l loved hearing her squealing with terrified laughter as she crossed on that wire to the island in the first episode this season. She is a ray of light !
First: Thank you so much Reijer Zaaijer for sharing Time Team with those of us who can only watch it in this format. I have watched the entire series once already and am now on my second "watch-through". Second: The hostility for Mary Ann I believe has to do more with change and the introduction of new caste members with die-hard fans of the show more than anything to do with her personality or qualifications. I was of the belief that Tony was the Host, or "television presenter" as he sometimes referred to himself, of the show throughout, and never thought of anyone else as a "Co-Host", as it was not needed. Mick I loved in all his gruffness and slightly crazy professor image, no matter what. In any event, I only wished the series could have found a way to continue. I have watched the American version of Time Team, and well, it was a good try, but lacked something, (most likely it just lacked; Romans, Anglo-Saxons, unexpected roundhouse finds,Tony, Phil, Stuart, John... and so on, lol).
It doesn't help Mary Ann when the producers stick her in a sports car with a multi-millionaire, and have them come roaring up with boobs bouncing and her mega-watt smile firmly fixed on the gentleman. None of her credentials mean crap when she asks him for another "spin" before getting down to archaeology business. ( Time Team S19-E07 The Only Earl Is Essex). They totally turned her into a coy tart. After seasons of down-to-earth women like Brigid, Raksha, Helen and the little diggers, it's really hard to watch now.
I can imagine everyone getting together to go to the race course all dolled up..and Phil showing up after maybe, probably not, cleaning his boots and when everyone laughed he prob just said "Wot!" lol
The real travesty was that they got rid of Helen Geake. What were they thinking? Nothing wrong with the new people but they just don't really fit. And why would they ever lessen the role of Stewart, the genius-in-residence?
They moved production to Wales and lost a lot of the crew because they didn't want to move. Stewart and Helen are still in some episodes but not all, apparently for the same reason. I miss their personalities and deep expertise.
My horse is descended from Eclipse, so I found this very informative and interesting despite the filler fluff. That trip to the toy shop had absolutely no purpose in the show but to fill time.
@@corneliawissing7950 indeed. Tho Timeteam was a tv show, now uploaded on various channels here. Actually, at that rate, one could say that the whole show is a subtle advertisement.😂
@@meemurthelemur4811 Probably. What they are advertising to me is the history of Britain, because they know so much. I'm even beginning to have a sort of timeline in my head, and I'm a 78 year old woman and not from the UK.
good old phil he turned up in his dutch jumper and his battered hat to watch the G G s true to form and hes not in the least intimidated, by all those well dressed people
I'm not sure, but this may be the first time Dr. Jackie McKinley was made Site Director. I wish they had continued the trend to promote team members to Directors. Raksha Dave would have been a great Site Director. The office types who ruined this show starting "lightening up" the show 3-4 years before this season. However, all at once they dumped the production crew, replaced a lot of the diggers, brought in two new (one inexperienced) presenters, cut corners on experts, and introduced more non-archaeology. That plus changing the air dates around resulted in the death of the show. Mary-Ann Ochota was sort of a lightning rod for complaints. Although she had the education, she didn't have any field experience to speak of, unlike the other young women from earlier (Carenza Lewis and Helen Geake). The producers did both her and Mick Aston a disservice, and the viewers are the ones who have suffered the loss of a formerly great series.
And OMG her teeth are FREAKIN HUGE!!! If they found her skeleton, they'd say "well, it definitely has female brow ridges, but GIGANTIC male teeth, so we have no idea what sex it is...🤷♂️" 😂🤣😂🤣 As soon as they brought her in, Time Team quality started going downhill, then suddenly just like you said, they just absolutely killed it. Such a shame, because it was a phenomenal informative show - had me digging in my own back yard... In the US... 😂🤣
Having watched the entire series from the beginning of the uploads, for which Reijer Zaaijer must be sincerely thanked, I have enjoyed the constant comradery, joking, and friendly rivalry (amongst other things) that the members of Time Team, and their hosts/hostesses have displayed. That all changed with the introduction of the two new members, especially the female, whose qualifications I do not know, and the same level of teamwork appears to have become seriously diminished, although it still appears to be retained between themselves. There are odd moments when they attempt to include the new people but with a distinct lack of enthusiasm most of the time. Phil is usually the easiest going member but even he can be seen glancing sideways at her when she makes obtuse statements and observations.
She's got a masters in archaeology apparently. She was obviously bought in to play the 'enthusiastic amateur' role that Tony played for all of those years. It doesn't work though as she's of a totally different social group to the rest of the team. The other guy seems to be a straight swap for Stewart, which again ruins the whole team ethos as Stewart and John's insights and squabbles were what made the programme so watchable.
What is the point of the Ochota? Social anthropology? Rather, decoration? And it sounds like someone else is writing the new "friendly Tony's" lines. No wonder Mick bailed. And without Mick choosing digs, we get this.
*Mary-Ann* is highly qualified in archæology but the producers changed how she was used. Originally she was to help take the load off *Tony.* She and *Mick* left at the same time.
A person can be extremely qualified, but if that (and personality) doesn’t translate to the medium ... especially if they don’t really *appear* to do much .... they’re not going to go over well.
im sorry but i just have to say it, i was brought up in the country and have seen horses close up, and every time mary ann smiles, those teeth remind me of horses
I have watched the last few episodes and the changes are not bad. I think with two many presenters takes up to much time and cuts the dig time down. Ah ha Helen is back.
Thumbs up for Time Team, even if the series isn´t what it was it still rocks. Sad that the young archaeologists don´t have the charisma this series needs :/, what about hiring some more charismatic people we all could relate to :)
I have seen this episode at least 3 times and every time, I start wanting to read (or rather reread) Dick Frances' mystery novels. Now, where did I put those books?
Can't say this was a very good episode as it didn't really answer their initial question and so resorted to showing lots of filler. They start with a map, and saying it was a big stable near a race track, but they need evidence that it housed race horses, not just regular horses. And after 3 days of digging they concluded that it was a big stable near a race track THEREFORE probably housed race horses. The only real unknown they covered is that the wall that showed up on the geophysics was a similar phase of construction as the rest, rather than being an earlier phase, but they just told you that in 30s at the end. You didn't get to see them work it out as in older time teams. There was very little mystery and discovery, which the older series were good on, and it just feels more scripted and less spontaneous.
No, it’s not ; in fact, there were a number of later episodes without him, either because he really wasn’t keen on Roman sites (he’s a medievalist), or because he was in poor health.
I've seen so many people complaining about Mary-Ann and Alex. Why? What exactly did either of them say or do? Mary-Ann is educated in the subjects of archaeology and anthropology, she has the credentials to present the info, sure she is awkward at times, but think back to the start of time team and how often was Tony or any of the others kinda awkward in some situations, people need to remember the show was running for about 18 years before they brought in Mary-Ann, you cannot expect her to just jump right in and have no awkwardness with people that have been working together for years and years. Yes, Alex was brought in to replace Stewart, however think how long the show had already been running, Stewart wasn't really young back then either, he was getting up there in years and probably wanting to retire or semi-retire so they needed someone to take his place. Do you people have any actual problems or issues with Mary-Ann and Alex or is it just that you don't like change and want everything to stay the same and if it doesn't stay the same then we should not have it at all?
The first episode with Alex, he pointed out field boundaries that were clearly on the surface, it didn't look like he did any kind of serious map reading or field walking. And Mary shows no intelligence, scripted Tony questions. If it's the producers fault that they look useless, fair enough.
The comments blaming the two new additions to the time team lineup for the demise of the show are stupid. The decision to add them was the producers, save your ire for them. Mary Ann has degrees in both archeology an anthropology. Alex is a renowned archaeologist with several BBC history programs under his belt. Put the blame where the blame is due, not on these two.
Well, I'm glad to learn it was the producers who wouldn't let them do their jobs instead of incompetence. You'd think they would have raised a stink at being made to look like this.
Mary Ann left the second her contract expired and was very upset with how she was used. (Remember, lot of her final portrayal was probably the result of editing and didn't reflect what was actually filmed.) Both she and Alex have had successful careers since which also suggests it was the fault of the producers and editing, not their expertise in the field.
Watching this episode I can understand why Mick had problems with the show at this time. All the horse racing faffing about with Mary Ann was just unneeded fluff.
@@scarletfluerr you twit, the vast majority of the human population has crooked teeth. Do yourself a favor, and stick to Fortnite streams. Leave the thinky thinky to those with more substantial wrinkled grey matter.
@@jenniferholden9397 her inclusion led to the shows cancelation, so nobody is watching anymore. Furthermore, who the hell are you to tell anyone what to do, or even to judge their opinion? Get back under the bridge, you troll.
Raksha, Brigid, Carenza - these were the smart, hard working, relevant and beautiful ladies of Time Team. Everyone knows Mick was often a grumpy old fart, but in this case, he was right. Mary Ann's fake-o smile and her degree in Bimbology ruined the final season of this wonderful show.
@@scarletfluerr she's yet to do or say something of real substance.. so, I'm no fan either. this show didn't need someone who mostly just stands around and tries to look pretty.
@@MegaSmk they made her play the idiot the same way Tony has for 19 years, but sexism and ageism makes a huge difference for how the person who asks those questions is seen.
@@morrigan191 tony isn't an "anthropologist specialising in archaeology and social history", as she claims to be. I have been watching her for eight or nine episodes now (and I'm not quick with critique), and I wish she would start proving that her diplomas are worth the paper they're written on.
The hate for Mary-Ann is absolutely ludicrous. She's got a Master's degree in Anthropology and Archeology from Cambridge University. Her credentials match or exceed most of the cast members of Time Team, going back to the origins of the show. She's got an excellent education in the appropriate field of study for a program based on archeology, and they brought her in to be a CO-HOST. That's the real insult. Mick was a remarkable personality and a good historian, but he acted like an asshole about Mary-Ann, and pitched a temper tantrum and left even after the BBC gave in to his wishes and decided not to renew her contract. She was treated like shit, and was basically forced out of a role that she was good at. The show lasted for 20 years, and was in a noticeable decline for the last 4-5 of those. Mick had a personality clash with her, pure and simple. His legacy is solid, but his behavior towards the cast of Time Team in its last years is a disgrace. Tony didn't understand it either, based on several interviews he gave before Mick's death.
+The Choll Mick did not quit solely because of Mary-Ann. There was a lot more to it than just a new co-host. Starting with their 200th episode, Channel 4 decided to move their production base from London to Cardiff, causing the original production team that was with them for 18 years to be disbanded. C4 had been messing with the format for a while. Starting at about series 16 they started to focus less on the archaeology and more on what Mick called faffing about, but there was still quite a lot of archaeological information in the show. In this series, they changed the formatting radically. Then C4 changed up the viewing times and of course the show lost numbers. The addition of 2 new cast members at the expense of Helen and Stewart, who are much more informative and knowledgeable, is what broke Mick's back. Not Mary-Ann herself. It was reported scandalously in the Daily Mail as being all down to her, but that's not the truth of the matter. Mick was well aware of the network doing all this because they wanted to give the show the axe. TT was just about C4's most expensive show to produce and the trend was going towards stupid reality TV with high viewership. C4 wanted to add cheaper to produce shows to their schedule, but until TT lost viewing numbers, there wasn't a good enough reason to cancel it.
+Fedra Haldane Too bad these things happen , this show is one of my favourites, and very good quality. I learned so much about Britain and archeology; but , maybe like Toni said it will return in a few years ....
you never want to be the FNG....the person who replaces the favorite member of the band/show/sports team. no matter what you do...how good you are...how hard you try you will almost NEVER win. People didn't really give mary ann a chance. poor gal. I would love to hear what her era/subject is her fave and talk about things. I bet she would surprise us. as a yank from the Midwest I love these shows. so damned interesting.
It's obvious people didn't give Mary Anne a chance. And although I have no idea why Mick left other than what I have read here, it sure seems way out of character for him to throw a tantrum over something so petty.
Mick must have been livid at being made to ask Alex stupid questions, like in the last episode. "Oh, look, aren't there some more stones here? Could that be another wall?" Actually, Alex annoys me more than MaryAnne.
The fact that you're disrespectful enough to refer to her as "that woman" instead of her name means you're not very intelligent and most of the show would be lost on you anyway.
@@scarletfluerr you do realize that her inclusion was what led to the death of the show, right? Despite her education, she has no practical field experience, and was brought on solely for aesthetics. That decision led to the departure of Mick, Stewart, Helen, and others. The fact that you don't know that tells me that most of reality is lost on you.
@@SkunkApe407 Mick, Stewart and Helen are still in this series but not in every episode. This show was already dying before Mary Ann arrived and she left it at the same time as Mick. C4 changed lots of things to try and balance the budget and restore viewing figures but with limited success. But they still carried on making TT specials so we still had plenty to watch and be informed by.
@@richardphillips6281 Mick was quite clear about his reasons for leaving. The "dumbing down" of the show was his biggest gripe. Maryann was hired right before he said that. There are dozens of articles on the internet that state that very fact.
@@SkunkApe407 Yes you are right about what Mick said but your comment was that Mary Anns' inclusion was what killed the show when that is not the case.
@The Choll > well she is young, a woman and she is pretty. Oh and did I mention.... shes a woman. All traits that will work against her. A young woman that dont look like a dustbin on legs cant be clever also ... right ?
Unfortunately, it appears a lot of people assumed that. I get so tired of reading comments based on her looks and assumptions that she is stupid. It was never questioned with Tony. I have read the comments on every one of these videos more than once and never saw one person bring it up. But with a woman it's a common response. It seems like it's the same old problem professional women face in so many positions. The men are assumed to be smarter and better educated, or not even questioned about it at all, but a woman is questioned and has to prove herself to even be on a level playing field. If she bitches about she is often treated as if she wanted special treatment.
@@billie-jobenway8658 Personnality was the issue . Age looks and youth had nothing to do with it . ANY person taking on the role is compared regardless and if one of the issues being they dont have 3 decades of experience then theres a legitimtate reason to critique . I`m pozz the only person giving a toss about her being female is yourself . Seek sexist issues and you will find them regardless if they are there or not . Bitching about a lack of level playing field means those in charge do not wear some moaning blinkered moron within there field of expertise . A circle of stupidity created by women against women on the idea its for women . Well done .
@@godzillas6301 She was there to be a presenter, just like Tony. She has more education on the subject than Tony. Period. Tony started out with an acting career. That and he was friends with a few of them. What part of an acting career and being friends with archaeologists makes you more suited to the job? As for personality being the issue, sure, she didn't fit in smoothly from the start among a crew that had been together for 18 seasons. Still, there have been plenty of male experts on the show that were hard to get used to or who were awkward interacting with others, but they didn't get commented on like she did. People looked past their personality deficits or quirks and often commented on their knowledge if they commented on them at all. I love Stewart but he was awkward for a while. Should we have talked about him like this or dismissed his knowledge? As for your 3 decades of experience comment, I have been talking about the way she is compared to Tony, not the other experts with experience at their chosen profession. You're straw manning this argument. Of course the opinions of the experts on the show mean more than hers on matters of archaeology. To say otherwise would be ridiculous as she has education but lacks experience. As for your comment about sexism, it's easy to deny sexism affects females in the workplace when you are not directly affected by it. I cannot be so blissfully unaware, nor can millions of other women. We don't need someone like you to verify it's existence for us before we see it as real. Facts are facts. Further, a level playing field does not mean a person with less education or experience gets to be taken as seriously as one with more. It simply means equal education and experience should result in equal status, no more no less.
@@billie-jobenway8658 If she were just a presenter then they would have taken on a presenter and not someone with a career as an arco .... so she was ment to bring more to the fold .... She certainly wasnt chosen from the many uni`s each and every personnailty on TT teach at . The production company chose her and it was a poor choice . Wooden . Clunkey . Missfitting. Everyone USED to be considered for there looks . Wild hair , suspect facial hair , pisstaken for being old fat or even down to what they wear be it a daft hat , pigtail or a stripey jumper !!!!! But then critque is always directed at women alone isnt it so it doesnt count if it is toward a male ...... But then what would you know ? in the same breath YOU can`t represent millions of womens experience and can only speak of you`re own . You do not have the life experience no more than i do . I have never once come across a single female held back , treated differently , repressed or victimised , not 1 , not 1 in 50 years on this planet and not 1 single historic reference that can demonstrate the same ........ This glass ceiling , you assume is simply an assumption . Yes there are pricks in this world who will keep the status quo as they like it and yes the exact same distasteful virtues are shown from women when empowered given its a biological contruct within us all that we gravitate toward the same . But it is not rife , normal or easy to find even single cases of the rampent sexism you assume ..... only in the mindset of those with motive toward seeking blame regardless of blame being there . In a world where women are valued without a doubt its a struggle to find a single case but easy to find millions of references to sexist behavious , guess why ?.
It doesn't really matter whether MaryAnne is smart or not, she gets stupid lines scripted for her. It's plain they intended her to be an eye-candy bimbo in a tight T-shirt, no matter what her qualifications were.
Thanks for the upload Reijer, but god, if I could watch a version without Mary whatever in it that would be so much better, she basically destroyed the show with her I’m guessing scripted stupid questions and that asinine smile 🤡 it’s so painful when she’s on 🤦🏻♂️
He would have told them where to shove that jar of Vaseline. The BBC was lucky to get a man of his expertise to participate in time team, looking like a wild man or not.
I love a man with wild hair. Dr. Mick's was phenomenal as well. I love the fact that they just don't care; they're absolutely comfortable and secure with themselves and have other concerns in life.
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Raksha is a gift.
Makes a mean curry, too 😄
racksha bless her, is a ray of sunshine, yep she does get the shit end on digs, but she comes up smiling and jolly
l loved hearing her squealing with terrified laughter as she crossed on that wire to the island in the first episode this season. She is a ray of light !
Stewart has been replace by a map on a string - superb insights . . .
First: Thank you so much Reijer Zaaijer for sharing Time Team with those of us who can only watch it in this format. I have watched the entire series once already and am now on my second "watch-through". Second: The hostility for Mary Ann I believe has to do more with change and the introduction of new caste members with die-hard fans of the show more than anything to do with her personality or qualifications. I was of the belief that Tony was the Host, or "television presenter" as he sometimes referred to himself, of the show throughout, and never thought of anyone else as a "Co-Host", as it was not needed. Mick I loved in all his gruffness and slightly crazy professor image, no matter what. In any event, I only wished the series could have found a way to continue. I have watched the American version of Time Team, and well, it was a good try, but lacked something, (most likely it just lacked; Romans, Anglo-Saxons, unexpected roundhouse finds,Tony, Phil, Stuart, John... and so on, lol).
It doesn't help Mary Ann when the producers stick her in a sports car with a multi-millionaire, and have them come roaring up with boobs bouncing and her mega-watt smile firmly fixed on the gentleman. None of her credentials mean crap when she asks him for another "spin" before getting down to archaeology business. (
Time Team S19-E07 The Only Earl Is Essex).
They totally turned her into a coy tart. After seasons of down-to-earth women like Brigid, Raksha, Helen and the little diggers, it's really hard to watch now.
Sir Tony cleans up nice. Looking spiffy in that suit, and especially that tie in the opening scene
No one commenting on Tony's, "Oh wow, my nuts!" Funniest thing I have heard on TT.
I heard, but didn't know if it would be protocol to mention it.
I can imagine everyone getting together to go to the race course all dolled up..and Phil showing up after maybe, probably not, cleaning his boots and when everyone laughed he prob just said "Wot!" lol
Tony Robinson in a suit and tie... Miracles still do happen!!!!!!!!!
The real travesty was that they got rid of Helen Geake. What were they thinking? Nothing wrong with the new people but they just don't really fit. And why would they ever lessen the role of Stewart, the genius-in-residence?
I don't know what you were watching but Helen is in this episode.
They moved production to Wales and lost a lot of the crew because they didn't want to move. Stewart and Helen are still in some episodes but not all, apparently for the same reason. I miss their personalities and deep expertise.
@@elisabeth6108she had three children so probably maternity leave.
Thanks so much for posting
Old Phil doesn't get dressed up with the rest of the race day crowd and gets the last one in on being born a horse lover (as his name implies).
Even without knowing anything about the changes, I feel there was a lot of general filler and less about the actual dig and findings.
Yes, this episode has a lot of uninteresting things. Who told the producers that we wanted to see less digging and more empty entertainment?
My horse is descended from Eclipse, so I found this very informative and interesting despite the filler fluff. That trip to the toy shop had absolutely no purpose in the show but to fill time.
A tiny, unobtrusive advert? If so, miles better than the normal run of ads.
@@corneliawissing7950 indeed. Tho Timeteam was a tv show, now uploaded on various channels here. Actually, at that rate, one could say that the whole show is a subtle advertisement.😂
@@meemurthelemur4811 Probably. What they are advertising to me is the history of Britain, because they know so much. I'm even beginning to have a sort of timeline in my head, and I'm a 78 year old woman and not from the UK.
good old phil he turned up in his dutch jumper and his battered hat to watch the G G s true to form and hes not in the least intimidated, by all those well dressed people
I'm not sure, but this may be the first time Dr. Jackie McKinley was made Site Director. I wish they had continued the trend to promote team members to Directors. Raksha Dave would have been a great Site Director.
The office types who ruined this show starting "lightening up" the show 3-4 years before this season. However, all at once they dumped the production crew, replaced a lot of the diggers, brought in two new (one inexperienced) presenters, cut corners on experts, and introduced more non-archaeology. That plus changing the air dates around resulted in the death of the show. Mary-Ann Ochota was sort of a lightning rod for complaints. Although she had the education, she didn't have any field experience to speak of, unlike the other young women from earlier (Carenza Lewis and Helen Geake). The producers did both her and Mick Aston a disservice, and the viewers are the ones who have suffered the loss of a formerly great series.
And OMG her teeth are FREAKIN HUGE!!! If they found her skeleton, they'd say "well, it definitely has female brow ridges, but GIGANTIC male teeth, so we have no idea what sex it is...🤷♂️"
😂🤣😂🤣
As soon as they brought her in, Time Team quality started going downhill, then suddenly just like you said, they just absolutely killed it. Such a shame, because it was a phenomenal informative show - had me digging in my own back yard...
In the US... 😂🤣
Having watched the entire series from the beginning of the uploads, for which Reijer Zaaijer must be sincerely thanked, I have enjoyed the constant comradery, joking, and friendly rivalry (amongst other things) that the members of Time Team, and their hosts/hostesses have displayed. That all changed with the introduction of the two new members, especially the female, whose qualifications I do not know, and the same level of teamwork appears to have become seriously diminished, although it still appears to be retained between themselves. There are odd moments when they attempt to include the new people but with a distinct lack of enthusiasm most of the time. Phil is usually the easiest going member but even he can be seen glancing sideways at her when she makes obtuse statements and observations.
She's got a masters in archaeology apparently. She was obviously bought in to play the 'enthusiastic amateur' role that Tony played for all of those years. It doesn't work though as she's of a totally different social group to the rest of the team. The other guy seems to be a straight swap for Stewart, which again ruins the whole team ethos as Stewart and John's insights and squabbles were what made the programme so watchable.
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"The female"...really? You talking horses or people, here?
Also, why not assume, that since she's on the show, she's qualified?
Alex is a highly skilled archaeologist with historical programs on the BBC under his belt.
Everybody's all togged up for the races... and then there's Phil.
No one else caught Paul's "Spinal Tap" 18" Stonehenge shirt?
I doubt I would've caught it if you hadn't mentioned it. Now I must have one.
What is the point of the Ochota? Social anthropology? Rather, decoration? And it sounds like someone else is writing the new "friendly Tony's" lines. No wonder Mick bailed. And without Mick choosing digs, we get this.
*Mary-Ann* is highly qualified in archæology but the producers changed how she was used. Originally she was to help take the load off *Tony.* She and *Mick* left at the same time.
A person can be extremely qualified, but if that (and personality) doesn’t translate to the medium ... especially if they don’t really *appear* to do much .... they’re not going to go over well.
Sir Tony Robinson: has been knighted.
Also Tony: Ow my nuts! 😆
Best things about this episode are the horses, & Tony moaning, "Oh, wow! Me NUTS!"
"I was born to be a horse lover weren't I." Philip
I think I'm right in saying that the name Philip does in fact mean 'a lover of horses'...
im sorry but i just have to say it, i was brought up in the country and have seen horses close up, and every time mary ann smiles, those teeth remind me of horses
I have watched the last few episodes and the changes are not bad. I think with two many presenters takes up to much time and cuts the dig time down. Ah ha Helen is back.
...Phil's legs though 😍
Phil is farmer Maurice Moleturd's younger brother.
All well and good for the delightful Mary-Ann to laugh at Tony on 'horse'back - it would be very nice to see HER mounted up!
Only good for frogs now ... I think Phil is wonderful.
Raksha always gets the toughest digs lol
Thumbs up for Time Team, even if the series isn´t what it was it still rocks. Sad that the young archaeologists don´t have the charisma this series needs :/, what about hiring some more charismatic people we all could relate to :)
I have seen this episode at least 3 times and every time, I start wanting to read (or rather reread) Dick Frances' mystery novels. Now, where did I put those books?
Can't say this was a very good episode as it didn't really answer their initial question and so resorted to showing lots of filler.
They start with a map, and saying it was a big stable near a race track, but they need evidence that it housed race horses, not just regular horses.
And after 3 days of digging they concluded that it was a big stable near a race track THEREFORE probably housed race horses.
The only real unknown they covered is that the wall that showed up on the geophysics was a similar phase of construction as the rest, rather than being an earlier phase, but they just told you that in 30s at the end. You didn't get to see them work it out as in older time teams.
There was very little mystery and discovery, which the older series were good on, and it just feels more scripted and less spontaneous.
The entire series is available on DVD
I must agree, and she accepts the results if what she is digging for isn’t there.
Why do they not always have tents on hand? They can afford heavy digging machinery and helicopter rides, but not several tents?
This is, I believe, the first episode without Mick. For anyone keeping track, I mean.
His health from age was declining, rest that brilliant man's soul.
@@MrHeroicDemon also he was pissed off
No, it’s not ; in fact, there were a number of later episodes without him, either because he really wasn’t keen on Roman sites (he’s a medievalist), or because he was in poor health.
@@RKHageman Youre right, but I meant as in after he'd passed away.
AnnBearForFreedom Oh, I see... my bad
My brother lived in Newmarket.
1st dig 52.243583, 0.407516
2nd dig 52.243909, 0.406790
That Mary Ann 😍. And smart to boot!
smart as a rock
I miss Stewart.
I've seen so many people complaining about Mary-Ann and Alex. Why? What exactly did either of them say or do? Mary-Ann is educated in the subjects of archaeology and anthropology, she has the credentials to present the info, sure she is awkward at times, but think back to the start of time team and how often was Tony or any of the others kinda awkward in some situations, people need to remember the show was running for about 18 years before they brought in Mary-Ann, you cannot expect her to just jump right in and have no awkwardness with people that have been working together for years and years. Yes, Alex was brought in to replace Stewart, however think how long the show had already been running, Stewart wasn't really young back then either, he was getting up there in years and probably wanting to retire or semi-retire so they needed someone to take his place. Do you people have any actual problems or issues with Mary-Ann and Alex or is it just that you don't like change and want everything to stay the same and if it doesn't stay the same then we should not have it at all?
The first episode with Alex, he pointed out field boundaries that were clearly on the surface, it didn't look like he did any kind of serious map reading or field walking. And Mary shows no intelligence, scripted Tony questions. If it's the producers fault that they look useless, fair enough.
For it being hot...they sure do wear coats a lot...
daam hoped that they made an excavation in brooklands race track
Or Doncaster!
How tall is Mary Ann?
5' 11"
I thought Jackie was the bone expert?
Yes and like most women good at multi-tasking.
The comments blaming the two new additions to the time team lineup for the demise of the show are stupid. The decision to add them was the producers, save your ire for them. Mary Ann has degrees in both archeology an anthropology. Alex is a renowned archaeologist with several BBC history programs under his belt. Put the blame where the blame is due, not on these two.
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Well, I'm glad to learn it was the producers who wouldn't let them do their jobs instead of incompetence. You'd think they would have raised a stink at being made to look like this.
@@karmicpopcorn6440 Do we know for sure that they didn't?
Mary Ann left the second her contract expired and was very upset with how she was used. (Remember, lot of her final portrayal was probably the result of editing and didn't reflect what was actually filmed.) Both she and Alex have had successful careers since which also suggests it was the fault of the producers and editing, not their expertise in the field.
Watching this episode I can understand why Mick had problems with the show at this time. All the horse racing faffing about with Mary Ann was just unneeded fluff.
Throws me off hearing asphalt pronounced with an added h… ash-phalt? Where’d it come from?
Marry Ann has horse teeth herself. Them things are massive. Quite an unfortunate episode for her to showcase her teeth as she does in every episode.
At least they're all there and they're straight, which is more than you can say for most British people.
@@scarletfluerr As are mine, but that's irrelevant. GP's from the NHS are really easy to find, but try finding a decent dentist.
@@scarletfluerr you twit, the vast majority of the human population has crooked teeth. Do yourself a favor, and stick to Fortnite streams. Leave the thinky thinky to those with more substantial wrinkled grey matter.
Ignorant comments...bet they're all from really "handsome" men! 🙄
Poor John.
17:15 LOL
Don't like Mary Ann!
Johnnybob Kadiddlehopper Tough, don't watch.
@@jenniferholden9397 her inclusion led to the shows cancelation, so nobody is watching anymore. Furthermore, who the hell are you to tell anyone what to do, or even to judge their opinion? Get back under the bridge, you troll.
One wasted episode.. if every record and every relic of every horse race ever run vanished tomorrow, the world would be no worse off.
poor Raksha
Raksha, Brigid, Carenza - these were the smart, hard working, relevant and beautiful ladies of Time Team. Everyone knows Mick was often a grumpy old fart, but in this case, he was right. Mary Ann's fake-o smile and her degree in Bimbology ruined the final season of this wonderful show.
And down the blouse boob shots declined.
Eh, Carenza avoided work like the plague and liked to argue with Guy even though he was always proven right. 😂 But she was an intelligent lady.
very true
Why oh why did time team use a bimbo changed the whole concept of the programme.
The woman was studied archaeology and anthropology, she's not a bimbo. Or are you referring to yourself?
@@scarletfluerr she's yet to do or say something of real substance.. so, I'm no fan either. this show didn't need someone who mostly just stands around and tries to look pretty.
@@MegaSmk they made her play the idiot the same way Tony has for 19 years, but sexism and ageism makes a huge difference for how the person who asks those questions is seen.
@@morrigan191 tony isn't an "anthropologist specialising in archaeology and social history", as she claims to be. I have been watching her for eight or nine episodes now (and I'm not quick with critique), and I wish she would start proving that her diplomas are worth the paper they're written on.
Wait wait, did I hear him right, 7:42 *flying ants?* :O
Flying ants are real and very annoying. Try a Google search, you might be surprised.
For me, Mary-Ann Ochota provides a refreshing complement to the great Tony Robinson. A great addition to the cast.
sad, not very informed
Coincidentally, 1.9 metres (why always bloody metric?) or just over six feet four, was Charles II's height.
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Just
Oh Tony, it`s Asphalt NOT ashfelt!!
Stewart>Alex
all the cheezy remarks...so sad.
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Never realized Mary Ann was an Amazon before!
5' 11"
The hate for Mary-Ann is absolutely ludicrous. She's got a Master's degree in Anthropology and Archeology from Cambridge University. Her credentials match or exceed most of the cast members of Time Team, going back to the origins of the show. She's got an excellent education in the appropriate field of study for a program based on archeology, and they brought her in to be a CO-HOST. That's the real insult. Mick was a remarkable personality and a good historian, but he acted like an asshole about Mary-Ann, and pitched a temper tantrum and left even after the BBC gave in to his wishes and decided not to renew her contract. She was treated like shit, and was basically forced out of a role that she was good at.
The show lasted for 20 years, and was in a noticeable decline for the last 4-5 of those. Mick had a personality clash with her, pure and simple. His legacy is solid, but his behavior towards the cast of Time Team in its last years is a disgrace. Tony didn't understand it either, based on several interviews he gave before Mick's death.
+The Choll
Mick did not quit solely because of Mary-Ann. There was a lot more to it than just a new co-host. Starting with their 200th episode, Channel 4 decided to move their production base from London to Cardiff, causing the original production team that was with them for 18 years to be disbanded. C4 had been messing with the format for a while. Starting at about series 16 they started to focus less on the archaeology and more on what Mick called faffing about, but there was still quite a lot of archaeological information in the show. In this series, they changed the formatting radically. Then C4 changed up the viewing times and of course the show lost numbers. The addition of 2 new cast members at the expense of Helen and Stewart, who are much more informative and knowledgeable, is what broke Mick's back. Not Mary-Ann herself. It was reported scandalously in the Daily Mail as being all down to her, but that's not the truth of the matter. Mick was well aware of the network doing all this because they wanted to give the show the axe. TT was just about C4's most expensive show to produce and the trend was going towards stupid reality TV with high viewership. C4 wanted to add cheaper to produce shows to their schedule, but until TT lost viewing numbers, there wasn't a good enough reason to cancel it.
+Fedra Haldane
Too bad these things happen , this show is one of my favourites, and very good quality. I learned so much about Britain and archeology; but , maybe like Toni said it will return in a few years ....
you never want to be the FNG....the person who replaces the favorite member of the band/show/sports team. no matter what you do...how good you are...how hard you try you will almost NEVER win. People didn't really give mary ann a chance. poor gal. I would love to hear what her era/subject is her fave and talk about things. I bet she would surprise us. as a yank from the Midwest I love these shows. so damned interesting.
It's obvious people didn't give Mary Anne a chance. And although I have no idea why Mick left other than what I have read here, it sure seems way out of character for him to throw a tantrum over something so petty.
Mick must have been livid at being made to ask Alex stupid questions, like in the last episode. "Oh, look, aren't there some more stones here? Could that be another wall?" Actually, Alex annoys me more than MaryAnne.
Had to stop watching again, that Woman makes me cringe, totally pointless her being there
The fact that you're disrespectful enough to refer to her as "that woman" instead of her name means you're not very intelligent and most of the show would be lost on you anyway.
@@scarletfluerr you do realize that her inclusion was what led to the death of the show, right? Despite her education, she has no practical field experience, and was brought on solely for aesthetics. That decision led to the departure of Mick, Stewart, Helen, and others. The fact that you don't know that tells me that most of reality is lost on you.
@@SkunkApe407 Mick, Stewart and Helen are still in this series but not in every episode. This show was already dying before Mary Ann arrived and she left it at the same time as Mick. C4 changed lots of things to try and balance the budget and restore viewing figures but with limited success. But they still carried on making TT specials so we still had plenty to watch and be informed by.
@@richardphillips6281 Mick was quite clear about his reasons for leaving. The "dumbing down" of the show was his biggest gripe. Maryann was hired right before he said that. There are dozens of articles on the internet that state that very fact.
@@SkunkApe407 Yes you are right about what Mick said but your comment was that Mary Anns' inclusion was what killed the show when that is not the case.
@The Choll > well she is young, a woman and she is pretty. Oh and did I mention.... shes a woman. All traits that will work against her. A young woman that dont look like a dustbin on legs cant be clever also ... right ?
Unfortunately, it appears a lot of people assumed that. I get so tired of reading comments based on her looks and assumptions that she is stupid. It was never questioned with Tony. I have read the comments on every one of these videos more than once and never saw one person bring it up. But with a woman it's a common response. It seems like it's the same old problem professional women face in so many positions. The men are assumed to be smarter and better educated, or not even questioned about it at all, but a woman is questioned and has to prove herself to even be on a level playing field. If she bitches about she is often treated as if she wanted special treatment.
@@billie-jobenway8658 Personnality was the issue . Age looks and youth had nothing to do with it . ANY person taking on the role is compared regardless and if one of the issues being they dont have 3 decades of experience then theres a legitimtate reason to critique . I`m pozz the only person giving a toss about her being female is yourself . Seek sexist issues and you will find them regardless if they are there or not . Bitching about a lack of level playing field means those in charge do not wear some moaning blinkered moron within there field of expertise . A circle of stupidity created by women against women on the idea its for women . Well done .
@@godzillas6301 She was there to be a presenter, just like Tony. She has more education on the subject than Tony. Period. Tony started out with an acting career. That and he was friends with a few of them. What part of an acting career and being friends with archaeologists makes you more suited to the job? As for personality being the issue, sure, she didn't fit in smoothly from the start among a crew that had been together for 18 seasons.
Still, there have been plenty of male experts on the show that were hard to get used to or who were awkward interacting with others, but they didn't get commented on like she did. People looked past their personality deficits or quirks and often commented on their knowledge if they commented on them at all. I love Stewart but he was awkward for a while. Should we have talked about him like this or dismissed his knowledge?
As for your 3 decades of experience comment, I have been talking about the way she is compared to Tony, not the other experts with experience at their chosen profession. You're straw manning this argument. Of course the opinions of the experts on the show mean more than hers on matters of archaeology. To say otherwise would be ridiculous as she has education but lacks experience. As for your comment about sexism, it's easy to deny sexism affects females in the workplace when you are not directly affected by it. I cannot be so blissfully unaware, nor can millions of other women. We don't need someone like you to verify it's existence for us before we see it as real. Facts are facts. Further, a level playing field does not mean a person with less education or experience gets to be taken as seriously as one with more. It simply means equal education and experience should result in equal status, no more no less.
@@billie-jobenway8658 If she were just a presenter then they would have taken on a presenter and not someone with a career as an arco .... so she was ment to bring more to the fold .... She certainly wasnt chosen from the many uni`s each and every personnailty on TT teach at . The production company chose her and it was a poor choice . Wooden . Clunkey . Missfitting.
Everyone USED to be considered for there looks . Wild hair , suspect facial hair , pisstaken for being old fat or even down to what they wear be it a daft hat , pigtail or a stripey jumper !!!!! But then critque is always directed at women alone isnt it so it doesnt count if it is toward a male ......
But then what would you know ? in the same breath YOU can`t represent millions of womens experience and can only speak of you`re own . You do not have the life experience no more than i do . I have never once come across a single female held back , treated differently , repressed or victimised , not 1 , not 1 in 50 years on this planet and not 1 single historic reference that can demonstrate the same ........
This glass ceiling , you assume is simply an assumption . Yes there are pricks in this world who will keep the status quo as they like it and yes the exact same distasteful virtues are shown from women when empowered given its a biological contruct within us all that we gravitate toward the same . But it is not rife , normal or easy to find even single cases of the rampent sexism you assume ..... only in the mindset of those with motive toward seeking blame regardless of blame being there . In a world where women are valued without a doubt its a struggle to find a single case but easy to find millions of references to sexist behavious , guess why ?.
It doesn't really matter whether MaryAnne is smart or not, she gets stupid lines scripted for her. It's plain they intended her to be an eye-candy bimbo in a tight T-shirt, no matter what her qualifications were.
Thanks for the upload Reijer, but god, if I could watch a version without Mary whatever in it that would be so much better, she basically destroyed the show with her I’m guessing scripted stupid questions and that asinine smile 🤡 it’s so painful when she’s on 🤦🏻♂️
After 19 seasons, you would think they could have forced Phil to cut his hair short and slick it down with petroleum jelly or something....
He would have told them where to shove that jar of Vaseline. The BBC was lucky to get a man of his expertise to participate in time team, looking like a wild man or not.
I love a man with wild hair. Dr. Mick's was phenomenal as well. I love the fact that they just don't care; they're absolutely comfortable and secure with themselves and have other concerns in life.
Petroleum jelly on caucausin hair isn't a thing either.