My son read the Shock Doctrine when he was about 13. It completely changed his understanding of the world. Now he's the most politically savvy person I know, and he's only 16.
"Nobody has made more profit in a year, $45 bn, than Exxon (Esso), and yet, we are being asked to pay for the clean up of their pollution...." and finally Naomi does mention local ownership as in Denmark and Germany. There is actually a great movement in the UK for local ownership, whether in place or through widespread share sales, in Baywind and its off shoots.
Just on a technical note, why didn't you use the audio track from her mic throughout? when you cut to different angles, the sound got worse. Just a thought for future talks.
Sounds as though you think he's just out of short trousers, ha ha. When this video was made, Owen Jones was 30. He's a well known journalist and author. Check out his TH-cam channel for loads of interesting interviews.
Harry Matthews Of course, we all enjoy her forthcomingness, but we don't all necessarily agree with her. As a matter of fact, I can't imagine why really hardcore conservative politicians would not have a copy of her book to emblematize the types of liberal programs they would possibly want to oppose in future.
James Cook Naomi tells the truth about power and corruption, the more her books are read the sooner we will overcome the post capitalist corporate state that we all suffer from now!
Harry Matthews Its not difficult, The Sun for instance is the UKs biggest selling paper and lets be right, you have to be a moron to read that rag .Unfortunately their are a lot of non thinking brainless idiots about!
ALOO spud What you say may be true. Here she is largely promotes a narrative of combining our fears and concerns to support building a movement out of them, a sort of Marxist dream, in other words, that is so pleasant, it could never become corrupted.
Keeping growth in the population and economies while thinking renewables will make a difference is ignorant. Only degrowth can reduce emissions. Either way nothing meaningful will happen
+David Wardrop You have a conservative nationalist regional government there. You will have to have a nationalist party which is socialist if you want to change. After May the SNP will endorse fracking it already endorses Underground Coal Gasification in the most populated part of the country. Which illustrates that the health of the people is of no interest. You will shortly have the most intense surveillance system in the world. Like the other poor devil's we are "done up like a kipper" within a systemized totalitarian state. Good luck
A 1mw solar farm (nameplate capacity not actual saleable megawatts) is 2.5 acres. Do the math. A solar farm large enough to equal the output of a 1gw nuclear reactor is 15,000 acres.
There was a borderline unconscionable fracking commercial featuring a "geologist" on right before this started. And one for the very same Keystone XL Pipeline she mentions in the talk. Good to see we're winning. . Fucking disgusting. .
Just like private healthcare insurance in the U.S.-the most ideal conditions for profit are a captive consumer. This is going to be the same with climate change as well. Like private U.S. healthcare, it's going to be another situation of-your money or your life (or livelihood). If it's possible, whoever creates a viable large scale sequestration technology that is patentable and enforced will effectively have the world under it's thumb within the existing system of global trade. In fact, many of the reduction pathways in the latest IPCC reports rely on sequestration technologies that are complete science fiction at this point. Given this, it isn't beyond imagining that the fossil fuel industry that has created this problem will in all likelihood try and sell us the solution as well. Outside of government agencies there is no other industry that is as capitalized and operates at a scale that makes global sequestration feasible-in addition to having over a hundred plus years of extracting resources out of the ground. The infrastructure is mostly there, all they have to do is figure out how to put it back, and make us pay for it. And what choice will we have? Your money or your life...
The fact that a fellow Albertan refers to our province's main resource as the "tar" sands rather than oil sands speaks volumes. This is social terrorism in the making
Capitalism...capitalism...capitalism summarizes Climate Change. Write a book (or two), sell it. Having recently read Naomi Klein, for assignment, this is my opinion: My people, the Navajo are victims of colonization, capitalism and now globalization, yet, we survive. We hold to our language, lands, traditions and venture out to gain higher educations to understand our past, present and future. Our history of colonization is where our people experienced genocide, separation from land, family and language. Learning the lessons of the greediness that accompanies rivers of blood. The blood of our chéé’s (Grandparents) spills across our deserts calling for justice. Capitalism brought environmental and health atrocities. While Navajo lands remain rich in coal, water and uranium, capitalism is quick to claim and exploit the environment and people. Uranium mines continue to erode the environment and expose the Navajo people to long-term health concerns like cancers. Globalization, our future, introduces climate change not by Navajo hands but by governments who create competition for energy, food and water resources, and by creating regulations without considering damage to Mother Earth. Recently here in AZ we experienced forest fires, earthquakes, and droughts. These environmental wake up calls remind us that life is short and unpredictable despite science efforts. My place is to understanding climate change and then rally around the cause. "Crude that impoverishes us…impoverishes the world… (Klien pp. 370)” crosses borders creating new alliances such as the Cowboy and Indian alliance in Oregon. Residents, white and indigenous, stand side by side against environmental dangerous projects like the Keystone XL pipeline (Klien pp. 319). Alliance? Indigenous people know all too well the historical value of alliance. This leads me to ask: Will the alliance between today’s cowboys and Indians have equality? Will the dominate State (the United States of America and corporations) carry the beneficial weight while Indians carry the environmental and health atrocities as history reflects? One controversy in Navajo is the Language issue in politics. The Rosetta Stone in Navajo is available for a reduced price. My cousin posted to me, If Navajo Nation was so concerned for language retention this should be bought for every home. Even so, Naomi Klein should offered her books for "FREE" thereby making her message more about climate change minus the capitalistic (neoliberalism) note. Final point, we the people of Earth need to heed the warning signs of global warming, begin to give back to Mother Earth, and join the message Klein forgetting the lines of politics, race, or class. We are people of Earth let's act like it.
She couldn't have made a book for free, because no publisher would have agreed to it, and Klein wouldn't get an advance, and hence not be able to pay for food and housing while writing the book. I am a critic of capitalism but this isn't a defensible critique of Mrs. Klein.
I agree that understanding the past is important, (and critically important for indigenous people trying to preserve their identity). However, I would say writing and reading books are one of the ways in which western culture tries to accomplish this. Like Evan Peters says here in reply. She's trying to gain and share her understanding within our soci-cultural system. If she wants to share her knowledge, and people value it, gotta sell it (for now).
Hi, please let me take a moment to say a word about thorium fission, for him is a nuclear energy source that was first developed at the Oak Ridge national laboratory in the 1960s and is a completely safe non-carbon producing non-nuclear waste producing Energy source with in estimated easily obtainable natural reserve of 10,000 years, Let me repeat it again, there is enough thorium ore lying around to last the entire world economy 10,000 years. The molten salt thorium fission process, Furthermore is operated at one atmosphere, So when I say molten salt thorium fission is completely safe That is to say get is not capable of exploding, As pressure on both sides of the reactor containment wall are the same. Thorium fission is also as stated in incredibly clean producing no long-lasting nuclear waste whatsoever, in fact waste plutonium 232 from Standard light water reactors and atomic bombs can be incorporated into the molten salt Core and the remains of its potential energy can be extracted, furthermore with close to a 75% efficiency Capture oppose to the .7% of the standard light water reactor we can afford to not only make this a Carbon neutral but a carbon negative virtually closed loop energy system. Thorium fission beads out nearly every other conceivable energy source except for Fusion which as always is 50 years away from possible viability. So in other words we could in a cost efficient manner using the well-known, Haber-Bosch, Process extract carbon out of the atmosphere. Let me finally just say, that most of the wars being fought in the middle east and Central Asia, can be regarded in general, as resource wars, a massive transfer to a thorium based economy would not only make everyone Energy independent overnight but would help to obfuscate the need for such self-destructive behavior. Thank you for taking the time to read this and please feel free to research any of this that you care to, peace.
Hi thanks for the feedback, I and really just trying to spread the word about thorium technology as its implications to solve many global problems are obvious, and generally the world is filled with such gloom, very often spread by intelligent people that if put blinders on. Anyway thanks again and tell a friend about thorium, if you're inclined, Peace.
Hmm, a quick Wikipedia check says start up costs are huge and 'Development of breeder reactors in general (including thorium reactors, which are breeders by nature) will increase proliferation concerns.' The article also says they are starting to gain traction again though. 'Between 1999 and 2022, the number of operational thorium reactors in the world has risen from zero[4] to a handful of research reactors,[5] to commercial plans for producing full-scale thorium-based reactors for use as power plants on a national scale.'
Can you explain why nuclear fusion is never mentioned when people are discussiong the environment? If ITER had been properly funded we would now know that teh technology works and be starting to build fusion power stations.
I'm not an expert but I think the research for fusion is still a long way off - even with extra funding. It's not worth talking about because settling the publics worries on false hope for some magic bullet solution to the problem and also just distracts from more productive debate.
The ITER project is now at least a decade behind schedule because of funding problems (the USA have pulled out once, rejoined and threatened to pull out again). Without the potential of fusion being presented to the public as the only realistic method of generating the vast amount of power the world will need as living standards improve it will be difficult for governments to fund the research and development.
+C Dtrick Wow I never new that it was produced by Leonardo DiCaprio. I looked it up and actually you are right. I haven't seen his Oscar speech yet but its on my to do list.
Dudes, on a lecture like this you don't need to cut from close-up sound to wide sound with the camera cuts; it's really annoying. Please get your act together if you want to be taken seriously.
Stop business royalties for such important issues. It's the same of silence: Private ownership of the contents, in environmental matters and environmental disasters, is equivalent to censorship. By doing so they are not different from denialists. "This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs the Climate" should have been spread, in fact, in the name of "NO LOGO" ..! : p
Very interesting what Naomi has to say. However... there are corners of this world where nothing of what she thinks about and says matters at all. Like here where I live. I live in Germany. There is no (awareness of) climate change here. Just ask anyone in the street. Some few people might remember that there was talk about climate change years ago but that has been forgotten. What they might also tell you is that there appears to be an abundance of oil so it is cheap to fill up your car. They like this. The only worry some people have is too many foreigners in the country. Climate change? Who cares... Not even the Green Party.
Johannes Kiessling That is interesting news to me. I remember when Green Peace and the Green Party where very influential in German domestic politics in the 80's
Johannes Kiessling And yet Germany is "huge" in terms of renewable energy - so I hear it is ahead of the rest of Europe and developing ways to store energy using solar power (and CO2) to make methane for example ...
This woman bangs on and on without saying anything... Get to the fkking point, and make it. Did she even address the issue of nuclear??? I didn't listen, I just jumped WTF you supposed to do?
A very timid audience, when Naomi said "We need those massive public investments so that we don't brutalise ourselves." Like massive massive applause didn't happen. It's now 2019 and I'm reviewing the material as spread to Fire. We still need those massive public investments.
I’m hoping this is not just a ‘climate’ change lecture. Climate always changes-and it’s predictable from sunspot studies that go back centuries. It is not JUST about fossil fuels and carbon in our atmosphere- focusing on just these issues side step the greater damage of forest destruction, poisoning out waterways, underground waters, our oceans, the horrible chemicals, lead and mercury (to name but two franked-chemicals), and the horrors we do to our growing fields and the lands of our cities and towns. The ‘climate change’ crusade is but a cruel distractor, to take our focus off all the damage we are doing to our own planet, and the sun's influence on our planetary neighbours and the earth. I am hoping this is what Ms Klein is focusing on. Governments are collecting the extra taxes we are being forced to pay but what are they using the money for? Namaste and care, mhikl edited for horrible errors--I thought I had read again before publishing.
redant is that what you did in order to ensure they were all reaching independent conclusions? Or did you follow the band wagon into believing the majority?
Darryld1 What I did was to evaluate the science. It just seemed the reasonable thing to do. The results are scary, but hiding one's head in the sand won't change the facts.
+Riley Mcleod 1939 Germany was ruled by Fascists, not Socialists. if you check on the meaning of those two words you may find that your concerns about Socialism is unfounded. They are diametrically opposed to each other, at opposite ends of the political spectrum!
+Colin Wedd National Socialist . They took back power to print money from the international bankers - that was the reason for Hitler's popularity , but a no no for the banks . Anyways , Socialist Communist Fascist - it is all run by the same banks and always results in death of poor people .
Tariq Ali , Norman Finkelstein , Noam Chomski , along with a lot of 'Leftists ' signed a petition for Assad Step Down . Basically they are just serving the deep state . They do not know what is going on ? They are stupid ? How does it work out that way ? The Left as a support for the working class is no longer viable nor has a single brilliant intellectual among them . This does not constitute hate for the left - rather , I regret the demise of the left .
Um um um um um um..... I can't listen to this boring woman. She starts her talk with info we all already have heard many times. Did Owen Jones meet her on his paper round?
The world WILL solve the energy problem. Nuclear energy will provide clean cheap electricity with limitless thorium as fuel. This transition will take decades. Until this happens the world will stagnate.
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My son read the Shock Doctrine when he was about 13. It completely changed his understanding of the world. Now he's the most politically savvy person I know, and he's only 16.
"Nobody has made more profit in a year, $45 bn, than Exxon (Esso), and yet, we are being asked to pay for the clean up of their pollution...." and finally Naomi does mention local ownership as in Denmark and Germany. There is actually a great movement in the UK for local ownership, whether in place or through widespread share sales, in Baywind and its off shoots.
Just on a technical note, why didn't you use the audio track from her mic throughout? when you cut to different angles, the sound got worse. Just a thought for future talks.
I don't know how old this guy is, but he sounds like he's been interviewing/introducing people for 100 years. Well done. Now, for the main speaker.
Sounds as though you think he's just out of short trousers, ha ha. When this video was made, Owen Jones was 30. He's a well known journalist and author. Check out his TH-cam channel for loads of interesting interviews.
he's the babyfaced assassin
He's 14.
He reminds me of the babyfaced TV presenter from Father Ted
I struggle to imagine the type of person that would 'dislike' this interview
I don't 🐵
Harry Matthews Of course, we all enjoy her forthcomingness, but we don't all necessarily agree with her. As a matter of fact, I can't imagine why really hardcore conservative politicians would not have a copy of her book to emblematize the types of liberal programs they would possibly want to oppose in future.
James Cook Naomi tells the truth about power and corruption, the more her books are read the sooner we will overcome the post capitalist corporate state that we all suffer from now!
Harry Matthews Its not difficult, The Sun for instance is the UKs biggest selling paper and lets be right, you have to be a moron to read that rag .Unfortunately their are a lot of non thinking brainless idiots about!
ALOO spud What you say may be true. Here she is largely promotes a narrative of combining our fears and concerns to support building a movement out of them, a sort of Marxist dream, in other words, that is so pleasant, it could never become corrupted.
a very important book
Ontario:
Over the next 20 years, your household will pay an additional $60,000 for electricity.
This is brilliant should be 3K not 300 likes...
Keeping growth in the population and economies while thinking renewables will make a difference is ignorant. Only degrowth can reduce emissions. Either way nothing meaningful will happen
How many times does she say "in the book"
'um'....great talk.
7th May, 2015, Britain (England) voted Conservative. Actually, nothing changes.
+M Chapman Update: Jeremy Corbyn is now leader of the opposition. Things do change.
+M Chapman Would like to things are a bit different in Scotland.
+David Wardrop You have a conservative nationalist regional government there. You will have to have a nationalist party which is socialist if you want to change. After May the SNP will endorse fracking it already endorses Underground Coal Gasification in the most populated part of the country. Which illustrates that the health of the people is of no interest. You will shortly have the most intense surveillance system in the world. Like the other poor devil's we are "done up like a kipper" within a systemized totalitarian state. Good luck
+M Chapman Since then things have changed. Corbyn in the UK and Sanders in the US. People do have their limits.
2019: Boris Johnson is now your prime minister...
A 1mw solar farm (nameplate capacity not actual saleable megawatts) is 2.5 acres. Do the math. A solar farm large enough to equal the output of a 1gw nuclear reactor is 15,000 acres.
Naomi is one of my biggest role models!
Chris Hedges should be next!
We need to get past Left or Right Politics in a Universe with (at least) 3 Dimensions if we want to remain the 'dominant species'.
+John Belchamber I've heard that said before, though mostly by people in charge pursuing right wing agendas. It's meaningless of course.
we're not broke how the fuck can we owe 'money' to false entities
There was a borderline unconscionable fracking commercial featuring a "geologist" on right before this started. And one for the very same Keystone XL Pipeline she mentions in the talk. Good to see we're winning. . Fucking disgusting. .
We all need same air
We were marching against this shit in 1968. We forgot and now it's here
never let a bad situation go to waste !!!!!
Just like private healthcare insurance in the U.S.-the most ideal conditions for profit are a captive consumer. This is going to be the same with climate change as well. Like private U.S. healthcare, it's going to be another situation of-your money or your life (or livelihood).
If it's possible, whoever creates a viable large scale sequestration technology that is patentable and enforced will effectively have the world under it's thumb within the existing system of global trade. In fact, many of the reduction pathways in the latest IPCC reports rely on sequestration technologies that are complete science fiction at this point.
Given this, it isn't beyond imagining that the fossil fuel industry that has created this problem will in all likelihood try and sell us the solution as well. Outside of government agencies there is no other industry that is as capitalized and operates at a scale that makes global sequestration feasible-in addition to having over a hundred plus years of extracting resources out of the ground. The infrastructure is mostly there, all they have to do is figure out how to put it back, and make us pay for it. And what choice will we have?
Your money or your life...
The fact that a fellow Albertan refers to our province's main resource as the "tar" sands rather than oil sands speaks volumes. This is social terrorism in the making
Owen still has to use a potty at Guardian HQ I guess.
Capitalism...capitalism...capitalism summarizes Climate Change. Write a book (or two), sell it.
Having recently read Naomi Klein, for assignment, this is my opinion:
My people, the Navajo are victims of colonization, capitalism and now globalization, yet, we survive. We hold to our language, lands, traditions and venture out to gain higher educations to understand our past, present and future.
Our history of colonization is where our people experienced genocide, separation from land, family and language. Learning the lessons of the greediness that accompanies rivers of blood. The blood of our chéé’s (Grandparents) spills across our deserts calling for justice.
Capitalism brought environmental and health atrocities. While Navajo lands remain rich in coal, water and uranium, capitalism is quick to claim and exploit the environment and people. Uranium mines continue to erode the environment and expose the Navajo people to long-term health concerns like cancers.
Globalization, our future, introduces climate change not by Navajo hands but by governments who create competition for energy, food and water resources, and by creating regulations without considering damage to Mother Earth. Recently here in AZ we experienced forest fires, earthquakes, and droughts. These environmental wake up calls remind us that life is short and unpredictable despite science efforts. My place is to understanding climate change and then rally around the cause.
"Crude that impoverishes us…impoverishes the world… (Klien pp. 370)” crosses borders creating new alliances such as the Cowboy and Indian alliance in Oregon. Residents, white and indigenous, stand side by side against environmental dangerous projects like the Keystone XL pipeline (Klien pp. 319). Alliance? Indigenous people know all too well the historical value of alliance. This leads me to ask: Will the alliance between today’s cowboys and Indians have equality? Will the dominate State (the United States of America and corporations) carry the beneficial weight while Indians carry the environmental and health atrocities as history reflects?
One controversy in Navajo is the Language issue in politics. The Rosetta Stone in Navajo is available for a reduced price. My cousin posted to me, If Navajo Nation was so concerned for language retention this should be bought for every home. Even so, Naomi Klein should offered her books for "FREE" thereby making her message more about climate change minus the capitalistic (neoliberalism) note.
Final point, we the people of Earth need to heed the warning signs of global warming, begin to give back to Mother Earth, and join the message Klein forgetting the lines of politics, race, or class. We are people of Earth let's act like it.
She couldn't have made a book for free, because no publisher would have agreed to it, and Klein wouldn't get an advance, and hence not be able to pay for food and housing while writing the book. I am a critic of capitalism but this isn't a defensible critique of Mrs. Klein.
I agree that understanding the past is important, (and critically important for indigenous people trying to preserve their identity). However, I would say writing and reading books are one of the ways in which western culture tries to accomplish this. Like Evan Peters says here in reply. She's trying to gain and share her understanding within our soci-cultural system. If she wants to share her knowledge, and people value it, gotta sell it (for now).
What did you think of the actual book? I'd be curious to know as I haven't read it myself.
Hi, please let me take a moment to say a word about thorium fission, for him is a nuclear energy source that was first developed at the Oak Ridge national laboratory in the 1960s and is a completely safe non-carbon producing non-nuclear waste producing Energy source with in estimated easily obtainable natural reserve of 10,000 years, Let me repeat it again, there is enough thorium ore lying around to last the entire world economy 10,000 years. The molten salt thorium fission process, Furthermore is operated at one atmosphere, So when I say molten salt thorium fission is completely safe That is to say get is not capable of exploding, As pressure on both sides of the reactor containment wall are the same. Thorium fission is also as stated in incredibly clean producing no long-lasting nuclear waste whatsoever, in fact waste plutonium 232 from Standard light water reactors and atomic bombs can be incorporated into the molten salt Core and the remains of its potential energy can be extracted, furthermore with close to a 75% efficiency Capture oppose to the .7% of the standard light water reactor we can afford to not only make this a Carbon neutral but a carbon negative virtually closed loop energy system. Thorium fission beads out nearly every other conceivable energy source except for Fusion which as always is 50 years away from possible viability. So in other words we could in a cost efficient manner using the well-known, Haber-Bosch, Process extract carbon out of the atmosphere. Let me finally just say, that most of the wars being fought in the middle east and Central Asia, can be regarded in general, as resource wars, a massive transfer to a thorium based economy would not only make everyone Energy independent overnight but would help to obfuscate the need for such self-destructive behavior. Thank you for taking the time to read this and please feel free to research any of this that you care to, peace.
Hi thanks for the feedback, I and really just trying to spread the word about thorium technology as its implications to solve many global problems are obvious, and generally the world is filled with such gloom, very often spread by intelligent people that if put blinders on. Anyway thanks again and tell a friend about thorium, if you're inclined, Peace.
yep, looking into this now, it's making more and more sense, great explanation, thank you
Why is thorium fission not being done do you know?
Hmm, a quick Wikipedia check says start up costs are huge and 'Development of breeder reactors in general (including thorium reactors, which are breeders by nature) will increase proliferation concerns.' The article also says they are starting to gain traction again though. 'Between 1999 and 2022, the number of operational thorium reactors in the world has risen from zero[4] to a handful of research reactors,[5] to commercial plans for producing full-scale thorium-based reactors for use as power plants on a national scale.'
Can you explain why nuclear fusion is never mentioned when people are discussiong the environment? If ITER had been properly funded we would now know that teh technology works and be starting to build fusion power stations.
I'm not an expert but I think the research for fusion is still a long way off - even with extra funding. It's not worth talking about because settling the publics worries on false hope for some magic bullet solution to the problem and also just distracts from more productive debate.
The ITER project is now at least a decade behind schedule because of funding problems (the USA have pulled out once, rejoined and threatened to pull out again). Without the potential of fusion being presented to the public as the only realistic method of generating the vast amount of power the world will need as living standards improve it will be difficult for governments to fund the research and development.
Argh. Want to listen to this. But that audio. That echo. :-/
If interested in climate change issues also check out Cowspiracy on Netflix, a documentary produced by Leonardo DiCaprio.
+C Dtrick Wow I never new that it was produced by Leonardo DiCaprio. I looked it up and actually you are right. I haven't seen his Oscar speech yet but its on my to do list.
Watch Kiss the ground also on Netflix. Chasing coral. SEASPIRACY will be on Netflix on March 24.2021 - about the ocean
Dudes, on a lecture like this you don't need to cut from close-up sound to wide sound with the camera cuts; it's really annoying. Please get your act together if you want to be taken seriously.
I am just interested in what Owen Jones has to say.
"Californian drought" as in what happens when you live near or in a desert? What about the great Saharan drought?
Fair Share Policy
Stop business royalties for such important issues. It's the same of silence: Private ownership of the contents, in environmental matters and environmental disasters, is equivalent to censorship. By doing so they are not different from denialists. "This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs the Climate" should have been spread, in fact, in the name of "NO LOGO" ..! : p
Dear Naomi Klein and Woe Jones, Wish a MERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR WITH ALL PROSPERITY IN 2015.
Bring on Anarcho syndicalism!
@15:30 she speaks way too much truth
Caroline Lucas rulz...
3:31
Love how little Naomi Klein cares when they're running out of time, while Owen Jones is tweaking and fidgeting.
Of course. I should have realized that I'm just another "conspiracy theorist" with an overactive imagination. How silly of me.
The banksters are HOARDING
you have no idea what poverty is .!
Seems like a distant dream in India
Owen ... Stop "calling to arms" and rather get people on their feet.
Very interesting what Naomi has to say. However... there are corners of this world where nothing of what she thinks about and says matters at all. Like here where I live. I live in Germany. There is no (awareness of) climate change here. Just ask anyone in the street. Some few people might remember that there was talk about climate change years ago but that has been forgotten. What they might also tell you is that there appears to be an abundance of oil so it is cheap to fill up your car. They like this. The only worry some people have is too many foreigners in the country. Climate change? Who cares... Not even the Green Party.
Johannes Kiessling That is interesting news to me. I remember when Green Peace and the Green Party where very influential in German domestic politics in the 80's
Johannes Kiessling And yet Germany is "huge" in terms of renewable energy - so I hear it is ahead of the rest of Europe and developing ways to store energy using solar power (and CO2) to make methane for example ...
Johannes Kiessling do not tell pork pies. the green party are known across germany. also people do care. go spit in the wind.
What happened to all these MOVEMENTS?
Stuff-It,
Naomi-
On behalf of Canada, I'd just like to apologize for foisting Klein on the rest of the world.
What makes you say that?
Not keen on her politics.
Not one reference to a scientific study or scientist to bolster her blather-
This woman bangs on and on without saying anything...
Get to the fkking point, and make it. Did she even address the issue of nuclear??? I didn't listen, I just jumped WTF you supposed to do?
lol "the issue of nuclear". You might be Trump's speech writer by now.
wow - what a long winded pontification of the obvious
Sadly, there is no shortage of dumb people ... many cannot figure out how obvious it really is.
23:06
😊😊😊
A very timid audience, when Naomi said "We need those massive public investments so that we don't brutalise ourselves." Like massive massive applause didn't happen. It's now 2019 and I'm reviewing the material as spread to Fire. We still need those massive public investments.
Those public investments haven't come: more profit for the energy companies, and more totalitarian rule has come instead
Too many people not enough planet end of.
I’m hoping this is not just a ‘climate’ change lecture. Climate always changes-and it’s predictable from sunspot studies that go back centuries. It is not JUST about fossil fuels and carbon in our atmosphere- focusing on just these issues side step the greater damage of forest destruction, poisoning out waterways, underground waters, our oceans, the horrible chemicals, lead and mercury (to name but two franked-chemicals), and the horrors we do to our growing fields and the lands of our cities and towns.
The ‘climate change’ crusade is but a cruel distractor, to take our focus off all the damage we are doing to our own planet, and the sun's influence on our planetary neighbours and the earth.
I am hoping this is what Ms Klein is focusing on.
Governments are collecting the extra taxes we are being forced to pay but what are they using the money for?
Namaste and care,
mhikl
edited for horrible errors--I thought I had read again before publishing.
If interested in climate change issues also check out Cowspiracy on Netflix, a documentary produced by Leonardo DiCaprio.
It's not 'our' planet!
+Mhi kl Tell you what, why not check out every scientific academy on the face of planet just to see if there's even one that agrees with you?
redant is that what you did in order to ensure they were all reaching independent conclusions? Or did you follow the band wagon into believing the majority?
Darryld1 What I did was to evaluate the science. It just seemed the reasonable thing to do. The results are scary, but hiding one's head in the sand won't change the facts.
This is GARBAGE how can anyone take anything you say seriously ?
The elit said the climate would fit the bill. So the masses will do as we say will be needed.
She's brilliant
I'm sorry but it kind of sounds like 1939 in Germany. Socialist is not good it just sounds good .
+Riley Mcleod 1939 Germany was ruled by Fascists, not Socialists. if you check on the meaning of those two words you may find that your concerns about Socialism is unfounded. They are diametrically opposed to each other, at opposite ends of the political spectrum!
+Colin Wedd National Socialist . They took back power to print money from the international bankers - that was the reason for Hitler's popularity , but a no no for the banks . Anyways , Socialist Communist Fascist - it is all run by the same banks and always results in death of poor people .
You can have right wing fascists you know. You talk as if fascists are left wing, which is not at all true.
Tariq Ali , Norman Finkelstein , Noam Chomski , along with a lot of 'Leftists ' signed a petition for Assad Step Down . Basically they are just serving the deep state . They do not know what is going on ? They are stupid ? How does it work out that way ? The Left as a support for the working class is no longer viable nor has a single brilliant intellectual among them . This does not constitute hate for the left - rather , I regret the demise of the left .
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Um um um um um um..... I can't listen to this boring woman. She starts her talk with info we all already have heard many times.
Did Owen Jones meet her on his paper round?
If interested in climate change issues also check out Cowspiracy on Netflix, a documentary produced by Leonardo DiCaprio.
Sad socialist's venezuela ????
The world WILL solve the energy problem. Nuclear energy will provide clean cheap electricity with limitless thorium as fuel. This transition will take decades. Until this happens the world will stagnate.