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Can you please resend original video. I can’t seem to locate it. My parents first cousins but was able to work out who was who. However, they have a first cousin, also deceased, but his daughter has Ancestry, and I thought I could compare mum and dad from her dads. Thanks.
This is in its infancy and I am looking forward to see where this goes. No one can say by taking a Ancestry DNA test your not getting your money worth only because it is a work in progress you didn't just spit and that spit discarded it is constantly being updated.
If you're saying Ancestry is infantile you'd have a point, and they don't care enough to begin to grow up. The science is not in its infancy. Only the people applying it.
I'm really looking forward to what might be coming. I've been saying ever since I started with genetic genealogy that Ancestry's tools are frustratingly lacking given all the data that they have. We shouldn't have to manually group matches -- Ancestry already has the data necessary to do it programmatically.
Unfortunately it isn’t that simple because individuals can match on more than one line and from both parents. To be accurate it needs to be verified with research as well.
@@carokat1111 This is true. And, methods like the Leeds Method for grouping DNA cousins do tend to break down when dealing with endogamy, but with the same caveats in mind regarding how they're doing SideView some rudimentary grouping automation would be a huge benefit to users.
If you're satisfied with that, fine, perhaps you don't want very detailed knowledge about your father; but you'll get a much clearer idea who your father was ethnically by identifying him and researching his tree.
This is fascinating for me. My parents have both passed away and I never got their DNA which I know they both would’ve been fascinated by. My mom was an amateur genealogist and got me started in this when I was a child in the 1970’s. It’s amazing knowing my mother’s side is almost 100% German immigrants in late 19th century. But it shows as England and Northwestern Europe more than Germanic. I love these videos and seeing all the ways the DNA information is updated.
Wow, this is incredible! I took the Ancestry test in part to try to find my biological father. Now I have half of his ethnic makeup in a pie chart, this is amazing! He was Greek! That's where the Portuguese comes from as well and some French. Thank you so much for making this video I never would have known this was a thing!
Thank you, Connie! APB: As Connie has pointed out, parent 1 is NOT necessarily mother: I visited my son last week and we found this feature while playing with Ancestry. For both of us, parent 1 was father's side. It was fun seeing how much of each of my groups he got from me, and where he got none! My only surprise: I got some Welsh from both sides- & he inherited the entire Welsh package . It's a treat to get something like this, which is Not based on matches ' trees! (Some of my ThruLines make me groan.) I'm actually excited to see the follow-up! Thanks again!
I also found it by accident a few days ago. Parent 2 is my dad and always wondered on which side I had inherited Norweigan DNA from. Now I know. So exciting.
This immediately solved a mystery for me. My highest ethnicity percentage was Germanic Europe which since has gone right down to 5%. I could not place it but thought it was obviously from my dad as his family come from several different places in the world whereas my mum’s side is from the United Kingdom. My dad convinced me it was not from his side. which was great for me as I thought it might help with a brick wall on my mum’s side. This update has confirmed that it is from my dad’s side. It is helpful because now I know it will not help with the brick wall.
This has helped so much, looking for biological mother. BAM!!!!, Now it helps looking for cousins only with her ethnicity, WOW!!! This is the best clue yet.
This is a great feature, I knew my Dads parents had English, Irish, Welsh & Scottish Ancestry, via the census, (Showed on the original DNA test taken). My Mums, I had just English on the Census. The bit of German which showed up on my DNA, I wasn't sure whether it was my Mums or Dads side...well, it was on my Mums side. Just English with the little smidge of German. Thanks for sharing this info.😊
This is interesting. I checked my results and they've been updated to the point that they better match my paper trail - even down to the region of some small European countries. Parent 1 was dad and it was spot-on. Still can't quite match up some of my mom's ethnicity estimates with the paper trail though. Can't wait to see where this goes!
Thank you for explaining the difference between your parents ethnicity, and the ethnicity you inherit from your parents. That 50% difference is important
My 82 year old sister-in-law’s parents were so similar in their ethnicities that we haven’t figured out which is parent 1 and parent 2. Mine on the other hand though… my mother was half Alaska native so I can see immediately which is which.
I to was able to easily split the parents line. My dad is the only one with the Greek and my mom only one with the African but they are small amounts. Other then them differences, I wouldn't be able to identify who was who. Lol.
Wow this is an amazing new tool. Thank you so much for going over it Connie! Just saw a new ethnicity Sweden/Denmark 4% for me from my dad's side. Checked his results and sure enough 8% for him from his mother. The updated DNA communities also might have broken down a brick wall for me. Dad's father's side were Romanian Jews that spoke German, never knew from where though originally (pre 1800s). Now it has DNA shared with Bohemian Jewish communities as well as the Moldovan Jewish Communities. Lots of new leads to research now. I can't wait to see just how much further Ancestry can take this in the future.
Hi Connie - thank you for another very informative video. My Ancestry ethnicity estimate has improved dramatically with this update, but there are still a few bugs in the system. For example, my mother. Parent 2 is clearly my father, which means Parent 1 has to be my mother. My mother's mother was the daughter of Irish immigrants, and her father was the son of an Englishman and a French woman. My mother is deceased, but I have verified her parentage through the DNA matches of myself and my siblings. So my mother was half Irish, 25% English and 25% French. But Ancestry is telling me that the DNA I inherited from my mom is 100% Irish and Scottish. Even with random DNA inheritance, I'm pretty sure that's impossible. I must have gotten some of her English and French DNA, or else I wouldn't be a DNA match to so many people on her father's side of the family. And Ancestry is still giving me and my siblings way too much Scottish ethnicity overall. So I'm happy for the improvement, but the high accuracy rate they are touting doesn't apply to me.
Oh, the possibilities.....I had no idea!! I was tested many years ago, but neither of my parents! I don't spend enough time studying all of my DNA matches. Until your earlier video on how to understand those who have no tree or unlinked trees, I really didn't do much at all with the results! Thanks for all of your information!!!
Love this feature. I know we only inherit 50% from each parent so I understand my parents' ethnicity inheritance showing countries that are not listed on mine (Greece & Albania, Eastern Europe & Russia). But I was surprised to see some countries on mine that didn't appear on either parent's results (Northern Italy, Norway, Baltics). Yet they are attributed to the parent I expected to inherit them from. I know it's said to be 95% accurate so I guess that's where they fall but I was still surprised not to see them listed on their breakdown.
Hello Connie. Looking through the comments that you received, I'd say that many people don't have a clear understanding of how DNA is inherited (especially the seemingly random distributions) and the way that percentages work. I wish I had a better grip on it myself, it seems that a video explaining this would be helpful. Thank you for your work. I enjoy your videos!
Thanks for your comment. I have a playlist of 38 videos on DNA and growing. It is here for anyone to see. th-cam.com/play/PLiMXWjHlj5RQ_iInPLinVtIxjyzn3yE4o.html
Actually, this is something that 23andme and FamilyTree made available a while back, but without much fanfare. They provide a breakout of each chromosome by parental side (23andme calls it DNA Painting and FamilyTree calls it Chromosome Painter). It’s pretty much the same thing as what Ancestry has done, but they’re packaging it differently.
I had mine done in 2013 by 23 and Me and for that feature to work, you still need at least one parent to test. She is saying here you don't need either parent. And no testing company is going to be accurate at all when it comes to British/Irish and French/German because it remains illegal in Germany to do testing and as a proxy, all the companies have used Utah White (Mormons) and that is assumed because there were so many German people then, the Mormons were mostly also, like the Amish. They would have done better testing the Amish because at least they can point out their ancestry on a map. When Germany allows it, then we would see better results.
I’ve been noticing recently that some (not a lot) of my new DNA matches are pre-labeled as “Father’s side” before I’ve even viewed them. I haven’t seen any pre-labeled as “Mother’s side” yet, but my distant cousins on my dad’s side definitely make up the majority of my matches because his mother’s side goes back to the Mayflower. It also seems people with the oldest American histories (as opposed to those with more recent immigrant families) are the most motivated to learn their DNA ethnicity. My other 3 family lines are fairly recent immigrants and I find more cousin matches on MyHeritage, which has a higher European user base.
Have been doing family history for years. I'm new to this; just got my DNA results a day ago! Found it fairly easy to follow on the app. Didn't realize this was such a new feature - really like it! Have a similar situation in being able to tell what was from which parent. Parent 2 was my dad, also. Glad to have found this.
Forgive me if I have said this before. My mother was 20% Irish on Ancestry Autosomal testing. This led to me testing myself on 23 & ME as my father carried a gene variant for an iron overload (haemochromatosis) which is really common in Ireland. 1 in 2 people in Dublin carry this variant, also known as the Celtic Curse when homozygotic (2 copies.) This caused me to test myself on 23 and Me thus delaying testing Dad's Y lineage on Family Tree DNA. Now I find that Mum is only 1% Irish!! Whilst I understand ethnicity is ongoing research: I felt the 19% difference was a bit much!
When my DNA results came in a few months ago and the ethnicity mentioned Jewish, I thought, who the heck did I inherit THAT from? Well, given that all my the Jewish % is from the same parent as the Irish and I know for a fact the Irish comes from my mothers side, I now know that I inherited the Jewish bit from her too. Thank you Connie (and Ancestry of course).
I WISHED My heritage has this - My mother Tested with Ancestry & I was going to But my son bought me a Kit from them - It fun to use this tool on her DNA & love all the Tips - keep up the great work
Can't wait for the next installments Ancestry is releasing. This will help especially for people with ancestry from Western New York in the 1780, 1800 era where there are fewer records. I've been searching for James Riley Arnolds family for 44 years with a thick brick wall. Maybe after all this time I will finally get some answers.
I was very excited to find out about this cool feature. My mom was born in Honduras and my Dad in Panama 🇵🇦 so it’s kind of tricky to me to know who is which.
This tool is awesome. It actually verified my current research. My DNA has Africian in it. My maternal 5th GGF is a pre civil war freed slave. This knowledge allowed me to say Parent 1 was my dad and parent 2 was mom cause of where the African appeared.
The parental DNA profile separation was a bit hard to find (an Ancestry agent helped me) and it’s a great tool for better understanding where our ancestors came from on each side. For me - I have surprise ancestors on my dad’s side that I always assumed was from my mother’s side. Now I have a new mystery to solve.
Unfortunately I have doubts whether this 'feature' works, at least in the case of the sample I manage. Both parents show Baltics at more or less the same percentage (19% vs 22%) the problem is that only the father came from Baltics region. All his parents, grandparents, great grandparents and 2xgreat grandparents were also born in the same region (vicinity of Vilnus), so this region should be spot on. According to Ancestry second parent has similar Baltics ancestry - this is highly unlikely, as I am fortunate enough to have her complete ancestry up to 4xgreat grandparents - not even a hint of Baltics (all of them lived at least 600km west from Baltics region). I guess that Ancestry barely distinguishes Baltics from Eastern Europe. I will have stronger proof when I do a DNA check on the mother.
Thank you Connie, Good to see how this works and as I have, seemingly, 100% Irish ancestry (all the other little ethnicities are gone) and I have two perfect yellow halves making up one entirely yellow whole. I cannot wait for the stuff that is coming down the road as it has to be more use to me than this. I do think that it will be great for those that have questions about their parentage though and especially useful for those who have immigrants in their ancestry.
Thank you Connie..just loved this! I did exactly what you showed and I also was able to separate my parents even though 2 different nationalities..Father-Irish..Mother iItalian..this was awesome!
I was lucky, and got both of my parents (both in their 80's) to get the test this year. Which has made cousin matching "easier". Not clear cut, but definitely easier. I'll have to watch this again later. Pressed for time today.
Very cool stuff, Connie! I wasn't aware of the new estimates or features, so I'm glad I watched this video. I also subscribed to your Channel! Keep the great content coming.
Thanks Connie for this video. I had to go in and check out the 20+ DNA tests I manage. It sure is fun trying to tease out which parent is which, some easy some not so easy. Easiest is my SO whose grandmother is Samoan, others not so much. Looking forward to new tools to be released!
I so appreciate you mentioning the challenge faced by endogamous populations, which applies to my situation. I, too, hope that will change in the future.
@@GenealogyTV Last week I found out that my grandfather's 1st cousin once removed on one side of his family became his uncle on the other side of his family by marrying 2 of his fathers sisters. That plays funny things with the cM numbers on the cousin matches. Makes them calculate as closer estimates than they really are.
The problem is that you cannot take this kind of features too seriously. In our country, the majority of users have ethnicities that do not appear in their paper genealogy in last 10-13 generations (cca 400 years) at all. Also, from the principle of autosomal DNA testing, it is not possible to distinguish paternal and maternal chromosomes, so even if Ancestry claims they can do it, it will not be based on reality but on statistics only and have a high error rate. They should rather provide more meaningful features, such as a chromosome browser, shared matches triangulation etc. instead of these "maybe-it-works" features.
I have recently been intrigued by the concept of how many generations does it take to wipe out evidence of part of my DNA history. If I have an ancestor from Wales (as example) and he comes to America and does not marry a woman from Wales their kids are only 50% DNA from Wales. If all of their descendants do not marry someone from Wales, it takes 9 generations for that Wales DNA to be practically 0%. Heck, when I go back 9 generations on my tree, most of the time I am not to the immigrant ancestor yet. How much of my DNA history has been lost...? I'll never know.
Now how cool is that? Thank you so much. I would have never thought to go back and check that from time to time. Now I gotta figure out if mom or dad is parent #1 and #2. Thanks again.
My mother has documented German ancestry but didn't show German ethnicity until this last update. My twin sister and I don't show any Germanic ethnicity, however, my older brother and sister do. All my ancestors arrived in the US before 1753 to VA and MD, migrating through NC & SC to TN & KY by the early 1800s, and married into families with the same background and patterns. This Germanic info can now determine her parent's matches, Her parents were cousins, and this Germanic line is the only difference between their ethnic lineage. My mother is related to herself 9 times. My father is related to himself 4 times, and there is no way to split ethnicity between his parents. Without sibling DNA tests, separating Parent 1 from Parent 2 would be impossible.
Seeing as how my parents share a common ancestor in 1700's Massachusetts and how three quarters of my family tree is from Metro Boston/RI since their settlement, I am bot sure how helpful this will be to people like me. My mother's grandparents share common ancestors from the founding of RI. Thank goodness for the European upheaval 200 years later in 1848 to send by Welsh and Bavarian ancestors over. And they are in the other quarter of my tree. AND my DH and I just found out we share common Mayflower ancestors. Can't get anymore white and nerdy than that!
So I had to log in to Ancestry to have a peek and I was not expecting that update. Lucky me I know one side of the fam is Maori and the other Chinese so was able to know instantly what parent was on which side. What I wasn't expecting was that they actually branched out on the Asian regions to find out my dad was not only Chinese but also had Dai in him, of course, I have no idea about any of his Asian heritage as the family westernized their name to stop the racial discrimination they got after coming here. So to see the expansion looking forward to where they go. I'm gunna show my dad the update when I'm over at his next.
I went on ancestry last night after not being on there for a few weeks and they changed things a bit. Now you have to be a paid member to see what you got from your parents it looks like.
I noticed this feature a few days ago but it doesn't specifically tell you which parent you get your DNA you have too figure it out pretty cool though.
I have been looking forward you and Jarrett's opinion on the new tool! (can't wait to see what's to come) I was also able to know which side was my maternal and paternal (due to specific countries), now I for sure (as much as currently possible), know that my Puerto Rican ancestry comes from my mom, I at the beginning had my doubts but this seems to be confirming it, now to find out how lol Thank you so much for the video, I always appreciate your input and knowledge ♥
Cool! I stopped this video and ran to ancestry lol. My parents and maternal grandmother have all been tested and i run their accounts. It’s pretty cool to see the separation. My dad and I have 1% indigenous DNA and it’s going to be cool to look at his DNA inheritance to see which parent he got it from since they are both deceased! On my maternal side, my grandmother and i have 1% DNA from Spain and i know 1% isn’t a lot. We are African American and to my knowledge, Spain and Greece aren’t common DNA segments we normally have? Thanks for the info! Very cool
Someone needs to tell me how my mother has 0% England & Northwestern Europe/my father has 4% England & Northwestern Europe, but I have 20% England & Northwestern Europe. Both my parents were tested, the breakdown they did for parents 1 & 2 are wrong. My sister was also tested, and her parental breakdown also doesn't match our parents. They need to do a lot of work on this new feature.
Where I see this going...Users add parent labels, dna matches. Ancestry can then analyze more confirmed family groups. For example, my husband & I and all our kids tested, my sister, niece, cousins, etc.
I am very excited to see what else Ancestry has in store for us! I hope one of the surprises is a chromosome browser, or at least access to segment data. :) Thanks for another great video. Have a blessed day.
@@GenealogyTV I don't think so, either, but one can hope. I never hold my breath for anything from any of these companies. They're going to do what they're going to do, regardless of what their customers ask for.
Still believe ancestry somehow someway gets it wrong. Unsure wether it's because they only test autosomal DNA or what but like 23andme says I'm 54.1% German and ancestry only 15%. Ancestry says my Scandinavian dna is like 26% and 23andme says my Scandinavian dna is only 1.2%. I do believe the 23andme is more accurate. We want answers for the accuracy of results and we just aren't getting them basically. I think thats a problem.
I manage my Mom's account and I took a DNA test and my side view from my Mom's side doesn't match with her DNA. I have ethnicity that the side views say I got from my Mom but she doesn't even have that DNA
Great video, I had no idea this was in there. As suspected, my father’s contribution is all Irish, my mothers is almost all Irish, but my touch of scotch and welsh is all from her.
This sounds good. I'm into historical DNA and have uploaded to a site that links DNA archaeological sites. Hopefully they will both link up. I've got DNA that links to Erik the Reds farmstead Bratthalid in Greenland and St Brice's Day Massacre sites in Oxford and Weybridge.
I love your videos and your demeanour first off! However, when it comes to this new Ancestry feature I have my doubts and it sounds to me like another shiny object on their site. I say that because for a while now when we get our dna matches, Ancestry asks us if they are on our Paternal side or on our Maternal side and it sounds to me as if they compiled that information that WE provided to divide what ethnicity belong to which side once they gather the information. So technically, this new 'feature' is simply information we have been providing Ancestry.
I manage my and my mom's DNA, but I ran into an issue. They claim 95% accuracy, but I have 2 problems. I inherited 4% Swedish from my mom, but her DNA shows no Swedish. I can't inherit something she doesn't have. She should show Swedish? The other problem I have is some of her ancestors were German (Sultemeier's), so she must not have inherited German from that random portion or my genealogy is wrong,. It's possible my German's show up under NW Europe.
Trouble is, it says Parent 1 and Parent 2. My Dad had tested so I can compare against his. However he has no Jewish so assume parent 2 is my Mum. However My "Mum" has no Scottish and I know we have Scottish ancestry not that far back.
I learned thru my DNA that my Dad is NOT my biological father. My Mom's 99 and swears the DNA is wrong. I have no idea how to find out who my real father is. 😥
I think Ancestry is pretty accurate. My bio dad denied me. I'm the youngest of 3..said only my older sibs were his. I was raised by my maternal Aunt. My brother did his DNA & we are FULL siblings 😊 My Aunt always felt that my older sister was the one not his..she looks real different from maternal & paternal side 🤷🏽♀️ She has not done her DNA. I wish my dad was alive so I can rub it in his face 🤪 I also have cousins from my maternal side who have popped up on my DNA. They live in a different state & I didn't even know that they did their DNA. We all have the same grandfather who was born in 1866 in Mississippi. He was named after President Lincoln..so you can figure out the connection..slavery. My grandfather was born the year after slavery ended in the south.
I have both parents AND mine...I'm going to have the daughter tested as my husband has had his as well...this is getting fun. Thanks for the explanations.
If you have your husband tested and you have tested, there is no need to have your daughter tested. Her DNA comes half from you and half from your husband... unless you just want to see how much she inherited from each of you.
@@GenealogyTV While what you are saying is absolutely true the test of a son or daugther does provides some additional matches that do not show up for any parent. I think it has to do with how they are matching the different strains. So this testing is not completely useless to do as well.
My DNA says that I'm 14% Scottish. Parent 1 (my deceased mother) didn't give me any DNA from Scotland. My father, Parent 2, is alive and has taken the test. He's 8% Scottish. So if I received none from my mom, and my dad is only 8%, where did the other 6% come from? And I have close relatives linked to me from both sides, so my parents are my parents.
DNA ethnicity split no use to me, my research states I am English, both sides have other ethnicities so cannot tell them apart. Had my late mother tested but does not help.
I don’t know which parent is which. My aunt and cousins breakdown changed completely and where my aunt and I matched in %s, now her countries have changed and my cousins too. So I don’t come close to other side now. My son’s father has a lot of Scottish but all the Scottish is mine. So because he has some different ethnicity on his father’s side, he can tell his parents apart. For me it’s no help.
Would be great if both parent's actually tested - they would apply it to the SideView - which it does not do yet. Matches for me are already labeled Mother/Father's side because of their tests. Hoping for that upgrade in the future.
Great video and I agree this is a great feature, however in my case it's a little confusing. A few years ago we tested my grandfather, who is now 102, to hopefully unlock living relatives and to back further to identify common ancestors. He is from Ulster and so when his results came back we were interested, but really weren't doing the test for ethnicity reasons but to help build our family tree, which we'd already done quite extensively. His initial results came back 60% Irish, 40% Scottish, and I thought even though he's Irish and all the ancestors of his back at least 3 generations were from Ireland knowing the history of the region this was plausible. Getting this new feature said one parent was fully Irish and the other was 46% (of 50) Scottish. This isn't a criticism of this feature but I wish Ancestry wouldn't label it like this because it's really Irish/Scottish in my mind. I will be interested in knowing which parent is which because although he does have DNA matches from Scotland, especially ones we'd not linked up yet, they all may have been distant relatives who moved from Ireland to Scotland (we already have concrete evidence of this happening quite a bit to work in the Glasgow shipyards). I am also aware of the link between south west Scotland and Ulster because of the plantations and previously I had thought that Ancestry had a region (or community) that encompassed these two areas, but now they label it was Ireland (specifically a part of Northern Ireland) and Scotland. I don't know if this is just Ancestry not defining their regions correctly or whether there is something I'm missing or have gotten wrong. Thanks for explaining that the ethnicity of the parents from my grandfather's DNA results won't be the exact ethnicity of his parents (it depends on which parts of their DNA they passed on), but in this case near 100% just be fairly decisive. The other thing that annoys me a little is that often the error ranges can be quite big but unless you dig and just take the numbers at face value you can't effectively not realise this. So in summary I love the feature and can't wait for more, however it has thrown up more questions than answers for me!!!
You mentioned you were expecting DNA to match your Family citizenship back three generations. Remember DNA testing is revealing heritage back several Hundreds of years. We don’t usually need DNA back to our grandparents as most people know where they lived. But the point of DNA is to reach back in time to locate our family we didn’t know and past the record trail into the 400+ year range. There was not as much constant travel then and the ethnicity groups were more localized. So don’t set your expectations to have Ancestry match where your grandparents happened to live, when they’re showing your much further back in time.
@@kjw79 Thanks for your comments. The DNA test was done on my grandfather a few years ago, who had just had his 100th birthday, and wasn't really done to discover ethnicity, he's from Ulster and so having a mixture of Irish, Scottish, and maybe some other British and Scandinavian DNA. It was done to try and work out where his great grandfather was from mainly via DNA matches. His mother has a very Irish surname, that of the clan that rolled the region and was from, her parents having very Irish names. His father has an Irish name albeit from the other end of Ireland, survivals County Cork, however he wasn't Catholic and his parents could very well, almost expected, introduced this Scottish DNA, although we have no evidence of this, and neither are a Scottish name. I completely agree with you that the DNA can be from a lot further back, but for one parent to have come from what Ancestry says is one region would mean (assuming that it can be identified as Scottish, which I'm not sure it can) the parents of that parent would have to have come from that region. Some people have asked if there could have been non parental event, which is always possible, but as far as I've found out from DNA matches from all parents and grandparents is that this isn't the case. Lastly I only mentioned being able to go back 3 generations because this is my grandfather who is over 100 years of age (so both around 1920) so we've gone back to around 1800, going back any further is difficult because of the lack of records available from before this time. Apart from DNA matches in not sure there's much more I can do. There are some matches from Scotland, but I think as I said before these are from the more Irish side of the family and ski think we'll have registered from Ireland to Scotland for work and so aren't Scottish DNA and these aren't direct ancestors but distant cousins.
To add an update to my previous comments (reading them back so many typos, oops, but it is just about understandable) - I've found a lot of Irish ancestors that went over to Scotland, which I know was a thing, to go over to the Glasgow area to work in the shipyards for example, married Scots, had children, and carried on living over there (some of their children emigrated to the US and Australia, hence why more have done DNA tests I suspect). Because of this I don't think it is that easy for Ancestry to distinguish between Scottish DNA and Ulster DNA, maybe in another 100 years of they didn't have any of this knowledge it'd have been called American or Australian DNA, almost impossible to tell apart. Because of this (and I'm not saying there is no Scottish DNA in my grandfather's DNA, mainly because some ancestors were Presbyterian or Church of Ireland and had not very Irish names) I'm not sure that except where certain parts of DNA just aren't found distinctly in one of these regions you can call it, not until a lot more data is in. I find it odd that Ancestry splits Ireland and Scotland distinctly down the Irish Sea, but when you go in and have a look at the communities there are two that straggle both Scotland and Ulster - Scottish Lowlands, Northern England & Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland and South West Scotland, which makes a lot more sense than their top level estimates, which are and as useful as trying to differentiate Pennsylvania from Ohio imo!!!
I manage multiple kits, everyones regions and percentages changed. Definitely more accurate. My niece is now showing Greece/Aegean Islands. My kids German/English split is more accurate. I think my parental split is off. Ancestry splits my Baltic between both parents, it should just be my dad. It's correct on my sister's results. My niece has English/NW Europe and they attribute part of that to my sister, but we doesn't have any English in our ethnicity results. That being said overall the split is fairly accurate. Another thing I noticed, Ancesty added Bengal to my husband's ethnicity. He had at least 5 generations born in West Bengal, but I haven't found an Indian ancestor yet (I still looking for 6xggp). I'm wondering if a lot of people from that region have European mix and that may be what Ancestry is picking up, if that makes sense. All in all, I'm happy with the updates Ancestry has made. Everything is lining up with the papertrails.
Cool feature for sure. In my family, my father was born out of wedlock (father unknown). While no one would ever want this to be their story, what would we expect to be the results if the father of my dad was, because of incest, actually his own grandfather? Would we be able to tell?
Find a cousin who is in the same male lineage as your paternal grandfather. Then compare his y chromosome to your father's. If there is a match - incest. if not you may rule that out. If what you suspect is true, your maternal great grandfather is also your paternal grandfather
@@Firearcher4 thanks. If I understand correctly the Y chromosome is passed along to successive generations of male offspring, but *not* female offspring correct? So I need to find a male cousin, correct? My Dad's grandfather only had 2 sons (plus six daughters). One of the sons died at the age of 10. So I would need to locate male descendents from the surviving son. Is that correct?
@@kevynnedallaire1815 Yes you are correct. Males only. Yes you would need to find descendants in the direct male line from the surviving son OR go back a generation and find one from the brothers of the great great grandfather. If no luck there go back another generation to the ggg grandfather until you locate somebody who fits the profile then tell them why you have contacted them and that you require a blood sample for typing which is done in the blood banks of hospitals. No easy task but possible. I have been a genealogist since the 1970's so I trust my own research and instincts with over 40 + years in this field. I know the names of all 128 of my great great great great grandparents and the generation prior to that know about 240 of the 256. Most branches I can get to about 1600 using documentary evidence. The original records are riddled with mistakes most of which deal with spellings. But we also see wrong dates on tombstones, in family bibles, or wrong birth dates cited on death records etc. . Census records are full of errors however the more recent years have a far better accuracy rate. The 1800's census are roughly 70% accurate. A key element of being a genealogist is to trust nothing completely. Mistakes are everywhere. I have little faith in organizations which peddle research for $$$$ including Ancestry. Ancestry is great but I spot errors in their information too as they mass grab it from online sources which are often unsourced or not properly vetted. Their objective is to garner as much information as possible to sell. Quantity over Quality research. One record claimed a certain man who I will not name immigrated to Canada in 1757 and I know that factoid was lifted from a census reporting. and had nothing to do with immigration at all. In other words a total lie or misunderstanding of what the record actually said. No person by that name immigrated in 1757 to the place the record said he did. To hire genealogists on a global scale would be a massive cost for anyone. Ancestry can be very helpful but to blindly follow accept everything you find is a rookie mistake. Obtaining a blood sample and having some organization provide you a break down of your ethnicity is a vast oversimplification of the issue. You can have a person with a certain genetic marker but there is no way to know for sure where that person actually lived. Saying a remote ancestor some 3,000 years ago lived in Portugal vs France or Spain is ridiculous. Besides, that far back we all descend from the same stock of people anyway. Calculate how many ancestors you have in the 33nd generation. Taking 30 years per generation times 33 generations puts us back 990 years, lets lets say roughly the year 1032. In the 33rd generation each of us has 4.2 billion ancestors in that generation, greater than the entire world population of the time. So we all descend from the same stock of people more or less. Saying that YOU are Spanish and I Russian or something is a gross over simplification of the issue. Companies who do this are peddling nonsense.
@@Firearcher4 thanks. I *absolutely* agree. I learned early on that if I rely on other people's inputs that I can go down an incorrect path in my research. So now I treat that type of information as *a lead* only, the same way a crime investigator would. I am using only primary source documents to establish anything definitively. Fortunately for me, I have French Canadian ancestry on my father's side and one of my key research sites is called Genealogy Quebec. As you have stated, there are errors, however one of its strengths is that all of the original church registries (Catholic Church) have been photographed and categorized in a file tree. So I have been able to find the actual records of my ancestors. In other cases, my brother has communicated directly with organizations such as the maternity home where my father was born. And I have myself have received certified copies of records from parishes not included in the Genealogy Quebec website. Bottom line is that I understand your cautions about genealogy websites in general and I am careful. As I said, I want primary documents not second hand stuff from others claims. One question I do have for you, if you don't mind. You mentioned that doing comparative DNA analysis, in this case Y chromosome analysis, requires blood testing. I know some of the genealogy websites do DNA testing, and some (I cannot remember which one), are able to separate paternal sides from maternal sides. I assume that would be via Y chromosome. Do you know if those DNA tests (cheek swab) would be as accurate as the blood draw that you mentioned? I have tentatively located 2 male relatives who would be my proper second cousins. If I am able to contact them and get them to agree to send off a sample for DNA testing via the selected genealogy website, would the results be accurate enough to answer my question (whether my father was a child from incest)? I not confident that I can get a total stranger (my second cousin) to even offer up a swab let alone a blood sample for DNA testing. I would like to know ahead of time if a swab will be sufficient. Wendel, thank you so much for your replies. They have been very informative in giving me a possible investigative route.
My mom and dad's sides are about equal all the way except for one had Irish and the other has Norway, but it's a small amount so I can't figure out who is who.
This new tool says I get 7% from Parent 1 and 4% from parent 2. It also says all 5% of my Sweden and Denmark from parent 2. The only problem is with the new ethnicity update my father no longer shows as having any Germanic Europe anymore. Both of my parents took the tests and both are full parents. Knowing that only my father has Ireland and only my mother has Finland I assumed parent 1 is my father and parent 2 is my mother. This has me really confused!
My parents have very similar ancestry, so I can’t really see what comes from what parent, my mother tested her dna and since this update she had 1% Baltic en 1% basque which is very surprising as non of the paper work leads there and I can go back far as a Dutch person. There is Germany Zweden Norway and what’s now Belgium than the southern Netherlands al my migrant ancestors migrated to the Netherlands more than 200 years ago.
Sounds great - i wish they could also scan DNA matches trees and group common names from common places to save me clicking on every individual to look which takes forever. I also wish ancestry offered a chromosome map
Alistair you can search for surnames for the DNA match list with the search tool. Most people miss this little tool. You can search all the trees in the list that have that surname that you searched for.
Can't wait for the upgrade because there is no way I could figure out who is parent one and two. It will be hard to figure out Afrucan Americans because most of the time, they both have the same dna results and we do not know specifically where they come from. I tried to figure it out, but alas, it only gave me a headache. 😫
As members/cousins update their trees, I can't help but wonder how often this 'side by side' feature will be updated also? Will it be annually like they currently do with ethnicity results? Probably half my matches have no trees or trees that are privatized due to "living" members. I wonder if this new feature will motivate them to explore their trees further? I really think if someone is creating an account to register their DNA test kit, they would have better luck with their "30-day free" program if ancestry activated the 30 free day program upon the day the DNA test results are first available. Most adoptees I have talked with were upset about the free days program expiring before they could even start researching their unknown family trees. There are so many people out there that are clueless about their family ancestry.
Hi there, i absolutely love this video and will watch more of your videos. I am trying to find my maternal grandfather. We only have very basic information on him and don't even know if this is accurate so i am trying to find him and his family through dna. It is fantrastic that we can now seperate each parent however do you know how i can then look at a particular area being south italy for my maternal side. Also i then want to send a message to all of these relatives to ask if anyone is related to my grandfather. This way i may be able to find him for my mother before she leaves us. Thank you for any help or suggestions you may have here.
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Can you please resend original video. I can’t seem to locate it. My parents first cousins but was able to work out who was who. However, they have a first cousin, also deceased, but his daughter has Ancestry, and I thought I could compare mum and dad from her dads. Thanks.
I'm descendent from Shem
This is in its infancy and I am looking forward to see where this goes. No one can say by taking a Ancestry DNA test your not getting your money worth only because it is a work in progress you didn't just spit and that spit discarded it is constantly being updated.
If you're saying Ancestry is infantile you'd have a point, and they don't care enough to begin to grow up.
The science is not in its infancy. Only the people applying it.
Ancestry originally gave me 3% Wales, then years later took it completely away, now, they gave me 10% Wales.
I'm really looking forward to what might be coming. I've been saying ever since I started with genetic genealogy that Ancestry's tools are frustratingly lacking given all the data that they have. We shouldn't have to manually group matches -- Ancestry already has the data necessary to do it programmatically.
Unfortunately it isn’t that simple because individuals can match on more than one line and from both parents. To be accurate it needs to be verified with research as well.
@@carokat1111 This is true. And, methods like the Leeds Method for grouping DNA cousins do tend to break down when dealing with endogamy, but with the same caveats in mind regarding how they're doing SideView some rudimentary grouping automation would be a huge benefit to users.
If you're satisfied with that, fine, perhaps you don't want very detailed knowledge about your father; but you'll get a much clearer idea who your father was ethnically by identifying him and researching his tree.
This is fascinating for me. My parents have both passed away and I never got their DNA which I know they both would’ve been fascinated by. My mom was an amateur genealogist and got me started in this when I was a child in the 1970’s. It’s amazing knowing my mother’s side is almost 100% German immigrants in late 19th century. But it shows as England and Northwestern Europe more than Germanic. I love these videos and seeing all the ways the DNA information is updated.
Wow, this is incredible! I took the Ancestry test in part to try to find my biological father. Now I have half of his ethnic makeup in a pie chart, this is amazing! He was Greek! That's where the Portuguese comes from as well and some French. Thank you so much for making this video I never would have known this was a thing!
No. She said precisely it’s not your parents estimate. It’s an estimate of what you randomly received from each parent proportionally.
@@andre1987eph I'm pretty sure they said that it was half of his ethnic makeup.
Thank you, Connie!
APB: As Connie has pointed out, parent 1 is NOT necessarily mother: I visited my son last week and we found this feature while playing with Ancestry. For both of us, parent 1 was father's side. It was fun seeing how much of each of my groups he got from me, and where he got none!
My only surprise: I got some Welsh from both sides- & he inherited the entire Welsh package .
It's a treat to get something like this, which is Not based on matches ' trees! (Some of my ThruLines make me groan.)
I'm actually excited to see the follow-up!
Thanks again!
Yep. My pleasure.
Parent 1 is my Dad as well 😊
My parent 1 also was my Dad
I also found it by accident a few days ago. Parent 2 is my dad and always wondered on which side I had inherited Norweigan DNA from. Now I know. So exciting.
If you have siblings tested, Parent 1 may be mother for one sibling or Parent 2 could be mother. It’s not going to be consistent between siblings.
This immediately solved a mystery for me. My highest ethnicity percentage was Germanic Europe which since has gone right down to 5%. I could not place it but thought it was obviously from my dad as his family come from several different places in the world whereas my mum’s side is from the United Kingdom. My dad convinced me it was not from his side. which was great for me as I thought it might help with a brick wall on my mum’s side. This update has confirmed that it is from my dad’s side. It is helpful because now I know it will not help with the brick wall.
This has helped so much, looking for biological mother. BAM!!!!, Now it helps looking for cousins only with her ethnicity, WOW!!! This is the best clue yet.
Fantastic
Can’t wait to see what is coming next from Ancestry. Love this new feature
Me too Kathleen. Thanks for your continued support of the channel.
This is a great feature, I knew my Dads parents had English, Irish, Welsh & Scottish Ancestry, via the census, (Showed on the original DNA test taken).
My Mums, I had just English on the Census. The bit of German which showed up on my DNA, I wasn't sure whether it was my Mums or Dads side...well, it was on my Mums side. Just English with the little smidge of German.
Thanks for sharing this info.😊
This is interesting. I checked my results and they've been updated to the point that they better match my paper trail - even down to the region of some small European countries. Parent 1 was dad and it was spot-on. Still can't quite match up some of my mom's ethnicity estimates with the paper trail though. Can't wait to see where this goes!
I manage numerous accounts and Parent #1 seems to be maternal in my accounts. Is this what you are finding as well? So exciting!!
That's how mine is set up.
I don't know that is true, but perhaps. I'll keep an eye out.
It is for mine as well.
Thank you for explaining the difference between your parents ethnicity, and the ethnicity you inherit from your parents. That 50% difference is important
My 82 year old sister-in-law’s parents were so similar in their ethnicities that we haven’t figured out which is parent 1 and parent 2. Mine on the other hand though… my mother was half Alaska native so I can see immediately which is which.
I to was able to easily split the parents line. My dad is the only one with the Greek and my mom only one with the African but they are small amounts. Other then them differences, I wouldn't be able to identify who was who. Lol.
Wow this is an amazing new tool. Thank you so much for going over it Connie! Just saw a new ethnicity Sweden/Denmark 4% for me from my dad's side. Checked his results and sure enough 8% for him from his mother. The updated DNA communities also might have broken down a brick wall for me. Dad's father's side were Romanian Jews that spoke German, never knew from where though originally (pre 1800s). Now it has DNA shared with Bohemian Jewish communities as well as the Moldovan Jewish Communities. Lots of new leads to research now. I can't wait to see just how much further Ancestry can take this in the future.
Hi Connie - thank you for another very informative video. My Ancestry ethnicity estimate has improved dramatically with this update, but there are still a few bugs in the system. For example, my mother. Parent 2 is clearly my father, which means Parent 1 has to be my mother.
My mother's mother was the daughter of Irish immigrants, and her father was the son of an Englishman and a French woman. My mother is deceased, but I have verified her parentage through the DNA matches of myself and my siblings. So my mother was half Irish, 25% English and 25% French. But Ancestry is telling me that the DNA I inherited from my mom is 100% Irish and Scottish. Even with random DNA inheritance, I'm pretty sure that's impossible. I must have gotten some of her English and French DNA, or else I wouldn't be a DNA match to so many people on her father's side of the family.
And Ancestry is still giving me and my siblings way too much Scottish ethnicity overall. So I'm happy for the improvement, but the high accuracy rate they are touting doesn't apply to me.
Oh, the possibilities.....I had no idea!! I was tested many years ago, but neither of my parents! I don't spend enough time studying all of my DNA matches. Until your earlier video on how to understand those who have no tree or unlinked trees, I really didn't do much at all with the results! Thanks for all of your information!!!
You are so welcome!
Love this feature. I know we only inherit 50% from each parent so I understand my parents' ethnicity inheritance showing countries that are not listed on mine (Greece & Albania, Eastern Europe & Russia). But I was surprised to see some countries on mine that didn't appear on either parent's results (Northern Italy, Norway, Baltics). Yet they are attributed to the parent I expected to inherit them from. I know it's said to be 95% accurate so I guess that's where they fall but I was still surprised not to see them listed on their breakdown.
Hello Connie. Looking through the comments that you received, I'd say that many people don't have a clear understanding of how DNA is inherited (especially the seemingly random distributions) and the way that percentages work. I wish I had a better grip on it myself, it seems that a video explaining this would be helpful. Thank you for your work. I enjoy your videos!
Thanks for your comment. I have a playlist of 38 videos on DNA and growing. It is here for anyone to see. th-cam.com/play/PLiMXWjHlj5RQ_iInPLinVtIxjyzn3yE4o.html
Actually, this is something that 23andme and FamilyTree made available a while back, but without much fanfare. They provide a breakout of each chromosome by parental side (23andme calls it DNA Painting and FamilyTree calls it Chromosome Painter). It’s pretty much the same thing as what Ancestry has done, but they’re packaging it differently.
Right on. And I'll add that I find both those companies with their latest updates more accurate than AncestryDNA. 👍
I had mine done in 2013 by 23 and Me and for that feature to work, you still need at least one parent to test. She is saying here you don't need either parent.
And no testing company is going to be accurate at all when it comes to British/Irish and French/German because it remains illegal in Germany to do testing and as a proxy, all the companies have used Utah White (Mormons) and that is assumed because there were so many German people then, the Mormons were mostly also, like the Amish. They would have done better testing the Amish because at least they can point out their ancestry on a map.
When Germany allows it, then we would see better results.
23&me doesn’t have the Family Tree resources of AncestryDNA. I have 43k cousin matches on AncestryDNA.
I’ve been noticing recently that some (not a lot) of my new DNA matches are pre-labeled as “Father’s side” before I’ve even viewed them. I haven’t seen any pre-labeled as “Mother’s side” yet, but my distant cousins on my dad’s side definitely make up the majority of my matches because his mother’s side goes back to the Mayflower. It also seems people with the oldest American histories (as opposed to those with more recent immigrant families) are the most motivated to learn their DNA ethnicity. My other 3 family lines are fairly recent immigrants and I find more cousin matches on MyHeritage, which has a higher European user base.
Have been doing family history for years. I'm new to this; just got my DNA results a day ago! Found it fairly easy to follow on the app. Didn't realize this was such a new feature - really like it! Have a similar situation in being able to tell what was from which parent. Parent 2 was my dad, also. Glad to have found this.
Forgive me if I have said this before. My mother was 20% Irish on Ancestry Autosomal testing. This led to me testing myself on 23 & ME as my father carried a gene variant for an iron overload (haemochromatosis) which is really common in Ireland. 1 in 2 people in Dublin carry this variant, also known as the Celtic Curse when homozygotic (2 copies.) This caused me to test myself on 23 and Me thus delaying testing Dad's Y lineage on Family Tree DNA. Now I find that Mum is only 1% Irish!! Whilst I understand ethnicity is ongoing research: I felt the 19% difference was a bit much!
I checked out my ethnicity estimates and knowing what I know about each side, they were spot on.
When my DNA results came in a few months ago and the ethnicity mentioned Jewish, I thought, who the heck did I inherit THAT from? Well, given that all my the Jewish % is from the same parent as the Irish and I know for a fact the Irish comes from my mothers side, I now know that I inherited the Jewish bit from her too. Thank you Connie (and Ancestry of course).
My pleasure.
I WISHED My heritage has this - My mother Tested with Ancestry & I was going to But my son bought me a Kit from them - It fun to use this tool on her DNA & love all the Tips - keep up the great work
That is awesome! Thanks.
Can't wait for the next installments Ancestry is releasing. This will help especially for people with ancestry from Western New York in the 1780, 1800 era where there are fewer records. I've been searching for James Riley Arnolds family for 44 years with a thick brick wall. Maybe after all this time I will finally get some answers.
Connie, Thanks for explaining this new Ancestry feature.
Luckily I had my dad's DNA done and know he is Parent 2. Thank you Connie for all you teach us!
My parents, my sister and I have all taken the AncestryDNA. Based on the results, Parent 1 is father and parent 2 is mother
It's 50/50 per experiments. For some Parent 1 is the maternal side.
I was very excited to find out about this cool feature. My mom was born in Honduras and my Dad in Panama 🇵🇦 so it’s kind of tricky to me to know who is which.
Understood
This tool is awesome. It actually verified my current research. My DNA has Africian in it. My maternal 5th GGF is a pre civil war freed slave. This knowledge allowed me to say Parent 1 was my dad and parent 2 was mom cause of where the African appeared.
The parental DNA profile separation was a bit hard to find (an Ancestry agent helped me) and it’s a great tool for better understanding where our ancestors came from on each side. For me - I have surprise ancestors on my dad’s side that I always assumed was from my mother’s side. Now I have a new mystery to solve.
Where do I find it? Is it because I’m using cell phone and not full site ?
It's now on mobile. Wasn't at first.
Unfortunately I have doubts whether this 'feature' works, at least in the case of the sample I manage. Both parents show Baltics at more or less the same percentage (19% vs 22%) the problem is that only the father came from Baltics region. All his parents, grandparents, great grandparents and 2xgreat grandparents were also born in the same region (vicinity of Vilnus), so this region should be spot on. According to Ancestry second parent has similar Baltics ancestry - this is highly unlikely, as I am fortunate enough to have her complete ancestry up to 4xgreat grandparents - not even a hint of Baltics (all of them lived at least 600km west from Baltics region). I guess that Ancestry barely distinguishes Baltics from Eastern Europe. I will have stronger proof when I do a DNA check on the mother.
Thank you Connie, Good to see how this works and as I have, seemingly, 100% Irish ancestry (all the other little ethnicities are gone) and I have two perfect yellow halves making up one entirely yellow whole. I cannot wait for the stuff that is coming down the road as it has to be more use to me than this. I do think that it will be great for those that have questions about their parentage though and especially useful for those who have immigrants in their ancestry.
Isn't it fun! Yes, more coming our way.
Thank you Connie..just loved this! I did exactly what you showed and I also was able to separate my parents even though 2 different nationalities..Father-Irish..Mother iItalian..this was awesome!
Fantastic
I was lucky, and got both of my parents (both in their 80's) to get the test this year. Which has made cousin matching "easier". Not clear cut, but definitely easier. I'll have to watch this again later. Pressed for time today.
Very cool stuff, Connie! I wasn't aware of the new estimates or features, so I'm glad I watched this video. I also subscribed to your Channel! Keep the great content coming.
Thanks Connie for this video. I had to go in and check out the 20+ DNA tests I manage. It sure is fun trying to tease out which parent is which, some easy some not so easy. Easiest is my SO whose grandmother is Samoan, others not so much. Looking forward to new tools to be released!
Ancestry figured out which side was my father's side and which side was my mother's side.
I so appreciate you mentioning the challenge faced by endogamous populations, which applies to my situation. I, too, hope that will change in the future.
I think it will be a while before we can tease out the family lines with genetics in endogamous trees.
@@GenealogyTV Last week I found out that my grandfather's 1st cousin once removed on one side of his family became his uncle on the other side of his family by marrying 2 of his fathers sisters. That plays funny things with the cM numbers on the cousin matches. Makes them calculate as closer estimates than they really are.
My brother married a 5-8th cousin on our maternal side, and didn't know it, and so did a sister who married a 4-6th cousin on our paternal side.
The problem is that you cannot take this kind of features too seriously. In our country, the majority of users have ethnicities that do not appear in their paper genealogy in last 10-13 generations (cca 400 years) at all. Also, from the principle of autosomal DNA testing, it is not possible to distinguish paternal and maternal chromosomes, so even if Ancestry claims they can do it, it will not be based on reality but on statistics only and have a high error rate. They should rather provide more meaningful features, such as a chromosome browser, shared matches triangulation etc. instead of these "maybe-it-works" features.
I have recently been intrigued by the concept of how many generations does it take to wipe out evidence of part of my DNA history. If I have an ancestor from Wales (as example) and he comes to America and does not marry a woman from Wales their kids are only 50% DNA from Wales. If all of their descendants do not marry someone from Wales, it takes 9 generations for that Wales DNA to be practically 0%. Heck, when I go back 9 generations on my tree, most of the time I am not to the immigrant ancestor yet. How much of my DNA history has been lost...? I'll never know.
Thank you Connie this was very helpful!! 🧬Can't wait for the more to come from Ancestry 🧬Have a great weekend!
You Too! Thanks
Wow...this feature is terrific. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
Glad it was helpful!
This is great news! I have no idea who my biological father is and this will help me get started. Thanks
I just tried this out. So interesting. I had no idea there was a tiny amount of Scottish on my dad's side assuming he was parent #2.
Now how cool is that? Thank you so much. I would have never thought to go back and check that from time to time. Now I gotta figure out if mom or dad is parent #1 and #2. Thanks again.
Have fun!
My mother has documented German ancestry but didn't show German ethnicity until this last update. My twin sister and I don't show any Germanic ethnicity, however, my older brother and sister do. All my ancestors arrived in the US before 1753 to VA and MD, migrating through NC & SC to TN & KY by the early 1800s, and married into families with the same background and patterns. This Germanic info can now determine her parent's matches, Her parents were cousins, and this Germanic line is the only difference between their ethnic lineage. My mother is related to herself 9 times. My father is related to himself 4 times, and there is no way to split ethnicity between his parents.
Without sibling DNA tests, separating Parent 1 from Parent 2 would be impossible.
Seeing as how my parents share a common ancestor in 1700's Massachusetts and how three quarters of my family tree is from Metro Boston/RI since their settlement, I am bot sure how helpful this will be to people like me. My mother's grandparents share common ancestors from the founding of RI. Thank goodness for the European upheaval 200 years later in 1848 to send by Welsh and Bavarian ancestors over. And they are in the other quarter of my tree. AND my DH and I just found out we share common Mayflower ancestors. Can't get anymore white and nerdy than that!
Thank you! I can’t wait till they do more. I can’t really tell which parent is which for me. So I’m exacted to see who’s who.
You are so welcome!
So I had to log in to Ancestry to have a peek and I was not expecting that update. Lucky me I know one side of the fam is Maori and the other Chinese so was able to know instantly what parent was on which side. What I wasn't expecting was that they actually branched out on the Asian regions to find out my dad was not only Chinese but also had Dai in him, of course, I have no idea about any of his Asian heritage as the family westernized their name to stop the racial discrimination they got after coming here. So to see the expansion looking forward to where they go. I'm gunna show my dad the update when I'm over at his next.
I went on ancestry last night after not being on there for a few weeks and they changed things a bit. Now you have to be a paid member to see what you got from your parents it looks like.
Oh this should be fun I have cousins on my mom side who married my cousins on my dad side thier future DNA should be interesting..
I noticed this feature a few days ago but it doesn't specifically tell you which parent you get your DNA you have too figure it out pretty cool though.
You always do such a great job explaining these things. Thank you!
Happy to help!
I have been looking forward you and Jarrett's opinion on the new tool! (can't wait to see what's to come)
I was also able to know which side was my maternal and paternal (due to specific countries), now I for sure (as much as currently possible), know that my Puerto Rican ancestry comes from my mom, I at the beginning had my doubts but this seems to be confirming it, now to find out how lol
Thank you so much for the video, I always appreciate your input and knowledge ♥
Thanks
Cool! I stopped this video and ran to ancestry lol. My parents and maternal grandmother have all been tested and i run their accounts. It’s pretty cool to see the separation. My dad and I have 1% indigenous DNA and it’s going to be cool to look at his DNA inheritance to see which parent he got it from since they are both deceased! On my maternal side, my grandmother and i have 1% DNA from Spain and i know 1% isn’t a lot. We are African American and to my knowledge, Spain and Greece aren’t common DNA segments we normally have? Thanks for the info! Very cool
I like how this video looks like it was produced in 1992.
I discovered this yezterday and was definitely trying to figure out the parent 1 parent 2. Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the splainer- so cool is an understatement!
It really is!
Thank you Connie, very informative and helpful as ever. Keep up the great work
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Connie
Someone needs to tell me how my mother has 0% England & Northwestern Europe/my father has 4% England & Northwestern Europe, but I have 20% England & Northwestern Europe. Both my parents were tested, the breakdown they did for parents 1 & 2 are wrong. My sister was also tested, and her parental breakdown also doesn't match our parents. They need to do a lot of work on this new feature.
Yes... there are a few crazy results out there.
Very Helpful & Interesting. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Where I see this going...Users add parent labels, dna matches. Ancestry can then analyze more confirmed family groups. For example, my husband & I and all our kids tested, my sister, niece, cousins, etc.
I am very excited to see what else Ancestry has in store for us! I hope one of the surprises is a chromosome browser, or at least access to segment data. :)
Thanks for another great video. Have a blessed day.
Yeah.. a chromosome browser might be fun, but don't hold your breath. I don't think they have plans right now.
@@GenealogyTV I don't think so, either, but one can hope. I never hold my breath for anything from any of these companies. They're going to do what they're going to do, regardless of what their customers ask for.
Still believe ancestry somehow someway gets it wrong. Unsure wether it's because they only test autosomal DNA or what but like 23andme says I'm 54.1% German and ancestry only 15%. Ancestry says my Scandinavian dna is like 26% and 23andme says my Scandinavian dna is only 1.2%. I do believe the 23andme is more accurate. We want answers for the accuracy of results and we just aren't getting them basically. I think thats a problem.
Thank you Connie You Totally Rock!!!
I manage my Mom's account and I took a DNA test and my side view from my Mom's side doesn't match with her DNA. I have ethnicity that the side views say I got from my Mom but she doesn't even have that DNA
Great video, I had no idea this was in there. As suspected, my father’s contribution is all Irish, my mothers is almost all Irish, but my touch of scotch and welsh is all from her.
Glad you enjoyed it
This sounds good.
I'm into historical DNA and have uploaded to a site that links DNA archaeological sites.
Hopefully they will both link up. I've got DNA that links to Erik the Reds farmstead Bratthalid in Greenland and St Brice's Day Massacre sites in Oxford and Weybridge.
I love your videos and your demeanour first off! However, when it comes to this new Ancestry feature I have my doubts and it sounds to me like another shiny object on their site. I say that because for a while now when we get our dna matches, Ancestry asks us if they are on our Paternal side or on our Maternal side and it sounds to me as if they compiled that information that WE provided to divide what ethnicity belong to which side once they gather the information. So technically, this new 'feature' is simply information we have been providing Ancestry.
I manage my and my mom's DNA, but I ran into an issue.
They claim 95% accuracy, but I have 2 problems. I inherited 4% Swedish from my mom, but her DNA shows no Swedish. I can't inherit something she doesn't have. She should show Swedish? The other problem I have is some of her ancestors were German (Sultemeier's), so she must not have inherited German from that random portion or my genealogy is wrong,. It's possible my German's show up under NW Europe.
Trouble is, it says Parent 1 and Parent 2. My Dad had tested so I can compare against his. However he has no Jewish so assume parent 2 is my Mum. However My "Mum" has no Scottish and I know we have Scottish ancestry not that far back.
I learned thru my DNA that my Dad is NOT my biological father. My Mom's 99 and swears the DNA is wrong. I have no idea how to find out who my real father is. 😥
I think Ancestry is pretty accurate. My bio dad denied me. I'm the youngest of 3..said only my older sibs were his. I was raised by my maternal Aunt.
My brother did his DNA & we are FULL siblings 😊 My Aunt always felt that my older sister was the one not his..she looks real different from maternal & paternal side 🤷🏽♀️ She has not done her DNA. I wish my dad was alive so I can rub it in his face 🤪
I also have cousins from my maternal side who have popped up on my DNA. They live in a different state & I didn't even know that they did their DNA. We all have the same grandfather who was born in 1866 in Mississippi. He was named after President Lincoln..so you can figure out the connection..slavery. My grandfather was born the year after slavery ended in the south.
This is so exciting.
I have both parents AND mine...I'm going to have the daughter tested as my husband has had his as well...this is getting fun. Thanks for the explanations.
If you have your husband tested and you have tested, there is no need to have your daughter tested. Her DNA comes half from you and half from your husband... unless you just want to see how much she inherited from each of you.
@@GenealogyTV While what you are saying is absolutely true the test of a son or daugther does provides some additional matches that do not show up for any parent. I think it has to do with how they are matching the different strains. So this testing is not completely useless to do as well.
My DNA says that I'm 14% Scottish. Parent 1 (my deceased mother) didn't give me any DNA from Scotland. My father, Parent 2, is alive and has taken the test. He's 8% Scottish. So if I received none from my mom, and my dad is only 8%, where did the other 6% come from? And I have close relatives linked to me from both sides, so my parents are my parents.
The ethnicity reports are clearly not precise. It's a shame that Ancestry invests so much time on them.
DNA ethnicity split no use to me, my research states I am English, both sides have other ethnicities so cannot tell them apart.
Had my late mother tested but does not help.
I don’t know which parent is which. My aunt and cousins breakdown changed completely and where my aunt and I matched in %s, now her countries have changed and my cousins too. So I don’t come close to other side now. My son’s father has a lot of Scottish but all the Scottish is mine. So because he has some different ethnicity on his father’s side, he can tell his parents apart. For me it’s no help.
Would be great if both parent's actually tested - they would apply it to the SideView - which it does not do yet. Matches for me are already labeled Mother/Father's side because of their tests. Hoping for that upgrade in the future.
Agreed
Great video and I agree this is a great feature, however in my case it's a little confusing. A few years ago we tested my grandfather, who is now 102, to hopefully unlock living relatives and to back further to identify common ancestors. He is from Ulster and so when his results came back we were interested, but really weren't doing the test for ethnicity reasons but to help build our family tree, which we'd already done quite extensively. His initial results came back 60% Irish, 40% Scottish, and I thought even though he's Irish and all the ancestors of his back at least 3 generations were from Ireland knowing the history of the region this was plausible.
Getting this new feature said one parent was fully Irish and the other was 46% (of 50) Scottish. This isn't a criticism of this feature but I wish Ancestry wouldn't label it like this because it's really Irish/Scottish in my mind. I will be interested in knowing which parent is which because although he does have DNA matches from Scotland, especially ones we'd not linked up yet, they all may have been distant relatives who moved from Ireland to Scotland (we already have concrete evidence of this happening quite a bit to work in the Glasgow shipyards).
I am also aware of the link between south west Scotland and Ulster because of the plantations and previously I had thought that Ancestry had a region (or community) that encompassed these two areas, but now they label it was Ireland (specifically a part of Northern Ireland) and Scotland. I don't know if this is just Ancestry not defining their regions correctly or whether there is something I'm missing or have gotten wrong.
Thanks for explaining that the ethnicity of the parents from my grandfather's DNA results won't be the exact ethnicity of his parents (it depends on which parts of their DNA they passed on), but in this case near 100% just be fairly decisive. The other thing that annoys me a little is that often the error ranges can be quite big but unless you dig and just take the numbers at face value you can't effectively not realise this. So in summary I love the feature and can't wait for more, however it has thrown up more questions than answers for me!!!
You mentioned you were expecting DNA to match your Family citizenship back three generations.
Remember DNA testing is revealing heritage back several Hundreds of years.
We don’t usually need DNA back to our grandparents as most people know where they lived.
But the point of DNA is to reach back in time to locate our family we didn’t know and past the record trail into the 400+ year range. There was not as much constant travel then and the ethnicity groups were more localized.
So don’t set your expectations to have Ancestry match where your grandparents happened to live, when they’re showing your much further back in time.
@@kjw79 Thanks for your comments. The DNA test was done on my grandfather a few years ago, who had just had his 100th birthday, and wasn't really done to discover ethnicity, he's from Ulster and so having a mixture of Irish, Scottish, and maybe some other British and Scandinavian DNA. It was done to try and work out where his great grandfather was from mainly via DNA matches. His mother has a very Irish surname, that of the clan that rolled the region and was from, her parents having very Irish names. His father has an Irish name albeit from the other end of Ireland, survivals County Cork, however he wasn't Catholic and his parents could very well, almost expected, introduced this Scottish DNA, although we have no evidence of this, and neither are a Scottish name.
I completely agree with you that the DNA can be from a lot further back, but for one parent to have come from what Ancestry says is one region would mean (assuming that it can be identified as Scottish, which I'm not sure it can) the parents of that parent would have to have come from that region. Some people have asked if there could have been non parental event, which is always possible, but as far as I've found out from DNA matches from all parents and grandparents is that this isn't the case.
Lastly I only mentioned being able to go back 3 generations because this is my grandfather who is over 100 years of age (so both around 1920) so we've gone back to around 1800, going back any further is difficult because of the lack of records available from before this time. Apart from DNA matches in not sure there's much more I can do. There are some matches from Scotland, but I think as I said before these are from the more Irish side of the family and ski think we'll have registered from Ireland to Scotland for work and so aren't Scottish DNA and these aren't direct ancestors but distant cousins.
To add an update to my previous comments (reading them back so many typos, oops, but it is just about understandable) - I've found a lot of Irish ancestors that went over to Scotland, which I know was a thing, to go over to the Glasgow area to work in the shipyards for example, married Scots, had children, and carried on living over there (some of their children emigrated to the US and Australia, hence why more have done DNA tests I suspect). Because of this I don't think it is that easy for Ancestry to distinguish between Scottish DNA and Ulster DNA, maybe in another 100 years of they didn't have any of this knowledge it'd have been called American or Australian DNA, almost impossible to tell apart. Because of this (and I'm not saying there is no Scottish DNA in my grandfather's DNA, mainly because some ancestors were Presbyterian or Church of Ireland and had not very Irish names) I'm not sure that except where certain parts of DNA just aren't found distinctly in one of these regions you can call it, not until a lot more data is in.
I find it odd that Ancestry splits Ireland and Scotland distinctly down the Irish Sea, but when you go in and have a look at the communities there are two that straggle both Scotland and Ulster - Scottish Lowlands, Northern England & Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland and South West Scotland, which makes a lot more sense than their top level estimates, which are and as useful as trying to differentiate Pennsylvania from Ohio imo!!!
I wonder how my results will be like 10 years from now! It will be so cool!
I know, right?
After the most recent update, I lost my 12% German and was given more English DNA and baltics DNA.
Me too. Mine was a generics northwestern Europe!
I am able to label which parent is Paternal and which is Maternal now.
I manage multiple kits, everyones regions and percentages changed. Definitely more accurate. My niece is now showing Greece/Aegean Islands. My kids German/English split is more accurate. I think my parental split is off. Ancestry splits my Baltic between both parents, it should just be my dad. It's correct on my sister's results. My niece has English/NW Europe and they attribute part of that to my sister, but we doesn't have any English in our ethnicity results. That being said overall the split is fairly accurate.
Another thing I noticed, Ancesty added Bengal to my husband's ethnicity. He had at least 5 generations born in West Bengal, but I haven't found an Indian ancestor yet (I still looking for 6xggp). I'm wondering if a lot of people from that region have European mix and that may be what Ancestry is picking up, if that makes sense. All in all, I'm happy with the updates Ancestry has made. Everything is lining up with the papertrails.
Cool feature for sure. In my family, my father was born out of wedlock (father unknown). While no one would ever want this to be their story, what would we expect to be the results if the father of my dad was, because of incest, actually his own grandfather? Would we be able to tell?
That would be difficult to figure out without a very deep dive into the traditional genealogy and the DNA results.
Find a cousin who is in the same male lineage as your paternal grandfather. Then compare his y chromosome to your father's. If there is a match - incest. if not you may rule that out. If what you suspect is true, your maternal great grandfather is also your paternal grandfather
@@Firearcher4 thanks. If I understand correctly the Y chromosome is passed along to successive generations of male offspring, but *not* female offspring correct? So I need to find a male cousin, correct?
My Dad's grandfather only had 2 sons (plus six daughters). One of the sons died at the age of 10. So I would need to locate male descendents from the surviving son. Is that correct?
@@kevynnedallaire1815 Yes you are correct. Males only. Yes you would need to find descendants in the direct male line from the surviving son OR go back a generation and find one from the brothers of the great great grandfather. If no luck there go back another generation to the ggg grandfather until you locate somebody who fits the profile then tell them why you have contacted them and that you require a blood sample for typing which is done in the blood banks of hospitals. No easy task but possible. I have been a genealogist since the 1970's so I trust my own research and instincts with over 40 + years in this field. I know the names of all 128 of my great great great great grandparents and the generation prior to that know about 240 of the 256. Most branches I can get to about 1600 using documentary evidence. The original records are riddled with mistakes most of which deal with spellings. But we also see wrong dates on tombstones, in family bibles, or wrong birth dates cited on death records etc. . Census records are full of errors however the more recent years have a far better accuracy rate. The 1800's census are roughly 70% accurate. A key element of being a genealogist is to trust nothing completely. Mistakes are everywhere. I have little faith in organizations which peddle research for $$$$ including Ancestry. Ancestry is great but I spot errors in their information too as they mass grab it from online sources which are often unsourced or not properly vetted. Their objective is to garner as much information as possible to sell. Quantity over Quality research. One record claimed a certain man who I will not name immigrated to Canada in 1757 and I know that factoid was lifted from a census reporting. and had nothing to do with immigration at all. In other words a total lie or misunderstanding of what the record actually said. No person by that name immigrated in 1757 to the place the record said he did. To hire genealogists on a global scale would be a massive cost for anyone. Ancestry can be very helpful but to blindly follow accept everything you find is a rookie mistake. Obtaining a blood sample and having some organization provide you a break down of your ethnicity is a vast oversimplification of the issue. You can have a person with a certain genetic marker but there is no way to know for sure where that person actually lived. Saying a remote ancestor some 3,000 years ago lived in Portugal vs France or Spain is ridiculous. Besides, that far back we all descend from the same stock of people anyway. Calculate how many ancestors you have in the 33nd generation. Taking 30 years per generation times 33 generations puts us back 990 years, lets lets say roughly the year 1032. In the 33rd generation each of us has 4.2 billion ancestors in that generation, greater than the entire world population of the time. So we all descend from the same stock of people more or less. Saying that YOU are Spanish and I Russian or something is a gross over simplification of the issue. Companies who do this are peddling nonsense.
@@Firearcher4 thanks. I *absolutely* agree. I learned early on that if I rely on other people's inputs that I can go down an incorrect path in my research. So now I treat that type of information as *a lead* only, the same way a crime investigator would. I am using only primary source documents to establish anything definitively. Fortunately for me, I have French Canadian ancestry on my father's side and one of my key research sites is called Genealogy Quebec. As you have stated, there are errors, however one of its strengths is that all of the original church registries (Catholic Church) have been photographed and categorized in a file tree. So I have been able to find the actual records of my ancestors. In other cases, my brother has communicated directly with organizations such as the maternity home where my father was born. And I have myself have received certified copies of records from parishes not included in the Genealogy Quebec website. Bottom line is that I understand your cautions about genealogy websites in general and I am careful. As I said, I want primary documents not second hand stuff from others claims.
One question I do have for you, if you don't mind. You mentioned that doing comparative DNA analysis, in this case Y chromosome analysis, requires blood testing. I know some of the genealogy websites do DNA testing, and some (I cannot remember which one), are able to separate paternal sides from maternal sides. I assume that would be via Y chromosome. Do you know if those DNA tests (cheek swab) would be as accurate as the blood draw that you mentioned?
I have tentatively located 2 male relatives who would be my proper second cousins. If I am able to contact them and get them to agree to send off a sample for DNA testing via the selected genealogy website, would the results be accurate enough to answer my question (whether my father was a child from incest)?
I not confident that I can get a total stranger (my second cousin) to even offer up a swab let alone a blood sample for DNA testing. I would like to know ahead of time if a swab will be sufficient.
Wendel, thank you so much for your replies. They have been very informative in giving me a possible investigative route.
My mom and dad's sides are about equal all the way except for one had Irish and the other has Norway, but it's a small amount so I can't figure out who is who.
This new tool says I get 7% from Parent 1 and 4% from parent 2. It also says all 5% of my Sweden and Denmark from parent 2. The only problem is with the new ethnicity update my father no longer shows as having any Germanic Europe anymore. Both of my parents took the tests and both are full parents. Knowing that only my father has Ireland and only my mother has Finland I assumed parent 1 is my father and parent 2 is my mother. This has me really confused!
Very interesting. My parents were first cousins so that should produce similar patterns…🇦🇺
I’m results are 100% Eastern China and Southern Asia… so exciting 🤪♥️🇨🇦🌏🇺🇦🤪
My parents have very similar ancestry, so I can’t really see what comes from what parent, my mother tested her dna and since this update she had 1% Baltic en 1% basque which is very surprising as non of the paper work leads there and I can go back far as a Dutch person. There is Germany Zweden Norway and what’s now Belgium than the southern Netherlands al my migrant ancestors migrated to the Netherlands more than 200 years ago.
Sounds great - i wish they could also scan DNA matches trees and group common names from common places to save me clicking on every individual to look which takes forever. I also wish ancestry offered a chromosome map
Alistair you can search for surnames for the DNA match list with the search tool. Most people miss this little tool. You can search all the trees in the list that have that surname that you searched for.
Can't wait for the upgrade because there is no way I could figure out who is parent one and two.
It will be hard to figure out Afrucan Americans because most of the time, they both have the same dna results and we do not know specifically where they come from.
I tried to figure it out, but alas, it only gave me a headache. 😫
Ouch (the headache)... I can understand that.
Cool feature! I'm more Scottish and more English then either parent.
Yeah... I think it is just the beginning of what they can do.
As members/cousins update their trees, I can't help but wonder how often this 'side by side' feature will be updated also? Will it be annually like they currently do with ethnicity results?
Probably half my matches have no trees or trees that are privatized due to "living" members. I wonder if this new feature will motivate them to explore their trees further?
I really think if someone is creating an account to register their DNA test kit, they would have better luck with their "30-day free" program if ancestry activated the 30 free day program upon the day the DNA test results are first available. Most adoptees I have talked with were upset about the free days program expiring before they could even start researching their unknown family trees. There are so many people out there that are clueless about their family ancestry.
Interesting point Mary.
Hi there, i absolutely love this video and will watch more of your videos. I am trying to find my maternal grandfather. We only have very basic information on him and don't even know if this is accurate so i am trying to find him and his family through dna. It is fantrastic that we can now seperate each parent however do you know how i can then look at a particular area being south italy for my maternal side. Also i then want to send a message to all of these relatives to ask if anyone is related to my grandfather. This way i may be able to find him for my mother before she leaves us. Thank you for any help or suggestions you may have here.