Tiki's refine is very good. DC opens up her A & Seal so much. She can double Scowl & double/triple jump with Creation Pulse. She may not have gotten a billion effects, but what she got was worth the wait.
@@stygiandragon3865I was about to argue but you're actually correct. She does beat e!ike if he doesn't run creation pulse or have rally spectrum support. Cool!
Been trying Tiki at ton post refine and she's insane. She's surviving a ton of stuff now and no longer requiring DC as her S skill is a huge gamechanger, making her more flexible than before.
Tbh, is it just me, who just surrenders when he sees B!Selpih. ? Like😭 with Mystic boost 4, he was already unkillable , now he has extra healing. Im so screwed, i got no fatal smoke sooo...
2nd place male CYL unit always got the most annoying kits on the opposite team. I'm seeing CYL Felix popping up so often and it's a pain to deal with him.
Back in June, i had the same question, and built a team and setup that could get 13 bonuses within player control. Nergal and Tina can get more, but that relies on foe's setup. Brave Bernie can also inflict plenty of penalties on chrom, but again that relies on foe's setup. Since then, the bonus ceiling may have increased. Bride Catria, Desert Igrene, Young F!Robin, and Chrom (of course) Bonuses: Resonance Blades Desperation PP followup Triangle attack Formation (orders) Treachery Extra Movement Unhindered Terrain Rally Spectrum Dual Strike Canto 1 Null Followup Dodge What amazing is that the 2 extra bonuses that Chrom gets are not in the list for my team, so i can now get him to 15 bonuses (and 1 penalty: Isolation) for 16x2=32 boost to all stats, plus whatever other skills proc. The strategy is to give as many unique bonuses to chrom and a single other unit, the chrom copies the bonuses from that other unit.
@@nami4069 havent done any testing since june. Catria provides 3 statuses (5 actually but Igrene provides 2 of them). Any replacement must be from binding blade or blazing blade, or provide their support to infantry, and provide at least 3 statuses not covered by someone else. Igrene is the one that Chrom is copying from. Desert Juno grants Null Panic, Bonus Doubler, and Formation to herself. If Igrene uses her Harmo skill, Young Robin her duo skill then repos Juno, then Chrom copies Juno then goes into a battle (to proc Spd Smoke 4s Dodge) youll get 13 bonuses
I feel like tiki got the best refine out of all and I feel like it’s a reference to Nagi but I do agree I wish they added on more effect into her weapon to make her broken
@@myselfalex15 She really just needed the Frozen effect or scowl on every hit to help her NFU weakness, it's rough trying to use her now especially because she cant use LF4 with Dragon's Roar. Would've rather taken that over DC
the ladies really took the short end of the stick here, like Chrom´s refine seem so tame, but him being so good kinds of make seem his refine is strong, tbh Tiki and Byleth had so much potential for strong and creative refines, but they feel underwhelming, I really hope IS release an absurdly amount of miracle counters for that Seliph he just seem unfair
Tiki's refine is very good. DC opens up her A & Seal so much. She can double Scowl & double/triple jump with Creation Pulse. She may not have gotten a billion effects, but what she got was worth the wait.
And you'd be surprised to see her single handedly handle bosses even E!Ike has trouble with. And the fact she can handle said E!Ike too
@@stygiandragon3865I was about to argue but you're actually correct. She does beat e!ike if he doesn't run creation pulse or have rally spectrum support. Cool!
IS to CYL refines: You get DR nullification! And You get DR nullification! And You get DR nullification!
Been trying Tiki at ton post refine and she's insane. She's surviving a ton of stuff now and no longer requiring DC as her S skill is a huge gamechanger, making her more flexible than before.
And not to mention how she somehow manages to turn most of the dumbest offensive unit into healing fodders
I know some people had hopes of tiki getting a huge glow up but it was adult tiki so I'm not surprised how her refine went
And *you* get DR piercing! And *you* get DR piercing! And *you* get DR piercing! And *you* get DR piercing!
Because of the fact that Emblem Sigurd is currently available, Chrom is kinda the perfect unit to engage him to.
Tiki getting DC frees up her A and S slot. Not to mention getting flat DR is pretty good too. Seliph refine is just stacked.
Yeah but Fortification exist.
bseliph's A slot examples use the fort def/res icon instead of atk/spd excel
Mi without materials to refine my B!Tiki: Excellent
Regarding B!Tiki, I wish her weapon got ANY upgrade to any of the effects, like a better scowl or something, but true DR and DC is pretty good.
I wished Tiki got double Scowl like how Fallen Veyle does. They didn't even give her Phantom Res to help triggering Scowl...
She has access to High Dragon Wall and Even Res Wave D to remedy this, thankfully.
does anyone know what gamemode refine stones come from? there was a quest that gave me 10 and i cannot figure out how to get any more lmao.
Tiki seems interesting
Tbh, is it just me, who just surrenders when he sees B!Selpih. ? Like😭 with Mystic boost 4, he was already unkillable , now he has extra healing. Im so screwed, i got no fatal smoke sooo...
2nd place male CYL unit always got the most annoying kits on the opposite team. I'm seeing CYL Felix popping up so often and it's a pain to deal with him.
At least tiki can use laguz for 2 20% true DR
Might as well spit on her if you want to say her B skill is useless like that
So which unit can get the most statuses to work with chrom?
Back in June, i had the same question, and built a team and setup that could get 13 bonuses within player control. Nergal and Tina can get more, but that relies on foe's setup. Brave Bernie can also inflict plenty of penalties on chrom, but again that relies on foe's setup. Since then, the bonus ceiling may have increased.
Bride Catria, Desert Igrene, Young F!Robin, and Chrom (of course)
Bonuses:
Resonance Blades
Desperation
PP followup
Triangle attack
Formation (orders)
Treachery
Extra Movement
Unhindered Terrain
Rally Spectrum
Dual Strike
Canto 1
Null Followup
Dodge
What amazing is that the 2 extra bonuses that Chrom gets are not in the list for my team, so i can now get him to 15 bonuses (and 1 penalty: Isolation) for 16x2=32 boost to all stats, plus whatever other skills proc.
The strategy is to give as many unique bonuses to chrom and a single other unit, the chrom copies the bonuses from that other unit.
@@traskth Got a replacement for Bridal Catria? I don't have her.
@@nami4069 havent done any testing since june. Catria provides 3 statuses (5 actually but Igrene provides 2 of them). Any replacement must be from binding blade or blazing blade, or provide their support to infantry, and provide at least 3 statuses not covered by someone else.
Igrene is the one that Chrom is copying from.
Desert Juno grants Null Panic, Bonus Doubler, and Formation to herself. If Igrene uses her Harmo skill, Young Robin her duo skill then repos Juno, then Chrom copies Juno then goes into a battle (to proc Spd Smoke 4s Dodge) youll get 13 bonuses
@@traskth Hmm I see, thanks.
@@nami4069 unfortunatly, the units that grant to most bonuses tend to be limitied units, duos and harmos usually being the best.
So much love went into seliphs....then I look at tiki and byleth, a bit disappointed
I feel like tiki got the best refine out of all and I feel like it’s a reference to Nagi but I do agree I wish they added on more effect into her weapon to make her broken
@@myselfalex15 I think the new upcoming Felicia was made with B!Tiki refine in mind. Think about it, they make a great combo ^^
@@myselfalex15 She really just needed the Frozen effect or scowl on every hit to help her NFU weakness, it's rough trying to use her now especially because she cant use LF4 with Dragon's Roar. Would've rather taken that over DC
the ladies really took the short end of the stick here, like Chrom´s refine seem so tame, but him being so good kinds of make seem his refine is strong, tbh Tiki and Byleth had so much potential for strong and creative refines, but they feel underwhelming, I really hope IS release an absurdly amount of miracle counters for that Seliph he just seem unfair
All pretty underwhelming refines to be honest.