Japanese cruisers and destroyers under attack by US Navy dive bombers off Rabaul in November 1943

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    The Allies of World War II conducted an air attack upon a cruiser force at the major Japanese base of Rabaul in November 1943. In response to the Allied invasion of Bougainville, the Japanese had brought a strong cruiser force down from Truk, their major naval base in the Caroline Islands about 800 miles north of Rabaul, to Rabaul in preparation for a night engagement against the Allied supply and support shipping.
    Allied carrier- and land-based planes attacked the Japanese ships, airfields, and port facilities on the island of New Britain to protect the Allied amphibious invasion of Bougainville. As a result of the Rabaul raids, the Japanese naval forces could no longer threaten the landings. The success of the raid began to change the strongly held belief that carrier-based air forces could not challenge land-based air forces.
    At 3:14 the vessel under attack is probably Chikuma, identifiable by her distinctive four forward twin turrets. She suffered near misses in this engagement and was only lightly damaged.

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  • @blewett76
    @blewett76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    I've been trying to find footage of this nature for a very very long time. This is the best dive bomber footage I've ever seen and really is an incredible window into the chaos that was dive bombing. Thank you so so much for uploading!

  • @hellcat611
    @hellcat611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Dude, thank you for not putting some obnoxious logo over this. Really enjoyable to watch.

    • @82ghall
      @82ghall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      really all the good clips has that logo in the middle

    • @dwightmagnuson4298
      @dwightmagnuson4298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Or any mindless "music".

    • @HighlanderNorth1
      @HighlanderNorth1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      🤔 I just wish he had added an appropriate soundtrack of 1980s techno music... That's exactly what the WW2 era troops listened to back then after all!

    • @widehotep9257
      @widehotep9257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      C R I T I C A L P A S T

    • @Madmok128
      @Madmok128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Critical past lol

  • @ZclassDestroyer
    @ZclassDestroyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    destroyer is Akizuki-class Wakatsuki(0:00 0:27 1:04 1:51 2:30 3:21 3:42 4:02)
    2:55 is Shiratsuyu-class unknown (postscript. It seems that bow is crushed, so it's Samidare)
    cruisers is Tone-class Chikuma(3:14) and Takao-class Atago or Maya(2:17 3:00 probably Atago)
    bird's-eye view photo "80-G-89098" is easy to understand.

    • @igorknezevic4601
      @igorknezevic4601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      On 3:00 there's another ship on the bottom, maybe fuel tanker? And you can also see the crane extended to the right for the spotter plane... At 3:17 is that the spotter plane taking off in the top part of the screen?
      It could be the atago since wikipedia says they were attacked while refueling at Rabaul on November 5th 1943. "Atago sustained three near-misses by 500 lb (230 kg) bombs that killed 22 crewmen"... Its pretty surreal seeing those near misses on video.

    • @ZclassDestroyer
      @ZclassDestroyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@igorknezevic4601
      3:00 tanker is Kawasaki-type oiler, probably Kokuyo Maru (國洋丸)
      as you say, Kokuyo Maru is refueled Chikuma and Maya, and was about to start refueling Atago.
      3:17 is ferryboat
      of about 10m.

    • @TheRpf1977
      @TheRpf1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe I saw a mogami also looked like a 3 turret arrangement forward of bridge and all looked equally spaced because the Chokai and Nachi class the 3 turrets had a forward and reverse arrangement and they sat back to back

    • @feijida8841
      @feijida8841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which of them was sunk by dive bombers?

    • @Wayne.J
      @Wayne.J 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@feijida8841
      None
      Chikuma not hit, Atago 3 bomb hits, Takao 2, Maya 1 and Mogami 1. CL Agano 1.

  • @TS-ef2gv
    @TS-ef2gv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    After they have already expended their bombs they keep coming back around to strafe the decks and draw AA fire away from the aircraft that still had bombs to drop. There are aircraft below the camera POV diving on the ships with dashes of smoke from their guns behind the aircraft and no explosions once they pull out of their dive. Those aircraft have already expended their bombs but they're repeatedly flying back through the AA fire in order to eliminate the gun crews or at least make them keep their heads down while other aircraft are making their bomb runs. Incredible, selfless bravery from what are likely 20-ish year old aircrews.

    • @dividednations44
      @dividednations44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I highly doubt this, wings often expended their bombs together instead of making attacks piecemeal.

    • @grizwoldphantasia5005
      @grizwoldphantasia5005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dividednations44 Nope, it was true, there are plenty of records of it. It's not a matter of single attacks, it's a matter of rejoining after the bomb attack. In addition, multiple targets from multiple directions divided the guns per target, and ships didn't have enough directors to aim at all targets.

    • @dividednations44
      @dividednations44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@grizwoldphantasia5005 if that is really true, then those pilots are very incompetent. minimizing contact and overwhelming enemy air defense simultaneously would have been the better conduct, especially when the targets are in the shadow of an enemy air base.

    • @grizwoldphantasia5005
      @grizwoldphantasia5005 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dividednations44 They won the war. You didn't. It's called minimizing overall losses by confusing the enemy.

    • @dividednations44
      @dividednations44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@grizwoldphantasia5005 if their war was waged against the fish and corral off Rabaul I will be inclined to agree, otherwise hardly any war was being won that day.

  • @johnstark4723
    @johnstark4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Depending on bomb size a near miss was as good as a hit as the concussion of the. Last would pop rivets and break welds on hulls and bulkheads. It's why today, all US Navy ships get shoxk testing done. Even equipment gets damaged in the concussion. Back in WWII steam lines broke, rudders stuck and engines were even knocked off their mounts. Anything that slowed or stopped the enemy was a good hit.

    • @Hongobogologomo
      @Hongobogologomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I believe thats why much ww2 ships were used in nuclear testing, to see how overpressure from blast effects hull integrity

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you check the Wiki on HMS Barham, there's a good deal of discussion on that page about the effects of nearby underwater shell bursts; structural damage and flooding.

    • @alexwilliamson1486
      @alexwilliamson1486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed, those bombs could do tremendous damage just from a near miss…and some of them were NEAR! Amazing footage!

    • @widehotep9257
      @widehotep9257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for this comment! I was noticing none of the bombs made a direct hit, but the HUGE explosions and shock waves looked damaging. You answered my question before I asked it.

    • @johnstark4723
      @johnstark4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@widehotep9257 no problem😉
      A lot of people don't know that's why yhe US Navy does shock tests on every new ship, even its multi billion dollar carriers. They can take a beating and keep on ticking like a Timex thanks to shock testing. The things they have learned doing this has led to major improvements in each successive class of ship and their ability to handle near hits.

  • @av8tore71
    @av8tore71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    It's amazing that the allies didn't have more midair collisions than they did! My grandfather who is 102 flew the P-51 & P-47 in Europe during WWII was in and had seen numerous midair collisions but the Germans were doing it to themselves however my grandfather was in a midair with his wingman strafing a train locomotive coming out of the run. Both made it back but the P-47 needed a new wing according to him!

    • @datziklegendz1225
      @datziklegendz1225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mine too. Awarded purple heart, distinguished flying cross with 3 oak leave clusters, and service air medal with 2 bronze and one silver oak leave cluster. Man was a beast. And he was the first fighter aircraft to dorp a bomb in Europe

    • @someguy999
      @someguy999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      “If you want to get the girl fly a P-51, if you want to go home to your girl strap on a P-47.”.

    • @markr.katzman3743
      @markr.katzman3743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you for his service and sacrifice...the difference between your grandfather's generation and my 60's and later generations is so painfully different that I have a hard time grasping this. It truly was the greatest generation because of the difficult challenges and the fact that so many American men rose to the occasion. Sorry to bring politics into it but when Gov Cuomo make the idiotic remark about the US never being that great, I thought of your grandfather's generation - the US was and is great.

    • @ferrallderrall6588
      @ferrallderrall6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@markr.katzman3743 Cuomo,isnt that the hand on ass all the time guy?

    • @davidwildberger6656
      @davidwildberger6656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      please interview your grandpa write questions have him tell his experiences and put on youtube before its too late preserve history

  • @sillywillyandabbygirl8496
    @sillywillyandabbygirl8496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Wow, I thought I've seen ever piece of footage from the war until now!!! Thank you for posting this!!!

    • @johnstark4723
      @johnstark4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol, you could be born and live 100 years and still not see every foot of footage the US had alone from WWII. There are still films that haven't been seen by anyone in storage. That's just one country, add in all the rest and in 10 lifetimes you couldn't see it all

  • @LoftusRoadLad
    @LoftusRoadLad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    That is some tremendous video--never seen it before. Shows a couple of things: how hard it must have been to keep the target within parameters; they were probably flying through each other's frag patterns; the most dangerous person besides the Japanese might have been your wingman; and, finally what courage it must have taken to do that. My heart goes out to the rear gunner--must have been stomach wrenching. Callsign: "Steelballs"?

    • @ichabodon
      @ichabodon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not just the tail gunner - they all had steel balls.

    • @judpratt3092
      @judpratt3092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I need

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My late uncle flew B-25s in the Pacific; skip-bombing missions. He's credited with the sinking of an ASW escort vessel - basically what the US would call a corvette. He didn't talk about those missions; it seemed to me that they were extremely hairy memories for him. Say what you will about the IJN, they knew how to fight.

    • @travistolbert2647
      @travistolbert2647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lairdcummings9092 Jay Stout's book Air Apaches is a pretty incredible accounting of some of the missions men like your Uncle flew in the Pacific. May those incredible men and women that served rest in peace after the horrors of war they had to endure.

    • @gravitypronepart2201
      @gravitypronepart2201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And to think of the G's these guys subjected themselves to. And without a G-Suit in 43. By then, the manually inflated bladder around the waist may have been in use, but it was complicated to use while doing this. Hats off to these dive bomber crews. Special breed right there.

  • @drott150
    @drott150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Never before seen footage for me and most others. It really shows what an utter melee dive bombing was in this era. One thought that comes to my mind is if their single engine aircraft is struck with even a minor hit in an oil coiler or a fuel tank etc they would not be making it home. Even if they bailed out or ditched successfully and either found themselves in the sea far away from an island or close enough to swim to an occupied island. Death was probable in all scenarios. One minor hit or mechanical malfunction and you are done for. Yet there they are bravely flying headfirst into those AA batteries over and over like a swarm of angry hornets

    • @TheSunnyvaleTrailerPark
      @TheSunnyvaleTrailerPark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well put!✌

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PBY-5A Catalinas picked lots of aviators out of the sea and would be around.

    • @hannotn
      @hannotn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus if you go into the sea anywhere close to land in that area you'd face an additional danger- saltwater crocodiles. Largely estuarine, but also venture into open sea (and that's fairly close to land, anyway.

  • @GavinC.S
    @GavinC.S 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This is very rare to seen any footage of this, keep it up!

    • @mrcoco3562
      @mrcoco3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe its fake because 1945 haven got this technology for this good video footage

    • @Ivzu
      @Ivzu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrcoco3562 Not true.

    • @mrcoco3562
      @mrcoco3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ivzu Hey cat Believe me because I am a dog 🐶 we are the same, those human trying to cheat us

  • @SNB57
    @SNB57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Never forget how YOUNG most of these pilots were. Also, I remember seeing an interview years ago with Ken Burns about his "The War" documentary. He said for all the hundreds and hundreds of hours they spent looking through National Archive photos and film there was still much more to be found, some of which has never been seen since it was filed away decades ago after the war.

  • @brothercaptainprice
    @brothercaptainprice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Another gem of unseen footage. Incomprehensible to imagine the courage of the flight crews. Father was a Royal Marine and mother a Wren in WW11. Ordinary people called upon to perform extraordinary acts. Truly, The Greatest Generation and we all owe them a debt of gratitude.

    • @vincentmcardell8183
      @vincentmcardell8183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We sure do owe them a lot. If the "greatest generation" of American men had not won the war, this generation of American men would not have the freedom to marry other men.

  • @b2tall239
    @b2tall239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Great video. Those near misses are doing a lot of damage under the waterline of those ships. In many cases, the hydraulic pressure created by a near-miss can be just as bad or worse than a direct hit since it causes damage below the surface.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @St Matthew footage doesnt show the Zeroes and Oscars chasing them

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @St Matthew Virtually impossible to get a nice clean 'parallel' course; those ships are twisting and turning all over the ocean to make that as hard as possible.

    • @dudeinthesea
      @dudeinthesea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I flew in a 172 once and the strong wind was already stressful enough. These guys however have to fly while accounting for their fuel, wind direction, zeros on their 6s, ground fire, air brakes, wingman's position, bomb trajectory, target predicted course etc. No auto pilot, no GPS, no targeting computer. So, no doubt these are the greatest aviators.

    • @widehotep9257
      @widehotep9257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @St Matthew The ships are zigging and zagging and always in a turn.

    • @68Boca
      @68Boca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sshooter444 That's because there wasn't any in this instance, they were caught in the open, daylight and no CAP.

  • @philipmason3218
    @philipmason3218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The sheer bravery and determination of these young men is unimaginable today.

  • @galeonespanol7596
    @galeonespanol7596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The SBD was indeed the hammer of US NAVY during WW2. It’s interesting to watch the film taken from one aircraft at 1:26 when it has just finished his diving and the film at 4:05 , showing same moment but taken from another SBD, diving above. I’ve seen this vid before but never in full length and such a good quality, thank you man .

  • @thomasooms9541
    @thomasooms9541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I admit, I had never seen some of this footage. Impressed. Can't help but wonder at the hit percentage/ effectiveness. I realize even near misses were bad for armor plating.

    • @hw97karbine
      @hw97karbine  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In some cases a near miss could be even worse, this wikipedia section about torpedo warheads is applicable and interesting reading: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo#Damage

    • @Chironex_Fleckeri
      @Chironex_Fleckeri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hw97karbine True. Against a lightly armored ship, or really an unarmored ship like a Japanese destroyer could probably have it's hull buckled by a near miss. Can lift up the ship and slam it down against the void created in the water

    • @richardcheese4722
      @richardcheese4722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The concussion wreaks all sorts of havoc on the machine. Those near misses are def causing internal and structural failure. Not to mention stressing tf out of the crew and dinging their moral. Add in that it's an all hands evolution to repair the ship. I guarantee you them boats are going to be limping for awhile if not forever.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@richardcheese4722 The Japanese didn’t have an “all hands on deck” system for damage control. They instead had specially trained DamCon teams assigned to each vessel, who generally knew what they were doing, except that the mentality was that ONLY the DamCon people should handle DamCon. So if the latter were dead or isolated due to combat damage on the ship, you might not as well have DamCon.
      This is actually what happened to the Japanese carriers at Midway-the fires that doomed them could have been reduced (though this would just mean they’d sink more slowly given the intensity of the blaze), but the DamCon guys died in said fires and literally nobody else in the crews bothered to fill in for them, because it wasn’t their job and they weren’t trained for it at any rate. In cases like Coral Sea or Santa Cruz, where Japanese DamCon personnel survived, they did effectively manage to fix ships up.
      And of course, later in the war they ran out of DamCon personnel and you get cases like Taiho.

    • @DOI_ARTS
      @DOI_ARTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For personnel too, its like a flash the size of a drum just exploded in front of you

  • @ivanovitchivanovsky8255
    @ivanovitchivanovsky8255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow, this footage is so clear that you can see the 25mm AA guns firing.

  • @markjones7185
    @markjones7185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We've seen so many films from WW II, nothing sustained like this. I literally held on to my chair seeing this the first time. How brave these men are.

  • @cameronalexander359
    @cameronalexander359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing footage. EVERYTHING hung in the balance upon the shoulders of those brave young men.
    Lest we forget.

  • @dividednations44
    @dividednations44 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:33 you can see the amidships portside Type 96 mount firing. Crews on these mounts had the habit of holding fire until the target came close to maximize accuracy.

  • @skipmountain9283
    @skipmountain9283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No music crap, just the goods. Thank you so much!!

  • @haveraygunwilltravel
    @haveraygunwilltravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The Japanese had the 25 mm Hotchkiss type anti-aircraft gun. It's horrible. They never upgraded to anything better. Stopping dive bomber attacks with decent guns is difficult. The US 5 inch / 38 with VT fuse, linked to a radar fire control director, was fairly decent at ranges before they started their dive and in the dive at high altitudes. The 40 mm and 20 mm from then on. But straight above, you had to rely on surrounding ships to help. You then covered them in return.

    • @ЮраАлюра
      @ЮраАлюра 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Как Байден-бред несёшь

    • @Hongobogologomo
      @Hongobogologomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dare say stopping divebombers is impossible. Once theyve arrived, brace for impact. You cant shoot a bomb down in 1940s

    • @ЮраАлюра
      @ЮраАлюра 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hongobogologomo нее, непонятно что это за такие теплые пожелания взаимно поздравляю с новым счастьем

    • @kyleJohn1997
      @kyleJohn1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Type 96 AT/AA Guns which were based on the Hotchkiss

    • @Dejaelvicio507
      @Dejaelvicio507 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleJohn1997 Imperial Japan rarely made its own model weapons and gadgets.

  • @yes_head
    @yes_head 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    For those complaining of no hits, there's a LOT of oil in the water in some of those clips, and it didn't just show up on its own.

    • @jamessweet5341
      @jamessweet5341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of the Japanese ships were lighter than comparable US counterparts, mostly from less armor. That gave them a lot of agility for these kinds of maneuvers though.

  • @whatmakesyouwonder6363
    @whatmakesyouwonder6363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clearly visible damage to the cruisers and destroyers through oil spills

  • @JohnSmith-gb5vg
    @JohnSmith-gb5vg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow those guys really suck at bombing… oh wait, that’s not a game is it? No way would I have volunteered to be a dive bomber pilot, dive straight down, can’t maneuver till you “pickle” you load, being shot at the entire time, definitely balls of steel they had.

  • @ericscottstevens
    @ericscottstevens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fathers co-worker was a teacher named Barbara Jean Ohnsman in Rockford Michigan. Her first husband Robert Kaap died in this raid.
    Robert E. Kaap, Ensign, USNR USS ESSEX. F6F Hellcat Pilot VF-9 "Cat O Nine"
    Upon the final day of attacking on Rabaul Harbor on November 11th 1943 Robert participated on the fighter cover of USN dive bombers attacking the ships and harbor facilities.
    While he was in formation with wingman Lt. Casey Childers to the rendezvous point, Childers looked back for a visual on Kapp's aircraft only to see it in flames after taking several hits from an enemy fighter. Eyewitness accounts indicated that Robert successfully ditched his aircraft in the water but during the confusion of the battle no one was able to indicate his last known position. Search patrols were unable to find his location. Robert was listed as MIA until declared KIA on January 11, 1946.

  • @マスオオオタ
    @マスオオオタ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    至近弾が炸裂するたびに心が痛みます、日本人ですから。

  • @wgbc2393
    @wgbc2393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    '' REMEMBER EVERYBODY ''... they didn't have laser-beam lock TECH ; to hit targets .It was eye ball on target gizmo's ...DINOSAUR stuff !

  • @stanpressley8136
    @stanpressley8136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible what our fellow AMERICANS did and went through for this nation We should never run around apologize for nothing!!!!!!

  • @MeatVision
    @MeatVision 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've never seen this kind of footage, it's very interesting

  • @joseywales9726
    @joseywales9726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wasn't Rabaul one of the locations mentioned often on Black Sheep Squadron

  • @ps-ic8pm
    @ps-ic8pm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cool seeing the dive brakes out on the SBDs to slow their descent, kinda like when your airliner lands.

  • @Grandizer8989
    @Grandizer8989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sinking their DDs was just as good as a Cruiser or even BB since they were the backbone of Japan troop/supply ships since American subs destroyed so many transport ships.

  • @SIDEKICKONYOUTUBE
    @SIDEKICKONYOUTUBE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well thank you American G.I.s and Mabuhay. if it wasn't for your help we would be speaking Japanese today.

  • @pizzafrenzyman
    @pizzafrenzyman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:04 Team damage. I find it remarkable how bad some of the pilots were at lining up their drops. The first one was ridiculous.

    • @standingvertical3048
      @standingvertical3048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There also taking on fire peckerwood. The ships are not just going to let them trace and unload without firing back. Easy with the pizza pedo.

    • @johnfitzgerald2339
      @johnfitzgerald2339 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I noticed that too. You can see it smoking. Poor pilot may have needed to bail.

    • @birdzzzondayflu2489
      @birdzzzondayflu2489 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were controlling the plane with a stick between their legs

  • @Ivancorresempre70
    @Ivancorresempre70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Truly spectacular and dramatic footage sequences.
    I've never seen it before.
    War is bad business.
    Thank you very much for uploading.

  • @TheMarine015
    @TheMarine015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Where is this all coming from?!?!?! I grew up watching WW2 shows and documentaries and I have never seen footage like this

    • @hw97karbine
      @hw97karbine  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There are hours and hours of raw footage in the archives, most of them are nothing interesting but there are still some gems to be found.

    • @haveraygunwilltravel
      @haveraygunwilltravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hw97karbine . I've found a lot. Some in color. It's amazing for a WW2 history buff.

  • @kenmoloy8712
    @kenmoloy8712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Question: what is causing the wake (?) from some ships from near the bow and from one side of the ship only? Example at 3:25.
    Also, looks like a lot of oil on the water in some of these shots. Incredible footage.

    • @Hongobogologomo
      @Hongobogologomo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At evasion speed, the bow of ships begins to hydroplane and, while turning, shears the surface creating the 2nd wake.

    • @bobbylee2853
      @bobbylee2853 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re trying to create a smoke screen and hopefully hide themselves.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking maybe a near miss sheared off a piece of hull?

    • @dividednations44
      @dividednations44 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the ship is banking hard, the port bow is creating a second wake because of the side-strafing movement of the ship

  • @ronnygunhappy7458
    @ronnygunhappy7458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great footage thanks, I'm always looking forward to the next gem you uncover. Keep it up.

  • @gonebabygone4116
    @gonebabygone4116 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quite the contrast to the absolute junk in the 2019 Midway movie. Usually clips from action movies set in WWII draw me in, but right from the start I thought "Wow, this is even worse than Fury."

  • @caseyalexander1705
    @caseyalexander1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Outstanding footage.

  • @clacicle
    @clacicle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! This footage is insane. I wish we could see this on a big screen. Who knows, perhaps Peter Jackson will take something like this on as his next project.

  • @grvc44
    @grvc44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Judging by the Footage, dive bombing against a moving target is much more difficult than i thought.

    • @vk2ig
      @vk2ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a lot more difficult than a lot of people thought.
      Some people in the comments section are making negative comments about the accuracy of these pilots. I'd like to see these commentators take a SB2C or SBD up and hit a moving target - they can show us how it's done.

  • @TiberiusMaximus
    @TiberiusMaximus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:55 bow blown off

  • @spudskie3907
    @spudskie3907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing footage! Hopefully you will find footage of dive bombers against carriers.

    • @ЮраАлюра
      @ЮраАлюра 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Да, только авианосцы США атакованные японцами есть в сети

  • @ronniefarnsworth6465
    @ronniefarnsworth6465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most of the attack is on both, the Tone and Chikuma !!

  • @mq9047
    @mq9047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are on a roll man, you’ve been posting killer videos everyday

  • @Rhino1277HotRails
    @Rhino1277HotRails 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 252 what better could you ask for..
    two large ships.

  • @sunnyorbit
    @sunnyorbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have never seen this before. Also good to see it silent, without an added soundtrack.

  • @williamromero4445
    @williamromero4445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I want to know is who the Hell is recording this 🤔😳

  • @equim7363
    @equim7363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unique footage! Can't imagine how scary it is on the ship at the moment... Poor lads

    • @kennethquesenberry2610
      @kennethquesenberry2610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It might be worth mentioning that for a mother to lose her son during a war, any war, would have been something of a sacrifice. On this subject, however, my son-in-law's grandmother (on her father's side) served in the RAF during WWII in various capacities, all in London. Her mother was still having babies during that period. She died only recently.
      No one has suggested whether women should or shouldn't serve in the armed forces. Or vote.

  • @uniqueuser52138
    @uniqueuser52138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is friggin insane

  • @antiquebowieknifechannel4611
    @antiquebowieknifechannel4611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unlike the movies...it looked freaking hard to drop a bomb on a moving ship! More misses than hits for sure.

  • @teddychalgren
    @teddychalgren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Watching on 12 January 2022. Incredible bravery.

  • @agentolshki1690
    @agentolshki1690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your uploading some creal gems here I wonder where your getting it from. I'd exhausted yt for gun camera footage. This is great stuff I've not seen before, keep up the good work!

  • @Acheiropoietos
    @Acheiropoietos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing footage, I never seen this before.

  • @Ph3NiX80
    @Ph3NiX80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What the hell!? This is mind blowing footage. To think there is probably more of it somewhere in some archive makes me lose sleep. Salutations to all the brave sailors and fliers of WW2, from both sides.

  • @koreatiger8449
    @koreatiger8449 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    일본조선 당신들의 숭고한 희생에 감사드립니다

  • @Dragon43ish
    @Dragon43ish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    .....the Japanese awoke a sleeping giant all 48 states of them.....heha

  • @shellshockedgerman3947
    @shellshockedgerman3947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some of the 'cruisers' are actually destroyers. Some of the footage contain an Akizuki-class and one shot has what looks to be a Shiratsuyu-class.

    • @hw97karbine
      @hw97karbine  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      fair point, title updated

    • @shellshockedgerman3947
      @shellshockedgerman3947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hw97karbine To be fair, American aviators had a habit of misidentifying destroyers, particularly the Akizukis, as cruisers.

    • @haveraygunwilltravel
      @haveraygunwilltravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shellshockedgerman3947
      They were very long looking for destroyers. So I could understand. All air crews, through out history, seem to be very ( optimistic) in their reporting. They mean well.

  • @mysteryman2219
    @mysteryman2219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:40 Anybody with knowledge on why one bomb exploded with tons of shrapnel and one didnt?

    • @hw97karbine
      @hw97karbine  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fuzing, some bombs detonated on impact while others had a certain delay.

  • @The35speedster
    @The35speedster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like some major oil slicks created by the damaged ships

  • @robkj7575
    @robkj7575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very authentic. No sound...

  • @Rhino1277HotRails
    @Rhino1277HotRails ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talk about being in "a whole heap of trouble"

  • @389383
    @389383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of brave fish died that day.

  • @whatmakesyouwonder6363
    @whatmakesyouwonder6363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I was one of the crew of one of those warships and saw SBD's dive bombing on our ship, I would definitely sh*t myself no doubt. A snappy salute to all those young men who died fighting for their country.

  • @litltoosee
    @litltoosee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You just earned my subscription.

  • @Larrycspinga
    @Larrycspinga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice footage very hard to find thanks

  • @hayachan903
    @hayachan903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truly amazing. Thanks for sharing these!!

  • @AlexandeR-bb7fx
    @AlexandeR-bb7fx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is pure gold just amazing.

  • @josephnason8770
    @josephnason8770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this is the best footage l have seen. I wonder how much more similar to it is laying around? Keep up the good work all of you footage sleuths in TH-cam land. Also assuming these are sb2c Helldivers , not sbd Dauntless. No date given to help but sbd's were still used late in the war. My dad flew both. Carrier qualified in sbd, combat in sb2c, land targets in Japan only, no ships.

    • @hw97karbine
      @hw97karbine  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      These attacks happened in November 1943 and SBDs are clearly recognizable in some of the shots, there were definitely SBDs from USS Saratoga that took part in this action.

  • @Ro6entX
    @Ro6entX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some pretty sized ships there and incredible footage. Sure, this was nearly 80 years ago and it was a war started by their countrymen but have to feel bit sorry for the sailors on those ships; big bombs, .50s hitting all over and not much cover from all.

  • @jochenheiden
    @jochenheiden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching those bombs hit near the ship, you just know people are dying from splinters.

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was gonna say, getting wet.

    • @jaykay8570
      @jaykay8570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just the shockwave will turn your insides to jelly.

    • @timothycampbell495
      @timothycampbell495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zxbzxbzxb1 Actually, water transmits the shockwave at a much higher velocity than air. It just doesn't travel as far before it dissipates. A near miss is just as effective as a torpedo hit.

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A lot of innocent fish died that day.

    • @haveraygunwilltravel
      @haveraygunwilltravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zxbzxbzxb1 water doesn't compress.
      It displaces. A hit that close caved in the hull of the prince of Wales while at dock. It bowed the hull of the Lite cruiser marble head. Near Miss causes damage especially to a lightly armoured destroyer.

  • @markjones7185
    @markjones7185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BRAVE SOBs.

  • @peacock69mcp
    @peacock69mcp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those were the days when they had to line up their bombers to bomb a target accurately. 90% of bombs are wasted, killing marine creatures.

  • @jacobcorcho2518
    @jacobcorcho2518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy shit hahah. Please don't ever delete this channel

  • @BJTAPALES69
    @BJTAPALES69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *ALLAHU AKBAR!*

  • @thepirate5955
    @thepirate5955 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's easy to forget these young aviators were so incredibly young! We may not know them all . . . but we certainly owe them all!

    • @africanlipplateandbonenose3223
      @africanlipplateandbonenose3223 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      owe them for what? signing the death warrant of the west? The White race is now on the verge of extinction because we fought the wrong enemy.

  • @dontcomply5008
    @dontcomply5008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Miss, miss, miss miss miss.

  • @tenthdimension9836
    @tenthdimension9836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible footage at 0:41

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Far out! ... we are lucky these vids even exist! 🇳🇿

  • @scottperry7311
    @scottperry7311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The video at 2:39 is absolutely incredible. For the pilots that day that must have been something they will never forget. I am trying to picture that in color. I have never seen this video before or anything like it, it's amazing.

    • @TheRpf1977
      @TheRpf1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hard to find most color cameras were big bulky units usually had to be pedestal mounted even by 1945 the very best cameras were reserved for photo recon planes most average gun cameras were good quality but very few were color cameras. between Jan 42 and Jan 45 we made huge advancements in everything from cameras to radios from experience even things like ground air strikes they were implementing forward observers who could communicate with aircraft and call in strikes

    • @scottperry7311
      @scottperry7311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRpf1977 Yes, and even the color video of the time was not the best quality. But imagine, being one of those pilots and bringing the nose of you plane down for a run and seeing that image before you. The water must have been all shades of blue, turquois, and green, white caps rippling off wake of the ships and the churn of their propellers. The sparkle of the sun bouncing off the waves as you can even see in the Black and White footage, and the dark gray ships with rust in color decks laid out before you. But that's not also imagining the sheer terror of flying into AA, the tunnelling of your vision on your target, the blocking out of the sound under the stress and intense concentration of a bomb run. Beautiful and horrifying at the same time, and I'm sure those pilots and crew never forgot.

  • @carroarmatom15
    @carroarmatom15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    日本の船が攻撃されるのを見るとやはり 悲しい

  • @brrrlak
    @brrrlak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As we see here, divebombing with a 40ties airplane is not that easy.

  • @tomy.1846
    @tomy.1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's simply amazing to realize that there is an underwater zone of war with subs, the surface fleets, and the airplanes all fighting at once. Their minds had to be stretched to the breaking point, brave souls all!

  • @raymondvia3786
    @raymondvia3786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would never flown an SB2C Helldiver. These were SBD DAUNTLESS and crews lived them Not so with SB2CS which were called SOBS Second Class.

  • @helios080
    @helios080 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow the pacific ocean sure took a pounding~!

  • @Crashed131963
    @Crashed131963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think one ship was hit.
    Poor fish.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did all that oil come from then?

  • @redtobertshateshandles
    @redtobertshateshandles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see these mostly near misses and wonder how these planes compared to the Stuka.

    • @shellshockedgerman3947
      @shellshockedgerman3947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably better. Hitting ships is difficult because they move around and have actual anti aircraft weaponry.

    • @haveraygunwilltravel
      @haveraygunwilltravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Much better. Heavier bomb load, faster, longer range. They even used them to supplement combat air patrol during Kamikaze raids. Two
      .50 call in the wings and two for the rear gunner. With out a bomb load and half load of fuel it was faster and more maneuverable than anything but the zero and it's sub types. Very accurate as you can tell. Hitting a destroyer traveling at speed ain't easy. It was a decent at infantry support as well. The USAAF used a few in North Africa and Italy as well but the Navy had first dibbs.

    • @snake57
      @snake57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The close misses will cause some leaks

    • @francescoguzzetta
      @francescoguzzetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@haveraygunwilltravel SBD had only .30 cal armament, not .50.
      Later stukas had two 20mm guns in the wings (37mm the anti-tank version) and twin .30 in the rear.
      Max bomb load for Ju87D: 3965 lb
      Max bomb load for SBD: 2250 lb
      .
      Stuka also had very advanced automatic recovery system from the dive, allowing the plane to stay on course and recover also if pilot totally blacked out.
      SBD didn't have this.
      The only advantages SDB had was faster level speed and longer range.
      However, the Stuka was a much older design, entered in service in 1935, while SBD did in 1940

  • @Grunt0369USMC
    @Grunt0369USMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lots of misses not like the movies where every bomb hits or the dive bomber even lines up on the ship

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What people don't realize how difficult it was to conduct dive bombing attacks, some dropped their bombs at quite high altitude while diving, but it only achive small chance of a hit, with high altitude drops they could pull out from the dive quite relatively easy, on the other hand some pilots even dared dropping the bombs at the last possible seconds to ensure a maximum chance of a hit before that very moment when the aircraft have no chance at recovery from the dive and crash straight into the sea or even the target

  • @NorthKoreaUncovered
    @NorthKoreaUncovered 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain why rockets weren't used as often as bombs were? Wouldn't a barrage of accurate rocket fire from that angle do far more damage than near misses from 500-1000lb bombs?

  • @jggallow01
    @jggallow01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best we had but still a wildly inaccurate process. Just the shear numbers of bombs dropped did the job.

    • @someguy999
      @someguy999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were extremely precise compared to the B-17s which they tried againt Japanese shipping in the Pacific.

  • @kpd3308
    @kpd3308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeez, some of those guys dove in really low!!!

  • @iduswelton9567
    @iduswelton9567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to know how these pilots making those vertical drives then pulling out at 6 to 8 g's didn't pass out- truely those pilots were SUPERMEN

    • @4shink
      @4shink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In fact they did "gray" out...inevitable if you pull more than5 G's w/o pressure suit. First the pilot get tunnel vision then the tunnel collapses while hopefully the pull out is continuing.

  • @stevelewis7263
    @stevelewis7263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how many people watching this were saying "PULL UP, PULL UP, PULL UP"

  • @seadog2396
    @seadog2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, dive bombing must have been a lot harder than it looks. Their aim is awful.

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes you wonder how many of the pilots were green. They kept missing to fore and starboard...overshots. A lot of them did fly longitudinal to the ships though.

    • @seadog2396
      @seadog2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drott150 Mine would have been worse.
      Their Tech failed them.

    • @spudskie3907
      @spudskie3907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You try hitting a ship that is twisting and turning, not to mention shooting back at you.

    • @seadog2396
      @seadog2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spudskie3907 Yep. Good Point.
      Sure seems like the odds were against them.
      I have long thought what kind of Balls it takes to spend about 60 seconds aiming your plane at a ship, which has 8-10 ack-ack guns firing furiously at you, and how you, in the plane, could survive that....

    • @seadog2396
      @seadog2396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mm Let's hope it is the truth, and not U.S. WWII Propaganda, which was known to exist.

  • @phillippatterson9484
    @phillippatterson9484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Smart bomb technology would have sank a entire navy in days..

  • @spacecoyote6646
    @spacecoyote6646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Remember the Battle of Midway? When Richard Best put one bomb into the Akagi (aircraft carrier) and sank it?

    • @Rhino1277HotRails
      @Rhino1277HotRails ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe it was two hits but one 1,000 pounder is attributed to starting the catastrophic fire that resulted in ammunition chain reaction. Depends on whose account you read

  • @thublit
    @thublit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tough to do, have to get lined up and go neutral controls then add in real life..... (did I leave the oven on?:)