Owen, could you put a post up explaining why so many comments are being deleted. I'd like to know if you're running a tight ship or if your channel is being targeted by right wing trolls trying to silence anyone that agrees with you.
Owen: What do you mean by your comment that the vaccine rollout wasn't down to the Government, but the public sector? I'm curious because I always thought the public sector was managed by the Government and its policies. Are you suggesting the NHS is an autonomous body?
@@kirkharrison3906 The NHS rolling out vaccines well is not due to Government policy. In fact given the real terms funding cuts and the fact our health service is by far the cheapest in the developed world you'd have to suggest that they succeeded despite the actions of the government.
Spot on comments Owen. Describes me exactly as a former paid up member of the Labour party who has started to think that I would rather vote Green. At least they have some policies, whereas Labour at the moment occupy a policy free vacuum.
Owen Jones has it in a nutshell, 'it just screeches inauthenticity, not sure if that is the right word, but it is simple as simple as that, the man is not genuine, and many, especially on the left, see that in the man. Many see it in not just Starmer.
Labour needs to channel Tony Benn in this moment and start making a pitch for achievable ideas that brings Scotland back under the red flag. The first thing that comes to mind is a senate upper house that gives the constituent countries equal representation /voice and supremacy over the commons. Without Scotland, Labour will continue to flail.
Capital has all wealth and power, claim tax cuts and trade deals incl tax havens, Working people have an ever harder time to make ends meet, housing costs rose 3x the weekly pay. And British Labour has a problem to define their politics and a vision for Britain!?? 😱 🇬🇧
Have a look at the latest approval rating for Keir Starmer on yougov, its OFF THE CHARTS NEGATIVE. I don't recall any political leader with such bad ratings. He must go now surely.
The death knell for Labour was, fence sitting on brexit. The Labour party and Corbyn in particular, we're appalling and totally fudged on brexit thinking.
I agree Owen. I also don't know who Labour can win votes from. They've alienated both the red wall and life long Labour pro EU supporters such as I. He lacks charisma and vision, being analytical is not enough.
Vision is not what is required to win an election in the UK. A study of the past 100 years and in particular the last 30 will tell you all you need to know when you are planning a General Election strategy.
Why didn’t he get pulled up on his complete lack of charisma/vision before it went to the vote? Is labour that unaware of its own irrelevance? I hate to say it, but they need a rebrand. It’s the only way people understand anything these days. Labour need to analyse themselves and figure out what they stand for in 2021, because at this point in time, it’s not clear and most people in the country know it.
Starmers only concern is dissociating the party from socialism as much as possible and making it as pro israel as possible. What is left is a shell of a party which no one wants to vote for besides shy tory voters.
Owen is the kind of lad who hopefully represents the future of politics. Quick with his words, principled in his politics and passionate in his delivery of a vision for a brighter socialist future. Keep it up comrade!
I thought this situation was what you wanted, when you helped to throw every decent left wing activist and MP under the bus between 2015 and 2019, Owen! Don't start complaining now.
Also listen to the northerners, they had Labour in there councils for years. And destroyed there towns. Got labour councils more interested in spending in there own pension pots.
@Perry Bee No need to question the intelligence of northerners as if that's even a question in these losses. If they didn't know that that was the problem it was because the leadership failed in pointing it out.
"The government is trying to occupy this new centre ground, and Dominic Cummings says it doesn't exist, it's a myth" Then why did the government win all these seats? If their policy is indeed centre ground (feel free to debate), and voters voted for it, clearly, it exists.
Owen Jones, the man who has made his party about London based narcissists screeching ‘look at me’ all the time, complaining that Starmer is the problem. Nobody buys it, everyone see’s through you, you don’t represent the working class. I hope Starmer keeps well clear of you in future.
Time for a leadership challenge! The others in the party need to do to Starmer what they did to Corbyn! If anything, Sadiq Khan should be Labour leader! We need to do everything we can to: - get the Tories out of power - deprivatize our public services - reduce poverty as much as possible - get Britain back into the EU!
If Owen J. ever ran you can guarantee the Red Wall will stay blue forever. 🦃 He could stand in Dianne Abbott’s seat - they seem to be so blind he would probably win.
Jones goes big on the NHS and small on the govt’s vaccine procurement. Shame. The NHS is ok but isn’t a deity mr Jones. How hard is it exactly to put a needle in someone’s arm and press down the plunger? The vaccine success is largely down to the Govt with the NHS providing critical administrative assistance.
Keep it up Owen, and Labour will continue to wander the wilderness. You are so out of contact it’s laughable. Owen talking about authenticity is the biggest laugh. Every time you speak Labour loses more votes
Not really a slam, just more of let's do what failed to win the last two elections. I think the best advice to the Labour party would be to stop listening to the far left because brexit showed they don't vote anyway.
In 2017 Corbyn had the most dramatic increase in vote share since Clement Atlee in 1945, sounds like a success to me. Something needs to change and we saw in 2017 that a socialist Labour party was popular, far more popular than it is under Starmer now
In 2017 labour lost. They lost against a bad candidate in Theresa May. Who cares they increased their vote share. Jeremy Corbyn then took the party to its worst defeat since the 30’s. Against a better candidate.
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Owen, could you put a post up explaining why so many comments are being deleted. I'd like to know if you're running a tight ship or if your channel is being targeted by right wing trolls trying to silence anyone that agrees with you.
Owen: What do you mean by your comment that the vaccine rollout wasn't down to the Government, but the public sector? I'm curious because I always thought the public sector was managed by the Government and its policies. Are you suggesting the NHS is an autonomous body?
Hi Owen. Can you explain how you became Eddy Izzard's lovechild?
@@kirkharrison3906 The NHS rolling out vaccines well is not due to Government policy.
In fact given the real terms funding cuts and the fact our health service is by far the cheapest in the developed world you'd have to suggest that they succeeded despite the actions of the government.
@@henryburton6529 So efficiency has nothing to do with it then? You want the NHS to cost you more money for the same service?
Spot on comments Owen. Describes me exactly as a former paid up member of the Labour party who has started to think that I would rather vote Green. At least they have some policies, whereas Labour at the moment occupy a policy free vacuum.
I might also add that I thoroughly enjoyed that - you were so impassioned that you managed to impress Kirsty Wark. No mean feat. 👍
That one lady speaks like I do when I’m drunk and pretending to be posh to impress girls
@@winko8500 haha yeah. Wot wot, cup of tea and crumpets?
Keir has no vision and no charisma but the problems are across the entire party.
That's it. Not being Johnson isn't going to win an election. A party isn't just a man with a posh voice. They need to have policy.
@@lindylou538 And it needs to be left-wing policy.
Keir Starmer - No policy, no vision, London centric, no chance
Owen Jones has it in a nutshell, 'it just screeches inauthenticity, not sure if that is the right word, but it is simple as simple as that, the man is not genuine, and many, especially on the left, see that in the man. Many see it in not just Starmer.
Owen and Trevor are in the trenches, fighting against misinformation, stupidity and ignorance.
Another strong performance OJ :}
more like the Government spends very strategically in such ways that their chums can skim off as much as possible in the process
Labour needs to channel Tony Benn in this moment and start making a pitch for achievable ideas that brings Scotland back under the red flag. The first thing that comes to mind is a senate upper house that gives the constituent countries equal representation /voice and supremacy over the commons. Without Scotland, Labour will continue to flail.
I’m not sure Starmer has any idea just how bad things are for the party now, I’d say they’re in for a worse result than Corbyn in 2024
wait... what year is it?
Starmer will be on both knees now
Don't worry the Soft Left are starting to get tired of Starmer too. I expect a leadership challenge if we lose Batley and Spen
if?
Who could realistically even argue with those points at the end? That’s why Labour need to start championing those ideas more proactively
im 100% done with pretending socialism is anything less than the most sensible way forward. If anyone questions it im not going to be polite...
Well you can expect to continue to lose elections. 🤷♂️
It's as simple as that.
You socialists were pretending? Maybe try reflection. Pro tip
Absolutely nailed it.
The homeowners don't want house prices and rents to come down. The young and assetless want the opposite. There is no squaring that circle.
Here the truth be told. I don't see a clean way out of this one. A split seems inevitable.
2/3 RDS of Labour members are now middle class.
It's the party of the well heeled.
Capital has all wealth and power, claim tax cuts and trade deals incl tax havens,
Working people have an ever harder time to make ends meet, housing costs rose 3x the weekly pay.
And British Labour has a problem to define their politics and a vision for Britain!?? 😱 🇬🇧
Have a look at the latest approval rating for Keir Starmer on yougov, its OFF THE CHARTS NEGATIVE. I don't recall any political leader with such bad ratings. He must go now surely.
The death knell for Labour was, fence sitting on brexit.
The Labour party and Corbyn in particular, we're appalling and totally fudged on brexit thinking.
@@julian987r4 . He didn't do himself, or his party any favours by being disrespectful at the cenotaph either.
Corbyn should've opposed the idea of a second referendum but the party would've probably split. The labour right forced him into a corner.
Owen Jones puts Owen Jones in title of Owen Jones video.
The govt had nothing to do with the vaccine rollout? Jeez Owen, that’s a low blow even for you
He has a vision. Just an absolutely terrifying one
I agree Owen. I also don't know who Labour can win votes from. They've alienated both the red wall and life long Labour pro EU supporters such as I. He lacks charisma and vision, being analytical is not enough.
Vision is not what is required to win an election in the UK. A study of the past 100 years and in particular the last 30 will tell you all you need to know when you are planning a General Election strategy.
Why didn’t he get pulled up on his complete lack of charisma/vision before it went to the vote? Is labour that unaware of its own irrelevance?
I hate to say it, but they need a rebrand. It’s the only way people understand anything these days. Labour need to analyse themselves and figure out what they stand for in 2021, because at this point in time, it’s not clear and most people in the country know it.
Starmers only concern is dissociating the party from socialism as much as possible and making it as pro israel as possible. What is left is a shell of a party which no one wants to vote for besides shy tory voters.
Well said
I cannot Abid starmer he needs removed
Can you please become a Labour mp!! You’re genuinely a better communicator than anyone Labour has at the moment.
Slammed
Owen is the kind of lad who hopefully represents the future of politics. Quick with his words, principled in his politics and passionate in his delivery of a vision for a brighter socialist future. Keep it up comrade!
I thought this situation was what you wanted, when you helped to throw every decent left wing activist and MP under the bus between 2015 and 2019, Owen! Don't start complaining now.
Well the left and the right finally agree on something.
Owen these videos are great, you don't need the Daily Mail style of CAPITALISING one word in the headline every time
Awesome, eloquent and passionate, never give up my friend.
That smile at the end is priceless
Also listen to the northerners, they had Labour in there councils for years. And destroyed there towns. Got labour councils more interested in spending in there own pension pots.
Hahahaha yeah alright mate, sorry who was it that "destroyed there towns"..... deluded.
@Perry Bee No need to question the intelligence of northerners as if that's even a question in these losses. If they didn't know that that was the problem it was because the leadership failed in pointing it out.
Owen Jones refers to himself in the third person ;)
left and right forget you can only apeal to logic,, apealing to stupid people makes things worse
+1 for the Shapiro titles
GEDDEM OWEN
All a pantomime !.. and discration ..
Olly Plimsolls reports.
Owen, get OUT of London. You are living in the bubble.
battle of ideas doesn't inclues Keirs
The voice of common sense.
I just don't get how Starmer is so inept at seeing reality
He sees reality very well. His job is to make people not to see reality. Is that what the national news is for?
I love watching Owen constant sad face not knowing that he is always backing a dead horse. Time to call him a whambulance.
💯
"The government is trying to occupy this new centre ground, and Dominic Cummings says it doesn't exist, it's a myth"
Then why did the government win all these seats? If their policy is indeed centre ground (feel free to debate), and voters voted for it, clearly, it exists.
Centre ground? This is the most right wing government since the early 20th century mate.
@@matthewotooleis I'm just quoting the news reporter. I never said she was right....
Et Brexit, l'éléphant dans la pièce ..............
And yes, I know that isn't a French idiom.
Et le changement climatique, également un éléphant!
Et le soutien (paraît-il) inconditionnel à Israël!
In fact, we have the makings of a herd of elephants in the room.
i clicked on this vid to see owen raw doggie kier. not dissapointed
You still don't have a scooby , there is barely a labour mp who doesn't make the public cringe
Is Owen Jones getting more attractive? Is he single?
Asking for a.... me.
Gosh. You're amazing. I know you deserve your own channel but really wish you would join Novara media.
Love the daily mail style headline. Ironic coming from you.
Well said Owen. Absolutely spot on.
Please keep interviewing these two.
Best thing for the conservatives. People who have not got a clue.
People know exactly what the “Labour” party stands for and they don’t like it.
Jones is wrong. No likes for me.👍
I like what the labour party stands for
@@bwmanhath3770 It stands for nothing. It kneels though.
I know what the labour party now stands for. A visionless gutless inhumane party.
Owen Jones, the man who has made his party about London based narcissists screeching ‘look at me’ all the time, complaining that Starmer is the problem. Nobody buys it, everyone see’s through you, you don’t represent the working class. I hope Starmer keeps well clear of you in future.
Perhaps a bit cringe to describe your own opinion as a SLAM, Owen?
He needs to feed the algorithm
Feck the algorithms, yes
Gotta fight the right wing algorithm
@Salmer you can always tell a Tory as he opens his gob!!!
Why is this lady interviewing children 😂
Time for a leadership challenge! The others in the party need to do to Starmer what they did to Corbyn! If anything, Sadiq Khan should be Labour leader!
We need to do everything we can to:
- get the Tories out of power
- deprivatize our public services
- reduce poverty as much as possible
- get Britain back into the EU!
Legend.
Because of course Owen Jones speaks for the working man lol. He's a boy
Owen mate, run as a MP in your late 30's, they'll need you at some point, arguably now
He'll get taken to pieces outside of the chat show environment
If Owen J. ever ran you can guarantee the Red Wall will stay blue forever. 🦃
He could stand in Dianne Abbott’s seat - they seem to be so blind he would probably win.
BACK SIR KEIR STARMER!
No
Is it time to switch from labour then?
Only if u switch to green or possibly lib dem 💜
Jones goes big on the NHS and small on the govt’s vaccine procurement. Shame.
The NHS is ok but isn’t a deity mr Jones.
How hard is it exactly to put a needle in someone’s arm and press down the plunger?
The vaccine success is largely down to the Govt with the NHS providing critical administrative assistance.
They were training trolley dollies ex British Airways - shows you how complicated it is!
Dia is such a doll.
Keep it up Owen, and Labour will continue to wander the wilderness. You are so out of contact it’s laughable. Owen talking about authenticity is the biggest laugh. Every time you speak Labour loses more votes
Owen makes an absolute f_ tonne from his Patreons, he’s the hard left’s Alex Jones. Massive, massive hypocrite.
Jones is the Emperor and Starmer is Luke confirmed.
Piss off, Kier Starmer is the Emperor and Jones is Luke.
@@themasteryourdaddy.6307 the vision lacker is always Luke, it's the rule of RotJ.
Not really a slam, just more of let's do what failed to win the last two elections. I think the best advice to the Labour party would be to stop listening to the far left because brexit showed they don't vote anyway.
In 2017 Corbyn had the most dramatic increase in vote share since Clement Atlee in 1945, sounds like a success to me. Something needs to change and we saw in 2017 that a socialist Labour party was popular, far more popular than it is under Starmer now
@@clarabatty8696 Second place is the best loser.
In 2017 labour lost. They lost against a bad candidate in Theresa May. Who cares they increased their vote share. Jeremy Corbyn then took the party to its worst defeat since the 30’s. Against a better candidate.
@@tomlunanhill3545 that was largely due sabotage by the centrist corporatist
@@eightiesmusic1984 It always makes me laugh when people refer to themselves as socially democratic and then can't win a democratic vote.
Shut it owen
no
@@OwenJonesTalks omgsh you really stood up to tyranny there