Zen Deckbuilding Discussion for PT Amsterdam

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
  • Just wanted to briefly go over deck building considerations and opinions
    Feel free to let me know your thoughts in the comments
    I also discuss what I would potentially bring to PT Amsterdam at the end (although I don't have enough time to test the validity of this strategy)
    Also editors note (at the end I mean d-reacts as opposed to sinks into Pankaj)
    Thanks

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  • @madifz
    @madifz หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Also wanted to add I picked up your list last week and played zen blind into talishar. Proceeded to win my first 3 games ever on zen, and many more wins since. List and gameplan is incredibly smooth and before this video i also felt flusters were just on rate damage and didn’t really played any role. Thanks for the videos, I definitely learnt how to play zen from them.

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to know the videos are helping folks
      Deck is very hard to pilot well, and takes a lot of practice

  • @madifz
    @madifz หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I didnt know you won the SeaTac PQ+, no wonder your gamplay video discussions felt so polished

  • @Movieseecker
    @Movieseecker หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video.

  • @NefraSil
    @NefraSil หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don't you cut level of enlightment on Nuu MU? Isn't it too dangerous because of Bonds of agony?

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yep I do, Just because of bonds and also late game they can kill you with it

  • @fachowf4637
    @fachowf4637 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any zen content is great content!

  • @makvag
    @makvag หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep up the good work!

  • @DuckSlinger11
    @DuckSlinger11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, great video! I opened a marvel Zen at my local prerelease and have been playing him ever since! My first CC deck and I've been having a great time. Post bonds ban I found myself leaning more into tigers with roar of the tiger and such, but something didn't quite feel right with it.
    Your list seems very consistent less clunky than my version.
    Question, what is trom? Tram? I don't know that card. Thanks a lot!

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you like the video.
      This Rounds on Me!

  • @prodigy8716
    @prodigy8716 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you say die roll dependent like against prism. What is the die roll that you want? You prefer first or second?

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Against decks that want to setup a board like prism, DIO, kano, enigma, etc

    • @prodigy8716
      @prodigy8716 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FleshAndBadso you’re saying first is correct? Talishar data seems to suggest otherwise.

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@prodigy8716 Where are you seeing this data?
      Not saying you're wrong, but qualitatively it feels a lot better going first into prism
      My personal data going first I'm 4-0
      going second I'm 3-3

    • @prodigy8716
      @prodigy8716 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FleshAndBad the data is on Fabrary tabulated over like 500 games or something collected from online games on Talishar. Personally I’ve experienced the same results as you though.

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@prodigy8716 Ah I see, I didn't know this was a feature
      Good to know. very interesting
      At the time of commenting I see 68% first and second, so seems like it might not matter much

  • @MasBuleMain
    @MasBuleMain หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whats your opinion on switching the following:
    Spellfray Gloves -> Nullrune Gloves
    MoPL -> Spellfray Tiara
    Salt & Lantern are now free sideboard slots
    Maintaining AB2 SV1 into Kano
    or potentially only cutting salt, thus resulting in AB3 SV1 while having 1 free sb slot for other matchups?

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think these are both reasonable, you probably on average give kano like 1 - 1.5 turns longer to live
      I think lynx without salt is normally only about 4 damage (either with swipe or desc to bonds)
      If I wasn't running salt I would probably just use tiara, and then do AB3 sv1 w/ nullrune gloves, kasaya, lantern, and tide flippers

  • @chrysoarr5237
    @chrysoarr5237 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very insightful thank you.
    If fluster fist is bad as a chain ender why not just play the same list and switch those with censor?
    Or is the combo count too low then?
    The sound it really low overall just fyi.

    • @FleshAndBad
      @FleshAndBad  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think 7 Chain-enders may be too many, I think 5 to 6 is probably around what you want just to avoid drawing multiples
      I think you could definitely play censor, but I think weakest is overall a little bit stronger, I think 27 is bordering on the lower end of combo count, but probably playable
      Also thanks for the feedback on the audio, still working on figuring out some of the obs/sound settings