I think this earlier set of paganini etudes is far more difficult than the revised 1851 version. I feel like his teacher Czerny has built a strong fundation for Liszt's formidable techniques. Probably that's also why Czerny's etudes are also critically acclaimed for piano players from learners to masters. Even though Lisztian etudes are indeed eye-catching and flamboyant, but most of the techniques can be traced back to relatively easier Czerny etudes. This is said by my piano teacher actually 😂.
prob bcz he cannot play liszts etudes so hes saying sour grapes czerny is better. czerny was nothing compared to liszt he wouldn't have even been a great pianist by todays standards but surely liszt would be
@@dustovshio ????? it is saying that Czerny established a baseline which allows you to attain the Lizstian flair. It is clear op's teacher has a deep respect for both Lizst and Czerny.
@@Skullemojiiii no liszt's finger exercises and etudes allow you to attain the "lisztian flair" not czerny. Liszt was the greatest pianist to ever live and czerny is barely a footnote in music history.
Ooooh, so the first version of Etude n°3 also featured the theme from the last movement of Paganini's 1st concerto, together with the one from the last movement of his 2nd concerto ("La Campanella")! Very interesting. It's surprising that at some point Liszt decided these compositions were far too hard and revised them, removing the 1st concerto part from this etude.
They are on IMSLP! imslp.org/wiki/%C3%89tudes_d'ex%C3%A9cution_transcendante_d'apr%C3%A8s_Paganini%2C_S.140_(Liszt%2C_Franz) It helps to look for the "opus" number (S.140 in this case).
Petrov has the best recording for No.5! Simply my favorite among all the others whom I've listened to 18:40 - Petrov's tenths are much better than Filipec's and Tomellini's recordings here
1st movement is common time 2nd movement is common time 3rd movement is 6/8 4th movement is 2/4 5th movement is 2/4 5th movement ALSO has a time signature. 2/4!!! Every music has to have some kind of signature if you didnt know... This must be the dumbest TH-cam comment I've ever seen. If you dont know how to spot a time signature it's said after the key signature AND sometimes these pieces change time signature in the middle of the piece but I dont have time for naming them.
Lol liszt had to nerf this set so hard.. However, im kind of surprised that very little of, if not none of, the "technical masters" of piano have made their recordings of this 1838 set. So far, the only recordings of this set I can find is of this one of Petrov's. Why though? Are Liszt's first editon etudes THAT hard?(not implying that I can do my own recordings) Or is it that most "technical masters" of piano can't find any musical value off of this set?
While I can’t give you a solid answer to your question, I will let you know that Goran Filipec, Elisa Tomellini, and Wojciech Waleczek have all made complete recordings of the S.140 set; I actually have another vid using Filipec’s recordings, although I personally find Tomellini’s to be the most intriguing. It’s not a lot, but it’s more than just Petrov at least.
The S.140 set is an earlier version of the Paganini etudes, with many different ideas. Liszt published the S.140 set in 1838 and the S.141 set (the one that most people know) in 1851.
@@applejuices i can reach tenths too ,, but its a bit painfull ,, i can manage to play tenths slowly but its physically impossible to play those tenths that fast
The most important part of his piano work are the transcriptions. More than Hungarian rhapsodies or studies The Reminiscences, symphonies, caprices and even transcriptions of his own pieces, such as Mazeppa, which is originally a symphonic poem and the Libestraum, which is for voice and piano
Beautiful.. Petrov's plays is really deep and emotional.
Hi, I love your TH-cam channel!
Yes he managed to make something beautiful out of these stupendously hard pieces
Indeed, he really did manage to pull these off without making it sound too bulky, especially the 4th one.
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My respect to TheExarion for putting all of them into one video
25:24, that chromatic run at the end is so smooth and even, I'm jealous >:(
25:24 is the ratio of a just chromatic semitone.
I think this earlier set of paganini etudes is far more difficult than the revised 1851 version. I feel like his teacher Czerny has built a strong fundation for Liszt's formidable techniques. Probably that's also why Czerny's etudes are also critically acclaimed for piano players from learners to masters. Even though Lisztian etudes are indeed eye-catching and flamboyant, but most of the techniques can be traced back to relatively easier Czerny etudes. This is said by my piano teacher actually 😂.
prob bcz he cannot play liszts etudes so hes saying sour grapes czerny is better. czerny was nothing compared to liszt he wouldn't have even been a great pianist by todays standards but surely liszt would be
Correct, this set is certainly easier, the revised set only exists because Liszt decided to make them easier.
@@dustovshio ????? it is saying that Czerny established a baseline which allows you to attain the Lizstian flair. It is clear op's teacher has a deep respect for both Lizst and Czerny.
@@Skullemojiiii no liszt's finger exercises and etudes allow you to attain the "lisztian flair" not czerny. Liszt was the greatest pianist to ever live and czerny is barely a footnote in music history.
Careful with the "relatively easier Czerny études" part...have you seen Czerny's Op. 364, Op. 245, or Sonata No. 10? 😂
This is beyond me. This is probably the most impressing recording i have Ever seen un my life.
that 4th etude is just ridiculous
Liszt must've felt extra proud of himself when he managed to shave *so much* off for the final version
it's the 5th lol
@@marcxs3537try the 4th then you will know
We know
People are always hung up on the 4th but I think the 6th in this set is almost as impossible.
I had no idea these other versions of the paganini etudes actually existed
Well, this is the first version from the paganini etude by Liszt actually..
@@radotbaitstefanusmarpaung7564 except no.3 cause La Clochette exists
and 4 as a version called 4a exists, this is 4b@@sillyradiodemon1
Just loved the difference to S 141
Bellissima interpretazione, e ovviamente ottima tecnica!
Ooooh, so the first version of Etude n°3 also featured the theme from the last movement of Paganini's 1st concerto, together with the one from the last movement of his 2nd concerto ("La Campanella")! Very interesting. It's surprising that at some point Liszt decided these compositions were far too hard and revised them, removing the 1st concerto part from this etude.
Thanks, wanted all of them in one video.
Amazing! Thanks for putting all of these Etudés into one video!! :D
Thank you for putting all of them in one
ブラボー🎹💫🙌🎶
These etudes aren’t even on imslp (as fas i could see) they seem to be mostly forgotten which is a shame they are amazing works!
They are on IMSLP! imslp.org/wiki/%C3%89tudes_d'ex%C3%A9cution_transcendante_d'apr%C3%A8s_Paganini%2C_S.140_(Liszt%2C_Franz)
It helps to look for the "opus" number (S.140 in this case).
@@TheExarion Thank you for providing the link!
Listen the first version of La Campanella is a big pleasure!
La Clochette is technically the 1st ver. Of Campanella
@@sillyradiodemon1 It doesn't count hahaha
My full sympathy toward the poor piano. It must have been tough for that old guy.
So great
Petrov has the best recording for No.5!
Simply my favorite among all the others whom I've listened to
18:40 - Petrov's tenths are much better than Filipec's and Tomellini's recordings here
Liszt has been learned a lot with Czerny!
Uuuhhh, the other version 😍
The 4th and 6th etude...
Those 2 octave arpeggios are quite something.
Actually I've noticed they aren't marked as arpeggios...
2:52 favorite part of etude 1
I learnt that etude!
Putting the 5th etude in with modulation
Please tell us about the piano. IT seems to me to have a vintage sound. Very appropriate. Love the playing.
Its an August Forster if i'm not wrong
happy birthday
28:07 damn, this sounds fucking amazing!
27:01
We onlly have 2 hands though...
I love pieces with no time signature lol
@hole62 Which ones have no time signatures? They all seem to have one bro
1st movement is common time
2nd movement is common time
3rd movement is 6/8
4th movement is 2/4
5th movement is 2/4
5th movement ALSO has a time signature. 2/4!!!
Every music has to have some kind of signature if you didnt know... This must be the dumbest TH-cam comment I've ever seen.
If you dont know how to spot a time signature it's said after the key signature AND sometimes these pieces change time signature in the middle of the piece but I dont have time for naming them.
The Etudarion
its sounds so hard that the correct notes feel wrong
Liszt is the best!
thanks
I think ill just stick to the s 141 *beginner* version. Much easier although i cant even play them
Is this Liszt 1838 version? Different with that.. uh... one?
Yes
15:32 Unbelievable.....
Lol liszt had to nerf this set so hard.. However, im kind of surprised that very little of, if not none of, the "technical masters" of piano have made their recordings of this 1838 set. So far, the only recordings of this set I can find is of this one of Petrov's. Why though? Are Liszt's first editon etudes THAT hard?(not implying that I can do my own recordings) Or is it that most "technical masters" of piano can't find any musical value off of this set?
While I can’t give you a solid answer to your question, I will let you know that Goran Filipec, Elisa Tomellini, and Wojciech Waleczek have all made complete recordings of the S.140 set; I actually have another vid using Filipec’s recordings, although I personally find Tomellini’s to be the most intriguing. It’s not a lot, but it’s more than just Petrov at least.
@@TheExarion Also Leslie Howard.
leslie howard recorded the complete liszt works
Why did the La Campanella sound different? Is it another writing? Please enlighten me.
The S.140 set is an earlier version of the Paganini etudes, with many different ideas. Liszt published the S.140 set in 1838 and the S.141 set (the one that most people know) in 1851.
@@TheExarion a simpler, easier version is it?
@@hastensavoir7782 The 1838 (S.140) set is more difficult, generally, than the 1851 (S.141) set.
@@hastensavoir7782 compare the 4th etude and you will see that it isn't an easier vesion
@@hastensavoir7782 This version is much, much harder than the one you're familiar with.
18:00
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25:43 - those tenths are just rediculous , like how
Big hands?
@@applejuices yeah that explains it ,,,, but sadly we are not born Rachmaninoffs :(
@@thenotsogoodpianist4706 Nope, sadly not. I can reach a 10th from c to e but that's about it.
@@applejuices i can reach tenths too ,, but its a bit painfull ,, i can manage to play tenths slowly but its physically impossible to play those tenths that fast
@@thenotsogoodpianist4706 yup same. Only 10th I can actually hit hard and fast are B flat to D flat and D sharp to F sharp.
23:29 - Pagalizstana anyone?
JESUS CHRIST Franz, what have you done?!?!?
The thirds in no 2 has to be with both hands
Andrei Anghel's video of S.140 etudes got taken down i think. i hope yours will be safe
Yes.
@@LeventK slm
@@sikroboskop3121 as
@Mathews196 Indeed
It's still here!
How to trigger musicians 29:23
I dont get it, care to explain?
@@bran7982 I apologize for late reply, On S. 141 there was supposed to be the last note
@@winningsmile5423 oh i see, yeah it sounds quite wierd
Thank you for explaining
27:01 Is that even possible?
yea
I think this new E3 is playable for me than the more popular one :D xDD but others one... nah xD
This is not midi right?
Correct, this is not MIDI!
@@TheExarion how did you make this then
@@thetechnovoid The audio is not mine! The performer playing the pieces in this video is Nikolai Petrov.
It's me or Liszt transposed A LOT of pieces for piano?
The most important part of his piano work are the transcriptions. More than Hungarian rhapsodies or studies
The Reminiscences, symphonies, caprices and even transcriptions of his own pieces, such as Mazeppa, which is originally a symphonic poem and the Libestraum, which is for voice and piano
The S.141 are pretty good, but imo are no match for the S.140. Especially the 3rd one.
And they say Brahms one is harder. Maybe, but wait till they can play these first
Lol etude 6 var 9 like the jumps weren't big enough before
I find it hilarious how Liszt completely stole Schumann’s work as his own ossia in the first etude. Is there some backstory I’m unaware of?
Weird to say “stole” when it could equally be assumed that he got Schumann’s permission to use this as an ossia lol
🤣🤣🤣
Way too many ossias
hey it gives the performer options