You are right about not wanting to paint using it it will not work smoothly and as it gets harder to lower and raise be careful not to smash or pinch your hands.
@@davidcastano4760 to keep the Xtend+Climb ladder in tip top shape, remember to wipe the stiles off. You can use Pledge wipes. Spray the ladder with a dry silicon spray on stiles and thumb tab area to help if it gets wet. The dry silicon prevents a vapor seal on the dampening system which when sealed causes difficulty in extending and retracting. Once the water dries internally the ladder functions normally again. If you start retracting from your highest reach there is a safety feature that leaves a gap to ensure your hands and fingers are protected while retracting the ladder down.
Jenny Brouillette to late I already took it apart it had a good run with me and for the price was well worth it. There are like a thin sleeve system inside and you are absolutely right it’s very important to keep it clean. Thank you
No I wouldn’t use the cheaper one. I’m 210 pounds and I often have 30 pound tool bags on so I need something extra sturdy. I’ve been looking for a telescopic ladder for convenience and portability, but haven’t found one I’m impressed with for the money yet.
Thanks for posting. Your review helped make my decision to purchase the Xtend+Climb Pro Series 785P+. Now that I'm into my 70's, I needed to sell my trusted 24' Werner Type 1A fiberglass extension ladder. I downsized to a small, one-story age-in-place home on a slab with little storage options. I bought the 785P+ ladder from Home Depot online. I tried it out and it fits my needs. It isn't heavy and it stores compactly. I cannot foresee a need to climb/work higher than 14' on my new house except to check my security cameras or clean a short-run gutter area. No more climbing on roofs or working on chimneys. I think I got the perfect ladder thanks to you. For any other climbing needs, I'll just write the check to a younger person to make the needed repairs.
I HAD the cheaper ladder and now have the Xtend. Two things- the Xtend las much better feet- they’re softer and grip better on hardwood floors. My wife came down 12 feet when the cheaper ladder slipped on hardwood and crashed. We bought the Xtend ladder and the extra money is ABSOLUTELY worth it. The cheaper ladder is hard to set up for height if its not fully extended, you really can’t select your height. The Xtend is more difficult to take down with the extra buttons & levers but actually works if you need partial height. We bought the 780P+ 12.5’ Xtend and again, it’s absolutely worth the extra money.
A $120 ladder vs, a $400 ladder? Thank you for the review! If I were a professional and used a ladder every day, the Extend Climb would be my choice. If I were a home owner who needed a ladder occasionally, the LionLadder is a winner!
This is a great option for a homeowner who only needs access to a ladder like this a few times a year. It stores easily and is non intrusive in my garage. I wouldn’t everyday use with this but it is perfect for the few times a year I need it.
I love how your production value has gotten so good!! I have just started watching your videos and seen your stuff from even 2 years ago. Thanks for investing in better cameras and audio
Informative video, if not a bit verbose. I absolutely endorse the professional-grade telescoping ladders (with the thumb release) and have used them for close to a decade - so much so, that I no longer have a "traditional" extension ladder. Their durability and compact dimensions make them ideal - including circumstances where an A-Frame becomes impractical (such as corners above deep kitchen cabinetry, starwells and tight perimeters) and especially for space-saving implementation like storage. As for the "flexing" aspect that seems to bother some individuals - you'll get used to it over time (as you would any ladder or scaffolding, since each has a different feel) and regarding the life of the product, as always, it depends upon how well people care for their equipment. The longevity of any piece of equipment can be extended with proper care and maintenance. Negligence will have the predicted outcome.
would you recommend it for bigger people like me. I weigh 280 and am always wary of ladders let alone ones that have that give but I would need something like this for the business I'm starting up
Appreciate the thorough review. I am a homeowner, not a professional but you convinced me to get the Xtend+climb instead of a cheaper ladder. The Xtend+climb seems to be a much safer ladder based on your review. Good luck with your videos.
If they are anything like me they'll be waiting at the bottom to finish what they started! If I do that, you really shouldn't have done whatever it is that you did! 😂
I purchased a yellow extend ladder at Sam's club about 10 years ago from a traveling show. It looks like the small.ladder but works like your pro ladder. I LOVE the ladder. I was very afraid of the bounce when I first used it. I'm 260lbs. Now I run up and down it with zero fear. Mine has the green dots too. If you don't see a green dot and walk up that ladder that wrong will fall down on you. I know it happened to me. Also, if you drop a wrong with you web of your thumb in side the wrong it will hurt BADLY!. My ladder stopped moving up and down so I don't use it anymore. I miss it... need a new one
Mark Xtend+Climb ladders are ANSI certified and tested with 4 times the weight to pass ANSI certification. The Lion is a EN131 certified ladder and is tested with the weight advertised on the ladder. The certifications are very different. ANSI is more stringent with their requirements.
The "shock absorber" Effect is just air. There's probably a small air escape hole and a decent seal on each section. The small air hole lets it collapse without pressurizing the sections but it also lets it collapse nice and slow.
It won’t ratchet from the top because those red buttons are pressed when the step collapses on the step below. It will only stay extended when there are no stops below to hit the step above and trigger collapse of the next section.
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Well, it looks pretty simple. You have buttons under steps, so when one step is fully folded it will push buttons to fold next one.
Just fyi: the fact that you have to extend from the bottom up is a demand in the EU. It prevents you from having a set of steps in the middle of the ladder, which you might miss when climbing down. So either it's fully extended or the none-extended steps are on the top .
I also don’t see the wide bar on the bottom of the ladder that they all seem to have here in the EU. This gives them more stability. Looks like EU rules are more strict ?
Really complete information. Bet I know more than some who both own and use it. Did not catch actual weight of ladders, probably my fault. Am 80yr old female THANK YOU FOREVER! JOAN FIELDS-COX in Hamilton, Ohio
I bought a 16' telescoping ladder recently. I tried using it, but it has so much bounce to it, I have zero confidence in it. It feels like it is just going to fold up. Might be good for going 6-10 feet up, but fully extended, no thanks, back to the extension ladder for me.
I believe a Werner standoff will fit on this ladder. I use it on mine. Much safer especially the higher you go. It places you off the building about a foot so a much better working position as you are no longer hugging the building while working. Check ladder pivot tool. That's a game changer too. Saw his video on it and immediately bought to of them.
Telescopic ladders are very convenient, easy to store and some are light enough to easily carry. However from a safety perspective you must consider the multiple points of failure at every single step. Most of the potential points of failure are hidden from view, there is often no warning when they fail. If easy storage is more important than your life, then this is the ladder for you. Check public records for lawsuits involving these ladders, many folks have had their lives changed forever when the ladder failed. Sometimes stepping off a roof and onto the ladder, that first step fails, then the whole ladder collapses resulting in death or TBI (traumatic brain injury). The common problem was there was no warning or indication that the ladder was about to fail. The ladder worked perfectly until it didn't. Extension ladders are the safest ladders made, all of the hardware is in plain sight. There are only 2 locks / latches for the whole ladder. If a lock has not engaged, you can see it before climbing the ladder. Checking out the ladder before each use will expose any damaged or lose parts.
I recently picked up the SocTone A-Frame/extension ladder. A-frame will allow for 12.5ft of height, and the extension allows for 16.5ft of of height. Is rated for $330 lbs and it even comes with a pair can/tool shelf that can be positioned anywhere on the ladder. I mostly use it in a step ladder configuration or the A-Frame. But I like it.
Glad he mentioned importance of cleanliness, so the telescopic action runs smoothly. That might make these ladders ideal for reaching high shelves. But it would seem to eliminate them from any task that is messy. Even using it to blow leaves out of gutters would risk getting debris into the telescoping mechanism. That is what I get from the video.
Seems like you showed preference for your ladder. You extended YOUR ladder quite effectively and without hesitation, while the other ladder, you would constantly pause, to allow the rungs to fall back down. Extend both at the same pace and action. At the 9:00 mark, you extended the lion with no problem.
Rodolfo Gomez Preference? I was merely showing you the two ladders for you to decide. Neither is MY LADDER. I own them both and one is better then the other and that is what I was showing.
It seems like the buttons on the Lion Ladder get depressed as the next step coming down. So. I think you can extend the ladder from the top, but you need to extend it all of the way to use it.
I have the $85 Amazon telescoping ladder and really like it. I bought it about 5 years ago to work on a rental house. It fits in my small car and is small enough to move around in the house alone. With all that said - it flex’s a lot and is scary for others. I climb it slowly every time just to make sure it’s clicked in properly. It has a 250lb weight limit, so if you are carrying something keep that in mind. I would worry about somebody not clicking the locks in properly and falling off
Hard to disengage, pins break, it's heavy, paint hinders it's ability to extend/retract, safety stickers fall off, flexs quite a bit, and it's the better of the two? Honestly I see potential in specific circumstances but that would limit it's use for me. We all have specialty tools that only get used every so often but when needed are a life saver. This goes in that category for me.
I was thinking of buying one, but changing my mind, thanks. Not good for spraying, pressure washing, sanding, since all this will cause maintenance issues that becomes more of a headache for myself and employees, I will continue using my 16' aluminum extension ladder.
The Xtend+Climb ladder are not recommended to get wet because the water causes a vapor seal on the dampening system which makes the ladders difficult to open and close until the water is evaporated. You can prevent this by using a dry silicone spray on the stiles
Question: I’ve been shopping for a ladder for doing home inspections. I have been comparing Xtend + Climb vs Little Giant and while I would love the compact size of Xtend + Climb, the Little Giant style ladders seem SOOOOO much more versatile and safe. Costco sells a 17 foot Little Giant for $199, but it’s on sale all the time for $149. Why would you pay $400+ for a ladder with far less features? Especially if you’re using it professionally. The only thing I can think of is you have a TINY car, but I was able to fit a 17 foot Little Giant into my small 2 seater sports car. It folds down to under 5 feet.
Maybe you could in your video, give the color combinations on the house your doing...i know this wasn't about painting tips....but this house behind you is a very nice color.. people are always looking for hood ideas...no more samples...lol
Near the beginning of the video you were showing that you need to open it from the top, which seems and looks kinda awkward - I plan on using this for an attic access, and I wouldnt have the room to do that. But then at 4:13 you show extending it essentially from the bottom up.
Thanks for the informative overview. I think I am looking for something to access the top of my hi-roof van from time to time or to access the sides of it which are about 9 feet up. I didn't want to rely on a typical mounted ladder to the back door, but also didn't want the ladder to take up storage space somewhere inside the vehicle given that it will need to become a permanent ficture in the event access to the roof to maintain various off grid accessories like solar panel wiring, antenas, or other items. Most of the items can be maintain once on top of the vehicle, for example an Air conditioner unit or fan housing. However, if the vehicle's side areas of the roof or side panels need to be accessed for maintenance or cleaning, then I would need to sustain myself up next to the vehicle in a manner which is supportive and does not damage the side of the vehicle (if I am limited to leaning the ladder up against the side of the van). I could use padding though, given that this would be an infrequent use requirement. I thought your mention of how dust, water affect the telescopic workings of these ladders was very important, and what is not "advertised" during other presentations.
Really Great vid, appreciate the effort. I AM in the market for a ladder, to store in and access the roof of my hightop van. One thing that I find especially puzzling about many of these on the market, is how they telescope from the bottom. What I mean is: say it’s extended 2/3 ... the remaining rungs are at the TOP. Seems as though that would be a little more “top heavy”, as opposed to the remaining rungs being at the BOTTOM. Am I the only one who sees that as a poor engineering example ? True, the first ‘step’ might be a bit tall, having the added collapsed rungs down low; however, I’d rather take a big step at bottom and have weight mass down low, than top “heavy” ... In looking at Many videos, I think that the “problem” is that the Chinese manufacturers simply make a Poor choice of photo-demonstration. They have images with the top rungs ‘bunched’, rather than (Logically) the bottom rungs ‘bunched’. It seems that they all (work) in proper ‘orientation’, just Poor marketing .... An example of my “concern” can be viewed in the Aldi Telescopic Ladder vid, as well as the LABEL on the Franklin Harbor Freight unit.
I just ordered the lion 12' but different mechanism and for light work inside like foyer painting and other not so tall areas I think I LL stay with it cause fits on any car and of course the extension ladders could be used on outside jobs. But am getting a few of these for inside jobs very light convenient and practical I used it today I loved it am staying with it
My lion ladder failed and I broke my leg. I weigh 160 pounds and use ladders every day. The non slip pads on the bottom are only held on by a little bit of glue. Do not trust it.
Basically, the red release mechanisms work when the rung collapses onto the one below it. If you ratchet from the top without *fully* extending the ladder one of the rungs will necessarily be sitting on the one below it, thus triggering the self-collapsing feature. 'Ya can't extend the ladder from the top halfway and expect it to stay. If you're only going to partially extend it, it's gotta be from the bottom, so none of the red levers are triggered.
Thanks for the review...I was gonna buy the original extend climb ladder awhile back..I found one at a second hand store...I started reading the reviews how the ladders would fail over time...the pins would get worn out and not ingauge..thus causing the person to fall...after I read about a few reported cases I passed....cool ladder tho...would be great for staircases with the pivot tool.thanks for the great review👍
6:07 Isn't it a bad idea (and dangerous) to lean a ladder against the side edge of a slanted roof? If the ladder is placed straight, it's only making contact at one point with the edge of the roof and thus would wiggle when someone climgs on , and the only way to get the ladder to contact the high and low parts of the roof is to slant the ladder laterally (and that's another no-no).Also, there is increased risk of the ladder to slide off the side of the roof from left to right.
I had the Extend And Climb and the buttons or latches broke off so the ladder did not function. There is a spring mechanism that fails. Tried to get a hold of customer service which was impossible. I would not purchase a ladder from them. I have had two that failed after paying a hefty price. I have been using these type of ladders since they started selling them and love them, however the only one that has lasted was the Telesteps which I highly recommend.
Falling from any ladder could be the last thing you ever do, so it's just not worth it to me to have any ladder that could collapse during use and should the locking mechanism ever fail your hitting the ground
Loving your channel ! Learning alot about the industry, can't wait to get my own thing going, it seems theirs plenty of opportunity for anyone who is willing!!!
I am not sure all telescoping ladders have similar designs or construction but if you own a telescoping ladder, get rid of it. They seem pretty safe and there were many good reviews on here and Amazon but this thing is extremely dangerous. The plastic seals that prevent the ladder from collapsing in on itself become detached and block the pins from engaging that lock the ladder runs in place. I am an older man and the fall would have killed me. Fortunately, I caught myself and hung on until my son could rescue me with another ladder. I know this ladder is very popular on Amazon but they are a death trap! Get rid of it. Once again, these are extremely dangerous. I have contacted the US Federal Product Safety Commission to issue a recall.
No one seems to know how to lock it or when it’s locked, this seems like a major flaw. I don’t understand how people review this ladder and are a little disappointed with this flaw. Isn’t this flaw an automatic fail. From what I gathered you need to extend ladder from bottom up (hold it sideways) you can’t extend the top part first unless you fully extend.
In the professional arena we don’t use this type of ladder. Homeowners and DIY types may like it but it can’t stand the heavy use we put our tools through. So, why does this matter, because both ladders are roughly the same price and why would you buy something that lasts 10% as long as the professional ladder?
Im a flatbed truck driver a Ladder is a tool we have for a once in a full moon time for climbing on loads about 13ft in the air. Would you recommend it for that?
The telescoping ladders are designed to have flex. Xtend+Climb locks foot by foot with steal locking pins on each side of the ladder. Each section is locked seperatley.
Pass. The Extend Climb could come in useful for tight spaces like a residential stairwell or behind a tight corner where a ladder won't go. Lion Ladder looks too flimsy to trust.
It slides down like that because of the positioning of the locking buttons. If somebody wants to kill you, they only have to press the 2 buttons on the lowest rung and the ladder will do the rest.😬
Thanks, good video. Wish I would have seen this before I bought the Lionladder, (the price was good at $65 for 12.5 ft.) But, the fact that you have to raise from the bottom up, makes this ladder pathetic. I needed it to raise up to attic door in ceiling but couldn't raise it high enough to reach because I couldn't reach top of ladder to continue raising. It's almost like you need to lay it down if raise beyond 7 feet. To which I couldn't do because I raising up though a cut-out in ceiling. Good idea, great concept, just poor execution.
You don't have to start from the bottom. They keep collapsing because it's pressing its own buttons. Start from the top one. Slide it up, it's locked. Then the next, etc. etc. Works perfectly fine starting from the top- the key is that you have to extend every section. What he is trying to do here is extend only some of the rungs, and leave the middle retracted for some unknown reason. Maybe it's just because he wants to sway people to the other ladder. I don't know why else you'd try to leave the middle collapsed. He literally extended the ladder from the top, which he said wasn't possible, after he said it couldn't be done. He did it and never even mentioned it. At 3:32 he just finished showing it collapse in on itself, and goes right into extending it from the top.
I do roofing and just run estimates. and I am trying to eliminate a ladder rack and they actually make one that goes 26' on amazon that would go up most 2 story houses. Not sure how flimsy it would be though😬
great info, i am so" happy "you made this video. they need to make a ladder that last like a craftsman Wrench.---Military Grade--- like the USA FOREVER STRONG. Military Grade..
Hi. I would like your review on the multipurpose folding ladder... i am very skeptical about it. However i think that is the most convenient for site visits and small work. However i fear the safety of my staff?
Michael, Dry silicone Spray is the only suggested lubricant for Xtend+Climb ladders. Anything petroleum based will form a gummy substance internally and make opening and closing challenging.
Keeper. I've seen you back roll stucco after spray. I'm thinking about painting my pad myself. Can I just use a roller and brush the rest? Stucco is like baby popcorn not textured.
The Xtend+Climb ladder that is shown has a 250lb duty rating ANSI Type 1; therefore is tested with 4 times that weight to pass the ANSI requirements for ANSI certification. The Lion is EN131 certification which are tested with the weight advertised.
So would you use it?
Paint Life TV... Chris, Yes I absolutely would under the right circumstances. As I mentioned above though, It wouldn't be a daily driver.
You are right about not wanting to paint using it it will not work smoothly and as it gets harder to lower and raise be careful not to smash or pinch your hands.
@@davidcastano4760 to keep the Xtend+Climb ladder in tip top shape, remember to wipe the stiles off. You can use Pledge wipes. Spray the ladder with a dry silicon spray on stiles and thumb tab area to help if it gets wet. The dry silicon prevents a vapor seal on the dampening system which when sealed causes difficulty in extending and retracting. Once the water dries internally the ladder functions normally again. If you start retracting from your highest reach there is a safety feature that leaves a gap to ensure your hands and fingers are protected while retracting the ladder down.
Jenny Brouillette to late I already took it apart it had a good run with me and for the price was well worth it. There are like a thin sleeve system inside and you are absolutely right it’s very important to keep it clean. Thank you
No I wouldn’t use the cheaper one. I’m 210 pounds and I often have 30 pound tool bags on so I need something extra sturdy. I’ve been looking for a telescopic ladder for convenience and portability, but haven’t found one I’m impressed with for the money yet.
Thanks for posting. Your review helped make my decision to purchase the Xtend+Climb Pro Series 785P+. Now that I'm into my 70's, I needed to sell my trusted 24' Werner Type 1A fiberglass extension ladder. I downsized to a small, one-story age-in-place home on a slab with little storage options. I bought the 785P+ ladder from Home Depot online. I tried it out and it fits my needs. It isn't heavy and it stores compactly. I cannot foresee a need to climb/work higher than 14' on my new house except to check my security cameras or clean a short-run gutter area. No more climbing on roofs or working on chimneys. I think I got the perfect ladder thanks to you. For any other climbing needs, I'll just write the check to a younger person to make the needed repairs.
I HAD the cheaper ladder and now have the Xtend. Two things- the Xtend las much better feet- they’re softer and grip better on hardwood floors. My wife came down 12 feet when the cheaper ladder slipped on hardwood and crashed. We bought the Xtend ladder and the extra money is ABSOLUTELY worth it. The cheaper ladder is hard to set up for height if its not fully extended, you really can’t select your height. The Xtend is more difficult to take down with the extra buttons & levers but actually works if you need partial height. We bought the 780P+ 12.5’ Xtend and again, it’s absolutely worth the extra money.
thanks for sharing
A $120 ladder vs, a $400 ladder? Thank you for the review! If I were a professional and used a ladder every day, the Extend Climb would be my choice. If I were a home owner who needed a ladder occasionally, the LionLadder is a winner!
This is a great option for a homeowner who only needs access to a ladder like this a few times a year. It stores easily and is non intrusive in my garage. I wouldn’t everyday use with this but it is perfect for the few times a year I need it.
I love how your production value has gotten so good!! I have just started watching your videos and seen your stuff from even 2 years ago. Thanks for investing in better cameras and audio
Informative video, if not a bit verbose.
I absolutely endorse the professional-grade telescoping ladders (with the thumb release) and have used them for close to a decade - so much so, that I no longer have a "traditional" extension ladder.
Their durability and compact dimensions make them ideal - including circumstances where an A-Frame becomes impractical (such as corners above deep kitchen cabinetry, starwells and tight perimeters) and especially for space-saving implementation like storage.
As for the "flexing" aspect that seems to bother some individuals - you'll get used to it over time (as you would any ladder or scaffolding, since each has a different feel) and regarding the life of the product, as always, it depends upon how well people care for their equipment. The longevity of any piece of equipment can be extended with proper care and maintenance. Negligence will have the predicted outcome.
would you recommend it for bigger people like me. I weigh 280 and am always wary of ladders let alone ones that have that give but I would need something like this for the business I'm starting up
Appreciate the thorough review. I am a homeowner, not a professional but you convinced me to get the Xtend+climb instead of a cheaper ladder. The Xtend+climb seems to be a much safer ladder based on your review. Good luck with your videos.
if someone pushes release buttons while I am on the ladder, they better be gone before I hit the ground
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If you survive the fall🤔
They’ll the landing pad.
If they are anything like me they'll be waiting at the bottom to finish what they started! If I do that, you really shouldn't have done whatever it is that you did! 😂
@@OGRH I wouldn't even push the release button. Only one rung would collapse. I bet the entire ladder can be pushed over just fine..😅
I purchased a yellow extend ladder at Sam's club about 10 years ago from a traveling show. It looks like the small.ladder but works like your pro ladder. I LOVE the ladder. I was very afraid of the bounce when I first used it. I'm 260lbs. Now I run up and down it with zero fear. Mine has the green dots too. If you don't see a green dot and walk up that ladder that wrong will fall down on you. I know it happened to me. Also, if you drop a wrong with you web of your thumb in side the wrong it will hurt BADLY!. My ladder stopped moving up and down so I don't use it anymore. I miss it... need a new one
Mark Xtend+Climb ladders are ANSI certified and tested with 4 times the weight to pass ANSI certification. The Lion is a EN131 certified ladder and is tested with the weight advertised on the ladder. The certifications are very different. ANSI is more stringent with their requirements.
The "shock absorber" Effect is just air. There's probably a small air escape hole and a decent seal on each section. The small air hole lets it collapse without pressurizing the sections but it also lets it collapse nice and slow.
It won’t ratchet from the top because those red buttons are pressed when the step collapses on the step below. It will only stay extended when there are no stops below to hit the step above and trigger collapse of the next section.
Well, it looks pretty simple. You have buttons under steps, so when one step is fully folded it will push buttons to fold next one.
Just fyi: the fact that you have to extend from the bottom up is a demand in the EU. It prevents you from having a set of steps in the middle of the ladder, which you might miss when climbing down. So either it's fully extended or the none-extended steps are on the top .
I also don’t see the wide bar on the bottom of the ladder that they all seem to have here in the EU. This gives them more stability. Looks like EU rules are more strict ?
6:45 cool
Really complete information. Bet I know more than some who both own and use it. Did not catch actual weight of ladders, probably my fault.
Am 80yr old female
THANK YOU FOREVER!
JOAN FIELDS-COX in Hamilton, Ohio
I bought a 16' telescoping ladder recently. I tried using it, but it has so much bounce to it, I have zero confidence in it. It feels like it is just going to fold up. Might be good for going 6-10 feet up, but fully extended, no thanks, back to the extension ladder for me.
I believe a Werner standoff will fit on this ladder. I use it on mine. Much safer especially the higher you go. It places you off the building about a foot so a much better working position as you are no longer hugging the building while working.
Check ladder pivot tool. That's a game changer too. Saw his video on it and immediately bought to of them.
The standoffs do work on Xtend+Climb ladders.
John Cena does diy, but seriously great reviews and content.
Thanks for creating and sharing this informative video on the telescope/extending ladders. Nice job.
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Telescopic ladders are very convenient, easy to store and some are light enough to easily carry. However from a safety perspective you must consider the multiple points of failure at every single step. Most of the potential points of failure are hidden from view, there is often no warning when they fail. If easy storage is more important than your life, then this is the ladder for you. Check public records for lawsuits involving these ladders, many folks have had their lives changed forever when the ladder failed. Sometimes stepping off a roof and onto the ladder, that first step fails, then the whole ladder collapses resulting in death or TBI (traumatic brain injury). The common problem was there was no warning or indication that the ladder was about to fail. The ladder worked perfectly until it didn't. Extension ladders are the safest ladders made, all of the hardware is in plain sight. There are only 2 locks / latches for the whole ladder. If a lock has not engaged, you can see it before climbing the ladder. Checking out the ladder before each use will expose any damaged or lose parts.
I love mine
I recently picked up the SocTone A-Frame/extension ladder.
A-frame will allow for 12.5ft of height, and the extension allows for 16.5ft of of height. Is rated for $330 lbs and it even comes with a pair can/tool shelf that can be positioned anywhere on the ladder.
I mostly use it in a step ladder configuration or the A-Frame. But I like it.
@handle1983 ~ Has the ladder collapsed on you yet, or have you had any issues...?...Do you go up as high as you can...?...Thank you...
Glad he mentioned importance of cleanliness, so the telescopic action runs smoothly. That might make these ladders ideal for reaching high shelves. But it would seem to eliminate them from any task that is messy. Even using it to blow leaves out of gutters would risk getting debris into the telescoping mechanism. That is what I get from the video.
Got one, learned it the hard way
Thumbs up for peanut
Seems like you showed preference for your ladder. You extended YOUR ladder quite effectively and without hesitation, while the other ladder, you would constantly pause, to allow the rungs to fall back down. Extend both at the same pace and action. At the 9:00 mark, you extended the lion with no problem.
The lion ladder doesn't even look well built
I see what you mean. I think he was just demonstrating how it doesn't positively lock
Rodolfo Gomez Preference? I was merely showing you the two ladders for you to decide. Neither is MY LADDER. I own them both and one is better then the other and that is what I was showing.
It seems like the buttons on the Lion Ladder get depressed as the next step coming down. So. I think you can extend the ladder from the top, but you need to extend it all of the way to use it.
Bingo!!
I have the $85 Amazon telescoping ladder and really like it. I bought it about 5 years ago to work on a rental house. It fits in my small car and is small enough to move around in the house alone.
With all that said - it flex’s a lot and is scary for others. I climb it slowly every time just to make sure it’s clicked in properly. It has a 250lb weight limit, so if you are carrying something keep that in mind.
I would worry about somebody not clicking the locks in properly and falling off
Good review. Was considering one. Thanks for explaining what to look for.
Never tried one I still haul around extension ladders. I need a paint life shirt though!! :)
Stevie Coffman II 🤙
Hard to disengage, pins break, it's heavy, paint hinders it's ability to extend/retract, safety stickers fall off, flexs quite a bit, and it's the better of the two?
Honestly I see potential in specific circumstances but that would limit it's use for me. We all have specialty tools that only get used every so often but when needed are a life saver. This goes in that category for me.
ANGELIC OUTCRY agreed
Spray the aluminum rails with paraffin spray like Pledge to help keep the paint from sticking to the aluminum.
Thanks for the info
I was thinking of buying one, but changing my mind, thanks. Not good for spraying, pressure washing, sanding, since all this will cause maintenance issues that becomes more of a headache for myself and employees, I will continue using my 16' aluminum extension ladder.
The Xtend+Climb ladder are not recommended to get wet because the water causes a vapor seal on the dampening system which makes the ladders difficult to open and close until the water is evaporated. You can prevent this by using a dry silicone spray on the stiles
Bought this for my Class B camper van. It's compact and that's what I wanted.
Nice
Excellent information, much needed, thanks!
Question: I’ve been shopping for a ladder for doing home inspections. I have been comparing Xtend + Climb vs Little Giant and while I would love the compact size of Xtend + Climb, the Little Giant style ladders seem SOOOOO much more versatile and safe.
Costco sells a 17 foot Little Giant for $199, but it’s on sale all the time for $149.
Why would you pay $400+ for a ladder with far less features? Especially if you’re using it professionally.
The only thing I can think of is you have a TINY car, but I was able to fit a 17 foot Little Giant into my small 2 seater sports car. It folds down to under 5 feet.
Maybe you could in your video, give the color combinations on the house your doing...i know this wasn't about painting tips....but this house behind you is a very nice color.. people are always looking for hood ideas...no more samples...lol
Near the beginning of the video you were showing that you need to open it from the top, which seems and looks kinda awkward - I plan on using this for an attic access, and I wouldnt have the room to do that. But then at 4:13 you show extending it essentially from the bottom up.
Excellent video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the informative overview.
I think I am looking for something to access the top of my hi-roof van from time to time or to access the sides of it which are about 9 feet up.
I didn't want to rely on a typical mounted ladder to the back door, but also didn't want the ladder to take up storage space somewhere inside the vehicle given that it will need to become a permanent ficture in the event access to the roof to maintain various off grid accessories like solar panel wiring, antenas, or other items. Most of the items can be maintain once on top of the vehicle, for example an Air conditioner unit or fan housing. However, if the vehicle's side areas of the roof or side panels need to be accessed for maintenance or cleaning, then I would need to sustain myself up next to the vehicle in a manner which is supportive and does not damage the side of the vehicle (if I am limited to leaning the ladder up against the side of the van).
I could use padding though, given that this would be an infrequent use requirement.
I thought your mention of how dust, water affect the telescopic workings of these ladders was very important, and what is not "advertised" during other presentations.
Really Great vid, appreciate the effort. I AM in the market for a ladder, to store in and access the roof of my hightop van. One thing that I find especially puzzling about many of these on the market, is how they telescope from the bottom. What I mean is: say it’s extended 2/3 ... the remaining rungs are at the TOP. Seems as though that would be a little more “top heavy”, as opposed to the remaining rungs being at the BOTTOM.
Am I the only one who sees that as a poor engineering example ? True, the first ‘step’ might be a bit tall, having the added collapsed rungs down low; however, I’d rather take a big step at bottom and have weight mass down low, than top “heavy” ...
In looking at Many videos, I think that the “problem” is that the Chinese manufacturers simply make a Poor choice of photo-demonstration. They have images with the top rungs ‘bunched’, rather than (Logically) the bottom rungs ‘bunched’. It seems that they all (work) in proper ‘orientation’, just Poor marketing ....
An example of my “concern” can be viewed in the Aldi Telescopic Ladder vid, as well as the LABEL on the Franklin Harbor Freight unit.
Went up 2 rungs on the Lion Ladder, lol. Can get the same height with a step up platform.
OK
Wow, thanks for this video instruction. I would have never guessed (even RTFM) that you must go from the bottom up first.
When he took the top and went consistent up, it worked. Can't stop.
I just ordered the lion 12' but different mechanism and for light work inside like foyer painting and other not so tall areas I think I LL stay with it cause fits on any car and of course the extension ladders could be used on outside jobs. But am getting a few of these for inside jobs very light convenient and practical I used it today I loved it am staying with it
My lion ladder failed and I broke my leg. I weigh 160 pounds and use ladders every day. The non slip pads on the bottom are only held on by a little bit of glue. Do not trust it.
Great video and great information we really appreciated 👍
I'm confused at 1:47 you say it only ratchets from the bottom up. But at 4:03 & 8:54 you ratchet it up from the top?
Basically, the red release mechanisms work when the rung collapses onto the one below it.
If you ratchet from the top without *fully* extending the ladder one of the rungs will necessarily be sitting on the one below it, thus triggering the self-collapsing feature.
'Ya can't extend the ladder from the top halfway and expect it to stay. If you're only going to partially extend it, it's gotta be from the bottom, so none of the red levers are triggered.
Thanks for the review...I was gonna buy the original extend climb ladder awhile back..I found one at a second hand store...I started reading the reviews how the ladders would fail over time...the pins would get worn out and not ingauge..thus causing the person to fall...after I read about a few reported cases I passed....cool ladder tho...would be great for staircases with the pivot tool.thanks for the great review👍
Like the shirt and hat designs
"They won't slip , I hope they don't slip" 😂😂😂😎
6:07 Isn't it a bad idea (and dangerous) to lean a ladder against the side edge of a slanted roof? If the ladder is placed straight, it's only making contact at one point with the edge of the roof and thus would wiggle when someone climgs on , and the only way to get the ladder to contact the high and low parts of the roof is to slant the ladder laterally (and that's another no-no).Also, there is increased risk of the ladder to slide off the side of the roof from left to right.
I had the Extend And Climb and the buttons or latches broke off so the ladder did not function. There is a spring mechanism that fails. Tried to get a hold of customer service
which was impossible. I would not purchase a ladder from them. I have had two that failed after paying a hefty price.
I have been using these type of ladders since they started selling them and love them, however the only one that has lasted was the Telesteps which I highly recommend.
Falling from any ladder could be the last thing you ever do, so it's just not worth it to me to have any ladder that could collapse during use and should the locking mechanism ever fail your hitting the ground
Rowdy Broomstick Yep
Loving your channel ! Learning alot about the industry, can't wait to get my own thing going, it seems theirs plenty of opportunity for anyone who is willing!!!
I am not sure all telescoping ladders have similar designs or construction but if you own a telescoping ladder, get rid of it. They seem pretty safe and there were many good reviews on here and Amazon but this thing is extremely dangerous. The plastic seals that prevent the ladder from collapsing in on itself become detached and block the pins from engaging that lock the ladder runs in place. I am an older man and the fall would have killed me. Fortunately, I caught myself and hung on until my son could rescue me with another ladder. I know this ladder is very popular on Amazon but they are a death trap! Get rid of it. Once again, these are extremely dangerous. I have contacted the US Federal Product Safety Commission to issue a recall.
Good video thanks looks.like a decent ladder but I dont like the flexing
No one seems to know how to lock it or when it’s locked, this seems like a major flaw. I don’t understand how people review this ladder and are a little disappointed with this flaw. Isn’t this flaw an automatic fail. From what I gathered you need to extend ladder from bottom up (hold it sideways) you can’t extend the top part first unless you fully extend.
they should add a leveling spirit to know the safe leaning angle and not bend in middle
So well ,I'm interested in it
Available in our store online
Really cool, I appreciate it
This Really Really helped me!! ❤️❤️❤️💯. Thanks.
In the professional arena we don’t use this type of ladder. Homeowners and DIY types may like it but it can’t stand the heavy use we put our tools through. So, why does this matter, because both ladders are roughly the same price and why would you buy something that lasts 10% as long as the professional ladder?
Im a flatbed truck driver a Ladder is a tool we have for a once in a full moon time for climbing on loads about 13ft in the air. Would you recommend it for that?
A little too floppy for me to trust! Maybe for the first floor climb only. I use the one that has a totally positive locking pin. Just my opinion.
chris simon agree
The telescoping ladders are designed to have flex. Xtend+Climb locks foot by foot with steal locking pins on each side of the ladder. Each section is locked seperatley.
Pass. The Extend Climb could come in useful for tight spaces like a residential stairwell or behind a tight corner where a ladder won't go. Lion Ladder looks too flimsy to trust.
It slides down like that because of the positioning of the locking buttons. If somebody wants to kill you, they only have to press the 2 buttons on the lowest rung and the ladder will do the rest.😬
Interesting concept. Ill stick with aluminum Werners...
Thanks, good video. Wish I would have seen this before I bought the Lionladder, (the price was good at $65 for 12.5 ft.) But, the fact that you have to raise from the bottom up, makes this ladder pathetic. I needed it to raise up to attic door in ceiling but couldn't raise it high enough to reach because I couldn't reach top of ladder to continue raising. It's almost like you need to lay it down if raise beyond 7 feet. To which I couldn't do because I raising up though a cut-out in ceiling.
Good idea, great concept, just poor execution.
You don't have to start from the bottom. They keep collapsing because it's pressing its own buttons. Start from the top one. Slide it up, it's locked. Then the next, etc. etc. Works perfectly fine starting from the top- the key is that you have to extend every section. What he is trying to do here is extend only some of the rungs, and leave the middle retracted for some unknown reason. Maybe it's just because he wants to sway people to the other ladder. I don't know why else you'd try to leave the middle collapsed. He literally extended the ladder from the top, which he said wasn't possible, after he said it couldn't be done. He did it and never even mentioned it. At 3:32 he just finished showing it collapse in on itself, and goes right into extending it from the top.
what about the Metal Tech pro 15.5 ft ladder? it has adjustable ehight - does the xtenbd climb have that function? good vid thanks
I do roofing and just run estimates. and I am trying to eliminate a ladder rack and they actually make one that goes 26' on amazon that would go up most 2 story houses. Not sure how flimsy it would be though😬
Oh you know lol
great info, i am so" happy "you made this video. they need to make a ladder that last like a craftsman Wrench.---Military Grade--- like the USA FOREVER STRONG. Military Grade..
Military grade is the lowest bidder..
Hi. I would like your review on the multipurpose folding ladder... i am very skeptical about it. However i think that is the most convenient for site visits and small work. However i fear the safety of my staff?
Hey Chris, enjoy your videos. Learning lots. May I suggest Silicone Spray rather than WD40 (which as you know is really not meant as a lubricant) Tks!
You do not want silicone on your hands if your going to be doing paint work
Michael, Dry silicone Spray is the only suggested lubricant for Xtend+Climb ladders. Anything petroleum based will form a gummy substance internally and make opening and closing challenging.
good idea but I just don't trust them yet.Maybe some kind of safety lock?
The main difference is the "recommended" brand is a sponsor.
If you have a load on the ladder, are the red button easy to push or they lock themselves under load ?
This guy took a hell of a time to wrap his head around having to extend it all the way if he starts from the top
So!
My wife likes the dog peanut!
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Q: how many pushups can you do?
Can it fit a professional into a Toyota Camry if I buy a 15 to 20 feet tall?
Yep
I'll use only for Emergency and use litle Giants for painting.
I just fell 15 feet onto concrete the other day because the locking mechanism failed on a little giant.
I want to find one that level legs available, I have use for one outside my home on uneven ground. Anyone Know of one?
🤣 At first he (pretended) couldn't pull up the Lion ladder then all of a sudden he pulled it up without any effort.
6:45 Did you name him peanut because of his shape? lol.
I liked the video for Peanut 😁
Can we get a video on power washers and extensions for cleaning houses + proccess of doing it right?
I am working on that currently and will be posted soon🤙
@@Idahopainter I've seen those high reach extension wands, but one that i found that reaches 12m high, costs $3k (in germany)...insane!
Keeper. I've seen you back roll stucco after spray. I'm thinking about painting my pad myself. Can I just use a roller and brush the rest? Stucco is like baby popcorn not textured.
I didn't need a latter all the time, but I look for the weight limit. Do you have the weight limit on the two latters?
The Xtend+Climb ladder that is shown has a 250lb duty rating ANSI Type 1; therefore is tested with 4 times that weight to pass the ANSI requirements for ANSI certification. The Lion is EN131 certification which are tested with the weight advertised.
So is the professional model is the best on the market ??? I heard that the swedish made telescopic is the best. So which one is the best ??? Thanks
Great Video.......................I love your dog peanut !
looking a compact telescopic fiberglass ladder of 28 ' that can fit inside of the van
you should try a telesteps, it is the best
How is your back now I hope better. Hey I’ve been painting for 20yrs plus I had back surgery to in 2012 and my back is all messed up agai
Never liked these types of ladders. I like the Werner telescoping ladder.
I'll stick to my trusty A frames until they make those better over time
With my gear im getting close to 330 pounds, you think its safe to use a 12 foot variant of the Xtend and climb ladder?
If theres pressure on the steeps you wont be able to push the buttons.
It looks like one could accidentally hit the thumb releases on the Extend Climb ladder. Is there something in the ladder that prevents that?
Hello did you notice the yellow thing at 2:30 in to the video between the 2 garage doors
It’s called a leaf
For the smaller one, can you turn it upside down and pull the bottom up first or do you need to keep a foot on it?
I can't see someone being able to push them red buttons while weights on it but I get the concern
Yep
@6:45 Peanut!
If somebody accidentally walks by and hits those two buttons.......really?