SimpleX Chat - Next Level Private Messaging
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video I explain the features of SimpleX Chat and how it provides better communication privacy than most other available products.
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I don't have this problem because I have no friends. Checkmate feds.
preach
wrong, now I'm your friend, whether you like it or not!
If you are not influential you can think whatever you want
$100,000 mission from the CIA incoming
based
nice try fed, but communication with my buddies is already maximum encrypted by being inside of my head
Have you heard of rubber hose cryptanalysis before?
@@Spessman Rubbe hsoe cryptanalysis was my slave name.
They're literally developing ways to tap into that too. Brain imaging to produce actual scans of what people are thinking, and it's not totally ineffective. Of course, for now, no one is going to do it without your knowledge, because you have to be hooked up to a machine
@@J31neuralink
1984
I'll just keep using my carrier pigeons
Nsa has carrier pigeons capture and return centers
They’ve been compromised
hangin outside your window with a peregrine falcon:
They are government drones.
Have you read Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix?
welcome back to todays episode of "Is it a honeypot"!!!
i’d think this if it wasn’t open source
@@elijahjflowers it doesnt matter if its open source? ur acting as if they cant put the honeypot just because they open sourced it lol
@@elijahjflowers open source only means something if you can effectively read/understand the source code and compile your own binary from it yourself.
@@ValipPowa “ur acting as if they cant put the honeypot”
what?
put it in github repo?; that can be cloned and personally used amongst private companies/circles/and networks?
@@ValipPowa no they literally cant
3:15 jokes on them. My sleep schedule is so chaotic that I don't think anyone could link it to a timezone
@@wot3890no ips in onion routing, mate
They use your computers clock not your "sleep schedule" 😬
@@JorgeLopez-qj8pu damn son, u R sMaRT
@@JorgeLopez-qj8pu jokes on them I'm too lazy to set it to the correct timezone
@@vidal9747 I sleep every other day and then sometimes like 12-16 hours. Suboxone is such a terrible medication…
I self host my own Matrix server to chat with myself on desktop and mobile, since I have no friends.
Nobody does don't feel bad. XD Most people that think they have a bunch of friends have a bunch of narcs around them that are just waiting under the wing for them to fu** up...
@@xbabu142x I do this with one other fren. No outside connectivity. He blocks it
@@VioFax We get you're a looser, no need to be so loud about it
I feel bad for you guys. Best of wishes for finding a good friend for the both of you.
I hosted a Matrix homeserver for about a year... It's not really worth it.. We just moved to Signal
since feds can find your timezone, and hence approximate location with accuracy to 1665 km, just by the timestamps of when you're active on the internet, I consider stable sleep schedule bad opsec
The uberman sleep schedule is true opsec
I'm laughing
But it doesn't mean you're wrong
Or just dont be active all day.
Even better. Go days between bring active and not.
Bro, just use pagers, what can go wrong?
Mossad? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hold on let me ask diddy
just make sure to check for explosives after every purchased pager.
@@loukas3108 Don't be a terrie and you won't have to worry. They only intercepted Pagers purchased by the terries in bulk, but I do believe some of those might have made it into innocent hands I blame the terries not the bad as spies who pulled off an amazing logistical operation.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 explosion 💥
The unspoken rule: If Mental Outlaw made a video about it, it's already over.
real
@professoropsec fr
@professoropseche is a fed larping as a security master don't fall for the honeypot
What are you even doing? Nobody cares about your sad drug habit except your family.
@@Archer690Channelare you serious?
you just scared the crap out of that one person in the world that visited an anime website, then a poker website, and a leatherworking website before watching your video lol
At least he didn't say their evil plan was to host the biggest birthday party event in the tri-state area.
@@pauljs75 which three states are those?
@@pauljs75 that would be a thing he'd do
To anyone reading this, yes they are inside of your walls
Can they also hide under the skin?
"He's in the walls! He's in the godd*mn walls!"
I thought the Chinese government was on my roof one time when I was really sleep deprived and turned out there was a literal rat in my room fucking with my head hahaha
@@redetermine they don’t have to be, we already let them into every single one of our devices. Especially IoT devices and smartphones.
On other side of TH-cam comments are people fearing TEMU spy on you
On this comment section: "does anyone care about privacy" sheeple
Least obvious fed honey pot
Its FOSS
@@tamino3777 Please explain to the normie audience, what that means.
@@kjullthedemon Free and Open Source Software. Basically the source code of the whole thing is available for anybody to read and maybe do some other stuff if the license allows it. Doesn't mean it isn't a honeypot though
@@plokil Oh, like that. Well, Matrix is open source too. Technically even Discord is open source, to some extend, since it's based on Chromium. I feel like open source is the new buzzword for "Private". Open source is good, but it's not some sort of measure for how private something is.
@@kjullthedemon I absolutely wouldn't agree that Discord is open source. Using an open source technology, doesn't mean you know what's inside, it just means that it might contain some modified code that you knew what it did, before it got modified. Almost every app uses some open source apps/protocols.
I hope privacy goes mainstream
the more governments encroach on it the more it will
You have no idea how unbelievably bad it is.
Let me word it differently: I hope privacy gets important for more and more people.
Agreed, especially with client side scanning being pushed more and more. Mass adoption for regular people is a big hurdle, though.
never. Its impossible bro
is it just me or has the govermnet stopped complaining about Whatsapp being encrypted?Almost like it's been backed doored
Fr
Now it's the EU that wants a backdoor to check for child porn. I think only Germany and Italy block a new law at this point.
yeah,most messaging apps have been backdoored by the feds
It’s owned by Facebook take a guess
They store your messages on the cloud so yes it's 100% backdoored, now they give the illusion of privacy.
How long until the app starts glowing?
2 years tops..
Glowing haha, its as soon as it moved to production 😂
Lol, ain't that the truth 😂
Probably glowing already
@@ashishpatel350 Bro do you have a group on simplex chat
It's already supernove.
Based on the devices these days. The messaging apps are the least of the problem. These devices are outing you long before the feds even need to go to your messaging app provider.
Privacy has become a matter of work. If the feds want to spy on you they will.
yeah but they can't use TS/black project data in most cases, so they have to parallel construct and that is where this comes into place.
oh the misery, if only we only had a fully open source mobile and or desktop os that people with actual top-priority opsec needs could compile and install on their own
What is “TS Black Project”
Nah I’ll just keep using my plants as friends I guess
😂
Plants can wither tho
I’ll keep using food
Based and druidpilled
Theyll start putting chips in the clay-pots soon, mark my words.
if its on the app store on a smartphone I have a feeling there's gotta be a catch lol
don't worry, when big tech would notice it they find a reason to remove it
anything on the app stores has a backdoor for apple/google/microsoft
@@mike4402That’s BS, especially if the app communicates with a 3rd party server. Also, define “backdoor”, they can see https requests leaving the app? That’s a trust issue with the OS then.
dont get it there
@@mike4402source?
Alice going down the tech rabbit hole and catfishing FBI-chan.
Next week: pdf files and crypto criminals are using to do crimes.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
They already are
This is the dumbest reason to prevent people from using private apps.
Inb4 😂
They tell you that they love children, then they drop bombs on them. In fact, they only love power and control.
Epstein and Diddy can have ISLANDS but I can't have an APP
Please keep us updated in case this is a honeypot, if not it looks dope!
I'd take any claims of any privacy on any app with any device with a grain of salt... None of this stuff is private. If it ever was? It never STAYS that way.
its not a honeypot bro wtf u can literally check out the source code + they are decentralized and do not actually store the msgs on a remote server
@@Jeetard2026 Have you personally checked it since the video was posted ?
@@IcecalGamer Have you taken your meds?
VC backed bro
Uuuuuuuhhhhh, my fellow americans, we have evidence that SimpleX has uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh WMDs
BLTs?
iraqle x holy shit
At this point just use HAM radio, don’t rely on your ISP.
Reticulum.
@@TheOisannNetworkthis.
HAM can be triangulated! The laws of physics are gonna dox you!
meshtastic
@@TheOisannNetworkthis
Also ham radio coms is not encrypted,
I cited this video in my research paper for the cryptography unit I'm studying, thanks for the concise explanation
that ONE THING i am jealous of with the americans, is the burner phones. Here in mf europe, every single phone number must be registered officially
Burner phones don't exist.
Quit being delulu
@@notafbihoneypot8487Yeah which is why most slang was invented to prevent self snitching over the phone.
oh, burner phones do exist, buy a phone with removable battery, used or new with cash, get a free Lyca Mobile SIM or somesuch, put it in, pay a kid to get you a xx minutes/hours code from a shop with cash. put battery in, activate SIM, enter code, use phone outside of your dwellings/usual area of business, remove battery, do that for a week, burn phone but keep battery. you have, iirc, 15 or 30 days to send the MVMO the paperwork along with your id. that's how many _enterprising youngsters_ do it in France at least. 😅
lots of other ways to do it too, including in prison... 😏👆
Not in Holland. They probably wont need registration there , they already know who you are 🤣🤣🤣
Bro how do gypsies get them then 🤔
Simple-X
or
Sim-Plex (get it... a play on unidirectional communications)
Or simplex because this shit is more of a virus than herpes
ooooh, that is good
everyone calls it sim-plex
herpes simplex
All that goes to waste when you realize your keyboard may be logged to "collect usage statistics"
They have a desktop version. Phone option not needed.
Futo keyboard?
Jokes on them, I type with a MIDI keyboard.
Helioboard is an option on F-Droid.
Get a non-logging version of a keyboard on f droid. But also keep.in mind your OS reads your notifications so unless you stop that, it still reads your messages.
The problem: the feds won't leave us alone
Solution: use pagers, an idea with the best of intentions what could possibly go wrong.
It will blow up into pieces 💀
it is gonna blow your ear off maybe .
Loved the sexy FBI agent part
Citizen-kun. 😂
real bro😂 anyone know the sauce?
My carrier pigeon's carrier pigeon buys his burner phone with cash
I was expecting you to make this video.
Simple X seems to be a promising answer for private and encrypted messaging.
Is it similar to briar ?
Whatsapp is NOT encrypted. I get ads for every topic I discuss on it in the very same day EVERY time. Last week I was in a bad mood and someone asked me about it in Whatsapp. The SAME night I get an ad saying "Are you in a bad mood? Here is a tower computer with a major discount!". I bought a new pc a month ago, so it connected the info "bad mood" + "buys computer parts" for that ad. That event made my mood even worse.
Facebook is not a trillion dollar company for charity.
Well maybe it got even worse but the trick with Whatsapp always was that the content of the messages was encrypted but not the metadata. Sure back then it probably actually meant stuff like time, location and stuff (and yeah that is pretty bad by itself) but now i freaking bet that they are doing some super smart loophole thingie where the messages generate some sort of "anonymised general content ad metadata" before getting sent or something or maybe something even worse. But yeah whatsapp was actually never fully encrypted.
@@MrMozkoZrout To be honest, I just think each user sends their private keys to Facebook servers. Technically it is e2e encrypted. But it is as secure as plaintext. They can't be sued for false advertising that way.
@@MrMozkoZrout I figured this out when I could report messages within a private chat on WhatsApp.
I've also been experiencing this a lot recently, so I'm using another app now.
I have been banned from whatsapp because an admin changed the group name to something incredibly suspicious. I was later unbanned with them saying that their system accidently flagged my account. "encrypted" lmao
Surely this one will be different riiiight? Come on man get used to it. The game was rigged from the start, and we haven't been playing, we've been played
bro thinks hes a criminal mastermind
@@xx_pcgamer_xx6866 I'm actually a master at baiting, some call me a master baiter
@@xx_pcgamer_xx6866😂all of cybersec enthusiast are thought like that
Privacy is an unwinnable game, but its worth trying.
Hm what is everyone so paranoid about ? I am just a normie who stumbled upon this video but from the comments i feel like i stumbled upon some sort of crazy whistleblowers or whatever. I mean what can happen to that app ?
Glows in the dark
Can you explain to an ignorant person what this means. I tried searching for the reference but found nothing helpful.
@@utubepunkglowies
@@utubepunk People call FBI, CIA, or NSA agents "glowies" because it’s a joke about how obvious or out-of-place they seem in certain online communities. The idea is that they’re so easy to spot, it’s like they "glow in the dark" when they try to blend in. It's mostly used in a mocking way to point out when someone seems like they're trying too hard to be undercover or manipulate a conversation. When people say the app "glows in the dark" they mean they think the app is government controlled or backdoored.
@@utubepunkTerry Davis once said: “The CIA n*****s glow in the dark”. Basically meaning they stand out from the norm, so when they say it glows in the dark they mean it seems like it’s a honeypot or it’s related to the feds in some type of way. Hope this helped. 👍
@@user-se5xg3vz8p I found it when something mentioned Terry Davis. It's a very soy, distasteful term.
2:50 oof, dude punched holes into the leather underneath
This glows so brightly.
It doesn’t matter what Chat App we use, all law is going to do is say “it’s illegal” & it’s game over- yet again.
Simplex radio transmissions are one-way radio transmissions. You need two bands for full duplex.
me and the boys using a minecraft server that has a plugin enters an ai agent to different minecraft servers and recieve messages encrypted. So they have a minecraft plugin that converts their current chunk into message real time. Good luck feds. We can also add extra layers by adding roblox, embedding message into discord hentai generator bot and some obscure games to the pipeline :V
Ah yeah the Rubegoldberg encryption
A lot of Alice profiles appeared since you dropped this video
Nice try FED! 😉 The whole point is that you cant "see" profiles.
@@JorgeLopez-qj8pu no te has enterado del video puedes mostrar u ocultar tu perfil lo de Alice lo he dicho porque el nombre que se ha puesto el es Alice
Carrier pigeon gang where we at???
~ 12:30 Mass adoption is the biggest hurdle to more private messaging apps and is the elephant in the room. Besides funding, of course.
If the weakest link is (normies who use social media with minimal protection), then the chance of them using such as SimpleX chat, is slim to none, practically speaking.
Niche solutions are difficult to scale hence why risk triage is going to be on the privacy minded.
I have SimpleX and Session, and Signal. No one I know uses the first two and very few the last.
Still can't even get most normies on Telegram for an infinitely better experience than regular sms ...and that's cooked
Kenny's pullin' out all the stops! Out here showing us all these apps.
I have tried her for about 7 months. It's a very promising app, but it still needs a lot of improvements and additions. Also notifications don't work properly on android if the app is minimized
Was having similar problems on android. Even with a tab open it wouldn't update notifications, messages wouldn't appear until I sent one , then I started getting 2 day old messages randomly. All in the last 2-3 months.
@@jamesbridges7750 Yes indeed, the same has happened to me. I don't use it as my main messaging app because it crashes all the time. I use Threema as my main app and Session for some other things.
Written in Haskell. Yea I’m thinking honeypot. Good luck finding that back door. Edit: can’t confirm claims of him being Israeli.
100% unit 8200 hunnypot
I found nothing about israel in relation to the main guy... though a lot of long reddit posts
@@ADVscout I looked into the claim. Should’ve done my own research. I can’t find anything to confirm other than him being Russian.
@@saymehnamethis is half the problem. You all think everything is glow so we get no progress (that said, is this glow? Probably)
I assume anything written in Haskell glows because nobody normal writes in Haskell
LMAO '100% private' = 100% Honeypot
Thanks for this, just found your channel - love the name of your merch site! Looking forward to learning more from your videos, will get a T-shirt.
Once again hoping you will take a peek at veilid chat. Those guys are doing great work. Eventually you will I believe.
100% sure simplex leads right back to our friends at our social media spyware companies.
Thank you Kenny!! Please make videos regarding OPSEC and keeping the average joe from being spied on by their ISP... In a world like this, we need people like you to help us fight back. Thanks for everything so far.
Simple ✅
BASED ✅
simpleX chat is more respectful of my privacy than people 😂
I am switching from Session to Briar because of some cool features in Briar. If SimpleX Chat added features of Briar it would make it more useful.
What are those?
What are those features ?
2:54 was my favorite part tbh; I didn't know that's how leather is threaded by hand. I guess I just never questioned it but it's satisfying to watch.
I was wondering when you'd make a vid on SimpleX. Awesome
Signal requiring phone number was a dealbreaker to me
Edit: reading thier site it seems you need to a number to sigh up, then you can hide it from people and optionally make searching for you by phone number not possible. Nothing about removing phone number from account or registering without one so still a no
I never understood how it can be privacy or anon based and yet need ur phone number lol
same
@@phantomtr1 Because they don't retain any other significant data, so the only info you're potentially exposing is that you've used the app and the most recent time you sent a message.
@@robertwright8844 which is already a potential problem, considering that your position is more or less always known through phone cells. Knowing my location, it becomes CRUCIAL to be able to hide the time of my messages.
@@robertwright8844 thats more than enough to link you 3 times over with our current legal systems
microdots and pigeons FTW
Yeah uuh... I'll just keep using my smoke signals 💨
are those encrypted?
@@jlco oh shit 💀
The best thing it actually works even on de-googled smartphones. Voice calls work too!
feds cant get me if I have no friends
Everybody that I see with "friends" have a lot of problems and drama that goes with...
Hey, can we get a deep dive review of the source code to see if anything is fishy? I'm kinda curious.
not from him lmao
what's the name of the messaging app comparison site?
Wanna know too!
he should really publish sources of what he shows in video description but rarely does
@@Luclecool123 yeah that pisses me off as well, I looked for the site and could not find it. I am checking the comments again but most of them are useless comments.
Search for _Kuketz IT-Security Blog - Messenger-Matrix_
@@ohmygoditskornn for real, just plenty of people over joking so annoying
if the OS of pretty much every phone on the planet wasn't a spyware this would be pretty useful lol
Love the vid thanks for sharing ☺️
It doesn't have user ids, just invite links which contain IDs and a QR code which contains the link which contains IDs. Very cool!
At this point one time pads and short wave radio sound a really uncomplicated means of secure communication 😂
I've always wanted to do this.
I like your videos, even when they have no relevance to me. I just like to listen 😆
Love SimpleX. Would use it over signal on my phone but it uses an extreme amount of battery on grapheneOS (>50%)
Used it for a while but I didn't want to sacrifice all my battery.
i love the idea of an actual burner phone...
that's Google's fault and their push notification service merely mask just how god awful battery life is when using their chips
your phone has spyware now dude
The boss posted again
I downloaded the app and gave it a go. I found that the disappearing message has a design flaw.
When someone replies to a disappearing message with a long standing message, the deleted one will still appear as the "replied to". The same thing applied to the directly deleted message.
This happens in Signal when you delete a message someone has replied to, atleast for me in the standard chat option, haven’t tried to see if it happens in the “disappearing messages” option….
Disappearing messages really are not a private feature, especially on a product like SimpleX where the data is stored locally, not on the server. You could simply modify the program to stop the disappearing.
2:54 with my sleep schedule they're looking for me all the way over in China
no shot this isnt a honeypot
I believe this is open source
@@annoyedgamer1 "believe" SO! you dont even know?!? 😆
@@JorgeLopez-qj8pu lol, it’s just the way I speak
I think apps are not the way forward. Open and well documented protocols with P2P support are. We should allow people to use or develop any app as long as it fits a well designed sets of practices and make these people able to talk to each other. No more 5 separate spyware apps installed just to communicate.
It's called Matrix, although it's quite complex due to capabilities. But at leasr it is a protocol.
the most sad thing is that most people dont care about privacy... But if more and more channels like yours will spread such news then better :)
And? Let them be. Only dumb people dont care about privacy therefore we dont need them.
All of this is good and fine, but what's up with all the proton clients? They are quite heavy, have poor accessibility and almost no integration with the desktop. Is it that hard to have something that integrates with pidgin or something?
There are no permanent identifiers, except your habits, your most common used words or phrases, etc.
Sorry glowies, I'm not awake at the same time functional members of society are in my time zone
and they know that
I needed this rn thank you soon much❤ I fucking love your videos🤘🏻
Switched operations immediately thank you brother for always leading up correctly in the digital world
A big problem with a lot of these privacy focused chat apps is cross-platform syncing capability. Unfortunately. SimpleX doesn't do too well in that regard. It's usual to expect a sacrifice in usability with most privacy focused apps and until that changes, I don't think any of these apps will gain significant usage.
I don't think they'll ever see mass adoption because of the network effect.
People typically adopt new communication apps because their friends are there,what use is a private app if you can't convince anyone you know to use it?
@@robob4465 Also a big factor. There's not really anything convincing people to switch either. Not many people truly care about privacy or know enough about it to make the switch.
Why switch to something worse when you can keep using the seemingly "better" product?
I've personally had the easiest time convincing people to switch to Signal only because our default messaging app is pretty shit. I don't think Signal is perfect and it's not exactly what I want; but it's the only option that works well for most people I've encountered.
Telegram is awesome xd Feds call, ceo sais no and gets jailed. Its just epic
how is it even possible that satoshi nakamoto is anonymous if he had none of this?
yo mental outlaw, i fuckin love ur content bro shit gets me thru the day
Normie here, your comment section is an asylum.
Knitting and cooking...straight comedy, bro.
The real problem is getting your friends to use different applications.
I have one friend who goes out of his way to install stuff like opera gx, drm anticheat games and ofc he uses windows 11, just to annoy me.
I call him China's fleshlight
That is what happens when you appear way too much like a paranoid privacy fanatic. Friends love to tease. You got to ease them in carefully
@@MrMozkoZrout I'll have the last laugh, tho
the nerds do not get network effect and the need for lmnipresence and all the features. cause they have no friends
@@MrMozkoZrout how? the private apps suck
Can and fishing line is the only way to truly be secure
Notification gang here
Recommendations are crazy good
It's an interesting concept and has good privacy. But it's only against nosy neighbors, colleagues, bosses and similar. It, like any other messenger, won't help you against anything that glows.
I think there's a contradiction between wanting normal topics of conversation on the service and good opsec, so you'd have to convince normies to start using the service too. HTTPS had obvious utility for innocent-but-private communications like online banking, and torrenting saw some legitimate use for cheaply distributing large files like freeware ISOs, but I think the average person is willing to accept less secure services with larger preinstalled networks for something like chat or instant messaging.
Which is why I'm happy the IETF keeps improving HTTPS, even if it's extremely slow.
First let’s gooo
sometimes i think i should never left the irc
It's not to late to go back, I think. I still keep seeing IRC stuff around.
Believe it or not, after all these years, mIRC is still being maintained.
Finally someone talking about it..😄
Yeah, don't compare the privacy to Briar, a real serverless solution.
Thank you Richard Heart
Finally! My daily dose of anti glowy Mental Outlaw stuff.
"anti" glowy? You PSYOED yourself!!! 😅
Mr outlaw! Could you please do a video on the latest stuff that came out about the Godot engine? And the fork of it called REDOT? It would be awesome to give them some traction for their fork of the open source engine.
yeah no, i think mental outlaw is smarter than that
Mental outlaw is very informative. 672K subs, the establishment will be looking. Buffalo soldier.
You say that like OP isn't a fed himself herding everyone into the next data collecting scheme
Thanks for the vid! Where can we see this comparison sheet?
Now they just need to integrate I2P instead of Tor and it'll be perfect.