The scene with him and Truman was cool to see put to film. Oppenheimer thought he would make a connection with Truman by sharing his guilt in what he had done. He didn’t think about the person who authorized the actual use of the bomb. So when he tells Truman his guilt it comes off as an insult. Truman went through his own struggle with whether he should use it and the full weight and responsibility of it’s use fell onto him. Oppenheimer built the gun and loaded it, Truman pulled the trigger.
@@DamnitgarySo do you usually personally observe the creator of the gun taking primary blame for murders, mass-shootings, or things of that nature? If you do, fine- that’s your truth. I typically see blame go to the one who pulled the trigger, or the government that allowed guns to become so problematic. Oppenheimer is not free of responsibility, but to act like he’s the biggest bad for doing the thing he was instructed to seems off. All parties should be accountable, especially those who commissioned the device’s creation and those who ordered its use. But of course, your own opinions are valid homie.
@@Donovampire Yup, especially considering the inevitability of the A-Bomb being built, the use of it was however not inevitable and could have simply been avoided.
They actually shot part of the movie in Los Alamos and used actual scientists from the lab as a lot of the extras. I work at the lab and had the opportunity to shoot for about a week. It was an awesome experience.
That’s very cool! What sort of scientific field is it that you work in? Also, as a scientist, that is now working in Los Alamos, I’d feel a bit remiss if I didn’t at least ask you; How do you feel about towards Oppenheimer as an individual and how the film handled it, particularly with the haunting ending?
Thank Nolan for fighting with WB bc they released all their movies on HBO D1 Like Tom Cruise did with Paramount to keep the movie off of P+ for as long as possible Well done only seen top gun yet but i loved it Tho it was much later when it passed 1BN
To the brainlets saying how boring it was I'm guessing there wasn't enough explosions to hold your limited attention span. Perhaps you should have gone to watch Barbie with your boyfriends instead :)
Exactly, every country had their role, Germany half-inciting us with equal blame to fire it 3 months after they surrendered, Japan for running out of civilians to kill efficiently and "that virtually every top World War II U.S. military leader, including President (previously General) Eisenhower, went public after the war with statements suggesting that the use of the atomic bomb was unnecessary". Let's not even bother identifying the actor with the most "man's inhumanity to man" in WW2 in this particular situation, even Whoopee is impressed.
@@jamiehall-hanlon3104 wow it's almost like that was the point of the last scene. You and @FabTBC need to stop trying to sound intellectual, you sound silly.
Movie was awesome, everyone gave an A class acting job, everything was on point, sound, music, cinematography. I was surprised to see Gary Oldman, caught me off guard in a good way.
You'd think the bomb part would be awesome. After all, thanks to Michael Bay, we're used to explosions of all sizes on screen. But this is TERRIFYING. Straight down to the sound leading up to it. You just feel utter dread. Which is smart cinematography and writing.
@@TheRibottoStudiosOnly someone who has an understanding of the Manhatten Project will get what Nolan was trying to capture in this movie. I agree it was terrifyingly beautiful.
This is an Oscar caliber film. Excellent, casting, dialogue, and acting. There were many scenes that left me in awe. What we have to remember is the scientists involved in the Manhattan Project developed a weapon that forever changed warfare. Oppenheimer and his team opened the door to the destruction of world, which is a huge moral dilemma for all involved in the project. Best movie I have seen a long time. Oppenheimer’s girlfriend suffered from depression and committed suicide in real life.
And then sells you the prospect of these horrors as your local gas station going up in flames instead of swallowing ones pride and just use CGI composite shots.
My favorite part of the film was the test blast as it became utter silence and it was beautiful because then out of nowhere the blast sound reigns in and the whole theater jumps lol so wonderfully done.
I love that whole scene!!!! Especially when they were lying face down the opposite way and it became day for a second or two. The shock wave literally gave me a heart attack. Even the suspense with the count down had me on the edge of my seat. This movie is a modern day masterpiece 🤌
This movie found creative ways to show theme by looping plot points and ideas back around to different parts of the movie, by using visual cues and replaying different sounds. The color and the black and white scenes was really interesting and reminded me of his other movies. This truly feels like a culmination of Nolan's work and techniques into one movie.
@@functionatthejunctionI digress, I enjoyed the film from start to finish to each their own I guess! I liked it and he who doesn’t understand the history will be doomed to repeat it!
Really glad you guys went to see this. I read American Prometheus when it came out to prepare for a history class debate, and I still think about that book almost 20 years later.
@population-_-420A. “They act like two legends cannot coexist.” B. Barbie is a movie about one of the most popular toy brands of all time. Oppenheimer is a 3 hour long rated R biopic about a man falling apart because of what he did.
I started to lose some stamina at a certain point in the final act, but then the final 30 minutes hit us with so many satisfying moments that I didn't expect from a historical film and the very last scene just brought it all together like a star going supernova
Bro, yess. That ending was very cold and terrifying. When I saw it, people clapped and put their heads down as if they were very shocked on what it signified.
I like to think the last bit of the movie was intentional as it was supposed to help you empathize with Oppenheimer’s frustrations at having his life’s work taken away from him
I'm a plasma fusion physicist, this was such an experience for me to see on release. I was grinning the whole time. "You would say that to a humble physicist?" " i'll let you know when I meet such a Physicist" rofl
this movie was top notch I love Biopics and even more so about this man. I never felt bored or luud to sleep, I was awake and intrigued in the entire 3+ hours. well done.
This movie was phenomenal. The acting, the writing, the ost and cinematography. So many threads in this movie. Like scorpions, they both brought each other down. I did not feel the length, even though I drank a bunch of water before hand lol. My only ciritisim, is the audio mixing is off. Not to the extent as tenet, but it was off for a part of a scene. I plan on seeing it again. I pretty much spent all day at work thinking about this movie and talking to anyone who would listen.
Nolan says he intentionally messes up the audio so maybe thats why. I haven't seen it so I don't know if thats applicable to what you saw but apparently thats a thing he does if he believes you wouldn't hear whats going on clearly in a scene if you were there.
@@In-The-Zonexactly! Was about to explain it myself but you said it perfectly. In Tenet; in the middle of a gun fight or a battle in a war with explosions going off left and right, you would have trouble hearing what the person that’s even standing directly next to you is saying. It’s as if your tagging along on the journey of these characters as if you were actually there experiencing it firsthand as some kind of an invisible voyeuristic onlooker. Or maybe some sort of news journalist/videographer there to document the events taking place as historical archival footage. Just imagine this: The camera is you.
I agree. This is Nolan's most "pure film". As in if this should be in Academy Awards/Oscar buzz. Plus, the performances of Cillian Murphy and RDJ. Many cameos from other good actors. Its like who isnt in this film?! But not a movie for everyone. I can see many saying its "boring". But not if youre a thinker and appreciate directorial-style. Best "film" by Chris Nolan. Inception and The Dark Knight remain my personal favorites. But Oppenheimer is Nolan's "pure-cut diamond". 📽🎬💎
Weird I could have sworn i clicked on a Barbie movie review and this comment caught my attention. I was like "What all went down in that freaking Barbie movie!?" 😅
My great uncle worked on the Project, and Oppenheimer actually came to his house for dinner on occasion after the war. He died a long while ago, but I wish he could have been alive to see this film! Solid review.
@@mementomori8991 His name was Elmer Bokesch. He wasn't a major player, but he rubbed shoulders with them. He worked on the Dayton Project in Ohio, where they developed the reaction trigger mechanism for the nukes. He died back in 1971 due to "cancer".
The line that keeps getting to me is when he ask Albert “ you remember when we said there is a high chance we will cause a chain reaction in the atmosphere” he says something like “ yeah I remember” Oppenheimer responded with “ I think we did” the. It cuts to the last shot and you can read everything on his face and that last scene and shot terrified me I woke up thinking about it.
I think it was a chain reaction that destroys mankind. It takes balls the size of Jupiter to tell Einstein to his face that you’ve used his foundations to create a weapon that WILL likely at some point end humanity itself. Bruhhh
14:34 the actor’s name is Benny Safdie and he’s actually a really great director too. He made two films for A24; “Good Time” (which is credited as being the movie that landed Robert Pattinson The Batman) and “Uncut Gems”. Both are absolutely amazing films that I recommend every time I get the chance.
Anyone else find it funny that Christopher Nolan directs a film about Oppenheimer the father of the atomic bomb while his younger brother Jonathan Nolan is directing a Fallout show which in many ways can be seen as an alternate future where the American people embraced Nuclear power and the Atom Bomb rather than fear it. Oppenheimer gave birth to this possible future (Along with Enrico Fermi and his team who who created the first self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction) and I just find that amazing that the two brothers worked on two very different projects but both have massive connections by history. Oppenheimer in many ways is a prequal to Fallout.
@@TheCourier0613 Yep. It was revealed a few years back that Jonathan Nolan would be directing a Fallout TV show for Amazon with Todd Howard as Producer I believe. There was leaked pictures of them shooting the show and the art direction looked pulled from the games. No trailer yet but Jonathan Nolan did have a fun little video of him talking about Fallout but that's really it. Jonathan Nolan directed Westworld and was a writter on many of Nolans films like The Dark Knight so I have faith the series will be good. Filled with dark Satire and hopefully very bloody.
Knowing the espionage angle beforehand really helped contextualize the events shown in Oppenheimer. Also knowing what the Spanish Civil War entailed helped too. Great flick.
That might’ve been what was missing for me. I came in expecting it to be solely on the Manhattan Project, so a lot of the stuff outside it had me lost. I still don’t understand Straus hand in the whole thing. He seemed so much a side character but also a major character. I suppose I’ll need a rewatch and maybe read some to understand better.
Man, agreed. Even in his side character roles I enjoy watching his roles. Back in the day with 28 Days and Sunshine he was already engaging and then into the likes of Inception and finally here where I'd put money on this being his Oscar role.
Dude, right? Casey Affleck and Scott Grimes, as well. It's a testament to Nolan that he can bring in so many actors to do such small roles; some of these small roles were truly excellent for their time on screen, too. Malek has very little in this and yet his highlight during the film reminds us why he's an Oscar winner.
I love that about Nolan. He's like, what do I need auditions for? Tons of actors out there needing work, and their audition tapes are already on TV. Great guy.
Oppenheimer has a 100 mill. budget. That's low-ish for a Hollywood movie. So it doesn't have to appeal to a massive audience. But hopefully a lot of people go see it. It's a hugely important part of history as well as a huge philosophical question. PS: Cilian is pronounced Kilian
It was loud in my theater as well, but not enough to cause an issue with the dialog. So it seems like it may be a question of how well balanced the speaker system is in a given theater.
I watched this high and IMAX. I was absolutely stunned. I was leaning in and everything lol. I don’t blame the guy next to me falling asleep post the nuke test because the investigation was basically all the the last part. But was a great movie.
Being a History Nerd, I loved this film. It was pure oldschool Acting, that made you feel in the room. A+ Acting. The detail of emotions. Robert Downey Jr. was Out Of This World. Everyone bought their A+ Skiils. Major Thinking Movie! 3 hrs didn't bother me. I love detailed Movies. Bio Pics! That last hour was intensed with the Political Backroom Committees.
Was really disappointed with this film. As a biopic I don’t feel I have any more understanding of Oppenheimer. All I got out of it is that Oppenheimer is more of a theory man, had ties with communists but wasn’t overtly one, and had two wives. Yeah he seemed a bit remorseful for creating the bomb, but I didn’t see how those regrets really effected his life. I felt the dialogue was really hard to hear at times ( like most Nolan films) the editing and pacing was very choppy, and I think the vendetta Strauss had against Oppenheimer was VERY poorly explained. Like ok Oppenheimer might lose his security clearance but WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? What is he losing out on with that, and why is it so important that it’s the climax of the film and not the trinity tests or the bombing of Japan. The actual nuke itself was also pretty underwhelming. Would’ve been a much better film if it focused more on the logistics and struggles of figuring out the atom bomb, the race between the us and Germany( yes I know it comes up but it should’ve been THE central motivating force) the bombing of Japan ( actually show the horror of what happened instead of a very brief illusion) and then end it with how the affected Oppenheimer and go more into depth on the process of his opinions changing or him being more vocal on his opposition to the bombs. Strauss was a waste of time at least how he was used as well as the focus on Oppenheimer’s first wife which felt entirely pointless. Not to mention the casting was INSANELY distracting. I kept getting taken out of the film because every 30 seconds I was noticing a bigger named actor playing VERY minor roles. So yeah I think I’m in the minority but I’m really confused on all the love this is getting. This and Tenant have both been pretty big misses as someone who’s loved basically all of Nolan’s other films
are you me? i had the exact same thoughts. i want to add that the abstract shots of the actual science that's happening were placed extremely weird. there was no context given to what we were seeing. in my opinion they should've put those during the making of the bomb (which we also barely got to see.) i didn't hate it but it isn't a masterpiece that people say it is. the acting was the best part of the movie. i give it a 7 out of 10.
The film's subject was in the title. I heard a radio play about Oppenheimer, based on the same book, and you do not need the bomb itself to tell his story. Just saying.
@@BigHenFor they barely told us anything about his story like I said at the beginning of my comment. It somehow managed to not inform us much on who Oppenheimer was as a person or go deeply into the building of the bomb. Also nobody cares about anything he did besides building the bomb. That’d be like making a movie about John Lennon and not centering the plot around his music career.
Any time I think of them testing the bombs, I imagine something going wrong and the explosion being way more powerful than was calculated. Right at the moment as the fireball reaches the scientists one of them thinks to themselves "Damn, I forgot to carry the one".
Nolan has been hit or miss for me in his films. He will give you some 10/10 moments then have weird choices where it feels bloated and useless scenes. His best stuff is his earlier stuff imo.
@@JohnSmith-es3dn Interstellar has some 10/10 moments but also like 30m of dead time that could’ve been cut and some odd story choices, but I live for the 10/10 moments. A shame because it could’ve been such a tighter film but it’s still great.
I agree. Ever since Dark Knight Rises he is only making bad stuff, so we're talking about 10+ years of weak films. The plot of Interstellar is nonsensical, there's some really cool scenes here and there, but goddamn, nothing makes sense, the end is awful, etc Oppenheimer was like a "return to form", this movie is solid, still struggles with bloat and bad sound design tho. Also, I did not liked how Nolan "shielded" Oppenheimer, he never showed footage from the war, the horrific damage the bombs caused in Japan, etc.. nope, it was all off-screen, he showed Oppenheimer feeling "guilty", he suffering from panic attacks, etc.. even Einstein was toned down (he was completely against the bomb for good reason). Oppenheimer is not a "victim", hell no, the guy committed genocide (he analyzed and then chose the targets by the way, the movie barely addressed this). He is not a war hero, not a martyr, etc.. none of that
I don't mind if a film is boring. What I mind are pacing and story issues. I'm a child of boomers but not one myself, and I love TONS of 'boring' films. Have you ever seen *Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy?* That's a great spy film and about as 'boring' as a film could be. I had extremely high expectations for this film that I felt it did not live up to. I was expecting an epic biographical film like Stone's *JFK* or Lee's *Malcolm X.* Both of which not only should fit into a similar time frame for viewers, but could be considered boring. I love those films. This is a great film. It's just not a great Nolan film, and I think it's his worst movie. Having said that, Nolan's worst film is still better than 98% of films ever, so it's still REALLY good. Just not as good as I was hoping it would be...I was expecting to leave that theater Thursday night saying I just saw the year's best picture. I didn't feel that way when I actually left the theater. I think this film needed to be 20 minutes shorter and, EITHER, focus completely on the work done at (and leading up to) Los Alamos, OR, be a film about McCarthyism and it's impacts on Oppenheimer, Strauss, and society at large (and as a result our nuclear policy). Instead the film put one foot in both and didn't fully commit. Just my opinion. I am very happy others saw it and I am VERY HAPPY that the IMAX theater I saw it in (overseas in Thailand, which is how I saw it a day early) was packed, because that means we'll get more films from directors like Nolan, Villeneuve, etc. But I felt let down by this film.
@@technoCHOPS1134 I stand completely corrected then as I never heard that. Learned something new! Regardless though, my views on the film are the same. My point was I love many "boring" movies, and this movie being considered "boring" was not the reason I enjoyed it less than others. That was my main point in talking about being a "boomer." But thank you for teaching me that. I have never heard that term before for that position so I learned something new just now. Ty.
I’ve always had this morbid fascination with the Manhattan project and the creation of the atomic bombs. I’m so glad this movie was done so well. If Cillian Murphy doesn’t win an award for his performance I’m going to be salty.
3 hours and I was completely enraptured the entire movie. The Trinity Test was one of the most haunting theater experiences I've ever had. Cillian Murphy has always been an underrated actor, and he's finally been given a lead role and he absolutely shined. Easily the best performance of the year. I think this is easily Nolan's best film
oh yeah two goofs were: - oppenheimer (cillian's) ear lobes pierced - flag had 50 stars in post-bombing speech scene (in reality at the time it had 48)
makes you wonder, doesn't it? For the movie to be given 10/10, it would have to be amazing, not 'there's nothing really wrong with it' lol Paid review - but alas, these boys have to eat, too - c'est la vie
😂Dude Alex love the Barbie movie, hes a undercover shill and tried to be different but he's just like the other two, this show is a joke, it's all scripted.
@@RichyRich2607 Dosent mean perfection mate. But for this genre of film you’ll do well to see something better. Acting is top class, class Nolan. Brilliant film
Gonna be honest. I don’t have much interest in going to a theater anymore unless it’s a Christopher Nolan movie. Everything this guy puts out is just jaw dropping.
I wish they would have spent more time on the building the bomb Give some impetus to build by actually showing some of the war Then give more in-depth background on the genius minds brought together under oppenheimer Then walk us through the breakthroughs and engineering
The film is fantastic but Nolan STILL has issues with his audio mixing issues. How music always drowns out a good portion of dialogue and this movie, in parts; was even worse than Tenet. When there is dialogue of high minded theoretical physics happening and the music is blaring in the background, it makes it irritating. I don’t know why Nolan never improves on this aspect.
You're sure it's not a movie theater issue rather than the actual sound mixing? Didn't have that kind of problem at mine, granted it was in French but if anything you'd think the French dub could only be worse, I don't think it can beat the original.
@@nyrva2876 the dark knight rises also has it a bit. But mainly tenet and from reviews Oppenheimer. Chris stuckmann said he missed about 25 percent of the dialogue due to the sound mixing. Thats not good. Something to watch at home with subtitles on
Saw the film a few hours ago in imax in the UK, It was absolutely full you couldn't get any more people in to see this film, The last Nolan film like that was interstellar, Where every actor is giving it their all, No phoned in performances here, No whooping clapping or anything like that, Just people experiencing a biopic with a serious subject matter, The bit where all the scientists are celebrating in an Oppenheimer is giving the speech and he has visions when they all banging their feet on the floor, Reminds me when the allies made all radiation effects of the bombs dropped classified and didn't release the awful horrible footage of the japanese innocent civilians until the 1970s,
I watched this yesterday... I was worried about the 3 hour timing, but I honestly didn't feel like it was 3 hours, I was so engaged into the story that it honestly flew by.
Good movie. Pacing was a bit much. I feel like not a single scene was over a minute long. It just kept moving and felt like more of a montage of key moments - missing out on the gravity and emotion of certain big moments. To compare, this entire film is filmed like the montage in Inception when they are preparing their big plan before the plane flight. That’s the quickness of the pacing in Oppenheimer. Good movie, but not his best.
Goddamn incredible. I didn't feel the time at all! I'm a geek for history and all that space shit. The sound design, visuals & Cillian Murphy's performance 🔥
This movie was boring. No not because its not action filled, but because the story structure doesn't flow. The last 40 minutes of interrogation isnt worthy of a finale considering the natural climax of the movie ends with the scene where he visits President Trueman an hour before the end.
The movie was so amazing! Perhaps the best movie from Nolan I've seen. Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Jr were both fantastic. It is so great to have fascinating movies that makes you just think about it a lot afterwards.
Saw it in 15/70 imax on the biggest screen in the us (nyc) and holy shit. I’ve never been more in awe of seeing a film in large format. Just wow. If this doesnt sweep the Oscar’s it’ll be robbery
Interesting movie, but i definitely felt the length... ive never fallen asleep in a movie before and i could feel myself starting to doze off towards the end. Its really no wonder Nolan put lots of random unessicary exploding sounds and noises, thats to keep the audience awake and from falling asleep. If it wasn't for all the random bursts in volume, i could of easily has fallen asleep. Not a bad movie, but i doubt id watch it again.
@@realitycheck1086 I blame his ridiculous fanbase especially during the batman trilogy and inception days like holy cow, They oversold him way to freaking much and they we're insufferable.
Absolutely sensational!! This is my new favorite Nolan movie. It's always been The Dark Knight, and Dunkirk came close, but Nolan did it. This is his best work in my opinion. It's simpler to take an historical figure and make a biopic about them, but this movie transcends what a biopic can really be at the highest level. It felt unique, not like something I've seen but with a different historical person. Round of applause Christopher Nolan!!
This movie reminded me a lot of the Imitation Game, both about great individuals who served their countries in desperate times of need and get fucked over by the same governments afterwards.
It's very good but it's a taxing watch, well worth it though, you can't switch off for a second, as it switches constantly between timelines and is dense full of dialog, it is definitely not a casual film, its less a film about war & bombs, but more about Oppenheimers life Also as much as I love IMAX, I'm not sure it was actually necessary for this film, I remember watching Dunkirk in IMAX and came out absolutely blown away by the visuals and audio, less so with Oppenheimer as there isn't much action, that's not to say its not a good film, I just think if I'd watched it on the normal screen it would achieve the same result 8/10, if you have an interest in the subject then it's 100% worth the 3 hours of your time, if you're not really that bothered and just want to be entertained, you will be disappointed
Whilst I enjoyed the whole film, once the test is conducted, it feels like the film takes a dramatic step up for the final act. The acting and dialogue in that last act was legit some of the most engaging I've heard, especially from Strauss (Downey) and Robb (Jason Clarke). Also, though their parts are shorter, Hartnett, Malek, Dastmalcian and Casey Affleck absolutely killed their roles. Pure cinema and wonderful character acting and whilst I'm not always a fan of Nolan's work, this one was a treat to watch and had me engaged start to finish. The ending scene between Oppenheimer and Einstein (especially in context with what's been going on with Strauss) and the scene with the secretary and all the military leadership and scientists where they're deciding to do it and where to target... Both just emotionally wracking. Amazing film.
Tbh this felt like a 3 episode mini series to me. Every hour almost to the T focused on something. The first hour was his early life and his career and becoming the director, then the creation and detonation, then the aftermath and fallout of the creation and personal vendettas.
I felt the same time in dark knight. When two face shows up I thought it was sequel baiting but the movie just kept going. I guess Christopher Nolan just likes doing that.
Tenet gave my friends and I headaches. I came into this one with ear plugs on hand if necessary and almost used them lol. Anytime I see Nolan’s name on it I come prepared now
My thoughts: - The film had no emotional impact on me. It didn't give an answer as to why I should care about Robert Oppenheimer. - The film made me wonder what it is about the Oppenheimer story that made Chris Nolan want to do it. - My observation is that it's not a film for Gen Z's - not enough ear/eye candy, not enough action, and it's a character they won't necessarily care about. - Contrary to many opinions about the soundtrack, I found it too distracting. It takes more of a central role than what it normally should in any film which left me thinking that, if not for the soundtrack, the film would be a bore. Which then made me think that, was the soundtrack deliberately employed the way it was because the film is actually a bore. - The film largely relies on Chris Nolan's reputation. - Cillian is great for sure. - I didn't feel the 3 hours which is a positive.
So weird to see Joe reviewing a Christoper Nolan film. I think he's only ever reviewed one of his films before Oppenheimer. Funny how he was surprised that Nolan wrote and directed it tho. IIRC correctly Nolan has written and directed pretty much all of his films, sometimes with the help of his brother and wife.
As far as weekend sales, anecdotally I would say that this movie is likely to do phenomenally well, simply by the fact that every theater I tried to buy tickets for, in every show slot on Friday was absolutely PACKED days in advance, with only a few spots open here and there, usually in the front row. I checked every theater in my city. I got lucky with one of them that had a few decent seats left in the third row haha.
This movie was amazing imo. My biggest complaint though, with how important the message was of this movie and the perspective of Oppenheimer… when they were looking at the photos of the devastation the bomb created, they should have shown the photos. The real photos from history. It would have cemented this film and grounded the message. But they shied away from it. Maybe to avoid backlash, but I felt it would have been important for people to see.
They had nudity and sex scenes, but a movie about the a-bomb didn't the show the effects of it on humans? They could of described it at least. Missed opportunity.
They shouldn't have shown the photo's. This was about Oppenheimers reactions to the photo's, not about the photo's itself. They would have been distractring, taking our attention away from Oppenheimer's reaction.
I was highly expecting to have them show the pictures. Yet i ended up happy they didn't. Nolan knows we mostly seen them or could just Google them. So he decided to show us Oppenheimer not wanting to see, which was just as powerful
one of the few I've watched before the review, was fairly familiar with the Manhattan Project so I was surprised how much it got right. I only have a few complaints: 1. The sound scape really tries to carry the movie, it's great in a proper theatre with all the bass response really jolting your senses but after the first time I could see it getting really annoying especially watching it on built in TV speakers. 2. Some historical events weren't explained quite that well, for instance Pile-1s importance in Chicago got all of 15 seconds and didn't really explain why Oppenheimer was determined to break his security clearance to see the breakthrough. 3. This is more of a 2.5 but the film briefly showed US Secretary of War Henry Stimson had a sheet of paper in front of him when he excluded Kyoto from being nuked but they didn't show the paper at all, a paper that showed the rankings of other cities like #6 Hiroshima or #18 Nagasaki. 4. You can probably guess where this is going, it is mentioned briefly in a communist rally that the bomb WASN'T NECCESARY TO WIN THE WAR and that this fact is a great American lie.
USAF 2W2 here, so there are a lot of details and writings we went over from tech school about these particular events. As for number 4, yeah, that was something that continues to be talked about today, mainly by those unaware of the nuances or the basis of action at the time. As it was written, the frog-pot/shock-trauma dilemma comes into play. It was described that a naval encroachment and subsequent landing and invasion would cost upwards of 6-11 million lives, both Allied and Japanese over the course of 8-15 months. Due to being a slow encroachment and the deaths steadily over that span, you wouldn't have those in leadership or the Emperor willing to concede a loss. This was likened to a frog not reacting when in a pot of water that's slowly brought to boil. The shock-trauma is the nukes themselves and that while the loss of life would be much lower, it would have a shocking effect and a response. Now, I haven't seen the movie yet as I have 70mm tickets here in DC for next Sunday (bookings are packed two weeks in advance), and unsure if they covered this in the movie, but Fat Man was originally for Germany. Little boy was for Japan. The shift in where they would be used happened something like 12-15 times not counting the almost 30 locations they were planning in Japan when narrowing down the list to one, and then two once Hitler committed suicide. The reason for Nagasaki was actually for three reasons... 1) Japan didn't surrender after Hiroshima 2) We wanted them to think that we had more than one and in this case, more than two and could in fact continue the bombing until they did surrender 3) To send a message to the Soviets of which we found were a greater mortal threat than the Nazis, in particular due to similar annexation of countries but higher death count and worse, being that it was of their own people. Moving through into Fusion from Fission as we did when going from the Plutonium munition to thermonuclear with the Hydrogen bomb being one of the initial variants, was required because like in the 40s, this was a race of ideologies. And as per the historical leaks in the early 90s when the USSR fell, they had intended a first strike use before the US could complete theirs. Thankfully we had ours as a motion of deterrence.
@@janus3555 Thanks for your lengthy comment! I'm going to respond in the same format you did. 1. Japan began internally debating surrender on July 7, Emperor Hirohito forced his cabinet to send a peace delegation to Moscow on July 22nd after a lack of consensus. July 27th the "Potsdam message" was heard loud and clear and was awaiting a response from its Moscow envoy with now a majority advocating for surrender regardless of terms. Hiroshima was dropped on Aug 6th, it was only diplomatic lag why the war continued. An unequivocal waste of life. 2. I absolutely buy this line of reasoning, no criticisms here. 3. Potsdam really was designed to flex on the Soviets 100%, it's too bad the nuclear monopoly only lasted until 1949 thanks to traitors like Klaus Fuchs (who is also mentioned in the film)
I watched it today and it was good, but not great. I felt the movie was hurt a bit by that it kept jumping between time and that the music was just unnecessarily loud at times. For interstellar this worked as there was a lot of urgency and action, but this movie is very stationary. This time-jumping made the movie feel overly-hectic and it would have been better when time had been taken to really lay down scenes and not make everything feel like a big montage. There was no real character development. Just like in Tenet people just have a certain character and you do not really learn to care for them apart from Oppenheimer. I also remember Oppenheimer in real life saying that people acted differently at the testing of the atomb bomb. That some laughed and some cried. Here everyone is just cheering. I think compared to interstellar this movie isn't that great as there is not much visual spectacle nor great chemistry between characters.
The scene with him and Truman was cool to see put to film. Oppenheimer thought he would make a connection with Truman by sharing his guilt in what he had done. He didn’t think about the person who authorized the actual use of the bomb. So when he tells Truman his guilt it comes off as an insult. Truman went through his own struggle with whether he should use it and the full weight and responsibility of it’s use fell onto him. Oppenheimer built the gun and loaded it, Truman pulled the trigger.
“Get that cry baby out of here” had me laughing. A cold sentiment from one of our twerpier looking presidents.
If he didn't make the bomb Truman wouldn't have been able to use it 🙄🙄🙄
@@DamnitgarySo do you usually personally observe the creator of the gun taking primary blame for murders, mass-shootings, or things of that nature? If you do, fine- that’s your truth. I typically see blame go to the one who pulled the trigger, or the government that allowed guns to become so problematic.
Oppenheimer is not free of responsibility, but to act like he’s the biggest bad for doing the thing he was instructed to seems off. All parties should be accountable, especially those who commissioned the device’s creation and those who ordered its use. But of course, your own opinions are valid homie.
@@Donovampire Yup, especially considering the inevitability of the A-Bomb being built, the use of it was however not inevitable and could have simply been avoided.
@@TP_GillzThe bomb saved millions of lives in a war of attrition.
They actually shot part of the movie in Los Alamos and used actual scientists from the lab as a lot of the extras. I work at the lab and had the opportunity to shoot for about a week. It was an awesome experience.
That’s very cool! What sort of scientific field is it that you work in?
Also, as a scientist, that is now working in Los Alamos, I’d feel a bit remiss if I didn’t at least ask you; How do you feel about towards Oppenheimer as an individual and how the film handled it, particularly with the haunting ending?
You work on any alien spacecraft up there?
I hope you guys are working on a new McDonald's ice cream machine that doesn't break.
And I think they filmed in his actual house in Los Alamos, and they literally built the small town
So glad real cinema on a major budget level still exists
Thank Nolan for fighting with WB bc they released all their movies on HBO D1
Like Tom Cruise did with Paramount to keep the movie off of P+ for as long as possible
Well done
only seen top gun yet but i loved it
Tho it was much later when it passed 1BN
The movie was boring af and the nuke was underwhelming, but the build up to the trinity test was great
You could just enjoy a movie instead of being a nitpicky little dweeb.
To the brainlets saying how boring it was I'm guessing there wasn't enough explosions to hold your limited attention span. Perhaps you should have gone to watch Barbie with your boyfriends instead :)
I agreed. We still get big cinema that aren't Marvel movies.
When Alex has barely any complaints about a movie, you know it’s a good one
agree to the fullest. When he likes something just a little bit I know that there a big shot I will have a decent time watching it
I think Angry Joe over rates every movie by a full point so I usually end up agreeing with Alex or Other (Nice) Joe more.
Dude always has the most nitpicky of nitpicks 😂
He is the true star of this show.
it is bad though.
The last scene of the movie gave me chills. I was in awe of the terror humanity had unleashed.
Exactly, every country had their role, Germany half-inciting us with equal blame to fire it 3 months after they surrendered, Japan for running out of civilians to kill efficiently and "that virtually every top World War II U.S. military leader, including President (previously General) Eisenhower, went public after the war with statements suggesting that the use of the atomic bomb was unnecessary". Let's not even bother identifying the actor with the most "man's inhumanity to man" in WW2 in this particular situation, even Whoopee is impressed.
Lol
I really liked that the chain reaction they thought could be a possibility didn’t happen yet it did happen in a longer form type of way
@@jamiehall-hanlon3104 wow it's almost like that was the point of the last scene. You and @FabTBC need to stop trying to sound intellectual, you sound silly.
@@Trevorischillin imagine getting triggered over youtube comments lol.
I wasn't expecting the Barbie dolls again
Send nukes
I wasn’t expecting good audio quality from their headsets either
Yeah… kinda gay innit?
I wasn’t expecting Joe to let ‘em talk either
I thought I clicked on the wrong video. Confusing.
Movie was awesome, everyone gave an A class acting job, everything was on point, sound, music, cinematography. I was surprised to see Gary Oldman, caught me off guard in a good way.
The cast in this movie is insane! Looks like everyone wants to take a role in a Nolan movie. 😆
And Casey Affleck and Dane Dehann
What role can that man not play?
Wait, Gary Oldman was in the film? I didn't even notice 😮
@@Juan_shot he played President Truman
I just got out of the theater of watching it & the only way I could describe it is terrifyingly beautiful
yea ill take that as garbage but youre just being a stan... reminds me of my friend who said the recent batman movie was "beautiful" lmfao
Lmao what movie were you watching
You'd think the bomb part would be awesome. After all, thanks to Michael Bay, we're used to explosions of all sizes on screen.
But this is TERRIFYING. Straight down to the sound leading up to it. You just feel utter dread. Which is smart cinematography and writing.
@@danielruiz3853you don’t have friends come on
@@TheRibottoStudiosOnly someone who has an understanding of the Manhatten Project will get what Nolan was trying to capture in this movie. I agree it was terrifyingly beautiful.
This is an Oscar caliber film. Excellent, casting, dialogue, and acting. There were many scenes that left me in awe. What we have to remember is the scientists involved in the Manhattan Project developed a weapon that forever changed warfare. Oppenheimer and his team opened the door to the destruction of world, which is a huge moral dilemma for all involved in the project. Best movie I have seen a long time. Oppenheimer’s girlfriend suffered from depression and committed suicide in real life.
And then sells you the prospect of these horrors as your local gas station going up in flames instead of swallowing ones pride and just use CGI composite shots.
@@anatolystepanovichdyatlov1747 hey, Nolan repaid his debts with full frontal nudity scenes for his movie
don't be a chooser
@@ivanidlehand9651 "My dick... did what?"
ITS NOT
@@DavesThePartyGuy01 ? didn't live up to your oscar made movies? Or your critical brain? looool
My favorite part of the film was the test blast as it became utter silence and it was beautiful because then out of nowhere the blast sound reigns in and the whole theater jumps lol so wonderfully done.
I love that whole scene!!!! Especially when they were lying face down the opposite way and it became day for a second or two. The shock wave literally gave me a heart attack. Even the suspense with the count down had me on the edge of my seat. This movie is a modern day masterpiece 🤌
Was expecting more. The blast was small
This movie found creative ways to show theme by looping plot points and ideas back around to different parts of the movie, by using visual cues and replaying different sounds. The color and the black and white scenes was really interesting and reminded me of his other movies. This truly feels like a culmination of Nolan's work and techniques into one movie.
I'd feel like retiring now if I was Nolan.
@@clintpatty fax like what could top this?
@@clintpattyhonestly if this was announced as his last movie to direct, this would be a fantastic send off
@@clintpattyit was literally his crowning jewel, he should be on a sofa sipping on hot chocolate waiting for his oscars
yawnfest of a movie. im not jumping on the nolan kissmyass bandwagon.
Hopefully it does better because we need more movies like this
3 hour long snoozefests? No thanks.
@@functionatthejunction yeah, no place for real historical events in film! History must be forgotten
@@functionatthejunctionIt was a great watch
@@functionatthejunctionI digress, I enjoyed the film from start to finish to each their own I guess! I liked it and he who doesn’t understand the history will be doomed to repeat it!
@@py16667you understand!
Really glad you guys went to see this. I read American Prometheus when it came out to prepare for a history class debate, and I still think about that book almost 20 years later.
The final visualization is beyond haunting. What a great movie.
The best part of Oppenheimer is when Heisenberg stared at Albert Einstein and growled “Say my name!”
😂😂😂😂
Which Heisenberg? The drugdealer or the nuclear scientist?
This movie should dominate the Oscars. Nothing even close to its caliber has been released this year
Killers of the flower moon might have a chance but other then that this movie is going to kick everyone else’s ass
i agree but we still have killers of the flower moon and napolean to come.
_Napoleon_ and _Killers of the Flower Moon_ aren't going to let _Oppenheimer_ have a clean sweep.
Dune Part 2, Napoleon....
@@Vsn24 I’ve been seeing that dune part 2 may be pushed to next year because of the strikes
Cilian deserves an Oscar nomination
So does RDJ
@population-_-420 it won't , people rather watch brainless shit ... sad but true
@population-_-420 it will not.
@population-_-420who cares? It’ll be a success and Barbie has a good cast and director so enough with the elementary school bullshit
@population-_-420A. “They act like two legends cannot coexist.”
B. Barbie is a movie about one of the most popular toy brands of all time. Oppenheimer is a 3 hour long rated R biopic about a man falling apart because of what he did.
I started to lose some stamina at a certain point in the final act, but then the final 30 minutes hit us with so many satisfying moments that I didn't expect from a historical film and the very last scene just brought it all together like a star going supernova
Bro, yess. That ending was very cold and terrifying. When I saw it, people clapped and put their heads down as if they were very shocked on what it signified.
I like to think the last bit of the movie was intentional as it was supposed to help you empathize with Oppenheimer’s frustrations at having his life’s work taken away from him
I'm a plasma fusion physicist, this was such an experience for me to see on release. I was grinning the whole time. "You would say that to a humble physicist?" " i'll let you know when I meet such a Physicist" rofl
this movie was top notch I love Biopics and even more so about this man. I never felt bored or luud to sleep, I was awake and intrigued in the entire 3+ hours. well done.
This movie was phenomenal. The acting, the writing, the ost and cinematography. So many threads in this movie.
Like scorpions, they both brought each other down.
I did not feel the length, even though I drank a bunch of water before hand lol. My only ciritisim, is the audio mixing is off. Not to the extent as tenet, but it was off for a part of a scene.
I plan on seeing it again. I pretty much spent all day at work thinking about this movie and talking to anyone who would listen.
Nolan says he intentionally messes up the audio so maybe thats why. I haven't seen it so I don't know if thats applicable to what you saw but apparently thats a thing he does if he believes you wouldn't hear whats going on clearly in a scene if you were there.
@@In-The-Zonexactly! Was about to explain it myself but you said it perfectly. In Tenet; in the middle of a gun fight or a battle in a war with explosions going off left and right, you would have trouble hearing what the person that’s even standing directly next to you is saying.
It’s as if your tagging along on the journey of these characters as if you were actually there experiencing it firsthand as some kind of an invisible voyeuristic onlooker. Or maybe some sort of news journalist/videographer there to document the events taking place as historical archival footage.
Just imagine this: The camera is you.
I agree. This is Nolan's most "pure film". As in if this should be in Academy Awards/Oscar buzz. Plus, the performances of Cillian Murphy and RDJ. Many cameos from other good actors. Its like who isnt in this film?! But not a movie for everyone. I can see many saying its "boring". But not if youre a thinker and appreciate directorial-style. Best "film" by Chris Nolan.
Inception and The Dark Knight remain my personal favorites. But Oppenheimer is Nolan's "pure-cut diamond".
📽🎬💎
Which scene did the audio mixing seem off?
Weird I could have sworn i clicked on a Barbie movie review and this comment caught my attention. I was like "What all went down in that freaking Barbie movie!?" 😅
Dude! Christopher Nolan is a monster!!! when it comes to directing, even his worst movies are solid as hell.
@@dominiclane8538 Wait what?
Accept for tenant.
@@startrekmaniac1701 Blasphemy
@@morganyu812 is that good enough for you
@@startrekmaniac1701Admittedly, a whole film revolving around the plot of a man paying his rent was pretty boring.
My great uncle worked on the Project, and Oppenheimer actually came to his house for dinner on occasion after the war. He died a long while ago, but I wish he could have been alive to see this film! Solid review.
That’s cool. What was his name? And what role did he play in the project?
@@mementomori8991 His name was Elmer Bokesch. He wasn't a major player, but he rubbed shoulders with them. He worked on the Dayton Project in Ohio, where they developed the reaction trigger mechanism for the nukes. He died back in 1971 due to "cancer".
Hell, if he is alive, I would love it for your great uncle to contribute to the movie with his insight and experience.
The line that keeps getting to me is when he ask Albert “ you remember when we said there is a high chance we will cause a chain reaction in the atmosphere” he says something like “ yeah I remember” Oppenheimer responded with “ I think we did” the. It cuts to the last shot and you can read everything on his face and that last scene and shot terrified me I woke up thinking about it.
I think it was a chain reaction that destroys mankind. It takes balls the size of Jupiter to tell Einstein to his face that you’ve used his foundations to create a weapon that WILL likely at some point end humanity itself. Bruhhh
It's an unexpected and excellent end scene
@@KidKingdomHearts yeah that was it thank you and yeah that whole last scene actually terrified me I’m still thinking about it
14:34 the actor’s name is Benny Safdie and he’s actually a really great director too. He made two films for A24; “Good Time” (which is credited as being the movie that landed Robert Pattinson The Batman) and “Uncut Gems”. Both are absolutely amazing films that I recommend every time I get the chance.
Anyone else find it funny that Christopher Nolan directs a film about Oppenheimer the father of the atomic bomb while his younger brother Jonathan Nolan is directing a Fallout show which in many ways can be seen as an alternate future where the American people embraced Nuclear power and the Atom Bomb rather than fear it. Oppenheimer gave birth to this possible future (Along with Enrico Fermi and his team who who created the first self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction) and I just find that amazing that the two brothers worked on two very different projects but both have massive connections by history. Oppenheimer in many ways is a prequal to Fallout.
Wait fallout as in the game series?
They probably discussed this behind close doors of the movies together. He was gonna release Oppenheimer first to pose a bigger question.
@@TheCourier0613 Yep. It was revealed a few years back that Jonathan Nolan would be directing a Fallout TV show for Amazon with Todd Howard as Producer I believe. There was leaked pictures of them shooting the show and the art direction looked pulled from the games. No trailer yet but Jonathan Nolan did have a fun little video of him talking about Fallout but that's really it. Jonathan Nolan directed Westworld and was a writter on many of Nolans films like The Dark Knight so I have faith the series will be good. Filled with dark Satire and hopefully very bloody.
@@TheCourier0613 Look up "Beyond The Game | Fallout | Prime Video" I think that's the one everyone is referring too.
16 times the detail
Looks like Oppenheimer was the bomb rather then just being a bomb
BOOM!!!!!
Oppenheimer was a masterpiece
But I thought Ben Affleck was the bomb.
@@jwnj9716 yeah in Phantoms yo!
@population-_-420 Sad
Knowing the espionage angle beforehand really helped contextualize the events shown in Oppenheimer. Also knowing what the Spanish Civil War entailed helped too. Great flick.
That might’ve been what was missing for me. I came in expecting it to be solely on the Manhattan Project, so a lot of the stuff outside it had me lost. I still don’t understand Straus hand in the whole thing. He seemed so much a side character but also a major character. I suppose I’ll need a rewatch and maybe read some to understand better.
@@russellpuff1996 The Strauss connection was new to me, but I was able to figure out his duel role.
@@russellpuff1996 he was a main character possing as a side character.
Thats not an Ad, thats just what Alex and OJ do whilst waiting for the next review
This film had scenes that scared me more then a horror film ever could, perfect film no arguments
I mean yeah especially the ending part that was haunting to me imo just imagining if that what actually would happen to earth 🌎
@@outright4697they could show it way better... Terminator 3 nukes style
Cillian Murphy is quickly becoming one of my favorite actors of all time. Cant wait to see this one!
Of all time? That’s a stretch. Relax and take a breath and think about what you are saying
@@GeorgeZimmermen I missed the part where i had to factor your opinion into my own.
@@GeorgeZimmermen it's his opinion
Man, agreed. Even in his side character roles I enjoy watching his roles.
Back in the day with 28 Days and Sunshine he was already engaging and then into the likes of Inception and finally here where I'd put money on this being his Oscar role.
@@catatonic165OoooOhhh shit!!
Glad to see Angry Joe finally review a Nolan movie once again! We haven't had one in a while since _Inception_ for some reason....
Dark Knight Rises? 2012?
Dunkirk? 2017?
@@Lordoftheringwraiths AJ never did a review on The Dark Knight Rises. The Batman, yes.
@@maxworldcanada No Angry review exists for Dunkirk.
Tenet?
Was super cool to see so many actors showing up for 2-3 scenes. Was definitely surprised to see Josh Peck from Drake and Josh.
@@welcome2pominville29hector?????
Dude, right? Casey Affleck and Scott Grimes, as well. It's a testament to Nolan that he can bring in so many actors to do such small roles; some of these small roles were truly excellent for their time on screen, too.
Malek has very little in this and yet his highlight during the film reminds us why he's an Oscar winner.
Casey Affleck killed it
Casey Affleck was unhinged it was awesome
I love that about Nolan. He's like, what do I need auditions for? Tons of actors out there needing work, and their audition tapes are already on TV. Great guy.
Oppenheimer has a 100 mill. budget. That's low-ish for a Hollywood movie. So it doesn't have to appeal to a massive audience. But hopefully a lot of people go see it. It's a hugely important part of history as well as a huge philosophical question.
PS: Cilian is pronounced Kilian
My showing yesterday at 1 pm on a Friday was literally sold out, and it's already been out for a week
@@cml007 It's doing pretty good
Watched it on IMAX dont waste your money it needs SUBTITLES
It was loud in my theater as well, but not enough to cause an issue with the dialog. So it seems like it may be a question of how well balanced the speaker system is in a given theater.
Agreed. I thought the sound was perfect
Thank you for actually reviewing movies and not just revealing the plot, so many reviews just tell you what happens and that’s not a review
You are fortunate that you don't read any books. You would have been disappointed by the spoilers.
Lol what? Spoilers, they bombed Japan.
@@mrmijunte10 Honestly haven't read a book since high school, that was 15+ years ago
@@radioactivetrees9626 I know the outcome lol but i dont want play by play of what happens in the movie like some reviewers do
@@radioactivetrees9626There are still plenty of spoilers you could say about this movie that goes into Oppenheimer's personal life
I watched this high and IMAX. I was absolutely stunned. I was leaning in and everything lol. I don’t blame the guy next to me falling asleep post the nuke test because the investigation was basically all the the last part. But was a great movie.
Being a History Nerd, I loved this film. It was pure oldschool Acting, that made you feel in the room. A+ Acting. The detail of emotions. Robert Downey Jr. was Out Of This World. Everyone bought their A+ Skiils. Major Thinking Movie! 3 hrs didn't bother me. I love detailed Movies. Bio Pics! That last hour was intensed with the Political Backroom Committees.
Was really disappointed with this film. As a biopic I don’t feel I have any more understanding of Oppenheimer. All I got out of it is that Oppenheimer is more of a theory man, had ties with communists but wasn’t overtly one, and had two wives. Yeah he seemed a bit remorseful for creating the bomb, but I didn’t see how those regrets really effected his life. I felt the dialogue was really hard to hear at times ( like most Nolan films) the editing and pacing was very choppy, and I think the vendetta Strauss had against Oppenheimer was VERY poorly explained. Like ok Oppenheimer might lose his security clearance but WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? What is he losing out on with that, and why is it so important that it’s the climax of the film and not the trinity tests or the bombing of Japan.
The actual nuke itself was also pretty underwhelming.
Would’ve been a much better film if it focused more on the logistics and struggles of figuring out the atom bomb, the race between the us and Germany( yes I know it comes up but it should’ve been THE central motivating force) the bombing of Japan ( actually show the horror of what happened instead of a very brief illusion) and then end it with how the affected Oppenheimer and go more into depth on the process of his opinions changing or him being more vocal on his opposition to the bombs. Strauss was a waste of time at least how he was used as well as the focus on Oppenheimer’s first wife which felt entirely pointless.
Not to mention the casting was INSANELY distracting. I kept getting taken out of the film because every 30 seconds I was noticing a bigger named actor playing VERY minor roles.
So yeah I think I’m in the minority but I’m really confused on all the love this is getting. This and Tenant have both been pretty big misses as someone who’s loved basically all of Nolan’s other films
are you me? i had the exact same thoughts.
i want to add that the abstract shots of the actual science that's happening were placed extremely weird. there was no context given to what we were seeing.
in my opinion they should've put those during the making of the bomb (which we also barely got to see.)
i didn't hate it but it isn't a masterpiece that people say it is. the acting was the best part of the movie. i give it a 7 out of 10.
The film's subject was in the title. I heard a radio play about Oppenheimer, based on the same book, and you do not need the bomb itself to tell his story. Just saying.
@@BigHenFor they barely told us anything about his story like I said at the beginning of my comment. It somehow managed to not inform us much on who Oppenheimer was as a person or go deeply into the building of the bomb.
Also nobody cares about anything he did besides building the bomb. That’d be like making a movie about John Lennon and not centering the plot around his music career.
Any time I think of them testing the bombs, I imagine something going wrong and the explosion being way more powerful than was calculated. Right at the moment as the fireball reaches the scientists one of them thinks to themselves "Damn, I forgot to carry the one".
That did kind of happen with the Castle Bravo test of the H-bomb. It was expected to be about 6 megatons, but when it was set off it was 15 megatons
Yep, and the massive fallout cloud affected thousands, including the marshal islands and the unfortunate Japanese fishing boat.
Nolan has been hit or miss for me in his films. He will give you some 10/10 moments then have weird choices where it feels bloated and useless scenes. His best stuff is his earlier stuff imo.
Really since interstellar his movies have been bad
Earlier films memento and insomnia is great
@@JohnSmith-es3dn Interstellar has some 10/10 moments but also like 30m of dead time that could’ve been cut and some odd story choices, but I live for the 10/10 moments. A shame because it could’ve been such a tighter film but it’s still great.
@@TheProphegy yeah it's a good film not a masterpiece
I agree. Ever since Dark Knight Rises he is only making bad stuff, so we're talking about 10+ years of weak films. The plot of Interstellar is nonsensical, there's some really cool scenes here and there, but goddamn, nothing makes sense, the end is awful, etc Oppenheimer was like a "return to form", this movie is solid, still struggles with bloat and bad sound design tho. Also, I did not liked how Nolan "shielded" Oppenheimer, he never showed footage from the war, the horrific damage the bombs caused in Japan, etc.. nope, it was all off-screen, he showed Oppenheimer feeling "guilty", he suffering from panic attacks, etc.. even Einstein was toned down (he was completely against the bomb for good reason). Oppenheimer is not a "victim", hell no, the guy committed genocide (he analyzed and then chose the targets by the way, the movie barely addressed this). He is not a war hero, not a martyr, etc.. none of that
As as former SSBN submariner, I enjoyed this movie. I can see why it would bore most people.
Another boomer here. I concur.
I don't mind if a film is boring. What I mind are pacing and story issues.
I'm a child of boomers but not one myself, and I love TONS of 'boring' films. Have you ever seen *Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy?* That's a great spy film and about as 'boring' as a film could be.
I had extremely high expectations for this film that I felt it did not live up to. I was expecting an epic biographical film like Stone's *JFK* or Lee's *Malcolm X.* Both of which not only should fit into a similar time frame for viewers, but could be considered boring. I love those films.
This is a great film. It's just not a great Nolan film, and I think it's his worst movie. Having said that, Nolan's worst film is still better than 98% of films ever, so it's still REALLY good.
Just not as good as I was hoping it would be...I was expecting to leave that theater Thursday night saying I just saw the year's best picture.
I didn't feel that way when I actually left the theater. I think this film needed to be 20 minutes shorter and, EITHER, focus completely on the work done at (and leading up to) Los Alamos, OR, be a film about McCarthyism and it's impacts on Oppenheimer, Strauss, and society at large (and as a result our nuclear policy). Instead the film put one foot in both and didn't fully commit.
Just my opinion. I am very happy others saw it and I am VERY HAPPY that the IMAX theater I saw it in (overseas in Thailand, which is how I saw it a day early) was packed, because that means we'll get more films from directors like Nolan, Villeneuve, etc. But I felt let down by this film.
@@mcnamaraky By "Boomer," I believe @CD21785 is referring to the nickname for ballistic missile submarines, as opposed to the "baby boomer" age group.
@@technoCHOPS1134 I stand completely corrected then as I never heard that. Learned something new!
Regardless though, my views on the film are the same. My point was I love many "boring" movies, and this movie being considered "boring" was not the reason I enjoyed it less than others. That was my main point in talking about being a "boomer."
But thank you for teaching me that. I have never heard that term before for that position so I learned something new just now. Ty.
@@mcnamaraky Ahh too bad for you mate.
I’ve always had this morbid fascination with the Manhattan project and the creation of the atomic bombs. I’m so glad this movie was done so well. If Cillian Murphy doesn’t win an award for his performance I’m going to be salty.
Complicated , specially because of the new set of rules the academy. Probably the award will go to someone from minorities , etc .
Which makes no sense, im a POC and Cilian’s acting was some of the best ive seen
Also hes irish background so he is diverse
3 hours and I was completely enraptured the entire movie. The Trinity Test was one of the most haunting theater experiences I've ever had. Cillian Murphy has always been an underrated actor, and he's finally been given a lead role and he absolutely shined. Easily the best performance of the year. I think this is easily Nolan's best film
Lies.
@@Mike-jt9cl what the fuck do u mean?
That ending though. Very bone chilling.
@@Mike-jt9clGreetings Nolan hater
Not easily though
This is literally a movie that defines that "This is cinema" meme.
All I was missing was s glass of wine, cause fucking hell. This was epic.
Epic scenes of dialogue right? Bc the movie had no action
@@MrBepis-qx5yeThe movie had no action but it had WAVES of tension and suspense.
@@MrBepis-qx5yeYes. Sorry the movie had no pewpewpew
I’m always stunned when I see people still say “epic” don’t you feel like a super huge queef saying that?
@@ihateallthethings2683 If you feel it that way, maybe you are.
Missed opportunity that they didn’t cast Bryan Cranston as Heisenburg
This movie left me speechless. In a good way.
Christopher Nolan and his cast REALLY want an Oscar this year.
oh yeah two goofs were:
- oppenheimer (cillian's) ear lobes pierced
- flag had 50 stars in post-bombing speech scene (in reality at the time it had 48)
"Visual flourishes" I love when Joe tries to sound like an actual movie reviewer.
The sexuality in the film was a strange creative direction, especially the “destroyer of worlds” quote in bed.
Honestly think the Kitty vision of Jean riding Oppie wasn’t needed. She was also underwritten a bit, wish we could have had more scenes with her.
Just watched it.
It’s a great movie. I’m at a 8 out of 10.
Well written.
Take notes Disney
I recommend this movie
Disney can't put boobies in their movies. They won't be taking any notes, unless it's for Avengers 17.
I loved the movie, it’s a whole experience everyone should watch! Loved the direction, the visuals and the actors involved, really great film!
9:00 turns out it made nothing short of a billion, an absolute triumph
Alex's confusion about himself giving it a 10 says something for sure
makes you wonder, doesn't it? For the movie to be given 10/10, it would have to be amazing, not 'there's nothing really wrong with it' lol
Paid review - but alas, these boys have to eat, too - c'est la vie
@@realitycheck1086 Chris out there paying random youtubers money to give out high grades! He can't keep getting away with it!! 😂😂😂
😂Dude Alex love the Barbie movie, hes a undercover shill and tried to be different but he's just like the other two, this show is a joke, it's all scripted.
@@practiceyourart lol - no
Studios, yes - are you new to this?
@@realitycheck1086 if they were being paid then they wouldn't have said it like that would they
As an Irishman the mispronunciation of cillian is absolutely killing my ears, still love you guys
Killian
This is the type of movie that will be shown in film class to study.
Just got back. Stunning film as expected from Nolan. 10/10 every day of the week
Where's that 10/10? That would mean perfection, nothing could have been better, no film is better than this...this is super over the top. 😅Comon dude
@@RichyRich2607 Dosent mean perfection mate. But for this genre of film you’ll do well to see something better. Acting is top class, class Nolan. Brilliant film
@@RichyRich2607looks like someone is desperate to play semantics over an opinion.
5/10 for me personally
most forgettable and dull 3hrs of my life. nolan is super overrated and way too pretentious. god its so cringe how pretentious he is.
Gonna be honest. I don’t have much interest in going to a theater anymore unless it’s a Christopher Nolan movie. Everything this guy puts out is just jaw dropping.
I wish they would have spent more time on the building the bomb
Give some impetus to build by actually showing some of the war
Then give more in-depth background on the genius minds brought together under oppenheimer
Then walk us through the breakthroughs and engineering
I got out of my local movie theater a few hours ago to see it, great movie, frop start to finish, didn't get bored for a second...
It was boring
I got bored too
So boring
The film is fantastic but Nolan STILL has issues with his audio mixing issues. How music always drowns out a good portion of dialogue and this movie, in parts; was even worse than Tenet. When there is dialogue of high minded theoretical physics happening and the music is blaring in the background, it makes it irritating. I don’t know why Nolan never improves on this aspect.
Tenet was unwatchable due to that shit
You're sure it's not a movie theater issue rather than the actual sound mixing?
Didn't have that kind of problem at mine, granted it was in French but if anything you'd think the French dub could only be worse, I don't think it can beat the original.
I personally didn’t have any issues hearing and understanding the dialogue
@@nyrva2876 the dark knight rises also has it a bit. But mainly tenet and from reviews Oppenheimer. Chris stuckmann said he missed about 25 percent of the dialogue due to the sound mixing. Thats not good. Something to watch at home with subtitles on
Man I had major issues hearing the dialogue it didn't sound clean or clear in this film it's a Let down for me.
This movie was incredible. An epic tragedy with emphasis on the EPIC
Saw the film a few hours ago in imax in the UK,
It was absolutely full you couldn't get any more people in to see this film,
The last Nolan film like that was interstellar,
Where every actor is giving it their all, No phoned in performances here,
No whooping clapping or anything like that,
Just people experiencing a biopic with a serious subject matter,
The bit where all the scientists are celebrating in an Oppenheimer is giving the speech and he has visions when they all banging their feet on the floor,
Reminds me when the allies made all radiation effects of the bombs dropped classified and didn't release the awful horrible footage of the japanese innocent civilians until the 1970s,
I thought it was boring as fuck. the movie lost me towards the beginning. I had no idea what was going on for a big portion of the movie.
I watched this yesterday... I was worried about the 3 hour timing, but I honestly didn't feel like it was 3 hours, I was so engaged into the story that it honestly flew by.
I saw this in the theaters with my dad and it did NOT disappoint! It was so good!
I would advise to see both just to help keep the theatrical experience alive for movies that arent superhero movies
The best thing about the effects: Absolutely no CGI. EVERYTHING is practical.
*Everything*
Good movie. Pacing was a bit much. I feel like not a single scene was over a minute long. It just kept moving and felt like more of a montage of key moments - missing out on the gravity and emotion of certain big moments.
To compare, this entire film is filmed like the montage in Inception when they are preparing their big plan before the plane flight. That’s the quickness of the pacing in Oppenheimer.
Good movie, but not his best.
Give Josh Peck the Oscar
The way he held his hand over the red button was truly Oscar worthy.
@@damienlee1165he was truly terrified
I had no idea that was Josh Peck holy shit
That whole scene with the Trinity test was so well directed and the trembling shakey hand over the button was perfect.
Everyone did such an excellent job in this movie. Emily Blunt was very powerful in her scenes. I didn’t feel the 3 hours, either.
This and ATSV were my most anticipated movies, nice to see this get great reviews
Goddamn incredible. I didn't feel the time at all! I'm a geek for history and all that space shit. The sound design, visuals & Cillian Murphy's performance
🔥
This movie was boring. No not because its not action filled, but because the story structure doesn't flow. The last 40 minutes of interrogation isnt worthy of a finale considering the natural climax of the movie ends with the scene where he visits President Trueman an hour before the end.
The movie was so amazing! Perhaps the best movie from Nolan I've seen. Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Jr were both fantastic. It is so great to have fascinating movies that makes you just think about it a lot afterwards.
Saw it in 15/70 imax on the biggest screen in the us (nyc) and holy shit. I’ve never been more in awe of seeing a film in large format. Just wow. If this doesnt sweep the Oscar’s it’ll be robbery
I watched it twice already. Im soo happy a movie like this exist. It gives me hope people will notice, and will help to keep REAL CINEMA alive!!
Interesting movie, but i definitely felt the length... ive never fallen asleep in a movie before and i could feel myself starting to doze off towards the end. Its really no wonder Nolan put lots of random unessicary exploding sounds and noises, thats to keep the audience awake and from falling asleep. If it wasn't for all the random bursts in volume, i could of easily has fallen asleep. Not a bad movie, but i doubt id watch it again.
Wonderful display of great filmmaking and Nolans magnum opus... This and Memento are my personal favorites of his work.
Memento was good, I agree. The rest of his work though - EXTREMELY overrated.
@@realitycheck1086 I blame his ridiculous fanbase especially during the batman trilogy and inception days like holy cow, They oversold him way to freaking much and they we're insufferable.
Absolutely sensational!! This is my new favorite Nolan movie. It's always been The Dark Knight, and Dunkirk came close, but Nolan did it. This is his best work in my opinion.
It's simpler to take an historical figure and make a biopic about them, but this movie transcends what a biopic can really be at the highest level. It felt unique, not like something I've seen but with a different historical person. Round of applause Christopher Nolan!!
This movie reminded me a lot of the Imitation Game, both about great individuals who served their countries in desperate times of need and get fucked over by the same governments afterwards.
Imitation felt like an overall more entertaining film
It's very good but it's a taxing watch, well worth it though, you can't switch off for a second, as it switches constantly between timelines and is dense full of dialog, it is definitely not a casual film, its less a film about war & bombs, but more about Oppenheimers life
Also as much as I love IMAX, I'm not sure it was actually necessary for this film, I remember watching Dunkirk in IMAX and came out absolutely blown away by the visuals and audio, less so with Oppenheimer as there isn't much action, that's not to say its not a good film, I just think if I'd watched it on the normal screen it would achieve the same result
8/10, if you have an interest in the subject then it's 100% worth the 3 hours of your time, if you're not really that bothered and just want to be entertained, you will be disappointed
Whilst I enjoyed the whole film, once the test is conducted, it feels like the film takes a dramatic step up for the final act.
The acting and dialogue in that last act was legit some of the most engaging I've heard, especially from Strauss (Downey) and Robb (Jason Clarke).
Also, though their parts are shorter, Hartnett, Malek, Dastmalcian and Casey Affleck absolutely killed their roles.
Pure cinema and wonderful character acting and whilst I'm not always a fan of Nolan's work, this one was a treat to watch and had me engaged start to finish.
The ending scene between Oppenheimer and Einstein (especially in context with what's been going on with Strauss) and the scene with the secretary and all the military leadership and scientists where they're deciding to do it and where to target... Both just emotionally wracking.
Amazing film.
Tbh this felt like a 3 episode mini series to me. Every hour almost to the T focused on something. The first hour was his early life and his career and becoming the director, then the creation and detonation, then the aftermath and fallout of the creation and personal vendettas.
This big budget masterpiece did so well!
Now we wait for Dune 2 😮
Yes! This, Dune 2 and Napoleon are the only films that I’m going to the theater for this year
I felt the same time in dark knight. When two face shows up I thought it was sequel baiting but the movie just kept going. I guess Christopher Nolan just likes doing that.
This show was incredibly well done, but sooo loud!
Tenet gave my friends and I headaches. I came into this one with ear plugs on hand if necessary and almost used them lol. Anytime I see Nolan’s name on it I come prepared now
The sounds are terrifying in this movie.
My thoughts:
- The film had no emotional impact on me. It didn't give an answer as to why I should care about Robert Oppenheimer.
- The film made me wonder what it is about the Oppenheimer story that made Chris Nolan want to do it.
- My observation is that it's not a film for Gen Z's - not enough ear/eye candy, not enough action, and it's a character they won't necessarily care about.
- Contrary to many opinions about the soundtrack, I found it too distracting. It takes more of a central role than what it normally should in any film which left me thinking that, if not for the soundtrack, the film would be a bore. Which then made me think that, was the soundtrack deliberately employed the way it was because the film is actually a bore.
- The film largely relies on Chris Nolan's reputation.
- Cillian is great for sure.
- I didn't feel the 3 hours which is a positive.
So weird to see Joe reviewing a Christoper Nolan film. I think he's only ever reviewed one of his films before Oppenheimer. Funny how he was surprised that Nolan wrote and directed it tho. IIRC correctly Nolan has written and directed pretty much all of his films, sometimes with the help of his brother and wife.
Joe had a 6 minute monologue I think thats a new record
The film was too long IMO. I had a hard time following what was going on, and quickly got lost
Glad you guys liked the film! It's pronounced "kill"ian isn't it?
Nolan wasn't lying, there were zero VFX artists in the credits which is actually insane
It was 99% talking, 1% explosion
As far as weekend sales, anecdotally I would say that this movie is likely to do phenomenally well, simply by the fact that every theater I tried to buy tickets for, in every show slot on Friday was absolutely PACKED days in advance, with only a few spots open here and there, usually in the front row. I checked every theater in my city. I got lucky with one of them that had a few decent seats left in the third row haha.
Definitely learned some history with this movie. It only took them around 50ish days to make it too!
History? Lmfao that's rich. Historic fiction
@@JohnSmith-es3dn watch out for the edgy guy in the yt comments
This movie was amazing imo. My biggest complaint though, with how important the message was of this movie and the perspective of Oppenheimer… when they were looking at the photos of the devastation the bomb created, they should have shown the photos. The real photos from history. It would have cemented this film and grounded the message. But they shied away from it. Maybe to avoid backlash, but I felt it would have been important for people to see.
They had nudity and sex scenes, but a movie about the a-bomb didn't the show the effects of it on humans? They could of described it at least.
Missed opportunity.
They shouldn't have shown the photo's. This was about Oppenheimers reactions to the photo's, not about the photo's itself. They would have been distractring, taking our attention away from Oppenheimer's reaction.
@@JJSmallsIt wasn't about the A bomb and humanity. It was about Oppenheimer.
I was highly expecting to have them show the pictures. Yet i ended up happy they didn't. Nolan knows we mostly seen them or could just Google them. So he decided to show us Oppenheimer not wanting to see, which was just as powerful
one of the few I've watched before the review, was fairly familiar with the Manhattan Project so I was surprised how much it got right. I only have a few complaints:
1. The sound scape really tries to carry the movie, it's great in a proper theatre with all the bass response really jolting your senses but after the first time I could see it getting really annoying especially watching it on built in TV speakers.
2. Some historical events weren't explained quite that well, for instance Pile-1s importance in Chicago got all of 15 seconds and didn't really explain why Oppenheimer was determined to break his security clearance to see the breakthrough.
3. This is more of a 2.5 but the film briefly showed US Secretary of War Henry Stimson had a sheet of paper in front of him when he excluded Kyoto from being nuked but they didn't show the paper at all, a paper that showed the rankings of other cities like #6 Hiroshima or #18 Nagasaki.
4. You can probably guess where this is going, it is mentioned briefly in a communist rally that the bomb WASN'T NECCESARY TO WIN THE WAR and that this fact is a great American lie.
USAF 2W2 here, so there are a lot of details and writings we went over from tech school about these particular events. As for number 4, yeah, that was something that continues to be talked about today, mainly by those unaware of the nuances or the basis of action at the time. As it was written, the frog-pot/shock-trauma dilemma comes into play.
It was described that a naval encroachment and subsequent landing and invasion would cost upwards of 6-11 million lives, both Allied and Japanese over the course of 8-15 months. Due to being a slow encroachment and the deaths steadily over that span, you wouldn't have those in leadership or the Emperor willing to concede a loss. This was likened to a frog not reacting when in a pot of water that's slowly brought to boil.
The shock-trauma is the nukes themselves and that while the loss of life would be much lower, it would have a shocking effect and a response.
Now, I haven't seen the movie yet as I have 70mm tickets here in DC for next Sunday (bookings are packed two weeks in advance), and unsure if they covered this in the movie, but Fat Man was originally for Germany. Little boy was for Japan. The shift in where they would be used happened something like 12-15 times not counting the almost 30 locations they were planning in Japan when narrowing down the list to one, and then two once Hitler committed suicide.
The reason for Nagasaki was actually for three reasons...
1) Japan didn't surrender after Hiroshima
2) We wanted them to think that we had more than one and in this case, more than two and could in fact continue the bombing until they did surrender
3) To send a message to the Soviets of which we found were a greater mortal threat than the Nazis, in particular due to similar annexation of countries but higher death count and worse, being that it was of their own people.
Moving through into Fusion from Fission as we did when going from the Plutonium munition to thermonuclear with the Hydrogen bomb being one of the initial variants, was required because like in the 40s, this was a race of ideologies. And as per the historical leaks in the early 90s when the USSR fell, they had intended a first strike use before the US could complete theirs. Thankfully we had ours as a motion of deterrence.
@@janus3555 Enjoy the movie, I think you're going to be pleased
@@janus3555 Thanks for your lengthy comment! I'm going to respond in the same format you did.
1. Japan began internally debating surrender on July 7, Emperor Hirohito forced his cabinet to send a peace delegation to Moscow on July 22nd after a lack of consensus. July 27th the "Potsdam message" was heard loud and clear and was awaiting a response from its Moscow envoy with now a majority advocating for surrender regardless of terms. Hiroshima was dropped on Aug 6th, it was only diplomatic lag why the war continued. An unequivocal waste of life.
2. I absolutely buy this line of reasoning, no criticisms here.
3. Potsdam really was designed to flex on the Soviets 100%, it's too bad the nuclear monopoly only lasted until 1949 thanks to traitors like Klaus Fuchs (who is also mentioned in the film)
The sheer casting was phenomenal alone, but all of them brought their A-game performances.
I watched it today and it was good, but not great. I felt the movie was hurt a bit by that it kept jumping between time and that the music was just unnecessarily loud at times. For interstellar this worked as there was a lot of urgency and action, but this movie is very stationary.
This time-jumping made the movie feel overly-hectic and it would have been better when time had been taken to really lay down scenes and not make everything feel like a big montage. There was no real character development. Just like in Tenet people just have a certain character and you do not really learn to care for them apart from Oppenheimer.
I also remember Oppenheimer in real life saying that people acted differently at the testing of the atomb bomb. That some laughed and some cried. Here everyone is just cheering.
I think compared to interstellar this movie isn't that great as there is not much visual spectacle nor great chemistry between characters.