Climate Change with George Monbiot and George Marshall | Guardian Live
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- Despite the overwhelming evidence, the majority of us have become increasingly adept at ignoring or side-lining climate change. Most of us recognise the danger is real and yet we do nothing to stop it. As the Guardian sets out on its own climate change journey, George Marshall, one of the most eminent thinkers in the world on climate change talks to George Monbiot at a sold-out Guardian Live event on 13 May 2015 about why we are in denial and what we can do to stop it before it's too late.
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Regarding the first question as to why it was hardly mentioned during the last election: WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY. If we actually lived in a democracy every individual would have to be spending significantly more time researching the issues that impact their lives. Instead we leave it to the ruling class to select who we get to vote for. We leave it to the ruling class to write the laws and regulations. We leave it to the ruling class to determine what the focus of education will be. And because of the daily pressures people are subjected to to "make their way" in this Darwinian environment, they are all too glad to leave these decisions to the ruling class.
correct. and this is all by design. all republics devolve into totalitarianism. the us is just the latest example.
Shame the questions could not be heard by on line audience
If there is anything that helps us to grasp the necessary core of understanding about Climate Change ,I think it is we need to grasp and truly realise the place, function and how it plays out of The Water Cycle. It is the massive absence of a real understanding of how the Earth's Water Cycle is completely out of kilter and does not function as it naturally can. This combined with heat trapped within the Earth's atmosphere due to excess of carbon causes all other problems, often touched on but not resolved to any extent , that we are lost in.
climate change is always occurring. Man did not create it nor can stop it. We need to focus on pollution and rewilding our farm lands. Carbon is not a concern.
Why is nothing being done? Because we love to talk about problems, that's easy. But giving up our comfy, middle class, high carbon emissions "lifestyles", well, that's real, and that's way too hard. But not to worry, ultimately these gluttonous lifestyles will all go away when the climate goes Pleistocene...
They're misrepresenting Naomi Klein. She has never said "this is the big issue of the left". She's saying that climate change creates physical deadlines and that environmental recovery cannot take place under existing neo-liberal power structures - what she calls 'disaster capitalism'. The exploitation of fossil fuels is aligned, a priori, with neoliberalism; where an association exists between "the left" and climate activism, it is in response to this inherent causal relationship. In other words, it is not possible to have a wholly unplanned economy and take action on climate change at the same time.
Nice observations! So what Naomi was saying is that the "right" see climate change as the issue of the left. Marshal said, in brief passing, about the issue being "totemic" which relates to core identity. Therefore, the right see climate change as the flag of the enemy - and attack it. In polemic, it is the totem which rules the war - the enemy flag is burned as a statement of "othering" - an act of defining the identity of "us". Personally, I begin to wonder if I am in fact deeply conservative. The traditional left/right seem not to have noticed that both wings are increasingly divided about the role of the central state - I, for one, am becoming suspicious about increasing dependence on centralised power. In this I am most conservative - I'd rather see decentralisation - e.g. having off-the-grid solar power releases you from the power grid (a freedom) - and imposes strict power discipline: deferral of gratification: A very conservative value I regard as character-building.
Are We clearly and consistently, describing the difference between "Natural Climate Change" and "Man Made Climate Change"????
the two are intentionally conflated. there is no man-man climate change.
29:24 Seeing critical issues through the "lens of Our Own Values"! I don't know much about what to do about this. We all have Our values.
Maybe it is at the point where the issue is looked at by the value holder, that the "holder" has to have the emotional and mental ability to accurately ascertain the existent, or pending, impact of the issue. First of all, as much as possible, the discovering Truth of it...the coming impact if the issue is not resolved adequately. The lazy minded are at a distinct disadvantage here.
Maybe it was GOD himself/itself who said that the solution to every problem is within the problem itself, so perhaps all that is needed is to face the problems honestly and openly.
What a load of tripe.