At 42 years old I’m just getting back on the board and haven’t skated since I was 16. Finally just started landing kick flips again yesterday and dammit feels good!! What’s funny is that my brain still thinks that I can Alley over garbage cans but my body reminds me that that shit ain’t happening😂 Yet..
43 here and getting back on the board, i also haven't skated since i was 16, never did land the kick flip, im hoping to get it down this time, looking for that " dammit feels good" feeling 👍
Thanks for saying that kick flips are hard to learn, Johnny. It helps keep skaters from getting discouraged about them. I started learning kick flips four years ago and they are just starting to look good, but are an ongoing project.
Jonathan Parlane I’ve been skating for 15 years and I still have problems with kick flips. Heel flips on the other hand came to me easy. And another thing to mention is that a lot of people including myself find it easier to do kick flips fakie.
@@nameofthegame9664 you are a god I have been struggling by landing with one foot (backfoot) but I did it fakie and it worked for me. Thank you so much random commenter.
I've been skating since I was a young kid - I got my first board sometime around 1993-1995. I skated all through middle school and high school and never got good, but enjoyed it all the same. Now that I'm in my mid 30s, I still find time to get out and skate - even though I'm twice the age of the kids at the park. My kickflips have always sucked - always just rolling on the ground. I land them, but they look like crap and I've never been able to kickflip over anything save for a gap which goes lower than the starting point. I watched this video and tried the ninja flip action and, on my first try, landed my first beautiful kickflip easily. I just started laughing because it was so easy (again, after ~20+ years of skating). Thanks, Jonny, for teaching this old dog how to do old tricks better. Cheers!
Dude same. I’ve always rocketed my kickflips not thinking of how much worse it looks compared to what they’re supposed to look like. Turned 30 a couple weeks ago and was gifted a brand new complete skateboard (first one in 5 years). Decided to re learn kick flips and this video was a huge help!
Everytime i land a Kickflip, i instant want to do it cleaner. And when i think that the last one was perfect, i check out the footage and see 1000 mistakes. Like fliking to the side and not straight through the nose or jumping to much behind. I watched this tutorial over 10 times over the last two years and getting closer to this beautiful Kickflips every time. Best feeling ever... 😌 (still a super long way, but hey that is what it is all about)
good trick tip man, I agree with everything. :) *Ninja Kickflip = best Kickflip* well, now that I think about it, every flip trick is best in ninja version. ;)
I'm here getting back into skating again. After not skating for almost 9 years. My kick flips were always those fast ones that had no pop. From this video I know exactly what I need to work on! thank you Jonny.
Anthony martin here already knew how to kickflip but it helped me out so much, you inspire me I'm homeless and I go to my friends house or to the library to watch you daily I love you Mr. Giger !!!
Thank you so much for this video I've been skating off and on for about 10 years, getting more into than I have in a long time. I watched this video and then went outside and did some of the best kick flips I've ever done in my life! Karate kick FTW!
Love your videos, Johnny! Just started skating about 7 months ago, have landed a few kickflips but they get away from me alot too :) Great to get your thoughts on the trick. Stay steezy!
Hi Jonny, I was having real trouble getting my kickflips higher until yesterday. I've watched lots of youtubes on making kickflips better, but none of them mention the problem I was having: basically, I couldn't get much pop and they were really low (because I have been leaning forward on my front foot too much), although they flipped fine. The solution was moving my body weight on my back foot slightly more in the initial stance. The result was a better pop of my tail on the ground, and a higher kickflip that actually sucked up in the air. Minor tweak but it's been the thing stopping me for getting higher. Just thought I'd share this with others who are probably watching your awesome videos!
I think this will help a lot I sometimes flick my foot out without even touching the board so I think poping it like an Ollie and then putting weight on it will help! Thanks a lot Jonny! :)
he literally does like the best tutorials. Really I would pay for videos like these and he's generous enough to take the time to teach the public. Thank you again :).
Dude, thanks a lot..... I've been struggling with my kickflips a lot, just cant land the front foot....... after your last two How-to videos, I was realllllyy hoping you'd cover kickflips,... thanks a lot dude,... Love your how-to vids, they the best
Please do a how to properly and steezy varial flip. I feel varial flips are easier and more natural to me than kickflips, somehow they feel easier to pull of but i can`t get them very clean..
Another thing that helped me was changing the way I conceptualize a "kickflip". Gonz invented the kickflip, but he wasn't doing them over anything. His were very MOB style (kicking down), when people started learning to do them over things, for a while, they were being called "ollie kickflips", because you ollie first, then kickflip. If you think about the trick this way it makes all the difference.
Super helpful video thanks for making it. Never was quite happy with my Kickflip but finally landed some pretty nice ones today. Been skating 20 years and never had more fun.
It's really great to watch you explain tricks. Imo you explain it very well. Especially the last part with the back foot wich is something I never realised until now. Thanks!
I learned good kickflips and consistent about 2 months ago, now I’m getting backside flips and I’m working on tre flips, something’s I never thought I could do
Great trick tip, given with the level of humility i have come to expect from JG, take note kids...humility is where its at. Along with dilligence. This guys got them both in bucket liads which is why he is now one of the greatest skateboarders ever. Dont let that get to your head JG...like it ever would lol.
I just landed my first kickflip today I'm hyped, when I didn't know how to do'em and I only knew the 180's(just barely being able to land bs 180's) pop shove it's Ollie and front shoves and some others.. I felt like I wasn't good or couldn't be considered a skater because I didn't know any flip tricks so that thought in my head made me wanna learn at least some type of flip so bad yet I nvr focused on practicing I've been skating for a year now and I've only put in alot of time on kickflips these past two months and now I've finally got them I feel so ecstatic just to say yeah I can land a kickflip 😆😆😂
Well that is one good looking kickflip. I just bought new skateboard after 16 years of hiatus 😅 (im 32 now) and funny thing is that I could do a kickflip on a first day but I cant do really any other tricks. Now I need to start practicing my ninja moves, that just looks so good. I have been skating 3 times now in first week and my body is saying to me that I need to rest (all those unused skateboarding muscles) but my mind want to go out and skate all the time. Its unbelievable good exercise too! Thanks for your teaching vids, subbed for sure!
Liu Kang was the name you were looking for at 5:38 I believe. I think a Kickflip looks best when you catch it at the highest point and then you just wait your way down. Like: 1st half of the trick the board flips and goes up -> apex of the jump you catch it-> go back down feet on bolts already knowing you are going to land it gloriously :D
I learned heelflips first. I actually had 360 flips and hardflips on lock for years before I learned how to kickflip properly. I trained myself by learning kickflip to nose stall. That was because of Jim Greco's video rant about kickflipping MOB style and how it made it impossible to kickflip nose slide. Thanks for the great content as always!
Bro, kickflip to nose stall is actually a really good idea when it comes to correcting a mobbed flip. I’ve got a mean mobster flip… but with this information I am one step closer to a Kickflip Reformation!
@@mosk8s52 th-cam.com/video/UH9Qj0kc80A/w-d-xo.html this is your vid, 0:39 is your kickflip, you are kicking down lmao. Took you one week cos you learned wrong lmao. Seriously one of the funniest kickflips i have ever seen.
Holy fuck can I see more tut like this. Like he didn't even give a detail version and it just so perfect of a video. Making it as simple as it can be but actually gives tips and an explanation on the science behind the trick.
The trick to it is not to concentrate so much on the act of flipping the board. The trick is to act like you're doing an ollie, but drag your foot up the board and flick your toe out past the front of the board in an exaggerated motion. That's how I get those styled out looking kickflips. His kickflips look amazing. Actually making the board flip takes a lot less 'kick' than you realize. It's all about following through with your form and technique.
Hey dude, I'm still working on my kickflips, but I think what you've said about placing the back-foot on the edge of the board has helped me a lot...another thing it's about waiting more to flick, it was a good tip... now my problem is to maintainmyself on the board right afther the flip, cuz when I step on the board it goes away and I go barckward... Btw... you're awesome!!!
You are awesome I can see in your eyes and hear it in your voice you want to say how simple something is but you remember they are beginners Braille has the same look and sound , I feel like sometimes you have said something so much your about to kickflip the camera😵 y’all are awesome
This is such a great idea for a series Jonny! Interesting and helpfull tips for every skater from rookie to pro! (Well maybe not the pro's, but you get my point 😉 )
Johny Giger I am Brazilian and I follow your channel very often and other Brazilians too, you could put subtitles in Portuguese in the video iris be very cool, I'm not very good in English
ive been told i have one of the cleanest kickflips. my secret is flip a little later than you think. so its not a late flip but not instant flip after pop. its like a few split seconds delay before you kick for the flip.
So I guess my account unsubscribed to your channel for some reason, and I haven't seen your vids in a while, bro your English has gotten way better! Keep killing it!
Actually the pop shuv is technically a flip trick as it spins or "flips" horizontally. It's the first trick you learn that does something under you. I'm sure others may agree or disagree but everyone has their beliefs
best advice was when u said back foot pushes a little forward becuz when u level the board out with the front flick it straightens the board back out and you land bolts everytime ...atleast for me ...b4 i was kinda shoving it back without realizing it which makes the board land diagonal almost opposite of my shoulders
At 42 years old I’m just getting back on the board and haven’t skated since I was 16. Finally just started landing kick flips again yesterday and dammit feels good!! What’s funny is that my brain still thinks that I can Alley over garbage cans but my body reminds me that that shit ain’t happening😂
Yet..
43 here and getting back on the board, i also haven't skated since i was 16, never did land the kick flip, im hoping to get it down this time, looking for that " dammit feels good" feeling 👍
You can do it, brother!
Yet.
Im 39 and i just started back recently since im 15. I just did a 50-50 landed nicely. I did land kickflip and pop shovit too. Ahhh feels young again 😂
Im 15 and have been skating for 2 years... Cant wait to hop on the board again when i grow up, thats if i ever stop
Thanks for saying that kick flips are hard to learn, Johnny. It helps keep skaters from getting discouraged about them. I started learning kick flips four years ago and they are just starting to look good, but are an ongoing project.
Jonathan Parlane I’ve been skating for 15 years and I still have problems with kick flips. Heel flips on the other hand came to me easy. And another thing to mention is that a lot of people including myself find it easier to do kick flips fakie.
@@nameofthegame9664 you are a god I have been struggling by landing with one foot (backfoot) but I did it fakie and it worked for me.
Thank you so much random commenter.
Nameofthegame heelsflips were way harder for me to land
it took me two months
It took me about two weeks
I've been skating since I was a young kid - I got my first board sometime around 1993-1995. I skated all through middle school and high school and never got good, but enjoyed it all the same.
Now that I'm in my mid 30s, I still find time to get out and skate - even though I'm twice the age of the kids at the park.
My kickflips have always sucked - always just rolling on the ground. I land them, but they look like crap and I've never been able to kickflip over anything save for a gap which goes lower than the starting point.
I watched this video and tried the ninja flip action and, on my first try, landed my first beautiful kickflip easily. I just started laughing because it was so easy (again, after ~20+ years of skating).
Thanks, Jonny, for teaching this old dog how to do old tricks better.
Cheers!
Dude same. I’ve always rocketed my kickflips not thinking of how much worse it looks compared to what they’re supposed to look like. Turned 30 a couple weeks ago and was gifted a brand new complete skateboard (first one in 5 years). Decided to re learn kick flips and this video was a huge help!
🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
Fucking inspirational, I’m still gonna suck though
If the voice actor for gru dies Jonny could do it
Luca mack Steve Carrel u jerk
LOL
Makes sense
Jonny gruger
Julian Recio don’t be rude
I landed my first kick flip after watching this video
🥳🥳🥳🥳🤘
Hell yah I’m trying!
Congratulations 🎉
Congratulations bro🍭🥳🥳
I landed 8 today but I'm worried ima do bad tomorrow usually happens when I land tricks
Everytime i land a Kickflip, i instant want to do it cleaner. And when i think that the last one was perfect, i check out the footage and see 1000 mistakes. Like fliking to the side and not straight through the nose or jumping to much behind. I watched this tutorial over 10 times over the last two years and getting closer to this beautiful Kickflips every time. Best feeling ever... 😌 (still a super long way, but hey that is what it is all about)
cheers dude
ollie north + lateflip = compass flip?
Lol
You are the messiah!
sounds good
I second this
ollie south + lateflip = asscomp flip
The kicking down part is my biggest problem, I constantly have to remind myself to "create lift" and flick up and out
keith richardson yea until you muscle memorised
that's my problem too for like 4month its fkin anoying
good trick tip man, I agree with everything. :)
*Ninja Kickflip = best Kickflip*
well, now that I think about it, every flip trick is best in ninja version. ;)
fakie quadruple ninja kickflip? hahaha
ok, you got me, this one is rocket.😂
Ninja kickflip Or Luan Oliveira kickflip u choose whatever
Fakie ninja flips are dope!
I'm here getting back into skating again. After not skating for almost 9 years. My kick flips were always those fast ones that had no pop.
From this video I know exactly what I need to work on! thank you Jonny.
Anthony martin here already knew how to kickflip but it helped me out so much, you inspire me I'm homeless and I go to my friends house or to the library to watch you daily I love you Mr. Giger !!!
15 sec into the clip already a Trick love it, other Vlog Skateboarder should learn from you. Keep the work love it :3
10* i meant 10 second
Thank you so much for this video I've been skating off and on for about 10 years, getting more into than I have in a long time. I watched this video and then went outside and did some of the best kick flips I've ever done in my life! Karate kick FTW!
after 6 years this is the first reply and like on your comment. you have been acknowledge.
@@mercyrain4445been waiting for so long 😭 can’t believe this finally happened!
Love your videos, Johnny! Just started skating about 7 months ago, have landed a few kickflips but they get away from me alot too :) Great to get your thoughts on the trick.
Stay steezy!
adam barck 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
How to perfect big spins!
Jayden Williams that would be great
Hi Jonny,
I was having real trouble getting my kickflips higher until yesterday. I've watched lots of youtubes on making kickflips better, but none of them mention the problem I was having:
basically, I couldn't get much pop and they were really low (because I have been leaning forward on my front foot too much), although they flipped fine.
The solution was moving my body weight on my back foot slightly more in the initial stance. The result was a better pop of my tail on the ground, and a higher kickflip that actually sucked up in the air.
Minor tweak but it's been the thing stopping me for getting higher.
Just thought I'd share this with others who are probably watching your awesome videos!
This will help me a lot, nice video! Please more :)
Emilio Lingg o
I think this will help a lot I sometimes flick my foot out without even touching the board so I think poping it like an Ollie and then putting weight on it will help! Thanks a lot Jonny! :)
he literally does like the best tutorials. Really I would pay for videos like these and he's generous enough to take the time to teach the public. Thank you again :).
I'm French and I like your explain, easy to anderstand!
Understand* I'm not trying to be mean just trying to teach you because I know you are still learning English.
Ewen Moustifou haha la meme
Gavin Harner haha thank you😉
Yeah.
Ewen Moustifou Explaination *
You make it so hard not to like you, man. Great attitudes and hard work makes badass skateboarders like yourself, thanks for all the help!
jonny is legend, thnx for all you've done so far!!!!
You are a very good inspiration for young skaters. You explain, so every one can understand. Humble and nice guy.
Kickflip was my third fliptrick that I learned. Heelflip was my first, followed by varial kickflip for some reason.
your kickflips are beautiful!
Kelly Wakasa needs this 😂
Even still this day...
Dude, thanks a lot..... I've been struggling with my kickflips a lot, just cant land the front foot....... after your last two How-to videos, I was realllllyy hoping you'd cover kickflips,... thanks a lot dude,... Love your how-to vids, they the best
* likes video before watching it *
* likes before clicking it *
pizza man9000 like before touching
Sniff before eating
Please do a how to properly and steezy varial flip. I feel varial flips are easier and more natural to me than kickflips, somehow they feel easier to pull of but i can`t get them very clean..
robsmors solid and clean pop shov would be the first step to clean up your varials
No such thing as a steezy varial flip
Not true Juan theres been like 3 in history
Another thing that helped me was changing the way I conceptualize a "kickflip".
Gonz invented the kickflip, but he wasn't doing them over anything. His were very MOB style (kicking down), when people started learning to do them over things, for a while, they were being called "ollie kickflips", because you ollie first, then kickflip. If you think about the trick this way it makes all the difference.
Cheers man, you're always helpful for us lesser skilled skaters trying to improve. Much respect.
I loved the tip about the ninja kick! It's all ever learned... now I'm gonna see if that helps me land a better kick flip! Thanks, man! Awesome stuff!
Super helpful video thanks for making it. Never was quite happy with my Kickflip but finally landed some pretty nice ones today. Been skating 20 years and never had more fun.
Thanks, Jonny! This is really helpful. You've uploaded this video right on time.
It's really great to watch you explain tricks. Imo you explain it very well. Especially the last part with the back foot wich is something I never realised until now. Thanks!
wow your flips looks sooo perfect man
I've been waiting for this trick tip!!!😍
I learned good kickflips and consistent about 2 months ago, now I’m getting backside flips and I’m working on tre flips, something’s I never thought I could do
Great trick tip, given with the level of humility i have come to expect from JG, take note kids...humility is where its at. Along with dilligence. This guys got them both in bucket liads which is why he is now one of the greatest skateboarders ever. Dont let that get to your head JG...like it ever would lol.
Landed my first kick-flip today do to the help with this video i feel so complete havent felt this happy in awhile
I just landed my first kickflip today I'm hyped, when I didn't know how to do'em and I only knew the 180's(just barely being able to land bs 180's) pop shove it's Ollie and front shoves and some others.. I felt like I wasn't good or couldn't be considered a skater because I didn't know any flip tricks so that thought in my head made me wanna learn at least some type of flip so bad yet I nvr focused on practicing I've been skating for a year now and I've only put in alot of time on kickflips these past two months and now I've finally got them I feel so ecstatic just to say yeah I can land a kickflip 😆😆😂
this really helped me understand what the back foot is supposed to do, great video. thank you
These tricktip/tutorial videos are really nice keep it up!
Well that is one good looking kickflip. I just bought new skateboard after 16 years of hiatus 😅 (im 32 now) and funny thing is that I could do a kickflip on a first day but I cant do really any other tricks. Now I need to start practicing my ninja moves, that just looks so good. I have been skating 3 times now in first week and my body is saying to me that I need to rest (all those unused skateboarding muscles) but my mind want to go out and skate all the time. Its unbelievable good exercise too! Thanks for your teaching vids, subbed for sure!
Liu Kang was the name you were looking for at 5:38 I believe. I think a Kickflip looks best when you catch it at the highest point and then you just wait your way down. Like: 1st half of the trick the board flips and goes up -> apex of the jump you catch it-> go back down feet on bolts already knowing you are going to land it gloriously :D
I learned heelflips first. I actually had 360 flips and hardflips on lock for years before I learned how to kickflip properly. I trained myself by learning kickflip to nose stall. That was because of Jim Greco's video rant about kickflipping MOB style and how it made it impossible to kickflip nose slide. Thanks for the great content as always!
Bro, kickflip to nose stall is actually a really good idea when it comes to correcting a mobbed flip. I’ve got a mean mobster flip… but with this information I am one step closer to a Kickflip Reformation!
took me 9 months to kick flip and its still my favorite trick cx
Arturo Dominguez took me 3 and took me 9 months to heel
wtf it took me 1 week i am not even joking i am dead serious it only took me 1 week like it is very very easy
Took me 3 years and I’m still learning
skater boi i didnt find any in your vids. Must still be working on them.
@@mosk8s52 th-cam.com/video/UH9Qj0kc80A/w-d-xo.html this is your vid, 0:39 is your kickflip, you are kicking down lmao. Took you one week cos you learned wrong lmao. Seriously one of the funniest kickflips i have ever seen.
Holy fuck can I see more tut like this. Like he didn't even give a detail version and it just so perfect of a video. Making it as simple as it can be but actually gives tips and an explanation on the science behind the trick.
greetings from mexico. you got the best videos on youtube
Complex trip tips like this are way better to know when learning i watched one complex video and figured out how to ollie in like two hours
Just snapped my board practicing kickflips today, same thing for the one before that. Thanks for this Jonny.
I landed my first kickflips and they were super rocket and I wasn’t extending my leg and this helped so much thank you!
the kickflip is the epitome of easier said than done
I literally always end up *kicking* my board away from me
The trick to it is not to concentrate so much on the act of flipping the board. The trick is to act like you're doing an ollie, but drag your foot up the board and flick your toe out past the front of the board in an exaggerated motion. That's how I get those styled out looking kickflips. His kickflips look amazing.
Actually making the board flip takes a lot less 'kick' than you realize. It's all about following through with your form and technique.
Bet My Name Spooked I’m assuming you can already kickflip but try jumping forward while you flick
Unknown TH-camr I can somewhat heelflip but I can’t kickflip
Bet My Name Spooked You same for me but the other way around I can kickflip but land it every 500 tries but I can’t heelflip at all
focus on staying above the board the whole time, key for all skateboarding
Just did mine today. Needed this video
Very detailed! A ton of help I land only 5% at the moment. I’m going to put the tips to action tomorrow. Thank you 🙏
Came here frustrated with switch flips, you're the best Jonny!
that trick tip was the best it really helped you should do a trick tip for big spin or frontside flips good video jonny .
I got heel flips first because they felt less scary a short while after I got kickflips, heel flips really helped me with getting kickflips
"i hardly recommend you to learn to ollie first". the classic german translation mistake.
Wieso?
@@gmon8690 hardly heißt übersetzt "kaum". Hard hat kein Adverb im Englischen. Er sagt also "ich empfehle euch kaum den Ollie also Erstes zu lernen".
ahahaha
@@badsn "Hardly" is a word in English, and he meant "highly", if anything. "I hardly made it through the night".
Jonny, I absolutely fucking love your channel. Keep it up!
0:35 OMG HALARIOUS NICE JOHNNY!!!
Hey dude, I'm still working on my kickflips, but I think what you've said about placing the back-foot on the edge of the board has helped me a lot...another thing it's about waiting more to flick, it was a good tip... now my problem is to maintainmyself on the board right afther the flip, cuz when I step on the board it goes away and I go barckward...
Btw... you're awesome!!!
Thanks to you, i just figured out how to land a lot more of my kick flips. all you had to say was put some weight in your front foot.
awesome style on the ninja kickFlip
thanks good timing i was trying to clean up and get my consistencey better thanks,interesting video
you put it together perfectly man thank you! love ur vids
You are awesome I can see in your eyes and hear it in your voice you want to say how simple something is but you remember they are beginners Braille has the same look and sound , I feel like sometimes you have said something so much your about to kickflip the camera😵 y’all are awesome
Best Kickflips I’ve ever seen
Johnny Giger= consistent and clean
Wirklich klasse erklärt. Macht echt Spass deine Videos zu schauen. LG
This helps a lot. Thanks man.
Master class Jonny!
This is such a great idea for a series Jonny! Interesting and helpfull tips for every skater from rookie to pro! (Well maybe not the pro's, but you get my point 😉 )
So good nice Video i love Kickflip it looks so nice
Thats beyond perfect , Jonny!
The steeeez bro, nice video needed it.
Thats a good looking kickflip!
Johny Giger I am Brazilian and I follow your channel very often and other Brazilians too, you could put subtitles in Portuguese in the video iris be very cool, I'm not very good in English
Landed my first kickflip in the grass tho but still put a smile on my face!!
best kickflip tutorial I've seen
Please do a tutorial on fs and bs 180s
Maleho Mosieleng it’s the same as an Ollie just turn your shoulders as you do it. Your hips and legs will follow
Please do a trick tip for varial heel this one was great
ive been told i have one of the cleanest kickflips. my secret is flip a little later than you think. so its not a late flip but not instant flip after pop. its like a few split seconds delay before you kick for the flip.
So I guess my account unsubscribed to your channel for some reason, and I haven't seen your vids in a while, bro your English has gotten way better! Keep killing it!
Great edit, Jonny.
thanks for the tip on tweaking your back foot
Landed some kick flips after this video 👍🏽
you should definatelly do one for varial heels or Lazer flips
How to perfect ollies, and explain the importance of the knees
I’m Japanese
I can do it like ninja kickflip! Because lm Japanese and ninja is from Japan come man!!!!!
I'm Japanese too haha
lol
So good these tips. Pls do treflip an dhardflips!
Damn the weight tip is the greatest tip ever thanks so much!!! I’m going to subscribe !
Great vid and info! thanks
Actually the pop shuv is technically a flip trick as it spins or "flips" horizontally. It's the first trick you learn that does something under you. I'm sure others may agree or disagree but everyone has their beliefs
you teach very good jony giger
Love this vid, thx Jonny!
Really cool tutorial, i'm going to try what i learned with this
thank giger god i needed this video so bad
best advice was when u said back foot pushes a little forward becuz when u level the board out with the front flick it straightens the board back out and you land bolts everytime ...atleast for me ...b4 i was kinda shoving it back without realizing it which makes the board land diagonal almost opposite of my shoulders