Building the world’s greenest Bitcoin mine

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  • @Ninjaeule97
    @Ninjaeule97 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How about changing the puzzle that miners have to solve into one that helps the scientific community? All that computing power being used to solve pointless puzzles, when university's are paying millions for supercomputers. 😢

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is not an alternative for a self-auditing system that is dependent on a third party oversight. If you figure out that problem, then we are all ears.
      Unfortunately you are not providing a solution, just an unconstructive critique. Do better bro, you are embarrassing yourself.

    • @Ninjaeule97
      @Ninjaeule97 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DiiceForeveroO When Covid happened I was folding at home, to speed up the end of the pandemic. Curecoin (another crypto) was paying me based on how much folding happened. Of course, I didn't go into this for the money, but thought hey if I'm using computing resources usefully, might as well take the reward (they aren't worth much anyway). I'm no Bitcoin expert, but shouldn't it be possible to do something similar? In STEM you often get differential equations, which are pretty hard puzzles. Isn't it possible to change the Bitcoin protocol into one where you only get paid for calculating correct solutions to DEs?

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ninjaeule97 Here is the FACTS. Curecoin consensus system has PoS function making curecoin inherently centralized protochol. Bitcoin is truly decentralized. You have failed make a legitamate alternative. Curecoin function as an unregistered security while bitcoin is real true digital commodity.
      The amount of people using Curecoin is PATHETICALLY SMALL. Cuecoin's consensus system has NOT been tested at scale unlike bitcoin. BTW, looking at the price history of Curecoin, it looks like a FAILED AND DEAD crypto project making any this alternative a bad suggestion, LMAO.
      There is NO real alternative to bitcoin we have currently. That is what makes bitcoin special. Absolute mathematical scarcity achieved by consensus in a sufficiently decentralized distributed network was a discovery rather than an invention. It cannot be achieved again by a network made up of participants aware of this discovery since the very thing discovered was resistance to replicability itself.

    • @pedronied
      @pedronied ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, that would be ideal. There are coins that give rewards for protein folding simulations, for example.

    • @regular_goof
      @regular_goof ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Create a Bitcoin Improvement Proposal, if it gets voted for and approved, the bitcoin protocol gets updated, or forked, and then the users will decide which version they deem safer and which they support.

  • @MadRedAlchemist
    @MadRedAlchemist ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is cope, crypto is dead, go back to covering actual tech.

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bitcoin is not 'crypto', it will be back bigger than ever.

    • @Mr.McMello
      @Mr.McMello ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitcoin is not crypto

  • @CollinReinking
    @CollinReinking ปีที่แล้ว +72

    This feels an awful lot like greenwashing.

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bitcoin will be foundational to future of renewable heavy grids as a load balancer. Do the work.

    • @evanli421
      @evanli421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michael2275 I mean they didn't explain it very well, i only understand cos i'm taking circuits in university right now

    • @防火长城
      @防火长城 ปีที่แล้ว

      why though? the idea seems to be generally working as it should?

    • @tysonfromearth
      @tysonfromearth ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How is it deceptive or misleading? If these mines can be optimized for areas with ideal renewable energy potential the resulting demand will create an infrastructure of cheap renewable energy and keep it stable and productive.

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tysonfromearth He's not interested in factual matters, just virtue signalling.

  • @rontogunov282
    @rontogunov282 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    you could do the exact same thing but instead of mining bitcoin, power computation to solve actual problems. crypto can work on proof of stake (eg Ethereum), there is no reason to use more energy intensive process than necessary.

    • @FalloutConspiracy
      @FalloutConspiracy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bitcoin mining does solve actual problems:
      1) Provides an economic solution to the intermitency problem of renewable energy generation and transmission with respect to supply and demand curves;
      2) Provides anyone on the planet with an internet connection 24/7access to a permissionless global monetary network that's self audited and has no counterparty risk;
      3) Provides dissidents/journalists living under politically repressive regimes with an open and permissionless way to raise money and transact outside of the existing financial system
      Just because you don't like it for ideological reasons doesn't mean that Bitcoin's proof of work mining has no utlity. Proof of stake is just recreating the existing financial system on a blockchain where those with the biggest bags have the most say in governance and receive the largest share of staking rewards by virtue of having the biggest bags. Also, staking rewards are just glorified token inflation that only serves to devalue the underlying asset over the long run. The people hurt the most are those at the bottom of the economic totem pole with the smallest holdings.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Proof of stake cannot function without third party oversight or a centralized developing team. Bitcoin and PoW is self-auditing and self-regulating.

  • @Durch-Laucht
    @Durch-Laucht ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This would be awesome if it would be used for anything but crypto.

    • @Mr.McMello
      @Mr.McMello ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bitcoin is not crypto

  • @taylorphoenix8
    @taylorphoenix8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Doesn’t bitcoin mining switching to proof of stake make all of this a moot point?

    • @regular_goof
      @regular_goof ปีที่แล้ว

      There is very little chance that bitcoin wil go from pow to pos

  • @ScriptOn2
    @ScriptOn2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's wild reading the comments and seeing how many people are still brainwashed by these coins.

  • @keyworksurfer
    @keyworksurfer ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I miss when this channel was about actual useful and cool futuristic stuff..

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bitcoin is the first digital property right and digital commodity and has transacted TRILLIONS of dollar worth of value without the need of a company/bank. Infact, $62 trillion dollars from 2021-2022 alone, according to coinmetrics, a cryptodata collecting company.
      Seems kinda useful and futuristic... Try doing that with gold (or any type of property asset) in the modern digital era...

  • @souptiksheet0
    @souptiksheet0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Renewable energy is precious so don't waste it

    • @duncanrobertson6472
      @duncanrobertson6472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The issue is that sometimes it actually isn't. There are a lot of challenges with getting renewables to reliably power a grid, and one of them is that you will often have way more power than what's being used.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Energy ISN'T FINITE. Energy is abundant and can be used to create revenue. The problem is renewable energy is stranded and is hard to transport. However, Unused Renewable energy can be funded by bitcoin mining if that energy is not being used.
      These renewable energy is NOT POLLUTIVE.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bitcoin is already one of the most environmentally friendly uses of energy on the planet it's monetizing what would have been wasted energy or stranded energy. it's empowering small communities in Africa across the world it actually makes renewable energy profitable.

  • @Ninjaeule97
    @Ninjaeule97 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great, instead of using green energy to power homes, cars, etc. we use it to mine bitcoin. A currency which almost nobody uses to buy stuff 🙄

    • @Mr.McMello
      @Mr.McMello ปีที่แล้ว

      Waisted energy…

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      $62 TRILLION dollars worth of value was transferred over bitcoin network in 2021-2022 without the need of banks or government control. Try doing that with gold or us dollars.
      Btw, who elected you to decide how electricity is used? I don't remember anyone giving you power to dictate how energy should be allocated.
      Kinda sad and pathetic mindset to tell people how to live their lives don't ya think?

    • @Ninjaeule97
      @Ninjaeule97 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiiceForeveroO while I support the right for privacy and therfore think that crypto has is uses, this video was about how 'green' bitcoin is. So I'm entitled to my opinion that we could use green energy for more practical uses.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ninjaeule97 Bitcoin is digital property which allows billions of people the opportunity to own digital property rights that weren't available before bitcoin.
      Do you not value property rights?
      Seems like you don't really understands bitcoin's use case for the world and focus too much and the energy aspects.
      Seems like a practical use case and an ethical pursuant don't you think? Seem like a useful tradeoff of energy usage for digital property rights.
      But oh well, that's my opinion...
      But here is a fact you are missing. Bitcoin mining leverages 52.6% sustainable energy, making it an appealing ESG investment so the energy usage seems green compared to many other industries.

    • @Ninjaeule97
      @Ninjaeule97 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiiceForeveroO I do value property rights. I'm not proposing to take away anyones bitcoin. Maybe you read the other comment I left under this video, where I asked if you could change the puzzle needs to solve to earn Bitcoin. Just over 50% sustainable energy isn't something I would consider that ESG . But hey that's just my opinion.

  • @herwigg3327
    @herwigg3327 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why not just biuld batteries that charge while access power and return the stored power during the rest of the time? - wouldn't that make more sense?

    • @duncanrobertson6472
      @duncanrobertson6472 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't solve the transport issue - we can't efficiently move charge from hot and windy SW Texas to the population centers than need it. Also, batteries not fully efficient, you always lose some percentage of what you store, sometimes a very large percentage. Lithium batteries are relatively efficient, but lithium mining is enormously destructive and difficult. I know people working on improving the "mining" methods (they actually extract lithium from groundwater), but even if that improves, lithium will be primarily used for applications where it's important to be relatively light and portable (laptops, cell phones, cars, etc). For now, batteries are not a sufficient solution to the massive inconsistencies in renewable power output.

    • @herwigg3327
      @herwigg3327 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@duncanrobertson6472 there are already alternatives to Lithium (e.g. compressed air, CO2, ambri, h2o, flow batteries, concrete Block Towers, ...)
      In a net of increasing renewables, storage will be a major concern. These batteries reduce peak loads of the net and provide a smoothing of the fluctuations from renewables. Bitcoin miners flatten out the peaks but unless batteries cannot provide stored power back in other times. There are already other Crypto techniques requiering less power ... (Proof of stake - ehterium, Proof of space-time Chia, ...) The only "Green" alternative for Proof of Work miners like bitcoin would be If they replace an electric heater (and also this only If a heat pump cannot bei used)

    • @herwigg3327
      @herwigg3327 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiiceForeveroO If you read my message, you will see, it starts with a "why" - I don't recall where a question has anything to do with dictatorship. I was just curious why the presented option was selected over the alternative that came to my mind. I am willing to learn! Are you?

  • @pcsn02
    @pcsn02 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I just wonder what else can we do with that much of a power?

    • @5ANDW1CHES
      @5ANDW1CHES ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just wonder how little you know about the current financial system. If you knew about it, that thought wouldn't even cross your mind.

    • @Ninjaeule97
      @Ninjaeule97 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We can power homes, cars, trains, industry, make H2, etc.

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Do you wonder that about all xbox's? No. Ridiculous statement.

    • @Mr.McMello
      @Mr.McMello ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ninjaeule97it’s waisted energy. If it’s not being used to mine Bitcoin it is literally being waisted. (Not used)

    • @freethink
      @freethink  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The idea is that if the power is needed for the grid, it can be used for it. But if not, it generates income. By increasing the economic viability of solar panels - which can have issues with excess generation at times of the day when power is cheap - hopefully they enable more to be produced and installed everywhere.

  • @ervinpm
    @ervinpm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:05 anime youtube suggestions 😅

  • @Raivias4
    @Raivias4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A more green solution to this would be a battery that stores and releases excess energy like a capacitor instead of burning off the additional energy into heat.

  • @rubengres5857
    @rubengres5857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is such a waste of ressources

  • @thevenetianmask1427
    @thevenetianmask1427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I somewhat get that ...but I still dont understand how is putting all those resources in green grid building for Bitcoin, rather that say houses or industries? ...I mean, aren´t we struggleing enough with changeing our current energy mix? ...for a financial asset that requires increaseingly amounts of energy, you will eventually need insane amounts on infrastructure to support its operation. Still not sustainable. ....those are some of the issues or questions that I have no answers for yet. ...like how the increaseingly amount of resources put into BTC operation are better placed there than current green economy/infrastucture transition if Bit Coin adoption still has an enormus market share yet to aquire.
    Is becouse of this that I still dont understand the logic behind supporting infrasturcure for PoW in digital assets.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      This is one of the great reasons why states should encourage Bitcoin mining - Balancing the power grid.
      One problem power grid operators face is increased peak demand on very hot days. This is a problem because the energy demand is not constant so they cannot invest to increase capacity. Bitcoin fixes this. By creating demand at all times, which can be dynamically adjusted as required, it gives the incentive to expand capacity.
      This is what we should be explaining to power alarmists as to why Bitcoin mining is actually good. And of course also the fact renewables are being increasingly more employed since they're cheaper by the day.

  • @TrustVisuals
    @TrustVisuals ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am a fan of Freethink and I totally support it. Pleaswe keep doing the good work even when the comments are not popular because people live in a bubble.

    • @freethink
      @freethink  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers, thanks so much!

    • @AwesomeBlackDude
      @AwesomeBlackDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Understand you taking away people livelihood, B Corporation isn't the only ones who can do green.

  • @IntegraFranz
    @IntegraFranz 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the analysis! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

  • @Pgeorgiex
    @Pgeorgiex ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Comment section is filled with uninformed haters.

  • @snoopaka
    @snoopaka ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grid stabilization is an important goal to achieve.

  • @albertwang5974
    @albertwang5974 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The most green digital currency is US dollar, US can print as many as they want, and cost nothing!

    • @filix92
      @filix92 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How much do you think the US Banking system consumes in terms of power? Have a guess.

    • @RhizometricReality
      @RhizometricReality ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your right. We should abolish currency and banking and bureaucratics and have a post scarcity where you just can have a thing cause you want and need it.

  • @regular_goof
    @regular_goof ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many people in the comments still seem to not understand the importance of Bitcoin and the reasons why it should exist

  • @Baron_von_ztreik
    @Baron_von_ztreik ปีที่แล้ว

    Aus welchen Rohstoffen wurde alles dafür hergestellt?
    Welche Energiequelle wurde dafür genutzt?
    Selbst wenn alles wiederverwertet und co2 frei ist, hätte man diese Ressourcen für anderes nutzen können. Selbst die Energie jetzt könnte für normales Leben genutzt werden.

  • @danmckstwexkrpfe
    @danmckstwexkrpfe ปีที่แล้ว

    Bit coin will never be green compared to a normal electronic transaction since it requires a world wide computer network to validate each transaction by inverting a cryptographic hash. Thats a very expensive operation, these people are fooling themselves.

  • @pedronied
    @pedronied ปีที่แล้ว

    That's fine, but nuclear power is basically green, minus the waste, which is not that big a deal.

  • @perlindholm4129
    @perlindholm4129 ปีที่แล้ว

    No. Bitcoin is about money security. Security first green energy is last.

  • @lucasbowman7188
    @lucasbowman7188 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not a solution.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not a solution for what?

  • @Oh.ThatRyan
    @Oh.ThatRyan ปีที่แล้ว

    isnt the point of the system that it isnt centralized or regulated so how are you going to get the users to use renewables?! Feels like green washing something that isnt actually doing any good.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitcoin is already one of the most environmentally friendly uses of energy on the planet it's monetizing what would have been wasted energy or stranded energy. it's empowering small communities in Africa across the world it actually makes renewable energy profitable.

  • @lnteIIigence
    @lnteIIigence ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not interested.

  • @rdapigleo
    @rdapigleo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a waste. Just go proof of stake.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      proof of stake is inherently centralized, bitcoin PoW consensus system is sufficiently decentralized.
      You did not offer a sufficient alternative. Try again.

  • @user-yu7nd4mw6t
    @user-yu7nd4mw6t ปีที่แล้ว

    I love bitcoin

  • @Libra67jtc
    @Libra67jtc ปีที่แล้ว

    This BS coin....I mean bitcoin is an elitist waste of energy that can be used for more useful things. However these companies use words like green and renewable to justify this ridiculous endeavor. Put these resources to better use.

  • @audreydelgado9231
    @audreydelgado9231 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Promosm' 💐

  • @RandomGuy-nm6bm
    @RandomGuy-nm6bm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Etheriums model works with proof of stake instead of proof of work, so the idea, that the work is detrimental for the security of the network is questionable.

    • @michael2275
      @michael2275 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ETH and PoS are trash

  • @wisdomhappy587
    @wisdomhappy587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Facsinating, good strategy for the near term.

  • @RoolSkool
    @RoolSkool ปีที่แล้ว +2

    70% of Bitcoin mining is done using renewable energy.

  • @RoolSkool
    @RoolSkool ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that ben affleck? 😂😂😂😂

  • @ikeasnake
    @ikeasnake ปีที่แล้ว

    Second

  • @jevans101
    @jevans101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could crypto fans be wrong? Yes.
    Can crypto deniers be wrong? No

  • @andrewmutavi590
    @andrewmutavi590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos,every little bit helps in the grand scheme of things

  • @gammaraypotatoes3307
    @gammaraypotatoes3307 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Promoting decentralized pyramid schemes wow

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      "decentralized pyramid schemes"- is literally an oxymoron.
      You cannot be "decentralized" and a " pyramid scheme" at the same time. You should probably know definition of the words you use so you don't embarrass yourself 🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂🤪😂

    • @gammaraypotatoes3307
      @gammaraypotatoes3307 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiiceForeveroOYou’re wrong, It isn’t mutually exclusive, it can be both decentralized and a pyramid scheme.
      Each cryptocurrency is itself a pyramid scheme in which value is added to the currency via an exchange with real world currency. Those who arrive early and collected coins see the value of their coins rise exponentially while those who purchase or mine the increasingly harder to get cryptocurrency lose when the early miners and purchasers withdraw real world currency, deflating the exchange rate, causing the pyramid scheme to collapse.
      What makes this decentralized is that there is no direct communication between the parties, but rather a concentrated effort through the collective understanding that if they hype up the project, more people will exchange real currency for cryptocurrency.
      Those who were literate in financial crimes probably would’ve spotted this pattern and either stayed away or perpetuated the pyramid benefiting themselves while those who were none the wiser hadn’t the knowledge to stay away from criminal activities.
      It is important to note that @DiiceForrveroO is involved with cryptocurrency, and is probably financially incentivized by promoting it, though that may be forever unknown, but prudence should be taken.
      Here is his Description page I pulled from his TH-cam Channel,
      “Hello, it's Dice! On this channel I share and react to the latest news in the stock, crypto, and financial space!”
      “***NOT FINANCIAL, LEGAL, OR TAX ADVICE! This channel is for entertainment purposes only and is just my opinion as I am not an expert or a financial planner. Please perform your own research. Conduct your own due diligence before making ANY investment decisions, I am NOT a financial advisor.”
      He is aware of Liability and is attempting to remove it from himself.

  • @Rexschwert
    @Rexschwert ปีที่แล้ว

    Первый

  • @singh5105
    @singh5105 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No

  • @liberallarry847
    @liberallarry847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Increase in the use of solar for crypto mining can also increase solar manufacturing overall, which would decrease solar costs, and further encourage power plant builders to use solar.

    • @rontogunov282
      @rontogunov282 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Crypto had the opposite effect on cost of GPUs. increased demand -> increased cost. in most systems, that would lead to increased production, increased efficiency with scale, and reduced cost (as you predict). I suspect that when the thing driving demand is literally the production of money, it breaks the loop that should decrease cost because any increase in manufacturing efficiency is matched with increased demand that prevents costs from going down.

  • @irlshrek
    @irlshrek ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aaaaand unsubbed

  • @cdes68
    @cdes68 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no future for crypto.

    • @DiiceForeveroO
      @DiiceForeveroO ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitcoin is already one of the most environmentally friendly uses of energy on the planet it's monetizing what would have been wasted energy or stranded energy. it's empowering small communities in Africa across the world it actually makes renewable energy profitable.

  • @eurekafarts
    @eurekafarts ปีที่แล้ว +6

    unsubscribe