Thanks. Really useful video, in the kitchen actually the Pencil picked up a lot of room reverb, so ok a Shotgun could create a weird phasing effect, but a really light phasing effect is far better than a room reverb
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I agree, the 416 did very well in the reverb kitchen. I did hear some phasing but it was light and only for a few seconds. Cheers
The squeeze is definitely worth the juice. Mixed a movie almost exclusively int and ext with the Sanken CS3e. Perhaps I got lucky with the interior locations but my mkh50 only came in handy at niche situations.
think if you use a foam tube u ll be reducing the risk, it is like sound proofing the incoming sound instead of soundproofing the room, there are thincker foam tubes and also try the outfoor blimp without the foam tube,,,,the pencil in echoyyyrooms captures all the echoooo reverb, not the best, even though it is used mostly indoors it is used in open studios and or treated spaces where no reflections happen anyways ,,,not nevcessarily made for reverberant rooms for beginners for example
I want to buy a microphone for meetings where it will be positioned outside the frame. I heard that the Audio-Technica AT875R is a great value. Would it work in an untreated room?
Yep, in your “Christmas tree” room, I heard a weird thing close to phasing when you switched to the 416. It was a clean double of your voice and was more consistent that full on phasing, and some folks might actually like that sound. I might have liked it if you also didn’t start off with the AT mic…smile. The AT875R picked up your dialog more clearly, even though it also picked up sibilance, which might be fixed in post? I think the fun part of recording in “mix” rooms, unlike tracking rooms, most studios would not totally kill all areas of the studio for reflections. I think if you had a small cloud above the mic, above your speaking position, acoustic material behind the mic and your walls had a bit of treatment, I wouldn’t have heard as much phase on the 416? Anyway, your AT875R was less distracting for me. Good video by the way!
After you managed to invoke an Orwellian double-think moment for me from the theory vs. kitchen demo, I can't help asking: have you ever considered entering current politics?
Thanks. Really useful video, in the kitchen actually the Pencil picked up a lot of room reverb, so ok a Shotgun could create a weird phasing effect, but a really light phasing effect is far better than a room reverb
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I agree, the 416 did very well in the reverb kitchen. I did hear some phasing but it was light and only for a few seconds. Cheers
The squeeze is definitely worth the juice. Mixed a movie almost exclusively int and ext with the Sanken CS3e. Perhaps I got lucky with the interior locations but my mkh50 only came in handy at niche situations.
think if you use a foam tube u ll be reducing the risk, it is like sound proofing the incoming sound instead of soundproofing the room, there are thincker foam tubes and also try the outfoor blimp without the foam tube,,,,the pencil in echoyyyrooms captures all the echoooo reverb, not the best, even though it is used mostly indoors it is used in open studios and or treated spaces where no reflections happen anyways ,,,not nevcessarily made for reverberant rooms for beginners for example
All great points. Thanks for commenting.
What do you mean by foam tube? Blimp?
Didn't hear any phasing in the kitchen. The 416 sounded better in the kitchen, and the Sennheiser picked up all sorts of reflections.
The 416 did well. I was surprised too
Thanks for sharing. Interested in learning what is the audio chain from mic to what we’re hearing?
Coming soon!
I want to buy a microphone for meetings where it will be positioned outside the frame. I heard that the Audio-Technica AT875R is a great value. Would it work in an untreated room?
Indoor I would go with the one in this video, AT4053b
@@TomWadeCine Thanks!
Yep, in your “Christmas tree” room, I heard a weird thing close to phasing when you switched to the 416. It was a clean double of your voice and was more consistent that full on phasing, and some folks might actually like that sound. I might have liked it if you also didn’t start off with the AT mic…smile. The AT875R picked up your dialog more clearly, even though it also picked up sibilance, which might be fixed in post? I think the fun part of recording in “mix” rooms, unlike tracking rooms, most studios would not totally kill all areas of the studio for reflections. I think if you had a small cloud above the mic, above your speaking position, acoustic material behind the mic and your walls had a bit of treatment, I wouldn’t have heard as much phase on the 416? Anyway, your AT875R was less distracting for me. Good video by the way!
After you managed to invoke an Orwellian double-think moment for me from the theory vs. kitchen demo, I can't help asking: have you ever considered entering current politics?
all the time!
Which pencil mics are “comparable” for indoor film dialogue that are less in budget? Want the 600 for outdoor.
I got the at4053b used for $300
The 416 sounded way better
It did, such a great Mic