Wow, 100k miles of OpenPilot. What a great review. I just found this product today and it's pretty much what I want for my new Rav4. The lane assist is terrifying in it's ping ponging so I never use it. At high speeds it does little more than give me massive anxiety. The adaptive cruise control is really an aggressive breaker, where the Honda Sense stuff is much better at detecting cars further out. I use the cruise all the time though, it's still very good. But a car that can drive me places when I don't really want to.... well we have a winner!
YOU'RE BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. Dude we talked on discord. I bought my 2016 honda civic SPECIFICALLY because of you. I never added comma because I forgot. now that you uploaded I remember!!!! Going to buy this ASAP.
Openpilot on many cars provides cold control from 0(3) mph including speed control, stop and go, but on Honda Fit, Freed, Pilot etc. where the Honda Nidec sits it only takes control at 25 mph and the "Comma Pedal" takes the system to a modern level. You can search for the video “Comma pedal Honda” on TH-cam, it clearly shows... I have Honda Freed (Japan car for Japan market in European country)))
They've made it sound like it won't be there at launch, but should come some time after. I imagine it's all about timing, and they also made it seem like it'd be easily retrofitted onto cars that don't have it. The wiring would already be there, and it'd be more or less removing your old rearview mirror and installing the new one equipped with open pilot.
Ordering C3X with Openpilot separately and receiving it even earlier than Aptera does not seem to be any problem. Is it another matter when you have Aptera LE marked on your calendar? At Comma Con last summer, the company’s founder said that the hardware capacity of Comma 3X would be enough for another 2 years of Openpilot development. If the delivery time of your Aptera LE is not earlier than autumn-winter 2025, then you can buy a C3X with a cable for your current car to enjoy autonomous driving now, and when the Aptera is on its way to your home, simply buy an additional cable compatible with Aptera for $200. You might even get it for free as an early adopter.
@@sunduckjo Any thoughts if I had a delivery date more like first half of 2026? Think it’d be wise to hold on for a next generation of Comma’s hardware?
It likely won't be available in very first units due to the steering column, but quickly after vehicles will support openpilot plug-and-play with comma hardware. More info to come from Aptera on this soon!
@@VirtuallyChris when you say “very first” does this mean like, Accelerators, or first year, or some other timeframe? Thanks for the time to reply, by the way, it’s much appreciated.
I wish my Honda's EPS wasn't rate limited, I'd order this today otherwise. I actually bought the car I have because of the original openpilot project lol.
Toyota's safety sense 3.0 is pretty good. A LOT better then 2.0. I was able to drive on just regular streets with minimal input. Its not as good as Tesla's FSD but if you're doing regular HWY driving then its a game changer.
Not only TSS3.0 is good, but it can adjust car position in lane using BSM while you or car in next lane passing on highway. This is crucial for safety. Comma x3 can't do that.
Well, Does OpenPilot obey stop signs and traffic light intersections automatically (slow down and stop)? Or do you have to take control at any one of these??? Comparing this to my Tesla Auto Pilot which does not obey stop signs or Traffic lights, i have to take over control of Auto Pilot when there are no cars in front of me. Seems like mounting that large interface right in the middle/dead center of the window makes the device really bad for having visual blind spots for the driver at intersections. i notice blind spots with just regular mirrors in my vehicles and sometimes miss seeing cars to the right. Seems Comma/OpenPilot is the same as Auto Pilot in my Tesla. It is just an enhanced Cruise Control which follow the road contours.
Is there any way for me to use comma 3x while my vehicle is not on the list. I wanted it so much. My car is Chery Omoda 5 2023 it's capable of adaptive cruise control and lane keeping assist. Please someone make video about unsupported cars 🥹
hi, i have a honda eHERV HRV with honda sensing, so openpilot bypasses the 45 mph minimum speed for activation? also in start and stop traffic after a few seconds of being stopped you need to hit thee acceleration to resume, do you still need to do this with openpilot? thanks
100K - you got me beat by about 20K. I don't actually know because I forgot to capture the miles I put on with the Comma 2 (I'm at 43K with my Comma 3). Everything you said is true. In fact, we've decided on our next car based on (in part) it's OpenPilot support. My wife thought I was crazy to spend the money on the first one; now she won't drive without it!
Amazing video Chris! Is your Civic torque modded? Mine is 2.5x Also is your gas/brakes still being controlled by Honda sensing? I know OP long is still alpha with civic and experimental.
At Comma Con last summer, the company’s founder said that the hardware capacity of Comma 3X would be enough for another 2 years of Openpilot development. Soft updated regular. I wait when it will be not 0.x, but 1.x)))
I don't think these self-driving systems will work in Europe any time soon. Because of the shape and size of roads and streets that were designed prior to cars.
@@nsglcck I’m not questioning the quality. I’m asking if my insurance will stiff me if / when they discover that something like this were to be installed in my car and I got in a crash.
@@UloPe You can let your insurance know you're installing an aftermarket dashcam that also performs driver monitoring / driver assistance features. I have it listed on my Geico insurance :)
Wow, 100k miles of OpenPilot. What a great review. I just found this product today and it's pretty much what I want for my new Rav4. The lane assist is terrifying in it's ping ponging so I never use it. At high speeds it does little more than give me massive anxiety. The adaptive cruise control is really an aggressive breaker, where the Honda Sense stuff is much better at detecting cars further out. I use the cruise all the time though, it's still very good. But a car that can drive me places when I don't really want to.... well we have a winner!
I'm so glad you found the video! It's a great product, you'll love it. Such an improvement on the stock system ;)
Can this product be used on a 2017 ford explorer limited edition?
I drove 70.000 km with my comma 3. It was the best investment in my car.
NO WAY YOU'RE BACK
YES WAY!
I watched your old open pilot videos forever ago. You were probably the first one that explained things to the viewer.
YOU'RE BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. Dude we talked on discord. I bought my 2016 honda civic SPECIFICALLY because of you. I never added comma because I forgot. now that you uploaded I remember!!!! Going to buy this ASAP.
Comma C3X + "Comma Pedal" for full control
@@sunduckjo Pedal vs no pedal on 2016 civic touring? Is it just stop and go under 25 mph?
Openpilot on many cars provides cold control from 0(3) mph including speed control, stop and go, but on Honda Fit, Freed, Pilot etc. where the Honda Nidec sits it only takes control at 25 mph and the "Comma Pedal" takes the system to a modern level. You can search for the video “Comma pedal Honda” on TH-cam, it clearly shows... I have Honda Freed (Japan car for Japan market in European country)))
That's awesome!! You'll love it :)
The most unbiased review 🤣
True, Honda can't even see the clear sharp lines in full sunlight while Comma can navigate even in the rain without lines.
@@DivyangM he is/was(I don't know if he still is) employed by Comma and didn't even mention it.
@@kendea I was in the past, yes. I've used openpilot for 100,000 miles, so I felt I had a good perspective to offer :)
@@VirtuallyChris you should’ve mentioned it in your video ( basic conflict of interest notification )
Looking forward to using Open Pilot when I get my Aptera. Any idea if it will ship with the Launch Edition, or will we need to retrofit it later?
They've made it sound like it won't be there at launch, but should come some time after. I imagine it's all about timing, and they also made it seem like it'd be easily retrofitted onto cars that don't have it. The wiring would already be there, and it'd be more or less removing your old rearview mirror and installing the new one equipped with open pilot.
Ordering C3X with Openpilot separately and receiving it even earlier than Aptera does not seem to be any problem. Is it another matter when you have Aptera LE marked on your calendar? At Comma Con last summer, the company’s founder said that the hardware capacity of Comma 3X would be enough for another 2 years of Openpilot development. If the delivery time of your Aptera LE is not earlier than autumn-winter 2025, then you can buy a C3X with a cable for your current car to enjoy autonomous driving now, and when the Aptera is on its way to your home, simply buy an additional cable compatible with Aptera for $200. You might even get it for free as an early adopter.
@@sunduckjo Any thoughts if I had a delivery date more like first half of 2026? Think it’d be wise to hold on for a next generation of Comma’s hardware?
It likely won't be available in very first units due to the steering column, but quickly after vehicles will support openpilot plug-and-play with comma hardware. More info to come from Aptera on this soon!
@@VirtuallyChris when you say “very first” does this mean like, Accelerators, or first year, or some other timeframe? Thanks for the time to reply, by the way, it’s much appreciated.
I wish my Honda's EPS wasn't rate limited, I'd order this today otherwise. I actually bought the car I have because of the original openpilot project lol.
How does Open Pilot work with GPS? In other words, does it have navigation, or does it work with navigation?
welcome back from siberia chris
Hahaha thank you!
How does it work with navigation? I.e. putting in a destination into Google maps? Will it just take you there ?
Toyota's safety sense 3.0 is pretty good. A LOT better then 2.0. I was able to drive on just regular streets with minimal input. Its not as good as Tesla's FSD but if you're doing regular HWY driving then its a game changer.
Not only TSS3.0 is good, but it can adjust car position in lane using BSM while you or car in next lane passing on highway. This is crucial for safety. Comma x3 can't do that.
Great video as always, Chris!
Thanks Erik! Glad to be back.
*You've been sorely missed mate*
🤟🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤟🏽
Glad to be back!
Well, Does OpenPilot obey stop signs and traffic light intersections automatically (slow down and stop)? Or do you have to take control at any one of these???
Comparing this to my Tesla Auto Pilot which does not obey stop signs or Traffic lights, i have to take over control of Auto Pilot when there are no cars in front of me.
Seems like mounting that large interface right in the middle/dead center of the window makes the device really bad for having visual blind spots for the driver at intersections. i notice blind spots with just regular mirrors in my vehicles and sometimes miss seeing cars to the right.
Seems Comma/OpenPilot is the same as Auto Pilot in my Tesla. It is just an enhanced Cruise Control which follow the road contours.
Can this be installed on a Honda civic 2022 hatchback? Is there a video somewhere
Is there any way for me to use comma 3x while my vehicle is not on the list. I wanted it so much. My car is Chery Omoda 5 2023 it's capable of adaptive cruise control and lane keeping assist. Please someone make video about unsupported cars 🥹
Would this work with a trailer? I want to get it for long hauling in my tundra with an enclosed trailer.
hi, i have a honda eHERV HRV with honda sensing, so openpilot bypasses the 45 mph minimum speed for activation? also in start and stop traffic after a few seconds of being stopped you need to hit thee acceleration to resume, do you still need to do this with openpilot? thanks
Im having to get a new car thinking about the hyundai ioniq electric but don't think the 2021 is compatible. Can you help me find out.
Does this offer any new features over the comma 3?
Will this work with a 2024 ford explorer st?
Can I use it for the Mazda CX30?
Does this stop at stoplights and navigate in the city like atesla?
I want see openpilot on Aptera
That'll be incredible :)
I get it and the openpilot not work - dashcam mode , need help my car ram 1500 (2022)
openpilot requires the RAM 1500 to come equipped with Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC).
100K - you got me beat by about 20K. I don't actually know because I forgot to capture the miles I put on with the Comma 2 (I'm at 43K with my Comma 3). Everything you said is true. In fact, we've decided on our next car based on (in part) it's OpenPilot support. My wife thought I was crazy to spend the money on the first one; now she won't drive without it!
I thought the stop and go is only available with cars that have radar cruise control with stop and go ( or an electronic parking brake )
True, check specific car compatibilities at comma.ai/vehicles
wish manufacturers would stop blocking commaAI. I want to buy a new GMC sierra pickup but I am NOT going to use that crappy bluecruise
Hahaha yes, openpilot rocks!
GM's Super cruise is the best hands free driving systems from any manufacturer the only downside is that it is subscription based
@@nathanhenry9203Tesla FSD?
@@asikunasupercruise is better than FSD. (On the highway)
@@Plague_Rat778I doubt that
Would get this, but sadly, it isn't compatible with the 2017 Ford Fusion
how does that affect insurance?
Amazing video Chris! Is your Civic torque modded? Mine is 2.5x
Also is your gas/brakes still being controlled by Honda sensing? I know OP long is still alpha with civic and experimental.
Yes, it's a 2x torque mod. In 2016-18 Civics, they use openpilot long!
Hello
1st : thanks for this amazing video,
2nd : can i use this in my car Toyota Avanza 2019 !!
This works in audi a5 2014 ?
I have a VW ID.4 and it’s built in ‘open pilot’ is terrific, there is no need to put this on in. 92k miles and it’s going strong.
Dude!!!! It’s Jerry from Chico. What about openpilot for Aptera.
Great video!!
Are there updates for the system in the future?
It’s updated all the time. Check out the blogs
@@alexbowden52 Awesome thanks!
At Comma Con last summer, the company’s founder said that the hardware capacity of Comma 3X would be enough for another 2 years of Openpilot development. Soft updated regular. I wait when it will be not 0.x, but 1.x)))
Usually there's a new update every month or so!
@@VirtuallyChris Awesome thank you!
How much of your view does this thing take up?
What do you think of Tesla FSD 12.3.4 vs OpenPilot?
FSD is really awesome, but openpilot is more chill. I'll plan to do a comparison video soon!
@@VirtuallyChris that would be very cool to see
@@VirtuallyChris I believe FSD is more advanced than OpenPilot.
I like Open Pilot better than Tesla’s Auto Pilot.
Does this work in RHD markets or is only for America?
Works worldwide! It auto-detects if you're RHD.
Very neat! But if I get a car that takes sidecar then the view is unobstructed!
I'd still opt for openpilot, since you get guaranteed software updates with models trained for the correct cameras.
@@VirtuallyChris Sure but sidecar seems still the ultimate nerd's choice.
When will the team start working on e2e long?
They have, and it's getting pretty good! Expect some new videos on the latest models soon :)
@@VirtuallyChris Thank you for the reply!! That is very encouraging :)
Fantastic review
Glad you liked it!
I don't think these self-driving systems will work in Europe any time soon. Because of the shape and size of roads and streets that were designed prior to cars.
I plan to add Open Pilot to my Tesla. Anyone here done that? Open Pilot has been the best part of my Volt for the past five years.
as Toyota Venza 2021 user, I can't use Openpilot until Toyota TSK is solved.
Seems like the community is making progress! I hope it gets solved soon too.
@@VirtuallyChrisI doubt it. It's been almost 4 years.
Huh funny seeing you in aliso Viejo
How is this legal?
How is Tesla’s terrible Autopilot legal?
@@nsglcck I’m not questioning the quality. I’m asking if my insurance will stiff me if / when they discover that something like this were to be installed in my car and I got in a crash.
@@UloPe You can let your insurance know you're installing an aftermarket dashcam that also performs driver monitoring / driver assistance features. I have it listed on my Geico insurance :)
@@VirtuallyChris I‘m in Europe, soo…
@@UloPe That’s your problem
Once my comma 1 die and comma three go below 600 and I will get one.
least obvious affiliate farmer.
What the f*** I thought you were dead
Surprise! I rise again hahaha
@@VirtuallyChris 😂
Millions of minutes vs Tesla's millions of hours.
Wait wtf is up with the green nails 😅
Hahaha that's a comma employee, not me!
Support for Mg4 base model ev would be the bees pajamas 🥹