Everyone these days remember planes as slightly quieter thunder, not a small earthquake that shakes your windows right in their frame. Not that that's a bad thing, i like not being woken up at 2am
I was around long before quiet engine technology which was introduced in the 80's so the 90's wasn't a problem unless you were near a air base. Even today the Air Force is stubbornly refusing to use quiet engines even on their subsonic transports where they have no excuse.
@@bentonmarcum8924high bypass turbofans produce significantly less thrust than the low bypass turbofans that are used in military applications. Thrust is kind of important in fighters, as well as cargo aircraft that may be required to carry loads like multiple MBTs or other large aircraft well in excess of what airlines are capable of within the same dimensional constraints for the airframe.
@@phtevenmolz5030 however being designed to travel subsonic cargo/troop transport planes wouldn't need more thrust than commercial jet liners. Except maybe for the BUFF given the size weight and weight capacity. The planes I observed were definitely not BUFF.
@@Tarquinthetyrantnah you cant design em like regular airliners this existed decades ago with Concorde and you cant fit that many seats on anything supersonic and it takes a tremendous amount of fuel to do so the ticket is never going to be affordable on that one unfortunately
Not necessarily. While the flight hour is more expensive, it can rake more profit per hour if it is REALLY faster. So might not need to be that absurd price range (if there is competition at least)
How are your flights only 30 minutes? Where are you going? The next town over? I’m thinking it would definitely help cross-continent or over the ocean flight though. Those can take like 6-12 hours fairly often.
In _The Man in the High Castle_ there is a ballistic rocket flight from Germany (Dusseldorf I think) to San Francisco. A little over 30 minutes travel time. Over 2½ hours to clear customs 😂
Computers are becoming more advanced day after day. Wouldn’t be surprised if big name airports decided to purchase quantum computers for this sort of thing a couple decades from now.
When airplane was first invented it was less than 1%. Many many years later, first commercial airplane where normal people with money can go. Years later again, commercial airlines got bigger and more affordable. Present. Additive manufacturing is a thing.
@@ThreeWhiteSoldiers Not at all, and though we flew well over the speed of sound & undoubtedly created sonic booms… You’re traveling so fast that you never hear or feel the sonic boom inside of the aircraft. They had these cool screens which showed the Concorde’s realtime speed & current service ceiling! I was a lucky kid that day, almost feels like I experienced the future 23 years ago…
@@ROH_001 I wish I knew how magical that unique experience was back then, & if you’ve got any pointers on keeping some random luck up; I’ll take’em brother🙏🌎🤠
As a kid I heard multiple sonic booms in the morning and evening as B-58 bombers practiced runs over my home town. The sound was not thuds, but double cracks close together. It was not very loud, more like two bullwhips in rapid succession!
NASA can't help with that. And the USDOT definitely has the funds to make proper maintenance happen but are squandering it, just like every other government department.
Yeah immagine the fuel burned/co2 Emitted. Yet new cars are falling apart and breaking down as I type. ..nevermind the world falling apart..lets focus billions on supersonic planes...
@@supercoach6544Not in a world where they’re responsible to customers and shareholders. But we haven’t lived in that world since government got involved. Now they can get bailed out, get taxpayer subsidies, and have their less politically-connected competition regulated out of business.
@@rfichokeofdestinyyou know why commercial airliners fly at 30,000-35,000 feet and slightly below mach? Its the most efficient speed and altitude for a plane like that to fly at. To go faster at that altitude, they need alot more thrust, to increase in altitude to go faster, they need more thrust because right above 35,000 feet is a density barrier, which means just to fly at the same speed as they do at 30,000-35,000 feet, and they need much more thrust to actually go faster. They could actually fly faster without breaking mach or violating the federal ban, they dont do it because its not profitable. Every pound of extra thrust cuts into their margins, same reason why flights on the Concorde were more expensive than the same flight in a submach airliner. Your point is invalid friend, doesnt matter who they answer to, its still about the money.
@@tlgibson97 I'm not sure, but I think it could only _enter_ supersonic over the water. I think if they were already supersonic when they came over land, they could continue. I could be wrong.
@@JonesNate sonic boom doesn't happen only once you become supersonic. It happens continuously, but you hear it once in videos because it passes by you once.
I live not to far from Peterson and Schriever AFBs and its always a blast hearing the jets rip around in military airspace. They do a ton of training near me, always getting buzzed by something cool as hell. From 16s to 130s, a B2, and even a few squadrons of A-10s.
@@thevortex6754 there's no need in military aviation for something like this, the mlst important thing right now is stealth capability to avoid getting locked by Missiles
I'll do you one better. Go camping in the Mojave desert in Utah and you can hear the bomb testing randomly throughout the day. If you're close enough, the ground shakes just a little too.
If anyone is wondering what a seat would cost, it was upwards of $5,000 a seat (sometimes more) from JFK to Heathrow back in the 90's. It would undoubtedly be triple that now, at least.
I guess it depends how big and efficient the planes are. Concord was in development long before CAD (computer aided design) was possible and when it was possible it wasn't great. So it might now be possible to use CAD simulations to drastically increase the size of these planes and also reduce their fuel consumption, which would bring down running costs and their ticket price. Making them accessible for everyone, which would also bring down the ticket price. We also don't really know what will be possible in the future, with batteries and alternative fuels. At the moment we are stuck using a limited resource, that's controlled by a minority of people, for jet fuel. But maybe in the future our battery technology will be light enough to allow for cheap renewable energy to power our planes at the same speeds as jets. Or for an alternative renewable fuel source to be a more efficient source of energy for jets. Basically all renewables will become cheaper over time as more and more people use and produce them. While fossil fuels will only become more and more expensive over time as they are harder to get - we are already seeing this in the US and UK who are turning to fracking as a way to try and get more oil out of the ground. Eventually other countries will have to do the same and those will eventually be used up too. So our best bet is to stop using them and put all our efforts into creating massive renewable energy infrastructure so we will have cheaper energy in the future for air travel, before we run out of fossil fuels.
@@idontwanttopickoneCan you imagine? Battery powered concords made of lighter material and covered by solar panels? In an ideal world, just based on technology in development now, all that is actually possible. Through economies of scale, it might even become affordable or even cost effective as compared to current gas powered Boeings. Who knows, maybe flights might even become so quick and cheap, it’s no longer a luxury for the common folks and tourism skyrockets as a result.
@@comedyshortsincIt’s not even remotely possible now. Current battery technology has nowhere near the energy density of petroleum and the weight requirements of aircraft make them even less viable than cars, which are already a scam.
@@comedyshortsincwhat are you smoking? Guessing your opinion has zero bearing to basic understanding of physics….. first things first…… there isn’t any way and won’t ever be a way to create the same level of thrust from a combustion jet engine from any electric motor. You can only power a propeller via electric motor and the size of the plane won’t ever be near the smallest commercial planes out of Boeing or airbus which is the 737 and A320. ALSO, for an airplane weight matters more than anything else. Do you understand how much heavier EV cars are and how much faster their lithium batteries get drained under full throttle? lol When turbofan jet equipped planes takeoff it has the ability for 110% power at max if the plane is at maximum fuel weight and occupancy. The most an electric motor plane can handle is a 2-4 seater plane and its range with our current battery technology won’t ever get you across either side of pacific or Atlantic Ocean. Even if it does land to “refuel” or better to say “recharge” it’ll take A LOT longer than a tanker full of gas pulling up to fill the fuel-tanks in the wings lol. I also mentioned the location of the fuel-tanks as a reminder to electric motor planes having to put the battery cells in the airframe meaning if something goes south you’re going to lose both engine rather than one like our conventional aircraft’s. This is why this entire EV movement for cars is oxymoron. Airplanes produce significantly more greenhouse gases than modern cars and they will never EVER have the option of going full electric. I can definitely see hybridized variants in the future, but it’s just simply newtons 3rd law that doesn’t allow for the required thrust necessary.
@rfichokeofdestiny it's in development for real, as it's in development a new clean nuclear energy. AI is opening new frontiers my friend, not because is smarter but because is giving us possibility to shorten by a massive amount of time processes that would instead take many years.
That's lack of development you're witnessing. These things are how politicians make bank. It's not about development, it's all about spending to skim off funds from your taxes. There's only one cure for addiction like that.
Above current cruising speed, fuel consumption skyrockets, thats why Concorde flights were so expensive. There is a clear and tested physical limitation to what airplanes can do while being affordable, so we may never see affordable supersonic flights. In order for that to happen, some discovery or technolody related the source of energy would have to be resolved.
Something I miss as a kid is the sonic booms.. they would happen every couple months lol just a big boom that would rattle your dishes and your house lol. I used to love that.. would scare the crap out of my mom, but I thought it was awesome.. I was standing by my house one day and heard what sounded like static getting closer.. then a fighter jet screeched over my house. I was standing opposite side of the house so when it came over it was unexpected.. disappeared behind the trees in less than a second.. yeah those days were super cool.
We used to hear huge ones in Lakeland fl when the Shuttle would re-enter. My aunt who lived 15 miles away didn't have this happen, but where we lived it happened every time. We were closer to the west coast of Fl, but you could still see every launch. It was awesome.
I heard the reason commercial airplanes didn't go faster is because of the incredible dip in fuel efficiency it takes to go supersonic. It kinda sounds like billionaire's private jets will go supersonic now, not people's commercial flights.
@@limbeboy7 correct. Their specific efficiency peak is in supersonic, meaning these engines operate more efficient in supersonic than subsonic. Their (absolute) efficiency however is way worse than any large bypass subsonic engine, because thermodynamics.
They're already testing. I live quite close to Lockheed. Been hearing people "slam a car door across the street" at night regularly for a several weeks.
I thought the primary reason we didn't have super sonic airline flights anymore was because it wasn't very economically viable anymore. With communication across the world being so cheap, accessible, and robust there are far fewer reasons for people to be traveling long distances at high speeds. That doesn't mean we won't see small-scale use of this in provate or corporate aviation, but I'd love to hear why I'd be wrong. Super sonic commercial aviation is dope.
No, it was prematurely retired because of legislation banning supersonic flight over land. If allowed to continue, it would have developed and become more affordable and profitable over time
My first big job at 19 some 25 years ago was being in charge of the security team at L3 communications which engineered allot of the mother boards for Boeing and Lockheed Martin, I got to see allot of neat test model aircraft the size of cars. Like the coolest toys for adults only worth millions. I’ts cool to see aircraft come to life after 20 years inside a warehouse.
The fuel costs of the Concorde (the commercial supersonic passenger jet) were a significant portion of a ticket's cost, because flying supersonic induces significsntly more drag than flying slightly subsonic, meaning supersonic jets have to thrust harder to maintain it, and therefore burn significantly more fuel flying. It would be amazing to lift a ban on supersonic aircraft though!
I wonder what this does for the lift and efficiency of the aircraft. More pressure above than below could mean negative lift at supersonic speeds, right?
This was literally my exact thought. Part of what allowed the XB70 to be so efficient when supersonic was to "ride the wave", literally using the pressure wave of the shock come under the lifting body/wing to generate lift. If all that energy (and resulting pressure) is being directed upward, I have to imagine that the aircraft will have to compensate with a higher lift angle and resulting drag.
Woah, I'm sure that the engineers have literally never considered this basic principle. After designing, simulation, and wind tunnel testing, they may have never thought about this principle? While the Valkerie rode its own shockwave and the high pressure zone is a component of lift, the subsonic airflow underneath the lifting surfaces does not imply that it produces negative lift. These are solvable problems and this is a novel and potentially potentially practical solution to the sonic boom problem. Unfortunately the efficacy of the project may still be in jeopardy, as going supersonic is simply very costly and there's absolutely no way around it.
The best part about those new supersonic aircraft is that they could be fully fuelled by combusting hydrogen and possibly be just as efficient as commercial jets because of them being able to carry more passengers overall over a long period of time with shorter flight times! :)
I know a former pilot that could’ve flown concord and has talked about wishing to see supersonic airliners so I hope within a few years his dream could be achieved
People forget why the concorde stopped flying. It wasn't because of the sonic booms or that accident that happened in France. It was cost of operation and comfort.
The fundamental issue with supersonic passenger flight is that it is massively cost ineffective because of drag. While the ground might not hear the sonic boom, it still is happening, and the plane is still experiencing massive amounts of drag
Fly upside-down like a boss
Made me laugh on a tired sleepless morning
Lmao
Inverted fly as a tactical weapon
You are the kind of person this ban was ever made
@@LEARNINGLAB0303 😭😭
People forget in the 50s-90s planes were so loud people had to stop entire sports games for them to pass over.
Yep. Saw a Concorde take off one time at Tampa airport. Can confirm just the take off on that beast was deafening
Everyone these days remember planes as slightly quieter thunder, not a small earthquake that shakes your windows right in their frame. Not that that's a bad thing, i like not being woken up at 2am
I was around long before quiet engine technology which was introduced in the 80's so the 90's wasn't a problem unless you were near a air base. Even today the Air Force is stubbornly refusing to use quiet engines even on their subsonic transports where they have no excuse.
@@bentonmarcum8924high bypass turbofans produce significantly less thrust than the low bypass turbofans that are used in military applications. Thrust is kind of important in fighters, as well as cargo aircraft that may be required to carry loads like multiple MBTs or other large aircraft well in excess of what airlines are capable of within the same dimensional constraints for the airframe.
@@phtevenmolz5030 however being designed to travel subsonic cargo/troop transport planes wouldn't need more thrust than commercial jet liners. Except maybe for the BUFF given the size weight and weight capacity. The planes I observed were definitely not BUFF.
"So we did a little trolling..."
*Flies upsidedown*
Ironically there was a Russian Super Weapon that was the same intent
"Just hit em with a air compresser but big"
All this to get us back to 1970. Government is awesome😂
@d261_gaming8 every bomb ever works on this principle
@@d261_gaming8russian superweapons be like
“Perry this you filthy casual”
*slams you into the ground with a physics gun*
@@robertreese2600 The government doesn't want a supersonic boom over land mass because it's dangerous.
We’re getting Concorde 2 before gta 6 bruh 💀
Rlyyy❤???😂
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Seems to be an American design. Probably should call it "discord" instead
nice pfp lol😂
@@theblacksplit ain’t no way 💀
Price: $50,000 per seat, overhead luggage not included
After 20 years it’ll be affordable
@@Tarquinthetyrantit would probably take longer if we even still exist
@@Tarquinthetyrantnah you cant design em like regular airliners this existed decades ago with Concorde and you cant fit that many seats on anything supersonic and it takes a tremendous amount of fuel to do so the ticket is never going to be affordable on that one unfortunately
thats what they said about concorde@@Tarquinthetyrant
Not necessarily. While the flight hour is more expensive, it can rake more profit per hour if it is REALLY faster. So might not need to be that absurd price range (if there is competition at least)
Imagine going super sonic and the side door blowing off
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all you need to do is make sure that boeing isn't the one making the plane
hopefully as long as the aircraft is not made by Boeing it won't be a problem, Lockheed has made civilian aircraft before (the Constellation)
Boeing can't manage to make something that can fly normally what makes you think they can even come close to super sonic 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Can’t wait for these planes to speed up my 30 minute flights between three hour layovers
Right?
How are your flights only 30 minutes? Where are you going? The next town over?
I’m thinking it would definitely help cross-continent or over the ocean flight though. Those can take like 6-12 hours fairly often.
@@andersnaugle4105 lets be honest, only millionaire can afford this. Average guy will stay the same
@@zee9709just wait till you find out what the cost of planes originally was
In _The Man in the High Castle_ there is a ballistic rocket flight from Germany (Dusseldorf I think) to San Francisco. A little over 30 minutes travel time. Over 2½ hours to clear customs 😂
The air traffic controllers will sound like auctioneers trying to coordinate all the fast incoming/outgoing traffic.
That job is already mostly done by computers.
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Computers are becoming more advanced day after day. Wouldn’t be surprised if big name airports decided to purchase quantum computers for this sort of thing a couple decades from now.
The number of near misses has gone up the last 10 yrs cus the air traffic controllers are inept
“For the low low price of your firstborn child, you too can get from Florida to Washington in 20 minutes, because whyyyy not?!?”
Bcz you gotta pay more for this jet ride, if you ever get to see it.
Hey, children are cheap & fun to make. 😂😂😂 kidding…. Well…. 🤨🤨👀😂
"Get us to our destination faster..."
Well, 1% of us anyway.
You sound like a nitpicker.
When airplane was first invented it was less than 1%.
Many many years later, first commercial airplane where normal people with money can go.
Years later again, commercial airlines got bigger and more affordable.
Present. Additive manufacturing is a thing.
@@paolosalvador so not us. Our great great grandchildren, potentially.
@@NelsonBrowngreat men plant trees the shade of which they will never sit under. But hey maybe when we’re just really old we’ll get a ride!
Insufferable
I’m 39, but got real lucky in 2001 when I missed a flight. I was put on a Concorde & it was amazing!
was it loud inside the plane?
@@ThreeWhiteSoldiers Not at all, and though we flew well over the speed of sound & undoubtedly created sonic booms… You’re traveling so fast that you never hear or feel the sonic boom inside of the aircraft. They had these cool screens which showed the Concorde’s realtime speed & current service ceiling! I was a lucky kid that day, almost feels like I experienced the future 23 years ago…
@@ThreeWhiteSoldiers I just realized I’ve traveled over the speed of sound wtf!? Wish I knew how special that accidental experience was in 2001 🤠
@@respektetoutlavi714 Very lucky u r Sir.. keep it up
@@ROH_001 I wish I knew how magical that unique experience was back then, & if you’ve got any pointers on keeping some random luck up; I’ll take’em brother🙏🌎🤠
As a kid I heard multiple sonic booms in the morning and evening as B-58 bombers practiced runs over my home town. The sound was not thuds, but double cracks close together. It was not very loud, more like two bullwhips in rapid succession!
Same here on the Arizona Strip
Did you know the tip of the whip cracks the sounds barrier? Well it breaks it but it sounds like a crack 😅
Yep the double crack followed by silence followed by the sound of the jet. Wild to see in person.
I just want trains that don’t derail
NASA can't help with that. And the USDOT definitely has the funds to make proper maintenance happen but are squandering it, just like every other government department.
this
Right? We just got around to making Henry Ford’s electric car a reality and people think we are going to live on Mars.
Yeah immagine the fuel burned/co2 Emitted. Yet new cars are falling apart and breaking down as I type. ..nevermind the world falling apart..lets focus billions on supersonic planes...
You're implying that it wasn't intentional
It's not just a question of sonic booms when it comes to commercial supersonic flights, it's also a question of profitability.
Some people are willing to pay, we probably won't see the return of Concorde-like aircrafts.
But smaller jets is more probable.
If it's NOT profitable, the industry would NOT do it... DUuuuHhh!!!😅😅😂
@@supercoach6544Not in a world where they’re responsible to customers and shareholders. But we haven’t lived in that world since government got involved. Now they can get bailed out, get taxpayer subsidies, and have their less politically-connected competition regulated out of business.
@@rfichokeofdestinyyou know why commercial airliners fly at 30,000-35,000 feet and slightly below mach? Its the most efficient speed and altitude for a plane like that to fly at. To go faster at that altitude, they need alot more thrust, to increase in altitude to go faster, they need more thrust because right above 35,000 feet is a density barrier, which means just to fly at the same speed as they do at 30,000-35,000 feet, and they need much more thrust to actually go faster. They could actually fly faster without breaking mach or violating the federal ban, they dont do it because its not profitable. Every pound of extra thrust cuts into their margins, same reason why flights on the Concorde were more expensive than the same flight in a submach airliner. Your point is invalid friend, doesnt matter who they answer to, its still about the money.
@@outkast937 Nothing you’ve said here has anything to do with my point.
Let's offer a little prayer to the Concorde, the OG supersonic commercial airplane ❤
Ah the Concorde.
"...faster than ever before!"
Concorde: "Am I a joke to you?"
The concord couldn't fly supersonic over land due to the sonic booms.
@@tlgibson97 I'm not sure, but I think it could only _enter_ supersonic over the water. I think if they were already supersonic when they came over land, they could continue.
I could be wrong.
These new supersonic aircraft could probably go faster.
@@JonesNate sonic boom doesn't happen only once you become supersonic. It happens continuously, but you hear it once in videos because it passes by you once.
@@hicri9739 This 👌👍
F16 over houston was NUTS ❤ the sky sounded like it was being torn apart slowly
When was that? During the wings over airshow?
I'm sure it's bad for the environment. How dare they😂
@@jimmyjames6318are you acting like you’ve never heard of noise pollution??
I live not to far from Peterson and Schriever AFBs and its always a blast hearing the jets rip around in military airspace. They do a ton of training near me, always getting buzzed by something cool as hell. From 16s to 130s, a B2, and even a few squadrons of A-10s.
My neighbor closing his car door is louder than 3 sonic booms💀
Thank you for mentioning that it'll sound as loud as a car door _from across the street_
Is it an american street,55 feet wide, or a normal street, 20 feet wide?
Too loud anyways, except for big cities. But many people don't live in big cities.
Yeah but it's not just one boom, it will be around a dozen per square mile
Look up a live feed of aircraft traffic. Do you know how annoying all of the car door slamming would be?
@@Mileal76do you know how sonic booms work
My rule of thumb is that if you’re hearing about it they’re already working on the successor
This is so true in most industries that I know of
this is civilian aviation, not the military
@@wizzotizzowho’s to say this didn’t originate from a military aircraft
@@thevortex6754 obviously, but it has nothing to do with what was said
@@thevortex6754 there's no need in military aviation for something like this, the mlst important thing right now is stealth capability to avoid getting locked by Missiles
I don’t want to be camping in the mountains listening to car door slams
I'll do you one better. Go camping in the Mojave desert in Utah and you can hear the bomb testing randomly throughout the day. If you're close enough, the ground shakes just a little too.
And I don’t want to watch TH-cam and hear your trifling ahh complain about advancements in technology
How do you travel to the mountains? And how do you access stated method of travel?
@@dickyr3295I walk out my back door and into the mountains. I live in the Rockies.
Must suck to live somewhere else
@@jacksonballa13 So you don’t drive then?
*door slammed*
"Wait did a plane gone supersonic"
No, sorry that was actually a door coming OFF an airplane 😂
@@lord-REDACTED- good one 😂
The RAF used to do training where I lived. They were loud as all heck
I am german so i First thought of the “rote Armee Fraktion” …. 😭😂
These supersonic designs are so retro 60s love it!
If anyone is wondering what a seat would cost, it was upwards of $5,000 a seat (sometimes more) from JFK to Heathrow back in the 90's. It would undoubtedly be triple that now, at least.
I guess it depends how big and efficient the planes are. Concord was in development long before CAD (computer aided design) was possible and when it was possible it wasn't great. So it might now be possible to use CAD simulations to drastically increase the size of these planes and also reduce their fuel consumption, which would bring down running costs and their ticket price. Making them accessible for everyone, which would also bring down the ticket price.
We also don't really know what will be possible in the future, with batteries and alternative fuels. At the moment we are stuck using a limited resource, that's controlled by a minority of people, for jet fuel. But maybe in the future our battery technology will be light enough to allow for cheap renewable energy to power our planes at the same speeds as jets. Or for an alternative renewable fuel source to be a more efficient source of energy for jets.
Basically all renewables will become cheaper over time as more and more people use and produce them. While fossil fuels will only become more and more expensive over time as they are harder to get - we are already seeing this in the US and UK who are turning to fracking as a way to try and get more oil out of the ground. Eventually other countries will have to do the same and those will eventually be used up too. So our best bet is to stop using them and put all our efforts into creating massive renewable energy infrastructure so we will have cheaper energy in the future for air travel, before we run out of fossil fuels.
@@idontwanttopickoneCan you imagine? Battery powered concords made of lighter material and covered by solar panels? In an ideal world, just based on technology in development now, all that is actually possible. Through economies of scale, it might even become affordable or even cost effective as compared to current gas powered Boeings. Who knows, maybe flights might even become so quick and cheap, it’s no longer a luxury for the common folks and tourism skyrockets as a result.
@@comedyshortsincIt’s not even remotely possible now. Current battery technology has nowhere near the energy density of petroleum and the weight requirements of aircraft make them even less viable than cars, which are already a scam.
@@comedyshortsincwhat are you smoking? Guessing your opinion has zero bearing to basic understanding of physics…..
first things first…… there isn’t any way and won’t ever be a way to create the same level of thrust from a combustion jet engine from any electric motor. You can only power a propeller via electric motor and the size of the plane won’t ever be near the smallest commercial planes out of Boeing or airbus which is the 737 and A320. ALSO, for an airplane weight matters more than anything else. Do you understand how much heavier EV cars are and how much faster their lithium batteries get drained under full throttle? lol
When turbofan jet equipped planes takeoff it has the ability for 110% power at max if the plane is at maximum fuel weight and occupancy. The most an electric motor plane can handle is a 2-4 seater plane and its range with our current battery technology won’t ever get you across either side of pacific or Atlantic Ocean. Even if it does land to “refuel” or better to say “recharge” it’ll take A LOT longer than a tanker full of gas pulling up to fill the fuel-tanks in the wings lol. I also mentioned the location of the fuel-tanks as a reminder to electric motor planes having to put the battery cells in the airframe meaning if something goes south you’re going to lose both engine rather than one like our conventional aircraft’s. This is why this entire EV movement for cars is oxymoron. Airplanes produce significantly more greenhouse gases than modern cars and they will never EVER have the option of going full electric.
I can definitely see hybridized variants in the future, but it’s just simply newtons 3rd law that doesn’t allow for the required thrust necessary.
@rfichokeofdestiny it's in development for real, as it's in development a new clean nuclear energy. AI is opening new frontiers my friend, not because is smarter but because is giving us possibility to shorten by a massive amount of time processes that would instead take many years.
Its remarkable how close the concords design and this modern one
They got it nearly perfect..... in the early 60s, incredible
The level of engineering and design that was achieved in the mid 20th century is insane to me. I’m routinely blown away by it.
That's lack of development you're witnessing. These things are how politicians make bank. It's not about development, it's all about spending to skim off funds from your taxes. There's only one cure for addiction like that.
Convergent evolution.
The smoothest butter landing i have ever seen. Congratulations man, congratulations.
It’s not just sound that is the problem. It’s full efficiency for commercial airliners!
Surely faster means more efficient, no?
@@comedyshortsincit's absolutely the opposite.
@@comedyshortsinc More energy lost to air resistance
Above current cruising speed, fuel consumption skyrockets, thats why Concorde flights were so expensive. There is a clear and tested physical limitation to what airplanes can do while being affordable, so we may never see affordable supersonic flights. In order for that to happen, some discovery or technolody related the source of energy would have to be resolved.
I remember when tbe Concord made her 1st year of flights, we could hear the sonic boom offshore of Nova Scotia Canada.. as it was flying to New York
Finally, a breakthrough in aviation since the 70s
Take a look at the reduction in ticket cost, and the improvement in safety stats since then
Something I miss as a kid is the sonic booms.. they would happen every couple months lol just a big boom that would rattle your dishes and your house lol. I used to love that.. would scare the crap out of my mom, but I thought it was awesome.. I was standing by my house one day and heard what sounded like static getting closer.. then a fighter jet screeched over my house. I was standing opposite side of the house so when it came over it was unexpected.. disappeared behind the trees in less than a second.. yeah those days were super cool.
I remember them happening when I was at elementary school recess...
We used to hear huge ones in Lakeland fl when the Shuttle would re-enter. My aunt who lived 15 miles away didn't have this happen, but where we lived it happened every time. We were closer to the west coast of Fl, but you could still see every launch. It was awesome.
I remember in the 70s sonic booms where something that I would here weekly.
Shoot we still had them in the 80s
And maybe the early 90s
@@davidpayton-pb8toNope, ban went into effect 1973 and was held by all branches of the military except in specific, wavered cases.
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I hear fighter jets every single week in modern day
Thanks Skunk works
We going inverted with this one 💨💥💨
I heard the reason commercial airplanes didn't go faster is because of the incredible dip in fuel efficiency it takes to go supersonic. It kinda sounds like billionaire's private jets will go supersonic now, not people's commercial flights.
Some supersonic engines are actually more efficient at supersonic speeds than subsonic. Look up ram jet engines
@@limbeboy7 correct. Their specific efficiency peak is in supersonic, meaning these engines operate more efficient in supersonic than subsonic. Their (absolute) efficiency however is way worse than any large bypass subsonic engine, because thermodynamics.
They're already testing.
I live quite close to Lockheed. Been hearing people "slam a car door across the street" at night regularly for a several weeks.
I thought the primary reason we didn't have super sonic airline flights anymore was because it wasn't very economically viable anymore. With communication across the world being so cheap, accessible, and robust there are far fewer reasons for people to be traveling long distances at high speeds. That doesn't mean we won't see small-scale use of this in provate or corporate aviation, but I'd love to hear why I'd be wrong. Super sonic commercial aviation is dope.
No, it was prematurely retired because of legislation banning supersonic flight over land. If allowed to continue, it would have developed and become more affordable and profitable over time
The reason why the Concorde was inefficient was because it can only go supersonic above the atlantic, not for the entirety of it's cruise time.
Private supersonic jet would be crazy 💀
there’s already private supersonic jets, just military ones you can buy
My first big job at 19 some 25 years ago was being in charge of the security team at L3 communications which engineered allot of the mother boards for Boeing and Lockheed Martin, I got to see allot of neat test model aircraft the size of cars. Like the coolest toys for adults only worth millions. I’ts cool to see aircraft come to life after 20 years inside a warehouse.
Waiting for development in the airline industry is like waiting on a space elevator. It's always right around the corner
Translation: "Similar to the sound of a car door being slammed _inside your head."_
I am from Albuquerque NM, as a child we used to hear sonic booms all the time. They stopped happening in my teens but all of us remember them.
The fuel costs of the Concorde (the commercial supersonic passenger jet) were a significant portion of a ticket's cost, because flying supersonic induces significsntly more drag than flying slightly subsonic, meaning supersonic jets have to thrust harder to maintain it, and therefore burn significantly more fuel flying. It would be amazing to lift a ban on supersonic aircraft though!
corection: drag coefficient PLUMMETS,between slightly subsonic to supersonic.
Can't imagine trying to coordinate hundreds of planes that are FASTER THAN SOUND.
i mean you probaly could say the same about jet planes back in the 1900's when props were the standard
Yeah, because normally they are coordinated by screaming from the tower and pilots scream back from the planes. 👍👍👍
@@SirPano85 No but they're twice as slow normally. Now what, extend the safety corridors to freaking 50km diameter around each plane?
@@danser_theplayer01 what about a military airbase in full activity?
@@SirPano85 It's not as common as a civilian airport with giant planes.
Whoa that’s actually BIG!!! That would be another huge step towards the future
Concord now : Am I a joke to you ? 😂😂😂
Concord was loud and not very fuel efficient
I wonder what this does for the lift and efficiency of the aircraft. More pressure above than below could mean negative lift at supersonic speeds, right?
This was literally my exact thought. Part of what allowed the XB70 to be so efficient when supersonic was to "ride the wave", literally using the pressure wave of the shock come under the lifting body/wing to generate lift. If all that energy (and resulting pressure) is being directed upward, I have to imagine that the aircraft will have to compensate with a higher lift angle and resulting drag.
Literally my fiancée and I just talked about how it would create more problems than solve… I.e drag, inefficiency, ect
They don't have a choice. Supersonic commercial aircraft are banned right now. This HAS to be quiet to convince congress to allow them again.
Woah, I'm sure that the engineers have literally never considered this basic principle. After designing, simulation, and wind tunnel testing, they may have never thought about this principle?
While the Valkerie rode its own shockwave and the high pressure zone is a component of lift, the subsonic airflow underneath the lifting surfaces does not imply that it produces negative lift. These are solvable problems and this is a novel and potentially potentially practical solution to the sonic boom problem.
Unfortunately the efficacy of the project may still be in jeopardy, as going supersonic is simply very costly and there's absolutely no way around it.
Depends which airlines are building them because a couple haven't been doing too well in that department lately.
When the aircraft is unlocked but can't pay the fuel price
I don’t need to get to my destination faster, I NEED to get there safely.
So how many Concorde flights were there? And how many of them crashed? Going by the numbers Concorde was probably the safest ever airplane...
Tower: "You are cleared to land on runway 7."
Plane: "READY OR NOT, HERE I COME!"
Sonic queef
I fly from Hawaii to Boston every year… if they could make that a 4hr flight for $3000 I’d be buyer. But I’ve got a feeling they will want more
L money waster
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First the URSS then the Concorde, the 80's are officially back
They'll never beat fiber, stay home log on and chill out
The best part about those new supersonic aircraft is that they could be fully fuelled by combusting hydrogen and possibly be just as efficient as commercial jets because of them being able to carry more passengers overall over a long period of time with shorter flight times! :)
Seeing it in person is a sight. That nose cone is HuUUUUGE😮
Sonic booms never was a huge problem and never was particularly loud. The ban was imposed just to remove Concorde from the US market.
“That will get us to our destinations faster than ever before”
Destination: *The afterlife*
“I need to be in Paris by lunch” “say less”
About damn time. This subject is fascinating.
Airport-adjacent houses: Thudthudthudthud
"Y'all I can't see the runway you're gonna have to guide me in"
I really hope this happens not for military or passenger planes, but cargo. If we somehow make a super sonic cargo plane, that would be insane.
Innovation is a good thing where there is integrity.
Concorde and DEI sounds like a greaaaat idea
About freaking time !!!
Can't wait! Would be great!
Adding the pissed off Ben Affleck slamming the car door was 🤌
i mean you still hear a fucking jet flying by with the engines to break the sound barrier
Imagine if you were talking to someone and then a noise like a car door being slammed is heard and then you can’t hear the person next to 😂😂
Getting rid of Sonic booms before GTA6 Is Crazy
That is so cool. Man, just a thud? Sheesh. Those scientists be revving their brains.
I'm just glad Taylor Will be able to make her long 15 min flights a tad shorter ❤
That's the N7. I'm here for it
This would open up a lot of doors to companies and furthering commercial space flight plans etc.
That is freaking amazing!!!
As a kid, we had my bedroom window crack from a sonic boom.
National super sonic flights will return its status as the elite class of seats.
This is so dope I hope they get it.
Natives:I'm pretty sure Red Arrow made one of those
Aliens: STOP SLAMMING YOUR CAR DOORS ALL THE TIME!
Now that would be a fun place to work
I can hear regular planes in the sky that would be cool
I know a former pilot that could’ve flown concord and has talked about wishing to see supersonic airliners so I hope within a few years his dream could be achieved
Air traffic control staff about to be half time rapper when this where launch
Warthunder players need this
That thing be crazy
This is so awesome
"Perfect speed, is being there." 😉
People forget why the concorde stopped flying. It wasn't because of the sonic booms or that accident that happened in France.
It was cost of operation and comfort.
I would name it the Arrowhead.
Now that's good tech😊😊😊
this would be awesome
Ozone layer: I thought we agreed on this!
Remember Concorde? Yeah, wild stuff
Boarding and unboarding is where the time saving needs to be
They can’t even keep the doors on the ones we have now
Cool idea. I'm glad the tech is being developed. I would rather see airship tech being developed.
The fundamental issue with supersonic passenger flight is that it is massively cost ineffective because of drag. While the ground might not hear the sonic boom, it still is happening, and the plane is still experiencing massive amounts of drag