Mini tub wheel well in one piece, Doubtful - Part 1
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- In this Video I show the process of laying out a one piece mini tub wheel well. Explain the basics of shrinking and thickening the metal on the power hammer, and show the first set of shrinks to start pulling the panel around.
Very well done, Mike. I look forward to the next videos!
Thank you very much! hope your doing well Ron
I appreciate the details you dive into versus others that leave out all this pertinent gold you are giving us. Thank you Mike
thanks for watching
@@stanstelmach5326 the material gets thicker at the shrank area. So the material is compressed. If the grains dont move and stack up how would the material get thicker in the areas of shrink?
This man is a master of his trade . So refreshing to see that there is still skilled people out there that have pride in their work .
Thanks but i am far from a master
Very clear explanation of shrinking/ stretching - best I've ever heard !
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Excellent explanation and demonstration. Glad I found your channel at the recommendation of Make it Kustom.
Thru out my shoulder beating on my tree strump making art deco full fenders for my oxy/acetylene cart. Got bored one night. But gosh darn it those tubes look sexy. Great video
i am always way more sore after doing shaping by hand than working large panels in the hammer
One thing that still boggles my mind, despite watching yours and several other explanations, is how the thumbnail die works - my brain wants to believe that the metal would just end up right back where it started as you pull back out, yet it doesn't. I still can't quite wrap my head around how the die doesn't just simply "undo" the tuck :)
Thank you very much for this video, looking forward to the pt2!
thanks for watching part 2 coming soon!
This is great thanks ,i am 78 and still learning can.t wait to see more Bill
More to come!
I was just looking at that post earlier this evening trying to figure out how you did that wheel tub in one piece. Great explanation of the process. Thanks for sharing this. ✌️😁
Thanks for watching
Hands down...absolute best shrinking explanation and demonstration on shrinking I've ever seen. You have an amazing talent to teach as well. Thank you for your commitment to share!!
Thanks i appreciate the kind feedback and that you watched the video.
Thanks for paying attention to the comments asking to show this process and making the videos. Really good content, especially for those that can't take the classes.
Thank you. Can't wait for the part 2
Coming soon, thanks for watching !
Well explained video, slowed down well to digest and process
Looking forward to the next two or three to button them up
thanks for checking it out, hope to have 2 more on making this part
Thank you for the video Mike I am forming some rockers and floor pan for my truck without even the simplest body tools. still this is education for the soul. Will make a Bonsai to honor your commitment to quality.
Right on
I had no idea that it was even possible to bend theae in one piece. Impressive!
Thanks, and thanks for watching
Absolutely amazing work, thanks for sharing. I understand shrinking and stretching from my blacksmith training, but this is another level. Great work can’t wait to see more.
Brilliant explainer...still don't think I'll ever do it, but if I did I'd be replaying this video quite a few times to get schooled up.
Nailed it!!!
You killed it Mike. I even made my wife watch and listen to you explain stuff. One extra potentially helpful thought on teaching / explaining - perhaps a pencil sketch of the thickness of material in the shrunk zone through a cross section diagram - help is see where the material is being moved to and how that causes panel to spread in places and contract in others. Keep up the good work Mike. You have a gift to teach. You also just a humble guy. God bless. Aaron.
Excellent video Mike, so much great information. My first attempt went so very well with your tutorials. Thank you for this content!
Wow. That is some serious shrinking and stretching of metal. Nice job! 👍
Thanks
Nice Work. Looking Forward to Seeing More. Thanks.
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Impressed by your work and how you explain!
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much for sharing your expertise on TH-cam. Very interesting. You do a great job of explaining the whole process of shrinking metal. You do amazing work. Thanks again.
Thanks for the kind words and watching
If l was a young man l would be at your door looking for a job. This work is fascinating! You sir are a genius and a master of this art. Outstanding teaching skills also. I can’t say enough good about you! Keep up the videos… please!
Nice work and explanations.
It amazed me to see this done.
Have a great day. 👍
Thanks, i appreciate you checking it out
Great video, this made the lightbulb come on :-) thank you.
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching
Very informative .. cannot wait to see the rest of the process ! Truly incredible !
thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it!
GREAT TUTORIAL MIKE, THANKS
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Mike 👍
Thanks man 👍
That is spectacular workmanship.
Thank you
Been watching you for a while now but just subscribed - I'm a big fan of metal guru's! Great work and thanks for sharing. Cheers.
Awesome, thank you! I appreciate the Subscribe
Awesome work with great visual and audio to boot !
From Down Under 🦘
Cheers
Andy
Great video , you're explanation of the process is spot on I knew exactly what you meant as you explained it. That power hammer is a beast , the question I have is can you get the same results with a smaller power hammer ? , not everyone can afford a machine that size.
thanks for watching. Yes smaller hammers are more than capable of doing these parts. I have a smaller hammer that i used to make these on. I just use the big hammer on everything now
Great video thank you for sharing your knowledge
Thanks for watching
By far one of the most informative videos that I have ever watched your detailed explanation was spot on
Science = Organized knowledge. I'd say that was in and itself the best explanation and demonstration I've ever seen on how metal forming is done. Unbelievably cool 👀
Great video. I'd like to take one of your metal shaping workshops
Thanks for watchign, That would be cool if you come to a class !
Nice to meet you, Karl said you were informative, He was right
Thanks for the video
Thank you so much, your a great teacher, looking forward to part 2
thank you, part 2 coming soon
Thanks for the detailed and knowledgeable tutorial man 👌👌👌
thanks for watching
Absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for sharing. Fantastic explanation and very well spoken! The drawings are great also!
great explanation can't wait for the next episodes
Very helpful. Thanks for posting.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
@@cornfieldcustoms I tried making that piece on my MH19 early this year. I never could get the wavy part to come all the way over and tighten up the piece. After watching your part 1 I am thinking that I didn’t have the hammer blow intensity set right. Ultimately I ended up making the pieces in 2 parts using a round over die (covell tank die) in the bead roller and then welding the center of the radius. They came out OK but not great. After I watch you finish the one that you are making I will try making mine on the hammer again. I never installed the ones I made in the spring. Anyway thanks again for the post. It is much appreciated.
Enjoyed watching your video very informative and clear tips 👍
Drawings looked spot on bro
Thanks Mike! Great video, loads of good information. A key takeaway for me is to focus on getting the shrinks to accurately form the radius of the bend before worrying about the floppy outer edge. I know how much extra effort it is to produce videos on top of actually getting work done, much appreciated!
Thanks for watching, start and stop points are super important and often over looked
Utmost respect to you metal worker guys. Really impressive to craft something so clean out of what seems like such difficult and unforgiving material. Interesting and informative video!
Really great video on a complex subject.
thanks for watching
Great info as always!
Thanks again!
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and explain how it works so easily. Enjoy watching an artist work.
You are an excellent teacher Mike. You make a complicated subject easier to understand. Thanks!
Thank you for sharing this information Sir.
My pleasure
Great work.
Many many thanks
Learning at this level is never boring. Please take as long as you like. Real time video is monkey see monke do. 👍
This is awesome!! I’ll need to make similar wheel tubs for my project soon, so to see them come together is very inspiring.
thanks for watching , hopefully it was helpful
@@cornfieldcustoms it was!! I was trying to get my head around how to make the radius happen without wrecking the area that need to remain flat. Can’t wait to see part2!!
Thanks for the straightforward explanation.
I would love to be able to work metal like that. Very skilled work.
Thanks
First one I’ve seen in one piece. Beautiful! Thanks
Great video. I can't wait for part 2.
Thanks for sharing, always interesting and informative!
Very well explained process. I have made a set of these dies for use in a Pullmax and they work very well.
Thank you some much for sharing and explaining this. And for doing it so thoroughly
More of this i watch, the more i understand.
Thanks
fascinating process
Thanks, it changes the way you think about making parts when you dive into shaping
AMAZING information!! Incredible! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
wow, I'm just stunned!
thanks for watching
@@cornfieldcustoms watch nothing!, I want to go live in your shop for a year and learn what you know
Wow, Absolutely one of the best teaching video's I have seen! I love seeing that wheel well made in one piece, and I love power tools, I understand they cost a lot of money, but doing it by hand kills my shoulder just thinking about it!
Very good ...
Matt
Precision Panel craft... Closing the panel a bit can help shrink.
Thanks but i have it under control
Great explanation,
Thanks for watching
Thanks man , explained very well 😎👍
Amazing!
Thanks
Great explanation! I'm struck by the difference between what you can accomplish on the big power hammer and others I've seen using hand tools or smaller spring powered hammers. That thing is a beast.
thanks for watching.
Awesome 👍
Thanks
G.R.E.A.T. VIDEO. Thank you
Great video!
Thanks!
Mike very good explanation, thank you, what type of steel do you use A K deep drawn metal? Can’t wait tell the next video, thank you once again.
Great vid 👌
thanks
Nice drawings
Thank you so much 😀
👍👍😎👍👍 fantastic demo - thank you
I'm in for episode 2 for sure! My question is if you didn't have a power hammer would you split this into 2 pieces?
yes if you were doing this with hand tools or some lighter power tools 2 sections would be the only way to achieve it, unless you spin it and cut out, but that a whole different topic
This was a great video, you're a great teacher Mike. If you were to make this part with a mallet and stump, you'd have to flip the panel, right? When you crush the tucks with a mallet, the panel is pushed outwards (convex). I'm trying to figure out how I could do something similar with hand tools.
if you were to make this with a mallet and a stump you would have to make it in 2 pieces and weld them together
great video thanks
Thanks, make sure to check out the rest of the series on it
Are you using AK material? Great explanation on the process. Thanks
No just standard cold roll
Don't sell yourself short on your drawing skills. Although I've seen the thumbnail dies used plenty the view you chose and talking about being pulled back thru finally made sense to me for the first time. Kind of a "lightbulb" moment for me.
Thank you Mike!
Thanks for watching
Amazing knowledge and abilities. I am assuming you made many "mistakes" along the way to get to this point of your learning abilities. And I also assume you didn't start with the power hammer machine, but hand tools as you progressed. So that is where most of us are presently working with metal forming. Thanks for the lesson and video...
how cool is this video
Thanks for checking it out
Great
thank you
Will it be same effective when done on pullmax
yes and no. You can use thumbnail dies in a pull max but it not as clean or effective. the hammer is spring loaded with more tool gap and the upper anvil get thrown by the springs to hammer. the pullmax is a fixed stroke so it wont hit as hard and tooling has to be tight to close the tuck. as the material get thicker by shrinking it will begin to stretch out unless you are constantly changing tool gap settings. I rarely ever do any shrink work on a pullmax.
@@cornfieldcustoms understood..thankyou for replying
Much appreciated
Thanks for watching
well actually you can also drill metal draw it, upset it, and rivet it, but I suppose thats a differant type of metal work and names for much the same concepts but you say you offer classes and lessons in shaping and crafting? hmm sounds like I might be interested if I had the time. but thanks for showing us the layout, its so seamless its a work of art
Drilling is a form of cutting, drawing is a form of stretching it, riveting is a form of attachment
Upsetting is thickening = shrinking
@@cornfieldcustoms ah yes but you said welding, a differant method of attachment, and of course the operations I mentioed have more to do with bar stock or slug metal not thin plate or sheet metal, but I guess you do thick stuff too bending frame and tube and its crazy how well it works without even kinking the metal heh,
I guess I am trying to be a wiseguy
thats a big hammer, how much force does it hit with at max pressure per blow, I am more familier with forging type power hammers or presses which have the force of the ram or weight of the hammer, not necessarily the blows per minute.
welding and attaching are totally different things.
lets say you have 2 pieces of .500 1018 Mild steel. You forge weld them together ( 100 % clean, no cold shuts, or delam, a perfect forge weld) , what do you have? 1 solid billet of 1018 mild steel. you can not go back in and separate the 2 back into their own individual pieces. now take 2 identical pieces of .500 1018 Mild steel, you rivet ( bolt, tape, glue, zip tie) the 2 pieces together, What do you have? 2 pieces of 1018 mild steel rivet ( attached ) together. you can easily knock the rivet out and you are back to the 2 individual pieces you started with.
Welding and attaching are different theories and i was not talking about attaching since it doesnt have anything to do with the 5 core principles of modifying a ( singular) piece of metal. it doest matter material shape size or thickness, you want to modify a piece of metal you are shrinking, stretching, cutting, bending, or welding.
@@cornfieldcustoms right but I was playing devils advocate since they weren't mentioned by name, so how much force does the powerhammer hit with at max pressure curious to compare to a forging power hammer.
When if ever would you use a bag?
I would love to have your equipment but not quite there.
i rarely shape much in a bag any more personally, when i do it is just faster to block out an area with a mallet than set up one of the hammers
thanks for this nice explanation. I have just one question. You said, it is essential to stop right at the line. Where actually are stoping in regards of the die? Is the outer flat area not crossing the line or is the tuck going til the line?
You dont pay attention to the die. You stop the shrink at the line. Not the die or the tuck itself. There is an area just in front of tuck thats kind of a horse shoe shape thats what is stopped at the line. Its the front edge of the shrink
@@cornfieldcustoms Thanks for the
explanation
Do u stop the shrink on the radius line with the front or the back of the thumb nail
Neither, you stop it at the point where the shrink stops. In the video at the point where i show you the unclosed tuck, it is the front U shape of the tuck. You stop that U at the line
@@cornfieldcustoms thank u for clarification it makes sense to me now
When shrinking using thumnail dies how far apart should your tucks be knowing ng it depends on how much shrinking you need and when you lay out your high light lines and blend lines do you go to the high light line with the back of the thumb ?
@@Iconicmetalworks how close together is dictated by the pattern. The tuck stops at a kidney bean shape just forward of the male section of the thumb on the tooling. That is where i stop the shrink at the light line. You have to look through the tooling while shrinking to see it.
Do you use the hammer in the reciprocating mode or the power hammer mode?
Power hammer. I have a lennox recip machine so i only use the power hammer in hammer mode
@@cornfieldcustoms OK, thanks for responding to questions
How hot can these panels get when you're working them?
they get warm from shaping, not hot enough to burn you or anything
Not trying to be smart, but what about casting and forging? Two further processes to make parts out of metal?
Casting - melting the metal down and starting over or fresh as mentioned. forging- compressing grain = Shrinking. I think your missing the point and just trying to nit pick my statement to fit some preconceived narrative. But thanks for watching any way
@@cornfieldcustoms really, are you that sensitive, you could have just educated me to your opinion that forging and shrinking are the same thing, instead of projecting some nefarious intent on my part that just wasn't there- unsubscribed.
Thats fine, thanks for subscribing while you did. I am not sensitive about anything. Just clearly explaining the answer. Have a great day
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