The Best TV and Speaker Setup for Your Bedroom

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[@Nikita-P]

Thank you for this topic, we
Find my child or us watching more and more content in the master bedroom. I age a Sonls Amp and some B&W satellites form a few systems ago, and a push pull 8” sub we ended up disconnecting for the boom is not working at night
My headboard is very padded. Also the subwoofer we need in the bedroom is quite small. But now I want to go for L&R in ceiling,
Trying to see if we studies would allow a center that’s going to be actually center of the Trey ceiling.

[@38special4ever]

I use a 5.1 system with two surround speakers, aimed straight up into the ceiling.. works surprisingly well!

[@Masterslessons]

Where are these surround speakers placed? On your fronts? 😅

[@Masterslessons]

🎉congrats

[@38special4ever]

@@Masterslessons They are laying on their back on pedistals (cd racks). Two feet up on each side of the bed, and about 1.5 feet behind the MLP.

[@MattyDaddy14]

The best solution I’ve come up with is to get one of those “behind the couch” tables that are around 60-73” wide but only 7”-9” deep. Then push headboard up against that. That should give about 7-12” depth! 🎉

[@Masterslessons]

Hi Mr Poe. Thanks as always. Is there a way to give you donations directly, like pay pal or any other ways added to your website, or socials? Thanks. I wish to show some appreciation and sure many others do. Have a great week

[@PoesAcoustics]

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[@MrFallred]

Appreciate it

[@JCOTV]

I did the exactly for my rear surrounds, elevated but aiming a little downwards so it doesn't gets so harsh at me , still a work in progress. But in that same situation what do you think of the rear heights? I'm planning for next year get those Atmos modules (Klipsch rp500sa 2) on the ceiling, separated like your rears and aiming at my only row.

[@jglaserbot]

There was a recent TH-cam discussion about new televisions. One of the topics was with the newer 98” and above televisions now coming out at very affordable prices is there any reason to go with a projector and screen. The speaker was on the side of that he felt with the quality of picture performance at those sizes would make projectors and screens obsolete. My response was that the large tvs around 100” create a compromise that you can’t place the center speaker where it should go and you end up having to either placing it on the floor or very low or above the screen all of which isn’t conducive to a great audio experience. I said with a projector I can use a perforated screen to which allows me to place the LCR behind the screen and at ear level. I can also order a custom sized screen that fits perfectly in the space. I can also choose to have a wide 2:35.1 for example to display many movies in their original aspect ratio or I can choose a regular 16x9 screen to display all content and then use masking to cover the black areas whereas most tvs displaying a wider screen image are going to show the black bars and once you notice it you see it all the time. I also mentioned that those larger tvs are a pain to get into the home and if it has to up or down stairs good luck because it’s not fun. With a projector if I decide to move the system to a different room or I move and the screen no longer fits the space it’s fairly easy to sell the screen and buy a new one that fits the space. So basically my point was like you said there are going to be compromises with any system but to say projectors and screens are soon going to be obsolete was a ridiculous statement and in todays world we have more options than ever before so that anyone can get something they will really enjoy and not be stuck in the one box fits all scenario.

[@PoesAcoustics]

Screens and projectors aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. First, 98” is dinky by most theater standards now. It’s become so common to go much larger.
The sound quality difference isn’t small. It’s very large. And for picture quality, in a dedicated light controlled room, the difference isn’t what people think. The LCD or LED doesn’t look vastly superior. Yes for the cost of a 98” lcd a projector won’t compare. But that’s because they cost more. However at that $15k to $30k range, each has some picture advantages.

[@BFArch0n]

Why have a center at all? Phantom center ftw

[@adamjj85]

Interesting note on the angles. If Dolby didn't intend to use angles, then what is their ideal guidance for placing speakers?

[@Masterslessons]

Make a 3D half dome around your listening room. put speakers on a plane and mimic that to the top layer. All speakers angled to the main listening position. Forget what Dolby says and doesn't say.

[@PoesAcoustics]

So the Dolby Engineers we talked with suggested the angles reflect large zones. And placement is based on these zones. It’s what we developed in RP22. When we presented the idea, they indicated it was in line with their original concept.
It’s not that angles don’t matter at all. It’s that the angles can be a lot looser than people think and still be ok. Angles were deemed easier for market acceptance, but passionate end users went nuts and became angle Nazis. They misunderstood what the angles actually meant in practice. I still fret over speaker locations with folks. But it’s not about precisely hitting an angle, it’s about getting speakers in each zone to minimize/balance the splay angle between speakers.

[@PoesAcoustics]

I’ve covered this a number of times and want to keep saying it. I am not sure what people think Aiming does. But similar to an over focus on angles, there is suddenly an over-focus in aiming. Aiming is not a bad thing, but it has no impact on the spatial resolution or angular resolution of a system. It simply maintains a more similar HF response across channels. Depending on the speaker design, this can matter more or less. Many speakers with very wide dispersion would not benefit from aiming. Others may benefit, but the difference is very small. Still others would have real issues if not aimed. It’s more about understanding the speakers.
Grimani speakers have such wide dispersion that aiming makes nearly no difference at all. It’s largely a waste of time. Kef isn’t as wide dispersion but it is very wide. They too don’t benefit too much from aiming. The wides are really the only ones that matter and still not as much as people think. Even with my Perlisten, it is about 1.5dB above 7khz aimed vs not. And that’s the only difference. The sound doesn’t perceptibly change. Panning coherence doesn’t improve.

[@snowboarderrx]

why are your rear surrounds. off centre?

[@Masterslessons]

Studs I would assume

[@PoesAcoustics]

So long story short, the speaker locations were decided around a symmetric room layout. That was the original plan. Then when designing the front baffle wall (after surround locations were set), my carpenter pointed out that the baffle wall needed to shrink quite a lot to clear a closet door for the equipment room. He suggested I shift the room over 6 inches. The rear surrounds ended up off center to the screen because I kept the projector and treatments centered to the screen. But speakers are centered to the room.
It actually matters very little. Our spatial resolution behind us is very poor. Around 30 degrees between speakers is more than adequate to resolve movement around the area behind us. So a 2 degree shift is nothing of consequence. It just looks funny.