Sinking the Vandenberg - Full Episode

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  • In the turquoise blue waters of the Florida Keys, a new attraction is drawing scuba divers from around the world: The USNS General Hoyt S. Vandenberg. The Vandenberg is the world’s second largest intentionally sunk shipwreck.
    Prior to being sunk, this mighty ship transported troops to the battlefields of World War II, carried European refugees to distant shores, and later helped win the Cold War. Left abandoned for years as part of a ghost fleet, the Vandenberg has at last found her final resting place - seven miles off Key West, in the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary.
    In her last mission as an artificial reef, this massive ship is already attracting a variety of fish and other marine life. Now, natural resources managers are trying to determine what impact this artificial reef has on fish populations and the health of the surrounding natural reefs.
    Learn more at www.changingseas.tv or changingseas

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  • @richardmilla9891
    @richardmilla9891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Richard Milla
    When this ship was the USS General Harry Taylor it was still a troop transport, she brought me to America as an 8 1/2 year old refugee from Bremen Hafen Germany to New York on March 29, 1952. Thank you and "GOD BLESS AMERICA" I am proud to be an American Citizen, Army veteran , retired New York City Police Officer 22 years, retired U.S. Customs Officer of 18 years and am now retired. Presently living in Whitestone, New York, and living the good life that this country has given me.

    • @Del-Canada
      @Del-Canada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great story. Thank you.

    • @nancymcglinn8717
      @nancymcglinn8717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for your service!!!!! And I’m glad your here!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏻😇✌️👍🦋

    • @Bill_N_ATX
      @Bill_N_ATX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for serving your new country. We are glad you are here!

    • @brosandarrowsbowfishing
      @brosandarrowsbowfishing ปีที่แล้ว

      This ship brought my grandmother the Ellis Island

  • @joshuaforsythe1936
    @joshuaforsythe1936 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such and awesome shipwreck. These guys are legends!

  • @jeanneeber
    @jeanneeber ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So excited to hear Peter Thomas's voice narrating again. I've never heard him on anything but "Forensic Files".
    His voice made that show what it still is today (& this one too!)

    • @2003BMW325i
      @2003BMW325i ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I literally came here to comment the exact same thing. I still fall asleep to forensic files every night. His voice is the most soothing voice I've ever heard.

    • @maniachill3069
      @maniachill3069 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This guy's voice is so friggin creepy, I can't watch this documentary.....

  • @haroldsteinblatt2567
    @haroldsteinblatt2567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As the General Harry Taylor, the ship brought my Holocaust survivors parents and my brother to the US in 1950. I'm so glad that it is serving such a wonderful purpose today.

  • @dfhj4556
    @dfhj4556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Sailed on her many times from Pearl to Kwajalein to track Minuteman missiles out of Vandenberg AFB.Much more useful end than just being scrapped,although watching your old home at sea go down stirs up a lot of memories.

  • @blackkimba851
    @blackkimba851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Would have been nice to see more of the sinking that's kind of why people came here to watch

  • @KB4QAA
    @KB4QAA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:24 The ship was not '...Abandoned for years...". She was part of the Reserve Fleet which was prepared for storage and carefully monitored 24/7. On a periodic basis workmen would board the ship and make visual inspections for safety and security. She was never abandoned.

    • @marqsee7948
      @marqsee7948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that sounds eerily like grandparents...

  • @bigimskiweisenheimer8325
    @bigimskiweisenheimer8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was a Gunners Mate on the USS Speigel Grove LSD 32. We were out of Little Creek Virginia Amphibious base.

  • @Del-Canada
    @Del-Canada 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wreck diving is amazing. I miss it.

  • @josephjackson7269
    @josephjackson7269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From my observation the Vandenberg is the gem now

  • @greerun
    @greerun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That’s me carrying the stuff in the white suit

    • @paulgiltner5224
      @paulgiltner5224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What time frame of the 30 minute documentary are you shown?

    • @Mossadagent666
      @Mossadagent666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At 13:15 ?

  • @charlesharrington5832
    @charlesharrington5832 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I live in port Canaveral remember well the van coming and going many times know many of the crew's that were on her

    • @jjump122
      @jjump122 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My Grandfather was on that ship

    • @tradcatholic
      @tradcatholic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jjump122 was my dad's ship WW II

    • @dmeroney
      @dmeroney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My grandfather served on the USS Harry Taylor as well. Clark "Pinky" Curry was a member of the ship's band and helped to transport many soldiers during WWII.

  • @ianofliverpool7701
    @ianofliverpool7701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Only seen a couple of seconds of footage of the sinking atleast half the time was spent with the camera looking at some men cheering......waist of time.

  • @cyberp0et
    @cyberp0et 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw this ship while being prepared for sinking. I was on board a cruise ship and thought it was a Russian ship, because of thr renaming for the movie. I looked it up and found out about the movie as well.

  • @kirkkirkland7244
    @kirkkirkland7244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's hard to believe that some fools think that it's a bad thing to sink these ships!!

  • @siggesaltens2663
    @siggesaltens2663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    a lot of chemistry in the water

  • @brianwhetton9621
    @brianwhetton9621 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would sinking vessels along the coast of Pacifica assist in preventing further erosion ?

  • @JohnSmith-gb5vg
    @JohnSmith-gb5vg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lived in Satellite Beach during the mid-seventies and remember the “white ship with the satellite dishes”.

  • @pkgum6910
    @pkgum6910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cutting charges, eh? Interesting how quickly the ship sank and pretty much in an upright position and without what appeared to be enormous explosions.

    • @cyberp0et
      @cyberp0et 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      9-11 ;)

    • @sloopcamotop502
      @sloopcamotop502 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cyberp0et I know right? Did you know it was actually Walt Disney that sank this, using submarines energized by aliens using gluten as a medium via red baseball hats?

  • @garlandremingtoniii1338
    @garlandremingtoniii1338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never forget my time aboard her as 1st Mate. All of MERCHANT MARINE OFFICERS, Was members of the AMO, 👮‍♂️ AMERICAN 👮 MARITIME 👮‍♀️ OFFICERS UNION…

  • @NickM20985
    @NickM20985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The narrator sounds like the guy who does the narration for Forensic Files.

    • @Guest4465
      @Guest4465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they are the same narrator

  • @MG2000MDPHD
    @MG2000MDPHD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found out my parents came to the US on this ship as displaced persons.

  • @kenguier8464
    @kenguier8464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the USS Oriskany ? 880+ feet in length sitting 22 miles off the coast of Pensacola, in the Gulf of Mexico. Largest man-made reef in the world. ????

  • @AR15.666
    @AR15.666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does a US ship have what i assume is Russia text ?

  • @Guest4465
    @Guest4465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I hear is the voice of forensic files

  • @VAHOSS
    @VAHOSS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did it cost 8 million dollars? How?

    • @JohnSmith-gb5vg
      @JohnSmith-gb5vg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paperwork; multiple fees processes, multiple approval request (yes hard copy and soft), multiple plans submitted, responses to multiple government (local, state and federal) inquiries, required testing and retesting on sinking models, software simulations, required multiple site visits during the process(at the ship, the sinking site), radar scanning and soil testing at/from the sinking site multiple times during different seasons and time of day/month. Labor to prep for sinking; removing cable, wire, lead based paint, asbestos wrapped pipes, non support walls, infrastructure, fuel, oil and other petroleum by-products, machinery, corrosive materials deemed not habitat friendly. Fees; various transportation, hauling, storage, explosives, towing, site prep, multiple insurance coverage for different stages of the process including prior, during and after the sinking. That about covers it, salaried/hourly compensation not covered.

  • @danmart9087
    @danmart9087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you sink it so deep? 145 feet deep is beyond alot of divers skill

    • @danmart9087
      @danmart9087 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to be a diver. It sits in 165 feet of water. That is not for the average diver. I did not say or mean to say you sunk it. You better learn to read and comprehend what you reading as well know what you are talking about

  • @mrpagrant
    @mrpagrant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone else notice that she seems to have lost one of the large radar dishes between the surface of the ocean and the bottom? lol

    • @arnaldovinagre4350
      @arnaldovinagre4350 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed, I was wondering myself.... It must have fallen down....

    • @Ksav_Cam
      @Ksav_Cam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      mrpagrant they both have fallen on to the deck

    • @BradyT918
      @BradyT918 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could always watch it happen here th-cam.com/video/kfCQC9Nkj4Y/w-d-xo.html

  • @CrisisGuildWOW
    @CrisisGuildWOW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never made sense to me to sink a ship so people could explore it. Like wouldn't it be much easier to explore it if it were still afloat?

    • @jurgenkoks9142
      @jurgenkoks9142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This isnt the point though :D read the desciption of the video : In her last mission as an artificial reef, this massive ship is already attracting a variety of fish and other marine life. Now, natural resources managers are trying to determine what impact this artificial reef has on fish populations and the health of the surrounding natural reefs.

    • @JohnSmith-gb5vg
      @JohnSmith-gb5vg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure that would cost several hundred thousand annually to do that. Based on current floating museums (battleships, submarines, etc.), annual cost. The curator of the battleship New Jersey has a TH-cam channel and wow! Very labor intensive($) to keep her afloat as a museum. I don’t think she would get the same number of visits as that ship so she would run into a deficit pretty quick.

    • @CrisisGuildWOW
      @CrisisGuildWOW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnSmith-gb5vg but that supports my point. They aren't sinking it so people can explore it, they are sinking it because it's too costly to maintain. Besides, being underwater severely limits how many people CAN explore it now. If it's because of cost or to create reef, they should say so, and don't make up bogus excuses like it's for exploration.

    • @sloopcamotop502
      @sloopcamotop502 ปีที่แล้ว

      How TF is someone going to explore it underwater if it isn't underwater?
      "New York is great but if it was Topeka it would be cheaper, and the history would be easier for me to understand. I mean for real why didn't they just make it Topeka, and then there also wouldn't have been so much crime. WTF, some people are so stupid."

  • @leeanne4638
    @leeanne4638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AHHHH ATTRACTING FISH LIFE,IS THAT HOW YOU JUSTIFY POLLUTING THE OCEAN?-GOTCHA NOW😰

    • @h.db.9684
      @h.db.9684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ship is cleaned of toxic materials before sinking, a process which ususally costs more than simply scrapping it. Lots of laws and regs have to be followed.

    • @sloopcamotop502
      @sloopcamotop502 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please define "POLLUTING" Leanne. While doing so, can you ensure that you don't also meet your own definition of polluting?
      Respectfully Signed,
      Every Person You Have Polluted With Your Very Existence.

  • @raymondscottbehnoud8986
    @raymondscottbehnoud8986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    💙💙💙🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹👣👣

  • @baywoof
    @baywoof ปีที่แล้ว

    I spent a month on her in Key West getting her ready to sink.

  • @mitchell3306
    @mitchell3306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always want to sacrifice the sports fisherman because they can't fight back like big fishing companies

  • @meghansmith-ragle9167
    @meghansmith-ragle9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mom came to america on this boar when she was a baby!

  • @bcfairlie1
    @bcfairlie1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She ain't pretty but she is a long serving hero.

  • @alpteknbaser7773
    @alpteknbaser7773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🇺🇲🦅🇬🇧❤️👍

  • @Neonbiker
    @Neonbiker ปีที่แล้ว

    To bad it was not saved all history this ship had .. 😢.. oh well

  • @danclayberger770
    @danclayberger770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All this concern about a "clean" ship being sunk to make a new artificial reef. What about the thousands of cargo ships military's ships and planes sunk during the first and second world wars ? And the nuclear bombs. I guess that was to long ago to matter.,.,.,.,.

    • @rockym2931
      @rockym2931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are right to point that out. It is a good idea to do it cleanly if
      you do it on purpose, especially near a reef system. But people still
      dump lots of trash into the oceans while they are toothbrushing
      an artificial reef.

    • @JohnSmith-gb5vg
      @JohnSmith-gb5vg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Understand your point but most if not all (pacific losses excluded) were sunk too deep to be reefs and, yes they are polluting the seabed, which, not much can be done about removing the oil from the leaking fuel tanks due to the depth. As for the Nuclear testing, the saltwater actually contains and dilutes the radiation. Studies at the Trinity site(can only dive for so long) reveal substantial reduction in radiation levels and sea life is flourishing (yes they capture and test for radiation effects).

    • @sloopcamotop502
      @sloopcamotop502 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next time we are being attacked we should board their ships to clean them before we sink them, I agree. Where were smart people like you during WWII? Gosh it's so simple.

  • @wilsongarland7893
    @wilsongarland7893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a cause of Sea Rise!

  • @davidanderson1889
    @davidanderson1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine the bridges that could be built with the steel that ship is made with ! But oh well, I suppose we can always buy more steel from China, so what need is there for the countless thousands of tons of steel the Navy sends to the bottom of the sea every year.

    • @Neonbiker
      @Neonbiker ปีที่แล้ว

      Well most steel in general comes from China Origin wise

  • @MsDenver2
    @MsDenver2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man thinking they know best again , if God want metal ships as reefs He would have created them .

    • @davidgabrielsen9645
      @davidgabrielsen9645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean he did. Or else God would have stopped them. Why can’t man be instruments in God’s hands? It’s like saying, if God wanted music he would have created it

    • @Guest4465
      @Guest4465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The reason we are sinking ships to make artificial reefs is because most natural reefs are dying so why not make new ones while the natural reefs have a chance to heal

    • @shadowbandit3975
      @shadowbandit3975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well God created man, so its basically the same thing.

    • @heathbradshaw8301
      @heathbradshaw8301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @donna Adam’s seriously your ignorance or stupidity surprises me

  • @theenchiladakid1866
    @theenchiladakid1866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HaHaHa win the cold war

  • @scotte2815
    @scotte2815 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We've become a nation of idiots!
    Surrounded by many nations that are hostile to us, we choose to take excellent steel that could be recycled into industry, and military uses and what do we do?
    We spend HUGE chunks of money and expend HUGE numbers of man-hours and sink it into the ocean. And then we have to listen to people rationalize this in the terms of enriching a small number of peoples play time.
    I like sinking ships for reefs, but let's sink crappy ships. That sort of steel is NEEDED in industry.

    • @JohnSmith-gb5vg
      @JohnSmith-gb5vg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We out-expensed our cost for scrapping these type of ships, in the US. It would have cost millions more to scrap it here in the US if you could find a salvage yard that had the space, people and time to handle that. Sending it to a foreign scrap yard (normal process), they would not sell the recovered metals back to us.