Roger Mayer 456-HD 500 Series Tape Emulation Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I review the highly rated Roger Mayer 456-HD tape emulators in 500 Series format. These are incredibly useful modules for mixing. Drums and vocals sounds amazing through them and that is shown in this review.
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Whoa, these are kinda doing the thing I had hoped my Neve 542s would do. The saturation sounds awesome!
Wow that's a bold statement- now I am intrigued! (I also had a 542, it was nice but not $800 nice).
"In this video..." most perfectly pitched B note I ever heard in speech. Also I really enjoy the vids. Good stuff.
Haha ill take that
Roger is a family friend going to send this to him now!! My father played in the wailers with Bob Marley and him and Roger brought that sound to the exodus album which received album of the century.. Roger gear is still very special to this day I love his 456HD and you have to check out his latest invention called the Dottore please check out his new
Indeed Roger is a legend! My personal favorite gear designer. I have a Dottore and the new Mastering 456HD unit with the VU meters etc shipping today. Hyped for them big time.
with the kind of marketing that Roger suggests, we'll see a Dottore demo in 2044 ((
I need to get my hands on more of his gear. Very special equipment designer. Tell him we need more reviews of gear on TH-cam. I hear so many people myself included say I'd love to get one I just can't find any valid reviews on TH-cam that show me how good it is. I end up having to buy one to find out. Here to do reviews if he needs them.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio I will definitely speak with him would love to send him your info as well what’s the best email to reach you?
@@rorytruestory thank you. Contact Info is studio@audioanimals.co.uk
Amazing!!! Really wanted this... heard and seen so much of every other analogue tape emulator but have always seen this on pro audio websites and had no recommendations to go off other than one person saying once "yeah their good" lol... thank you!
Yeah I had the exact same experience. Nothing online that was a valid user review and an opinion on using it. They are great for mixing just not my cuppa tea for mastering.
Wow not many video's on these. Iam a simple old school 90s style hip hop sample beats and I ve had these for 2 weeks know. I put them at the end of my chain before I hit my daw and these bad boys are great. Iam new to analoge world and have no idea what Iam doing but when it sounds good I go with it.
They are perfect for that use. If it sounds good roll with it.
To use an old term, it gave the track a good Rogering.
Certainly can when pushing the input
😂@@AudioAnimalsStudio
You reviewed them, cheers mate.
I'm taking them out this chain. So before I do I wanted to get a review recorded.
Hi AA, I like dark mixes, or rarely like the effect of treble boosts. That said I don’t want dullness. So far had little luck with saturation, any EQ plugin and limited success with some outboard EQ. These might be a great solution for me, since they seem to lift, rather than skew the balance. I’d use these as an EQ basically.
I’d want to use them on my mix buss too, but are you of the mind thats not a good idea? Or were you comments exclusively about mastering?
Cheers- keep up the good work!
GRiFF
On the mix bus they will work well. The issue with mastering is too much input. You get too much of that tape saturation and the song starts to sound squashed. Over the mix bus you can adjust this well and use it to great effect. My comments are exclusive to mastering.
Sounds amazing.
Animal you should compare these with the Neve’s and the HRK’s The Tape shootout. It would be cool
If I ever get my hands on all 3 at the same time I will 100%
@@AudioAnimalsStudio it will awesome Paul please :)
Hi! I hear people saying they're close to the Neve 542's, and i really want to like the Neve 542's, but on every review of them i feel so underwhelmed of their sound. So subtle and even a bit muddy imo. These on the other hand always surprise me in how pleasant they sound. Am i just being fooled by the top end lift these have, or do they really sound different over all? It's hard to tell through a video, but the more vids i see, the more i'm leaning towards getting a stereo pair of these in stead of the Neves. I would mainly use them for mixbus/drumbus purposes. What would you recommend? :)
These have much more of the tape sound to them. The 542s are good but certainly not as unique at the 456s. I would highly recommend these over the 542s for a unique tape sound.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Thanks for the quick reply man! i'mma just commit then, definitely getting a pair of these :)
Hey dude, I like the sound. Where in the chain would you place it?
I played around it at different stages in the chain and always found in either best at the very start to set the tone or at the end to add to the final sound.
Sounds good, I was looking at these for a while, but always hear a slight grainy aspect added to the sound I don’t like. I wish more hardware would add a mix knob. I am using the Maag EQ4M for similar sort of air this gives
Yes a mix knob would be ideal for these. I contemplated getting an external parallel mix unit to use with it. Would just allow you to blend in with the right amount of tape saturation.
Thanks!
"You can achieve that sound with other tools in the mastering world" I'm DYING to know what this would be! Neve 542, HRK st552, Roger Mayer 456, Zulu 500, Bereich Density, they're ALL 500-series, leaving only the Anamod ATS-1.
All the above plus the new McDSP tape module for APB.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio McDSP APB looks fire! Too bad it's Mac only :/ I assume that's what you use? You mentioned you got rid of all 500's in your chain, I concur, so I'm torn about hardware tape emulation... "All of the above" are all unganged 500's with unstepped pots, a worst-case for mastering. Let alone potential raised noise floor, gain staging issues etc.
Seems like the industry's biggest oversight to not have a full rack box with stepped or at least detended stereo-ganged controls for a quality tape emulation.
So which to get these or the RND 524s? The functionality is near identical apart from silk. Question is which pair match best and have the least noise impact,
The 542's have more features. Silk, Ips select and wet dry mix. The 456-HD has the bias which does sound nice. Similar in some ways to silk red. The noise floor is better on the 542's for mastering. Noise floor is equal if you are using a good amount of input on the 456-HD.
Man I love your channel but in the same time hurts me every time i open yours videos....anyway thank you to make dream
Haha sorry. I know that feeling.
Had a pair and was very unimpressed. Made a little distortion but so does about 10 other hardware devices I have. I didn't hear anything close to the sound of tape.
I like it on the voice
I really liked how if you wanted to you could get a really nice saturated distorted sound when driven hard.
Did you check the Half Rack Version of the 456 HD? why did u prefer this one?
I'd prefer the other one. Just difficult to get your hands on.
AUDIO ANIMALS STUDIO, What is the difference between using a compressor compared to using the Roger Mayer 456 HD tape emulators?
I find the two very different. I guess you could describe this kind of tape compression as a lot rounder.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio So its like a compressor with a side chain EQ?
Finally !
Wow this sounds amazing! I just bought two Rupert neve 542 tape emulators I’m trying to use them as stereo for mixing but for some reason I can only use one at a time I got one going into inserts 3/4 in my audio interface and the other one going into inserts 5/6 idk what I’m doing wrong can u please help me I will appreciate it 🙏
These are quite similar to the 542s in some ways. You have silk textures on the 542 which are brilliant. What you are doing wrongs seems to be that you have a mono unit on a stereo channel. Put 1 542 on insert 3 and the other 542 on insert 4. Then when you use the insert left will be channel 3 and right will be channel 4. Hope this helps.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio thank you so much that really helped out I’m new to this usually I do everything in the box but now I’m getting into buying some analog gear. 🙏
This or 542? Maybe both, that silk is indespensible.
@Rhuggins I would much prefer the 542s. These will work with every other audio source, whereas the 542s will work with almost everything.
These are not tape emulators. They are tape to CD conversion emulators as far as I remember the theory behind them is that music recording sounded best when tape recordings were converted to 16/44.1 cd.
Somebody might correct me on some and/or all of this. My memory has seen better days.
In any event, thats why I bought them some time ago and they are "life giving" tools for recording and mixing.
They are branded as tape emulators/simulators
Is more a air band than tape saturator kkkkkkkk
Yes that's more how I saw it too. The amount you input dose add a tape like effect but the bias can certainly be seen as an air band
it really sounds like that, but actually when pushed it definitely resembles what my ReVox A77 does but without all the crazy hassle inherent to tape machines
That's not at all how tape sounds. I've worked on Studers, Otaris, and Ampexs with BASF and Quantegy tape. Those are overpriced BBE SonicMaximizers in a 500 Series format.
Btw, can you start shooting 4k videos ? hd is kinda oldschool these days.
4K is for try hards. Real men upload at 480p.
@@RealHomeRecording 360p 96kbs
Can’t see how 4k would make a huge difference to video that’s 99% about the audio content anyway. But it would put lot more overhead on the editing process I expect.
@@infojunkie4989 for the same reason you watch porn in 4k
@@infojunkie4989 not to mention 4x the amount of hard drive space.
Now where talking nothing like it on the planet
NOT FOR MASTERING??? Haha Many people are getting this for Mastering
They'll learn after a while it's not for mastering. The input needs to be too low for mastering and the noise floor because of it is too loud. You can hear this quite clear when pushing these examples.
@@AudioAnimalsStudioGot it. Thanks
@@AudioAnimalsStudioI just got them.. for Mixing I meant. Wow they are beautiful..
@LosFicosMusic yes for mixing, they are incredible.
@@AudioAnimalsStudioThere is a 456HD-M (mastering version) coming!