses a lot of aero. As far as I know, they're limited to semi-slicks at most, and what allowed tsuchiya to run the car at that time is him having slicks... That's why it also took a long time before someone broke the record, which was done by Under Suzuki...
He said "ill drive till i die" hahaha what a fucking legend
Still watching this (2023)!
So back in 2004 1150kg 480 hp car drove 51 sec. Amazing
Its not the car that set this lap time that much is obvios,. its all about the driver
@@kilianfirebolt So please drive a stock prius to break this record
@@hokamto7754 okay smartass you know what ye meant
he is a living legend....
Just want to point out that this thing ran a 51 second lap while having 480hp and being NA
Yushan Chen Do you think this nsx can beat current GTLM cars like the Porsche RSR, Ford GT, C7R? Also how fast do you think a current GT500 car will lap Tsukuba?
Great questions! I'm saying no to the first one. To be fair, it is unclear whether the ARTA NSX was running at its race trim, or an all out trim similar to the 919 EVO. However, the three cars you've mentioned, the RSR, C7R, and the GT are all essentially supercars to begin with, and in competition, they're built to run for 24 hrs straight, whereas the ARTA car is built for sprint races that're much shorter. But still, those GTLM cars are still crazy fast, so if you put a, say, a Ford GT GTLM car on Tsukuba, with the car UNCORKED and the team focused on just getting ONE RECORD LAP, the car can certainly do better than the NSX. Now I said those GTLM cars are supercars to start with, the NSX is a bona fide supercar as well, yet it's limited by the 280hp policy, which hampers its potential. When the designing team designed the car, they know the intentions of putting the NSX into motorsports, yet having 280hp as the power goal in stock form inevitably means that the structures of the car were designed to handle 280hp reliably, and that was it, the motorsport branch can modify it to suit the different conditions. The Ford GT, meanwhile, makes around 500hp stock, so from day 1 that car has a much higher potential, since the requirements are much, much higher to begin with. This is like comparing a 6'2 guy vs a 6'8 guy when it comes to basketball. The shorter guy could end up being better, but the taller guy is better off from the start since his height is better suited for basketball. Another thing that needs to be addressed is the fact that the team support has improved alot. From tires to the pneumatic jacks to the electronics on the car and in the pits to the means of data acquisition to the talent and experience of the team, it's just not the same. Still using the Ford GT GTLM as the example, the campaign behind the car is international, so expect the team to be international. This brings in a lot more talent and experience than the ARTA team, which is all Japanese. Not saying the Japanese are bad at racing (I would be a fool for saying so), yet one country can only have so much to offer. Track prep is a big factor, though I don't think that area has changed much since Tsuchiya's lap, not much TO change anyways.
Still on the first question, the GT is a turbo car, while the NSX isn't. It's common knowledge that turbo cars have better lowend and midrange engine performance, while the N/A setup, especially on a highly tuned racecar like the ARTA NSX, the power is up top, no doubt. The ARTA team clearly solved the problem through the gearing, and the results speak for themselves. But the fastest cars in Tsukuba are all turbo cars, so the inherent advantage of the turbo setup is clear. The NSX is maxed out at 480hp, which is just the beginning for the GT. The GT could safely make a couple hundred hp more, which impacts the laptime significantly, don't think just because the track is short without long straights, power wouldn't matter much. It does matter!
Man, I'm on a tangent for that first question! Too much to talk about. My thoughts also revolve around overall weight, weight distribution, tire sizes, aerodynamics, driver skill, power output characteristics, and many more things that I can't think of right now.
The second question is tough, I assume you mean the current Super GT GT500 car. Without talking too much, my answer is this: If it doesn't, it means that the series hasn't improved much, which is a real shame.
Keiichi Tsuchiya is immaculate.
But Taniguchi is younger and have better lap time in many case.
breaks course record on practice lap, and im split on liking this video..cant get me to break that 86 likes on a tsuchiya vid!
As a musician this NSX sounds achingly beautiful. High revving NA engines are already a thing of the past. Hybrids, turbos and of course.....😢 electric😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Me when I cry over battery 🤡🤡
Very very light seeing it accelerate. The way it's accelerate makes me high
imagine if it was on a warmer day where the road is warmer.
i know i was playing GT 4, but man 53 seconds on this track using supra just kills me man, I even used a shitty line!
How is the engine tuned? Out sound so smooth
No VTEC and exhaust
Fun fact Tsuchiya san said because tsukuba circuit never get in the list for jgtc the team don't have correct gear ratio for the gearbox what they can do is only the final gear,suspension setting,adjust the rear wing,front canard,and tire,if his team have correct gear ratio for the gearbox he said the car can do 0.5 or 0.6 second faster
good point! I can definitely see where he was banging limiter and the gear was slightly too short during the lap
This car sound like 90's F1car. Awesome
The sound of that V6 is NASTY
Amazing skills
Thaaaaaaat sound!
i am not crying u are 🦄
This year we will see the last NSX 😢 in SuperGT
@@majorgrub1730 yet another years . its all about time !!!!
480 hp from 3.5L V6.
I wonder how high the revving of the engine.
911 GT3-R got 8250 rpm from 4.0L flat-6.
I guess this one could reach 9500 rpm, or even more.
The engine can certainly ran over 10k rpm, but it was limited within 9k-10k (I don't remember) for durability, iirc
Whoa
51?????? bruh I've been watching all attack vids and 54 was the fastest I've seen and it is on mad aero kits
To be fair, the record he broke as well was for the touring class, which was the fastest time ever set on the circuit
Also, certain classes may be limited to the tire they can use, hence why non-touring cars competing in time attacks uses a lot of aero. As far as I know, they're limited to semi-slicks at most, and what allowed tsuchiya to run the car at that time is him having slicks...
That's why it also took a long time before someone broke the record, which was done by Under Suzuki...
time stamp for the course record before tsuchiya broke it was on 1:56
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