The Jury results of Eurovision 2023
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The full jury results at the Grand Final of Eurovision 2023, from Liverpool Arena.
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The greeks juries not giving 12 points to Cyprus was ICONIC
I screamed of excitement 😂 I m greek
35:25 the audience reaction 😂
@@johny7even EXCITEMENT??? I was livid. Twelve Points to Cyprus is our thing!! And if Cyprus had been given more than a six they would have made it into the top ten!
You should go see the comments. Sort them by most recent. Every recent one that's in Greek is basically apologising for the jury no giving 12 points😂 Unforgettable, for sure, but for the Greeks it won't be for the reason you think. Especially because Cyprus this year had an objectively pretty good song and the tepevote gave 12 points too Cyprus as always.
Everyone in the cinema with me was so confused lmfao
Well we give 12 ….they booo us… we give 4 they still booo us.
Next time tell us the number you will be ok with that.
Time Greece to leave ….perfect timing !!!
As Italy did ….Turkey and many other countries.
I really wanna know where do juries go when Moldova performs. And it happens EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
They are afraid of them winning. This year Moldova was ❤
This year moldova was disappointing imo
@Fc Edits at least they were different, no gay extravaganza or nearly naked women
Same question!
Just because they sing in Romanian they get laughed at and treated as a joke entry for no reason. Same with Albania and other countries. I am so tired of the juries being so biased and voting the same way every year
35:25 the moment everyone was disappointed that Greece did NOT give 12 points to Cyprus was hilarious 😂
Because our juries are very corrupt and they should be fired. This is a shame for our country because we Greeks always give a 12 to Cyprus 🇬🇷♥️🇨🇾
@@user-sk8bi5we6d they are corrupt for always giving their 12 points to Cyprus. Not the other way around. I’m happy they didn’t do it. Next up San Marino & Italy and all the Scandi countries 😅
@@user-sk8bi5we6dand that in itsself isn't corruption?! 😂
There's no point being a part of a contest if you're just reserving the 12 points to a neighbouring country EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
It's a song contest, not a 'please your neighbours' contest.
@@AmaanStorm ok then Norway Sweden and Finland should also not be part of ESC because they to give each other 12 points. Wether you like it or not, neighbourimg countries always give each other points because of shared similarities. Greek and Cyprus are not exceptions 🇬🇷♥️🇨🇾
Slovenia 0 points to croatia, not possible
I don't have a problem with loreen winning the jury vote, but she was 150 points ahead of everyone and the gap was too big
Doubled the second, just enough to be 1 point above Finland even if Finland got máximum televote points
@@geminix365 that’s a bit suss isn’t it so even Max televote points he still wouldn’t win kinda like it was planned..
EBU were scared Finland would win can’t have that when it’s abba anniversary next year right?
Robbed king 🇫🇮💚
@@kimslice9993 TOO SUS and precise to secure swedisht win
@@kimslice9993 Benjamin Ingrosso himself with a whispering got more points at juries that Italy ever did, even 50 more than when Maneskin won
The average point difference between first and second place of the jurys votes over the years have been around 23 points. This year it was randomly 170 points. Not obvious at all that something didn't go like it should
Normal Jury : 12 points goes to...
Iceland Jury : AUWSTRAILIYAH!!!!!!!!!
It's not the jury. It's Hatari 😈
@@mishynaofficial HATRID MUN SIGRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he was so cool
Normal Jury: Sweden / Israel/ Italy
Belgium: AUSTRIA 😂
@@nitex4193 Watch Eurovision 2019 Iceland for more of him ;)
26:31 31:53 36:14 37:48 39:30 the audience went absolutely crazy for Finland 🇫🇮
🤘🟢🟢😈🟢🟢🤘
I'm gonna cry 😭, this is heartbreaking...❤💚💔
These are fake sounds dummy
Absolutely 💚
And I don't understand why...not so cool song, not original performance...we have been seen already smth like this...and vocal not so good..trash🤷♀️
THANK YOU
Germany last???? What a shame!!! With an outstanding vocal performance and a very impressive staging I think is crazy that the juries didn't appreciate it.
Juries nowadays are too deaf, Loreen brainwashed them to sway the Votes in her favor
Last year Germany had a good song either, but no one cared.......
Maybe you should become the jury?
Really sad, was a great song and performance and deservef a top 10 place. Greetings from Austria
People votes also didn't appreciate 😂
Never have I ever heard anything like this in the eurovision, the crowd was crazy over cha cha cha!! It says it all. He is our winner, the public’s winner. 💚💚
🧢
And yet not the actual winner that actually matters ;)
I have
Australia's both 12 points were my favorite moments, the band looked very surprised and happy! They definitely thought that it wouldn't happen at all 😍
Yeah they we're eating the first time they got the points ahahhahahahha
@@irenedf9325 Yeah that was iconic. And they celebrated their low televote points wildly, too. A great example how to enjoy the contest and not to take it too seriously.
true!! is lovely to see them :D
They are already a big band. Doesnt matter to them
🇵🇹❤️🇦🇺
Am I the only one that absolutely loved Slovenia?? This was so disappointing 😭
Slovenia and Croatia kinnda robved each other by the juries.
I loved Slovenia, they were my favorite. And yes it was disappointing😢. 🇳🇱🤝🇸🇮
Me too🇫🇮🤝🇸🇮
It was my brothers favorite
I LOVED Slovenia. Immediately added that song to my playlist. So good! Much love from Croatia🇭🇷❤️🇸🇮
Slovenia was also my favourite 😢
Why do we spend 40 minutes in Jury vote and only 15 min in Public vote? Public vote is more important. Give voice to the people
Exactly
I think it’s because it takes time counting the votes.. but I agree, the public votes are more important in my opinion
It SHOULD be more important, but apparently not. Even though the public are the ones paying to vote :(
There is no better way to do it, I'm afraid. Votes need to be counted and verified and you don't want everyone to have to watch each country giving points twice.
@@wonderlanddreamer1021why not switch it around? Give the points of the public one by one and announce their 12 points, and then quickly give the jury vote all at once like they do with the public now
Difference of almost double amount of points between first and second place after jury votes. This is a bad joke.
They should have just declared them the winner once the spread was too great. What's the point in dragging it out??
@@TheAlps36 suspense obviously and good TV. Ending the show just like that doesn't work with ratings. And yes I couldn't tell who was winning till the end of televotes.
Well, various reasons. And I guess runner-ups have a right to know how much points they amassed.
I genuinely cannot understand how the "professionals" thought that Loreen was so much better than anyone else.
Guys, I think we found answer why the Sweden was defacto pre-chosen. Shortly: 2024 will be ABBA's 50th anniversary of winning the ESC for the first time.
00:48
2023: “They love you Martin”
2024: Boos and disapproval to him was so loud that he couldn’t speak
Wow, didn't expect Jury to win this year! Didn't even know about this country before! Congrats, truly the most underrated one❤
what?
@@LIN-ek5dw that's a sarcasm
Ikr! Sweden is always the underdog every year, great to see them subvert expectations :) /s
😂😂😂😂
We need to know more about these winners. I want the juries to be interviewed!
The Jury’s are on some strong drugs
Actually I think he sido very good with the juries. The guy was fun but couldnt even sing
@@erickraulgonzalezmoreno6353 Eurovision is not just about the voice. Almost everyone love him. End of the story
@@erickraulgonzalezmoreno6353 he is a rapper mainly. You know rappers are musicians too right?
@@grimi595 🤗
@@danieldani3630 🤗
4th time in 8 years juries decided who is the winner of the song contest.. It's so sad 😢 200+- juries >>> millions people
It is not fair😢😢😢
Hey but since 2017 the jury winner wasn’t first placed, that means the televote had the last word. 😃
So unfair Why do you pay money ??
But on the other hand the televoters gave the jury winner enough points to win the contest overall. So you can’t solely blame it on the juries even though I get your point.
bc there are a lot of people who vote politically,thats why you need the juries
In my opinion the jury system is outdated at this point. Why should a handful of people get to dish out half the points for a public event? Sure, maybe there should be some amount of "professional" input to make sure that the quality of the songs still gets judged a little more objectively, but in a televised event with nearly 200 million people watching, shouldn't those people get to have more of a say in who wins? It definitely needs to be changed. I'm not saying it needs to be removed, but definitely reworked, because it's not really fair right now.
I agree completely!
Agree
Agreed, Jury votes should not have this much impact anymore in this day and age.
As always the system is unfair when the fan favourite is hurt by it.
If Kaarija won the show, people wouldn't be complaining.
@@luchoney5868 I mean yes, if the jury voted kinda like the public then the public would not feel robbed. That's the point
As a Finn, I never felt that feeling before, when people shouted Käärijä ja Cha Cha Cha. I can't describe that feeling, but thanks to all of you supporting Käärijä. Finland is the real winner!💚💚
Sweden is the real winner 🇸🇪but we never had this aggressive fans before, chanting like that is just a lack of respect 😢
@@Dds123-l3zSo don't give the people what they want? Touche.
@@Dds123-l3z Finland is the real winner. There was huge 133 votes gap between Finland and Sweden in people votes. Never in history it's been this big and still didn't win. That tells you that Jury failed their job badly. Käärijä won people's hearts but Loreen won EBU.
got huge flashbacks from 2021 when people started shouting Finland when Blind Channel was about to go to the finals
@@Ritchietwho got the trophy though, loreen😂 and thank god she did, she’s the real winner.
The jury/public vote ratio shouldn't be 50/50. How is the opinion of 5 people have the same weight as that of hundreds of milions of people.
Musical dictatorship 🙂
You can’t let some people who got no clue about music and vocals choose the winner based on how easy it is for them to digest a song, good thing at least juries judge based on vocals
@@user-vg5fs4yc3lBut can they have so much influence on the result ?
@@krunoslavkovacec1842 yeah, juries know what good music is.
@@vikilol2757 Yes, the jury knows how the money received for voting smells. This year was one of the worst results!
"Professional" juries really combined thought Sweden was twice as good as the next best act? This year had really good quality songs, and arguable more memorable performances if you don't put weight on Loreen's name, and this is their result?
Some juries don't give any points on originlity even if one is singing in their own language.. Good to know I guess..
So happy that my country (Norway) gave Finland the 12 points, at the same time I was laughing my ass off at how shockingly little Alessandra got 😂
I'm shocked Finland gave no points to Norway, Alessandra was my favorite
For heaven's sake, Queens of Kings is a nursery rhyme with some electronic music elements!
I loved Norway, she was fantastic so catchy ❤
@@paulskyekahawaty6133 you're showing your age 😅
Yes Norway is my absolutely favorite country
I have been there many many times
But if Norway would've gave Sweden 12 points my heart would've broke
The moment that shocked Europe 35:25. 🇬🇷🇨🇾
Why????
If Athens gives 12 they boooo!
So Athens did the logical thing….to vote not as friends but as music.
@@MrKappasdio at least give 10 or 8. I think what was shocking is that it was such a low number. By all means, give the 12 where you want it to go but at least give Cyprus 10 or 8 or even 6. I don't know, for all this "we are siblings" and "we are neighbours" talk, this was a low blow from Greece...
That was great! Sweden usually always gives low jury points to Norway. So what
@@MrKappasdio nai re kalamara pou en tutos o logos😂
@@lucyscorner1894 So just because they are neighbours, they should always give each other many points? Dude, Austria didn't give Germany even 1 point the last few years and those are also neighbouring countries who speak the same language
If the juries do everything for creating such a high gap which is unrealistic to overbid what is the point of public voting? I guess it's just there to make us think we have a say. And probably the additional money...
With 0 jury votes, cha cha cha still comes second lol
@@mihaitzan "With 0 jury votes, cha cha cha still comes second lol"
A, that's just incredibly wrong, Finland recieved 376 public votes, a lot more than anyone else this year (Sweden got 243),
and B, what OP is saying is still correct, some anonymous Jury shouldn't influence this much of the vote... forget about the performances, forget about bias, phoning in and voting is kinda pointless when there THAT much of a gap
@@TDBTylerable I think they meant that even IF finland had received 0 points from the jury they would have come in second from the public score alone
@@EdolasMystogan ooooh right, derp, sorry @DeadlineToday xD
@@TDBTylerable yeah, that's what i meant ^.^
Why is Sweden always overvalued? All respect and congratulations to Loreen, but it's always them! They can sing anything with any artist they are always appreciated. I feel the same about Italy. Now if the same song were from another country, it wouldn't be so loved.
Because They Doing Every Year The Production, The Host Country Can Choose Who To Use, Swden or Germany To Do It.
The "jury" for some reason really likes generic pop songs. She was an incredible singer and performer but the song was very generic. And it seems that the jury do not care about creativity.
@@mixuaquela123 I was thinking about it
Maybe because of ABBA nostalgia and legacy.
if it was from Germany, song would receive 0 points - eternal failure
2:09 Ukraine
3:17 Italy
4:13 Latvia
5:04 Netherlands
5:41 Malta
6:32 Moldova
7:16 Ireland
8:07 San Marino
9:06 Azerbaijan
9:50 Austria
11:13 France
12:00 Finland
12:55 Belgium
13:40 Germany
14:48 Portugal
15:27 Croatia
16:08 Estonia
16:57 Armenia'
17:44 Poland
18:41 Romania
23:08 Iceland
24:14 Serbia
24:57 Cyprus
25:57 Norway
27:14 Switzerland
28:01 Australia
28:55 Denmark
29:36 Spain
30:27 Israel
31:37 Sweden
32:53 Georgia
33:47 Czechia
34:32 Slovenia
35:22 Greece
36:21 Albania
37:06 Lithuania
38:16 United Kingdom
thanks men i love you
Forget him, I love you more
@@wurfelwombat2614 no i love him more
Best comment thanks!
Legend
Australia getting 12 points from Iceland was such an iconic moment. 🤩👏🤘
@MR .TEA. Australia was awesome
Believe I woke my family up- fucking iconic
23:10 for replay purpose
I loved Australia from Finland
He gets my 6 points🇫🇮💚🇦🇺
It was so wholesome when he wasn't ready for it💚💚💚
Well deserved, they deserved more tbh!
Didn’t win a SINGLE televote while Finland won 18
Yet she finished 2nd in televotes despite the whole world knowing she is the most likely to win it, so the community loved it. And she would've done even better on televoting if she wasn't predicted to be the winner since March because then people wouldn't have seen her as a competition that shouldn't be voted for so their country has a better chance of winning.
2nd in televote, cry more
@@yeowu5066 And finland is 2nd in televote of eurovision history.
@@Navhkrin and, cool, fans should be proud and stop hating
Croatia and Germany being last is so, so wrong
No
Yes, and after people from all around the world voted they put Croatia on position nr. 7., so just few more pionts from jury will place them in top 10 total.
Germany was my 2nd fav after Finland actually. Loved em.
Absolutely!! Looks like there was very conservative persons in jury.
Hearing stuff like that makes me go *ŠČ!*
Must feel awkward to be a winner, as you kept hearing “cha cha cha” , “käärijä” throughout the night 😆😆😆. It was so loud and clear. 💚
It's not awkward, it's rude.
How can it be rude to have a favorite in a music contest???
@@grindkind502 its not rude cauz swedish victory was RIGGED
@@grindkind502How is it rude to shout out your favorite artist?
@@grindkind502 rude is when a country uses every way possible to win even when they don't deserve it. I think ebu should think to remove the privileges of Sweden
37:51 they knew that sweden will win all along. Look at how the hosts react
Not only that; the jury representatives also knew, but looked largely low-energy when dishing out 12 points to Sweden, almost as if they were ashamed of what they were doing.
Compare and contrast that with the beautiful voting sequence in 2017, with most representatives shouting the obvious winner’s name, and some of them even congratulating him personally, speaking in our rather difficult language, etc.
My take is: the jurors *did* prefer other songs over Sweden’s, but decided to vote en mass for the public’s second favorite to prevent the top one from winning. They actively disliked Käärijä’s entry and constructively voted against it.
I’m not saying they colluded to do such a thing, but if the criteria for selecting jury members is the same in all countries, it’s also predictable they think in similar ways regarding their own methods. However, some countries broke free from that and were unafraid of giving other songs higher scores.
Gosh even a Loreen journey video was prepared at this channel
Finland gives 12 points to Sweden and Sweden gives 12 points to Finland, amazing
The televote details have been revealed, and Finland sent 0 televote points to Sweden. Jeez Louise
@@LydianGang where did you see this?
@@LydianGang Damn that's actually sad then. But not surprising.
@@LydianGang yes, I heard there was some sort of unofficial campaign in a desperate attempt to gain advantage. Sad, but made the win even more satisfying. 🎉
Sweden to Finland: jury 12 points - public 12 points = 24
Finland to Sweden: jury 12 points - public 0 points = 12
There are people who think Cha cha cha is the real winner and there are people who lie.
Sweden in ESC 2024: be silent and do nothing three minutes straight
Juries: 12 points go to Sweden
Sweden: doesn't even send a contestant
Jury: 12 points go to Sweden
cry more😂😂
@@Kevin-dm7tk Average iq of Sweden enjoyer. They cant even put arguments, just like their winner cant put forth original song
Why are ya’ll getting so worked up about the winner? Just cuz your country didn’t win doesn’t mean you can just go and make fun of other countries 💀 I get that there are other countries that you think did better but that’s not how it works here
@@Nezuko_766 its not pôking fun of the country. but the juries always give Sweden a lot of points
I love Australia reactions. They’re so positive and grateful 😅❤ I’m happy my country gave them 12 points.
It's so sad that it's only the jury voting. I want to see the reactions for the tele voting. It is much more interesting to see the Televoting for each country with the reactions.
And their pizza 🍕 looked so tasty 😋
@@Ziagl There is the other video on the Eurovision official channel too.
Finland being so close to Sweden who got half of their points with the fame after their first win… unfair and unacceptable. The public shouting the name and Cha Cha Cha will not be forgotten. This will be remembered in the history of this so-called “Contest”. Keep rocking, Finland, you legend!
How is it unacceptable when the rules are 50% jury and 50% public?? If you don’t like the rules, don’t play the game!!
@@SexyGreek26 We know how she got her points and why they wanted her to win. I will play the game as long as it’s a fair game.
@@SexyGreek26 yes, i'm not watching till they change the system
it is farily rules,
For as long as Sweden is producing the contest every year, this will happen often.
The jurys trying to be "safe" with their image and giving Loreen's more generic song all those twelves rather than spreading the votes between all the great shows gave away Finland's slight possibility to win the contest, have to say that's super sad to see
Yes… and it’s ABBA’s 50th anniversary next year, must be nice to have sweden host the eurovision then… it probably impacted to the jury’s votes
Is it really that hard to believe that they just liked hers more? I liked hers more
@KHDude look at the numbers. This isn't about liking it more. Finland got 18x 12 points, and 9x 10 points from the public. Sweden got ZERO 12 points and 8x 10 points. The jury didn't just like Sweden more, they were severely biased toward her.
this jury vote actually made sense from a rock/metal loving country
@@KHCoasterKid she was the better singer. The jury also choose the UK last year as it should, but the public sympathy voted Ukraine. The public won't vote for the best song/singer. They want to most flamboyant and crazy performance. The public votes needs to be abolished.
The fact that the guy swinging the hammer thing in hatari's performance came back to be a jury for Iceland is everything
He wasnt a Jury he was just the jury score announcer
@@benjamingumundsson4397 I'm not much into eurovision so I could be wrong but didn't the announcer also part of the juries?
@@NERDY_Rick they can be, but very often they are just some popular personality.
@@benjamingumundsson4397 yeah I meant that. Either way it still surprised me
@@benjamingumundsson4397 I see! Thanks
Shame for the juries for pushing Loreen to the award despite the whole arena shouting for another artist. The most awkward win of the last few years, but fortunately the audience has chosen the real winner. 💚💚💚
Jury evaluate different things compared to the public, the public tend to support the circus performances or the most "enterteinment" performances, also Loreen finish second in the televote, is not like people didn't like it.
Juries are supposed to ignore public opinion and vote based on their own criteria...
@@gule55 So why did you vote last year for Ukraine and not Sweden if that's what you say it would be the opposite... it's really nonsense their choices... In addition to Sweden last year was much better than this year... but the juries vote for Ukraine in 2022 and there they vote a winner who has already won and who is pampered by the juries
@@seikoZ. Неправда! Україна минулого року перемогла не у журі, а завдяки рекордній кількості глядацьких голосів!🤪
@@WealthyandNerdy except public doesn't always vote for "good" songs or "quality" songs...I mean Croatia made it through...like it or not, joke act...juries are there as a "check" on the viewers...making sure that songs like that NEVER win...are you going to tell me that Poland being 8th was right???... I bet you are one of those people that think Poland sucks...
For all the televotes Finland got from thousands of people, the jury really made us feel small and insignificant.
*millions o.o
@@vongroger8965 No that does not make sense.
@@vongroger8965 by reducing their %
The show was so much better in 2000s when there was no jury. Just friendly countries voting their neighbors, but somehow it all worked, the votes cancelled out and the overall best song won! Now the winner is simply selected by a bunch of old people.
You should. The song is awful.
It's 50th anniversary of AbbA win next year so you know what country jury wants to host it! Jury votes was total...you know what..
so lame
@SeverK maybe so but if thats the criteria to choose winner why even do it as a competition at the first place!
If I had been in the jury 1974 with the actual system, I would have awarded 12 points to Italy and 10 points to Sweden. Fun fact : that year, among the very few countries who didn't give any point to ABBA, were United Kingdom (who won the Waterloo Battle in 1815) and Belgium (where the battle raged) !
Is this Abba anniversary such big of a deal that they needed to plan everything one year in advance? I am sure whole Europe doesn't care about it. They votes this year were m embarrassing
I do love Loreen's song but I didn't feel the same wow feeling tonight as I felt when seeing it in melodifestivalen. I guess it became a bit something I've seen too many times. I just felt that there were many other cool acts like Spain, Armenia, Lithuania and yes Finland because it made me so happy and free of worries. Sometimes I just wish that eurovision would be won by something so so crazy and different. I do understand the power of her performance but I guess I wanted some other country and new artist to have the taste of winning. Finland just was so different and weird that I just wanted to see how Käärijä would have celebrated and how Finland would have hosted next year💚
I 100% agree, couldn't have said it better myself!!
Totally agree. Loreen's song is like refrain multipled by ten. Powerful just at first listening. Then is easily forgotten.
@@agrippastrilemma1797 jag vet
our national host said 'she has already won a prize with her song and is on top in the bookmakers, she probably thinks she's gonna win anyway that's why she's not trying as hard' I also think she had a cold or something? She sounded hoarse
Armenia and Israel❤❤
35:20 the reaction of people when they saw Greece betrayed Cyprus😂
People in Greece are absolutely mad since then about this decision. Especially this year that the song was amazing.
Iconic😂
Our televoting gave 12 points to Cyprus 🥲
…..if we give 12 they booo Greece!
Now they are disappointed?
Well the where disappointed because we broke their party with boooos against Athens calling!!!
Well done 🇬🇷
So you are telling me that you wouldnt like the greek jury to give cyprus 12 points and get in to the topo ten?
What a undemocratic fiasco. Such a shame. It was 100% fixed to make Sweden win for next year's 50th Abba anniverasary. I mean Loreen is good but there were many equally great songs with fantastic vocal performances and solid shows. The juries ignored many of the other quality entries completely. Suspicious.
There's no democracy in this world, wake up.
Loreen is a masterpiece, Kaarja is just a fun
I have to disagree, Sweden had a really good song and performer and I can see why she won from jury votes and being the 2nd country with the most votes from the public votes after Finland.
Interests
exactly, they played it safe, 12 points to Sweden , no thinking.
@@SweetnessXoXo there is a 100 points difference in televote between Finland and Sweden. Loreen didn't won a single televote, while Finland won 18. It's totally the winner of jury. Public acknowledged her performance but that's not their winner.
That 12 points from Iceland was the best part of the whole night
Did this guy just come from a fetisch party?
By the way: Congratulations, Lord of the lost! Confidently defended the last place!
yeah that guy was so wierd
@@schnuffelduffel No he is from an icelandic named Hatari, their costumes are very cool
They attended for iceland 2019
Band*
@@jafoin2699 Ok, thank you. I didn´t know that.
So that's his workwear, then?
We need juries like Switzerland. Last year giving 12 points to Greece and this year to Czechia. They look at things more professionally
Switzerland being neutral
They have enough money already so they had no interest in letting Sweden buy their votes
And 0 points for Finland 🇫🇮 definitely we all need more juries like Switzerland 🇨🇭
Why is it that half of the countries didn't reward Finland with any jury point? 3 out of the 4 criteria are a solid 12 points each, if you like the song or not.
Criteria:
"The jurors will be ranking the scores based on the following criteria:
-composition and originality of the song
-quality of the performance on stage
-vocal capacity of the performer(s)
-overall impression of the act"
Source: Eurovoix
They tend to only vote for ballads and disgregard other genres of music.
Maybe because Finland’s song is mostly about performance, but at the song level… let’s be honest, there were performers with way more powerful voices and melodic songs. And I totally understand that the public must have seen Finland’s song as very original and cool, but the juries are usually way more conservative and prefer more standard songs in which the contestants can demonstrate clearly their singing abilities
@@ingetamm7951 There were contestants with better vocals (Loreen good performer but she is not strong in the low notes while singing) but still 3 other criteria remain..
Yes, how is Loreens basic pop the most original 🤣
Sry? Hahah vocal? 😅lets face it, fun performance but the song has nothing else than a "cha cha cha" that its fun for the audience to shout..
The whole voting process (jury and televote) this year is a disaster and needs to be assessed and revamped.
Entries like Armenia, France, Spain and Portugal were not helped by the televote, while we all saw what happened to Finland after jury vote. I'm not a fan of Kaarija style of art but he stole the show and deserved to win, while Loreen's vocals were disappointing and definitely she would not win in any other format in the world with this performance.
youre acting like the jury system is new😭😭 people sending entries like finland KNOW that the jurys dont vote for them, so why complain about it afterwards. And regarding vocals, finland couldnt even hold a tune kn the 2nd part, so why are you coming for loreen
@@felicialulistener441 It's my first time watching the full show but I watched lots of videos from previous years, the hype for Loreen was too much, I know she is a former Eurovision winner but I didn't like the performance of this year and I still believe it's not a winning performance. About Kaarija I know he's not great vocally but the atmosphere of the song and the show is great. I was not expecting Finland to lead the jury vote but I was surprised by the gap.
@@MahmoudHAhmad then thats YOUR opinion. tatoo literally checks all jury boxes, that was clear even before the contest.
@@felicialulistener441 yeah, checks the jury boxes, still boring AF. She copied herself 🙄
@@LanaMarusic yeah sure, thats your only excuse. loreen won fair so stop being bitter omfg
that was so ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ we all know who's the REAL winner
Yes. That's Croatia
Победитель один, это Украина ...😊
@@MehmanAliyev3169 13th is fair enough for the kings
Yes. We think it's Sweden and Israel
@@user-ib3qo7sm6z As everybody said, our hearts is with Ukraine, but unfortunately, it's will be pretty boring if Ukraine win every year. Slava Ukraine ❤️
Loreen's Euphoria is one of my all time favourite Eurovision songs. Unfortunately I can't say the same about Tattoo. I like some parts of it but I've grown really tired of break-up songs. My favourites were France and Serbia. I really wanted to see Käärijä win. I may be a bit biased because I'm from Finland 😂 I think his song was very unique and managed to catch something essential about Finnish culture.. it was amazing to hear the CHA-CHA-CHA chants! 💚
Loreen was my favorite entry of eurovision, but after finland, she is but a petty thief who steals awards she never earned
Serbia here. We are so pissed how corrupt jury stole this victory from Finland! CHA CHA CHA! 🤩
I think Tattoo is about her origin and tribe, not a breakup sonh
@@ArkanMatlub03 about her origin? Tattoo is a blatant rip-off of Fireworks and a Euphoria 2 at best.
@@JayDeeIsMyName The beats a music makes does not equal to the lyrics.
Iceland's jury votes presenter was one of my favourite moments from Eurovision 2023!! so funny and I'm glad Australia got their 12 points, well deserved!
Super cool how they show off ❤️😊
the expert jury should be abolished and the audience should be allowed to choose the winner
Like last year with Ukraine. Then the deserved winner can't win
@@abey4003 Ukraine received the biggest public vote in the history. Read some lore.
yeah the audience that gave blanca paloma 5 points..the same as spain 2017???
I agree
@@DiotimaMantinea-ub6yr How awfull is that. Jann (second place on their national corumpt and setup selection) was much better choice for Eurovision.
I’m shocked that:
- Austria got only 16 points from the public. How?? 😳😮
- Armenia finished just at 14th place, wow
- Czechia got only 35 points from the public 😕
- France finished just at 16th
- Norway got only 52 points from the jury 🤔
I’m happy that:
- Estonia reached a well deserved place 😍
- And also Lithuania
I’m sad that:
- Switzerland finished at 20th place
- Finland didn’t win
I am so angro for the jury votes
I thought Australia's song was clearly the best, Finland's was a bit meh to me
Austria 🇦🇹 so badly robbed with starting position 1. Thanks to swedish EBU...
I'm shocked that the Greek jury only gave Cyprus 4 points 😮
I'm shocked how the jury voted for Poland, it's unfair and underrated
Make millions of people pay for voting, just to be overruled by a group of jurors. Way to go, ESC, way to go.
Seen the prices in the Semi Finals for my favourite country "Rest of the world"? It was about 2$ per vote and only credit cards accepted. Who is willing to pay 2$ for one single vote if there is this superpower called jury?!
In Germany we jokingly call this a “democratorship” (“Demokratur”). The people do get to vote, but in the end, the leaders just decide whatever they want anyway.
Continue to cry like a little baby because your favorite country didn’t win.
EBU should be concerned people won't be so willing to vote next year, not after this
I’d rather have a free online vote than remove the jury vote
My favorite part about the Jury vote was the Portugal giving 12 to Australia while Voyager was in the middle of munching bread :D 15:00
Maro is just really chill
But I love it
Haha
35:25 biggest shock in Eurovision in recent decades
Ok, but like, everyone in Greece is currently so ashamed, because Cyprus didn't get in the top ten for three points, which Greece could and admittedly should have given.
The public is raging, because the televote gave 12 points and noone could understand what was wrong with such a nice song to warrant giving a third of the points that are usually given.
Finally my country voting not as friends ….like the rest of Europe does!!! Bravo🇬🇷
@@MrKappasdio Ποσο φαινεται πως δεν εχεις ιδέα τι πραγματικα παιζει
The jury vote should be more balanced out. 300 points going towards ONE song when there were so many professional and quality songs this year? And France, Spain etc. getting that little? There needs to be a different approach to jury votes
To favour the songs you like? You complain that France and Spain got so little, but they got far less from the public. And quality is subjective. Not sure how a song that comes last with the televote is quality.
Oh and Loreen is the quickest char2ging winner ever so far.
@@catrionacolville2192 The public appreciates catchy, boppy, simple songs that often don't have any higer value and deeper meaning. I believe that, as this is a music contest first and foremost, the vocal capacity and vocal performance, originality of the composition, it's complexity, the variety of genres and the instrumentation should all be appreciated and ranked high. The general public does not appreciate these things but, as this is a music contest, we need an entitiy who will.
Edit: Spain was absoulutely quality and every musician and music critic would agree with that. If this contest valued the art of music more, she would've been in the top 5
spain and frances were absolute garbage tho.. spains is THE WORST in all of eurovision 2023 and france isnt much better
Ukraines 439 Points Last Year from Televote is OK tho?
The worst jury result ever! JUSTICE FOR FINLAND!
Justice for Norway-3 d televoting and 17 th jury. Shame on you, juries!
This system is a bit out of date as I personally really liked Finlands song and so did the audience (obviously), however the jury gave Sweden such a head start that despite all the votes of the public it was impossible for anyone else to win.
The system is up to date. It's just you're disappointed your winner didn't win.
@@arvinroidoatienza7082 300 points. *300* for a single act .
Reeks of corruption. They sure do want sweden to host during Abbas 50th birthday.
Surely you would love if Käärijä received *3 0 0* votes from the jury making it so that no matter what your favourite act cannot win.
Eurovision is not the 185 "Judges" contest. Its the contest for the people of the world. Käärijä won that.
@@arvinroidoatienza7082 Finland won the televotes by a massive margin. And even if they did get all of the televotes it would've still been behind Sweden. The judges secured a win for Sweden, it wasn't even a contest after the judges stacked their votes for Sweden.
Cuz Sweden was better lol
@@arvinroidoatienza7082 jury being 50% of the votes is very unfair cuz I can make the competition very unfair… Also there’s a big suspicion that Sweden paid for it since they have already paid millions of euros for ABBAvision… like how could they do that if they already didn’t know that she would win, it really could be paid for the jury part.
37:51 people chose Cha Cha Cha
38:00 Hannah telling the audience to shut up, knowing that Sweden has already won several months ago
True
Absolutely embarrassing
26:30
Crowd loves him
People chanting "cha cha cha" or "Käärijä" was amazing
Let's be honest jury should weigh 33% and not 50%
UMK in Finland has 25/75 split in the voting, perfect in my mind. But that would also be much better.
Let's be honest, that u simply don't want loreen to win. If it's 33%, u want smth like Croatia on the top? Are u kidding me?
@@nikitagromov3427 Yes, because the public opinion is much more important than the opinion of some random people!
@@marina6833 it should stay 50/50. Jury is not less important then Public. It has to be like this!
Yes for Spain and united kingdom bottom 5 every year and ukraine Lithuania and Poland top 10 always
I am happy my countrys 🇳🇴 jury gave Käärijä 12 points, like our public votes. But in general this jury voting system have too much power. I love Loreen, and this is nothing against her because she is truly amazing, but Käärija was the true winner. The jury votes can create such an unrealistic gap to fill by televotes, and that just makes the whole thing unfair.
I don't like Loreen
I was afraid norway was also gonna give sweden the points, neighbours and all. I'm so glad they didn't, good for them!
100%
You know what creates unrealistic gap?
Last year's Ukraine entry.
Which is all thanks to.... Televoting
@@NERDY_Rick Possibly unpopular opinion, but Ukraine deserved that pity win. It's not comparable.
The number of dislikes clearly shows what needs to be done with the jury votes.
how can you see the number of dislikes? It shows only number of likes for me
@@basko3181 Not OP, but I have a browser extension that allows to see the dislikes: in this video there's about 4000 likes and about 30.000 dislikes at the moment
What needs to be done with the Jury votes is what La Zarra did! Allegedly.
And last year everyone compained on the televote...
Wow what a coincidence that next year is ABBA's 50th anniversary of there win!
23:43 ...I was not expecting that!
most epic moment of that night for sure
Australian lead singer with the sandwich was the best moment😆has his priorities straight, my type of person
Finland deserved better
The jury votes should be 25%, they aren‘t the voice of Europe…
So obvious that jury's decided Sweden would win so ABBAs 50th could be celebrated in Sweden.
This contest is rigged , in favor of Sweden
literally the dumbest reason to give 12 points ever 😭 you think sweden managed to convince every single jury to give them points? and the organisers didn’t notice? lmao
No matter what Germany does, that they always get hated by the jury. Why? Germany should stop funding
German song was all over the place. German over-engineering as per usual.
I know this pain. Poland this same...
for example Michał Szpak:
People from Europe - 222 points
Jury - 7 points...
Yes Germany in 2015 and 2023 you didnt deseeve that place
@@woodwardscreditcard7482 no idea what youre talking about. It was a good song and a good performance. Care to elaborate?
@@awagnow Too many changeups. Never really knew where it was heading so it was hard to get into a groove. It was my first time hearing it so i was mostly confused the whole time. I believe you need to keep it simple in this format. I have no problem with screamo and ballad mix but adding yet another rap segment made it to congested. Idk that's just my opinion.
38:00 "just ignore everyone" nails the democratic understanding of Eurovision smh
The jury has 100% discussed their votes. How else could it be that Sweden was consistently in first place and Italy and Israel had only a two-point difference during the whole time?
Prove it, or else piss off with your conspiracy theories.
Continue to cry like a little baby because your favorite country didn’t win.
Something similar happened in 2015 I guess
yeah they just wanted difference to be 2x Sweden and the 2nd
Abolish the Jury points. This was so rigged
Time to get rid of jury voting
this jury thing just doesn't work. im so mad about finlanddd
It works just fine. Without juries Croatia and Poland would get rewarded over Estonia and Spain. Songs early in the running order would be even more dead. Hell no...
LIKE DUDEEE. LOOK HOW THE CROWD WAS WHEN 12 POINTS WENT TO FINLAND.
ONLY 2 TIMES BUT THESE 2 TIMES WERE BRILLIANT
Imagine that audience spent millions in total for voting and still didnt get the winner they want to!
2$ per vote when you're from a non participating country... Just saying
And where is all this money going? Some countries can't even afford to help their representatives, even with the staging. Will this money help any of the smaller countries?
Australia casually eating their sandwiches when Portugal 🇵🇹 awards them 12 points was so funny 😆 🤗 from Portugal ❤
23:04 Hatari was the highlight of the evening.
Anyone who has eyes and ears and is willing to look beyond their own nose knows that this result is highly unfair. Both in terms of first and last place. For Käärija at least the audience voted fairly, but the flawless performance of Lord of the Lost would have deserved more points. After 45 years of following the ESC, during which I could explain even bad places despite disappointment, I will quit this event forever. I hope our broadcaster will do the same. The ESC did not deserve the warmth, authenticity, openness and tolerance that Lord of the Lost offered.
Thank you 🥹
Ok. We won't miss you
I feel the same. So sad that the jury is that strong. My favourites were Finland and Germany this time and it would've been fine for me to see Norway or Australia win this time, but jury said no...
Youre not going anywhere. You know you'll be back 😂
Oh man, definitely. I even sent an SMS voting for Germany. I was foaming at the mouth seeing them get nearly zero points from both the juries and the audience. Guess they just aren't mainstream enough.
Don't worry everyone, I got you with the timestamps:
[2:08] Ukraine
[3:13] Italy
[4:10] Latvia
[5:00] The Netherlands
[5:37] Malta
[6:26] Moldova
[7:08] Ireland
[8:00] San Marino
[9:01] Azerbaijan
[9:47] Austria
[11:09] France
[11:57] Finland
[12:50] Belgium
[13:34] Germany
[14:43] Portugal
[15:22] Croatia
[16:04] Estonia
[16:50] Armenia
[17:39] Poland
[18:37] Romania
[23:03] Iceland
[24:06] Serbia
[24:53] Cyprus
[25:51] Norway
[27:10] Switzerland
[27:55] Australia
[28:51] Denmark
[29:32] Spain
[30:23] Israel
[31:29] Sweden
[32:48] Georgia
[33:44] Czechia
[34:28] Slovenia
[35:15] Greece
[36:17] Albania
[36:59] Lithuania
[38:04] United Kingdom
The georgian is me when i get da bonkas
You're my hero. It's 3am, I;ve been drinking, all I wanted to do was see Cathrine Tate giving the UK's scores and this video didn't have time stamps. You are doing the Lord's work.
bless you i was looking for this
How can I get a refund for my useless votes?
30k dislikes vs only 4k likes. If that isn't speaking volumes I don't know what is. They have to do something about the jury next year. The result was just too unfair
how to see dislikes, i can't
”Just ignore it, everyone” Wtf??
I'm sorry but something as juvenile as Unicorn is considered the best song by some juries speaks volumes. Sure it is catchy and somewhat enjoyable to listen to... but you can't tell me it is the best song out of those 26. And if they give that many points to Israel what was the hold up for Finnland which was way more daring.
@@agrippastrilemma1797 But it is supposed to be the Eurovision SONG Contest. Shouldn't the song come first and performance second. I mean for example Switzerland had great staging... shouldn't they have performed better points wise as well
It's your opinion. I can't expect to hear Finland's song tomorrow everywhere, but Sweden and Israel YES!!!
Actually, it's so funny that Finland come with the same point, that jury was unfair. It's Israel crying all over the years, that all Europe are antisemitic. Funny
It's catchy. She is beautiful. She is performer. It's all about money. It will be impossible to hear Finland for a long time all over the Europe . But Loreen and Israel, yes, it will stay fir a while
it’s so cringy 💀 literally just “cmon guys we’re not imperialist we sweeeearrr, ignore what we’re doing to palestine!!” in song form
Im a German and i have a question.
Is it like a meme to put us in the last place?
Many German people know that the Singer from the last years were ok, but nothing special ya know.
And this year, we were very happy and thankfull to have a rock song to go with, cause we dont have much to say who we send in and thought that this time we will achieve at least like place 16, 17.
Also it feels like the Jury votings and the public votings are extremly unequal from the importance.
I wish everyone a nice day and good luck for next year.
i think it wasnt meant to be last place this year for sure but there were songs that took all the public votes and the juries dont seem to appreciate any rock songs (just look at finland, won 18 countries' 12 points but jury only gave him 150 points while loreen got 340, it's just not fair anymore). i'd say this year germany did amazing
They knew who had to win and her votes must be drawn from somewhere else.
But that was a bad choice: metal isn't loved by everyone, let alone entice people easily.
There were a lot of things going against Germany this year. The starting number was bad. Very far into the contest, where a lot of people already had favorites and in between Norway and Israel who were already hyped before the contest. And in the metal genre Finnland just completely stole the show. Finnland was so hyped already before the contest and most people who like the style of Lord of the lost would have probably preferred Finnland to win.
Maybe he shouldn’t have dressed like satan. Wierd. Deserved to be last.
Germany was amazing this year!! Unfortunately neither the public nor the jury can appreciate some good metal.
I mean, when you look how happy Käärijä was about his 12p from Norway, imagine the happiness if he would have won...
Graham Norton didn't mention "I wonder which city this is, could be anywhere" when France was announcing results. 😂 He did every year before this!
FIY the dislikes are currently at 5.1k, which says it all🇫🇮💚
@SeverK with addon in browser
10k atm
@SeverK "Return TH-cam Dislike" add-on
Jury gave the win for Sweden and Finland got historically many votes from public but it is how it is. These are the rules
Time to change the rules, i remember Norway i 2019 got few jury votes and a lot of public votes when Keiino preformed, this year the same and Finland lost the victory, why? Because of rigged game 🤬
@@aleksanderhoydal3380 I've got the same opinion. It should be democratic (the one gets most votes should win). Norway totally deserved the victory in 2019 but the same thing happened: the jury's opinion was more important than the people who pays for their votes, goes to the concerts, buys albums etc
It also depends on where the popular votes come from. Not everybody has the same impact.
@@gs7828 18 countries gave full 12 points to Finland in televotes. Finland got 3rd most televotes ever in history (total domination). That was pretty clear
@@RockerFinland Not to mention that Sweden didn't get a single 12 points in televotes.
I want to thank the two hosts because I've never had so much fun during votes announcements.
Dear EBU, please make them the official appointed presenters for this segment!
Yes I agree!! Such good chemistry and Graham especially was hilarious I couldn’t stop laughing 😅😅!
Agreed. I laughed out loud when she burst out laughing when Georgia's spokesperson popped up on screen.
Graham Norton is the commentator of the Eurovision Grand Final for the BBC for every year since 2009 so if you search for the older grand finals on TH-cam you'll find some footage with his commentary on it!!
Reminded me of hunger games hosts.
Countries were afraid to give Croatia points cause they told the Europe truth😂
😂😂😂
Its a singing competition, not a clown parade
What truth
Clown academy
@Wealthy and Nerdy when you have nothing to answer to a fact
S10 saying "especially the girls and the gays" at 5:12 was way too iconic
Cancel the juries. Finland united the people of the continent, leave it up to them and them only to choose their winner.
Finland is this year's Gladiator :(
Oh my god, yes! I felt like I just relived the Poland's finals, again and hugely upscaled!
@@catherinestarling8715 Yup :/ biased jury voting is the biggest enemy
Don't even compare Tattoo with Solo
@@xxxxxxxx8634 I compared THE VOTING SYSTEM. The disappointment Cha Cha Cha fans felt just like we did when Blanka won instead of Jann
just being honest, she just won because of aristocracy and not democracy. and this should not be a winner!
this point-system needs to change! the people didnt liked it that much. for me she recieved so many jury-points because of her fame. the italian song for example was in the same genre and had a much better melody and voice.
True
Who are you talking for? Sweden?
@@anestis_ball TH-cam
@@LoudzBS uhmmmmm.
@@julija8142 and that’s why SVT invited her. As they say in Reddit, everyone sucks here. Including her for accepting their invitation. I positively hated her answer regarding that in the semifinal qualifiers’ press conference… She said something about feeling surprised about SVT’s invitation, and then some generic stuff about writing something that made people feel something (when she, as an artist, knows fully well that having won before gave her much more of an edge than anything else). Yep, her first gut feeling was right, she should’ve gone with it. 🤦♂️
i loved the 12 points that went to australia, they were so surprised they didn't expect it at all xD
I am a big fan of Moldova's submission this year, I love the atmosphere and the flute guy is an absolute legend :D
I may just be weird though...
thank you dude... n please is Moldova... like say ur country's name n ill name how its supposed so pls the same
@@dan109763 My bad, it's just in Polish we call it Mołdawia so I mixed them up
One of the most iconic moments :
The crowd singing "Poe Poe Poe Poe Poe" after Austria received 12 points.
They definitely deserved better, 12 points from France 🇫🇷❤🇦🇹
I don't get why Austria got only 16 points from televote when it been a fav since day one
THISSS, Belgium had good taste ❤
Finland 🇫🇮 deserved to win
Love from Italy ❤🇮🇹