There’s also a problem that as studios get less willing to take risks, comedy films have gotten lazier and more formulaic. And while that’s an issue with any genre, it absolutely kills comedy because half of what makes something funny is it being unexpected or clever in a way you couldn’t have thought of. My buddies in college and I even made up a game where we’d pitch lazy comedy films to each other where it was always “(Actor/Actress) and (Jason Bateman/Melissa McCarthy/Kevin Hart) are (relationship) and have to go to (place) because of (misunderstanding).”
Are you sure it isn't because people are more aware than ever about who is sitting on the throne of cultural leadership and they just don't find old jokes funny anymore? Let's imagine that someone makes a movie about the 3 stooges today, would that be funny? Not really. They tried. The three stooges would not work because in the past they were a joke/parody about the real people of high society and how ridiculous they were. Another example is the Monty Python movies who made jokes about all the ridiculousness of their own high society. Today, the Internet took over that throne and the solution seems simple enough: make jokes about the new person that sits on the throne with the big crown.... buuuut, now studios don't want to carry that label, they are too afraid of putting their names on movies that can be judged harshly 10 years from now. And that is self-censorship, Suffice it say this: maybe people aren't interested anymore because the jokes don't make sense to them anymore because you have nothing to compare them too. You can watch a slapstick movie today and wonder: why are these people hitting themselves when you can go to jail for that? You can't watch a romcom because people are thinking "ah, they had one argument, well they are wrong for each other"? Comedy is the supposed to be funny because it jokes about everything that's popular, powerful or dumb. And today, it's just not allowed to joke about those things.
@E Anyone who has the power to take away your livelihood by simply blacklisting you from the culture is basically sitting on a throne and deciding what the culture is or who gets to be in it.
@E As long as you leave room for context, and if you don't just block people from the industry I am okay with that. One example I can think of is that movie with Martin Lawrence where he plays a wannabe carjacker and gets stopped by a stereotypical cop who then tries to defend him from a bee because Martin's character is allergic to them, he gets filmed and gets charged for a racial crime because he is only seen swinging at Martin's direction. Context is what makes the difference between joke and crime.
@@danhair There's only one problem with this thesis: It would indicate that someone watching the old films wouldn't find them funny. _Duck Soup, Batman_ '66, and _Airplane!_ are all still widely regarded as hilarious. "Who's on First?" in all its wonderful permutations is probably the best known comedy sketch on the planet, and a well-done rendition is still sure to get applause. The idea that comedy is always and everywhere about power dynamics is... not worth discussing, except to note that it's hilariously wrong; "Who's on First?" isn't a power dynamic; it's a guy who can't understand he's confusing and the guy who is confused, but can't explain how, while both are crystal clear to the audience.
This entire decade has been dry for comedy films. The 2000's had like 50 iconic comedy films (including Superbad, Tropic Thunder, The Hangover), but this entire 2010's decade maybe only has like 5 iconic comedies. I'd say some of the best two are in the Jump Street series.
I am scraping the corners of my brain 🤔 this is usually my lane. I think you may just be right. I also can’t help but think, “I know I can think of more than 5?”. Then I actually can’t. This is bad.
The 2010s: Ted, 21 & 22 Jump street, Bridesmaids, The Other Guys, Daddys home, Horrible Bosses, Easy A, Hot Tube Time Machine, The wolf of wall street, Get Him to the Greek, Deadpool, Paul, About time, Game night, 50/50, Macgruber, The Green Hornet, Booksmart, Neighbors, Were the millers, Blockers..... The 2020s:😐
@@theanchhaybun6077 But if you tried to elicit organic laughter for a doc about 9/11, even today, it be all "Too soon, you're a fucking monster". Which is funny in itself. Because here in the UK, we were joking about how it was "the best three dart finish we'd ever seen" and getting lots of laughs. And this was actually on the day as a response to watching the New York footage, then hearing another plane had hit the Pentagon. Now, while I have to say that crashing planes into skyscrapers and killing thousands of people isn't funny, the jokes that come from such events, *can* be funny. Hideously inappropriate jokes about horrific things are how we, as a species begin to heal from such culturally impacting events. So yes, I laughed. And I'd laugh again tomorrow. Comedy doesn't care about your feelings. Every time comedy is forced to consider people's feelings, the horror wins. If we can't laugh at the horror, we are doomed to carry it around forever, and no-one's got time or energy for that. Except maybe the Christians. Just try cracking a 'Jesus was on the Cross' joke at Church if you don't believe me. They no longer burn you for that shit, but some of them wish they could. *That's* what we're essentially dealing with.
Shaun of the Dead? Evil Dead 1&2? Army of Darkness? Dead Alive? The Frighteners? Critters 1&2? Bad Taste? The list can keep goin for sure. Comedic Horror has always been my favorite genre/“mode”, lol. 🤘
It’s not that comedy is dying, it’s that nobody in Hollywood is funny anymore. They have the step by step formula for what comedy should be and how it should work, but they don’t have the writing/acting/natural charisma/characterization/personality/relatability/character chemistry/heart/spirit/soul to back it up or pull it off. It’s hollow, sad, and try’s too hard, like that one annoying kid in middle school that’s always making unfunny jokes and begging people to laugh with him, because he thinks that will make him popular. Most of it is unfunny, hard to watch, out dated before it even comes out, and just makes you sad to see your favorite actor/characters be forced to parade around like puppets on screen force to follow some blood money script written by random corporate marketing executives. Tl;dr- Real comedy is timeless and worth being seen by everyone, regardless of arbitrary demographics. Hollywood has mostly forgotten this in favor of fart jokes, lowest common denominator marketing, and desperately begging audiences to find them funny. It’s gross.
Good points, I'd add that Hollywood is too afraid to push any boundaries. Comedy should be unrestricted, yet in the past several years comedies have pandered to woke ideologies, severely limiting what can be joked about.
"My mother died... I'm celebrating." I laughed my ass off when Arthur Fleck said this in Joker. That whole scene is dark comedy gold. Very unexpected was probably the main reason why it was hilarious to me.
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I agree. Him jumpscaring the midget after killing the guy that got him fired, the midget not being able to reach the door, Joker kissing him o on the forehead after commiting a brutal crime...
13:49 another objection. Peele isn't making horror comedy. It's just horror. Horror comedy would be terrifying as well as comedic. Comedic moments in horror helps by making the situation more believable, either by establishing characters or connections, or levitate tension, and on occasion being the curve ball to ramp up tension.
Memes can be hilarious. What isn't hilarious is when movie studios or television producers try to inject memes into films. It doesn't work like that. Comedy is in a weird place because the internet's absurdist humor has shifted what we find funny (and arguably does a better job of it).
You are right. Internet gave us comedy in a universal way and I think by realizing we share the same sense of humour around the world it brought joy into our lives. Oh and porn, definitely more porn.
@@jamieohjamie movies usually come out 3 years after the script is written, so the meme will absolutely be dead by the time the movie comes out. The only way to make it work would be to include memes that have been relevant for years. For example, the surprised pikachu meme could have been very organically used in detective pikachu or the anime without feeling cringy.
Before the video starts I don’t think comedy is dead Just people who think they are funny but who actually aren’t funny are left to write the scripts rather than people who are actually funny
cringe comedy needs a break. It was good for awhile, but now it seems like thats all we have left. Some cringe is fine, but the whole movie being that way just gets gross or something. Its no longer clever.
@@MatthewSmith-zo9st Agreed. There are a few things that Hollywood seems to think of as "automatically funny": 1.repetition 2.irritating people 3.bodily functions 4.idiocy You still need to put a little effort in to make these things funny. But they don't. They just march Will Farell or someone out and have him act like a child, or have a character fart loudly, and call it a day.
Comedy is just too risky in an era where a single complaint can destroy someone, people are too damn scared to tell jokes so they play it hyper-safe and steer clear of anything that might elicit even a chuckle just to be certain.
I agree, but because it's based on a comic book character it ends up being consider more in the "comic book movie" genre rather than a straight up comedy film
Got me wondering as well. Those were extremly succesfull movies - I know the industry might have filed them under "comicbook adaptation" but with the idea of comedy as a mode, rather than a genre, Wisecrack here could have used this as an excellent example for modern comedy.
The REALLY ABSURD THING, is that this is coming from a generation who is increasingly telling itself (and it's members) what to laugh at, what NOT to laugh at, AND THEN ACCUSING and demonizing ITSELF (and it's members), of laughing or not laughing!!!
I hope you've seen it by now because its fucking hilarious. 😂 I was laughing almost the entire time. I saw it in theaters and rented it on redbox because it was that good I wanted to watch it again.
Blame the script (or lack thereof) and director, not the actor. I mean, Thor Ragnarok was lit as hell because of Taika Waititi. Compare that to the "okay" Thor or often labeled "worst-MCU-movie" Thor the Dark World". They all have Chris Hemsworth. But it's only one movie people bother to remember. And that's for a good reason.
Thor Ragnarok was the best comedy I've seen in years, and I'd go as far as to say that it was more of a comedy than an action movie, or even a Marvel movie. I feel like it's less of the genre dying or something like that, but a transition to having to actually be funny now in a new way. Sure some of the older movies were funny, but do you know whats not funny? Seeing modern versions of old formulas regurgitated into the same shit but with some hip new slang thrown in. No one wants a 2019/2020 version of Dumb and Dumber cos it would be ... well dumb. Take directors like Taika Waititi and I'll show you the future of comedy. Nothing to worry about I say. Funny will find a way and if shows are the way to get comedy than so be it. I don't need a collection of 50 Adam Sandler movies coming out a year to feel like I have options for something 'funny' to watch.
He touched on how comedy is cultural, but I'm curious why he didn't touch on how our tastes have changed. Slapstick is super popular on the international market. Tom and Jerry is still very portable internationally. Mr. Bean is also very popular on the international stage. Why haven't those expressions of comedy made their way into international movies? I think the short answer is that we as people of OECD countries don't laugh at it anymore. But I couldn't tell you why.
To be honest, the last one to me is much worse. It's like bother trying too hard to be edgy, or just being lazy and doing outrageous things in order to get an reaction.
I think it’s also because our society has started to fall in love with horror and action which is more relatable to our generations mood. It could also be that Comedy is more dark humor in dank memes and vines.
Imagine looking at American society and thinking that people telling other people how to exist is the problem and not literally every other issue threatening this county and the world.
@@crudboy12 Imagine looking at America and thinking that it isn't fucked. School shootings, several mass shootings per day, rise of ethnic nationalism.. right now, the biggest threat to the US is itself.
Oh, I forgot to mention the skyrocketing prices for health insurance. That's not fun, perhaps a socialist system where taxes help pay for healthcare for all would be better?
@@AlanWattResistance Oh yeah, that too. Though I wouldn't refer to them as leftists because not everyone who's on the left also thinks like that, I'd just call them the PC crowd.
Next idea for Wisecrack: Is the world actually an "ever-larger dumpster fire", or is our access to a 24/7 stream of news (fake or otherwise) instilling us with a false sense of fear?
Yes, but money speaks, and the masses have expressed their disinterest in comedic films this year. Additionally, there are distinct elements to comedy, meaning it can be judged on at least semi-objective grounds. Subverting expectations is a big aspect of most good comedic films, for instance.
I mean a good joke still follows a simple framework, what's subjective is what makes the individual laugh, a good joke makes the majority laugh for various reasons
Part of the problem with modern comedy is that the comedy writers are writing for their friends and not the audience (HBO's Barry)and when they do write for the audience it is insultingly bad (Big Bang Theory). Mel Brooks, Charlie Chaplin, Johny Carson, etc used to write great comedy that appealed to the masses without talking down to them.
When you think about it, comedy as a mode is a kind of earthquake in cultural history. It was after, one of the first two genres to be defined as such by Aristotle, with tragedy, in ancient Greece.
Great video, as always, however, I'm not sure if I agree this time... I think that MCU superheroe movies and 'pop' movies in general are trying to be like "supermarkets" so you can find whatever you want, no matter what you are looking for... Do you want comedy?, take some comedy, do you want drama? take some drama, do you want action? here, some action... maybe even romance and terror if it fits. I mean, cramming togheter all these elements doesnt seem to be the best option to build deep experiences but that's not the goal, they're just trying to appeal a broader audience, to sell more tickets.
Also, unlike most genres, comedy has become so much more niche and specific in the rise of social media. There's become so many different categories/styles of humor, that still aren't remotely mainstream, that Hollywood has a hard time finding the comedy style that is broad enough to be enjoyed by the most people possible, yet specific enough that its not considered too bland. In the past, this would work incredibly, but now with our generation on the internet, and the ability to find the *exact* style of humor you like, we no longer have to settle for the "safe" Hollywood comedy film.
Bill Murray is an American goddamn hero and we will FIGHT YOU for him... *smashes beer bottle and pulls USA-mandatory american flag pistol* COME OOONNN!!!1!
Really got excited when I saw your reference to the Chilean version of The Office (we actually have 2). It's very rare to see any mention of us outside of our own country, so I am VERY appreciative when I see short mentions of us on TH-cam. Thanks guys!
6:27 I didnt laugh at either of those. Comedy is by far the most subjective genre, but those moments arent close to "I fart in your general direction. You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries."
I'm writing my first screenplay (Drama/comedy). You released this analysis at the perfect time. I'm definitely going to look into comedy as mode. I want to make sure my screenplay is as appealing as possible, and it seems sticking comedy on it could hurt it. Thanks Wisecrack Team, Peace.
I really miss parody movies. On the other hand movies are so shallow and pedantic now, there's nothing to laugh about them, just stupid scripts and bad acting.
cause life has become a parody , that's why ... the "espcapism" is gone , even in video games. It's like the games and tv shows had turn in to a mirror to life itself whie life has truned into a fucked up parody of it's own ....
This is a quality video. However, I do need to add that Booksmart is one of the best movies of the year and Long Shot was also really good. Last year, Blockers and Tag were both solid, too. So it isn't that good comedy movies aren't being made (look at Jojo Rabbit next month) but just that they aren't making box office like they used to. I think it may be a little reductionistic to think of comedy as mainly a mode, when it functions more as genre on TV. That seems like an over-extrapolation of Marvel principles to the rest of the industry. But you're right to see comedy changing, just like Apatow turned the Rob Reiner/ Nora Ephron era Rom-com into the "raunch com" of the 2000s. Still romantic comedy, just in a new way. I'm going to put the blame for "death of comedy movies" on the movie going public, because anyone with Netflix and Prime knows that good comedy movies are still being made frequently.
I can tell you in a single sentence why comedy is dead. Generational Zeitgeist switched from "Be happy, laugh and chase your dreams!" to "I want to kill myself because I am an edgy zoomer.".
i really love classic old vintage movies from 30s to 70s. I was born in 1985 so i mainly grew up with 80s, 90s and little bit of early 00s movies and i really enjoyed going to the cinema. it was a very memorable and special fun experience because the movies were awesome and original with great scripts.
am I the only one that thought Get Out was boring, not scary, not funny, and basically just Invasion of the Body Snatchers? I mean seriously, what's the a peele of it?
Heh heh But that was just for the joke right? My only complaint was that it lacked the brutality in it’s final sequence that it’s source material (Last House on the Left), which, in retrospect, is a bad complaint
@@sammosaurusrex yeah, but I didn't find any part of it funny. Even the parts this guy was pointing out as funny weren't. At no point was I scared or laughing. I just sat there with my friend repeating, "why?"
kenthehobo He has always been known to not shy away from low-brow forms of comedic engagement. This is much like some of his fellow SNL cast-members, including the great Adam Sandler. They can both express great instances of comedy - such as their success on SNL and an occasional movie or comedy routine - and fall dangerously close to spontaneous irrelevance through disparate cash-grabs - most notably their respective comedy films aimed at appealing to either teen, family or otherwise immature audiences.
Just because there funny moments in a action or horror movie doesnt mean its a "comedy". Youll never be on the floor laughing at the avengers I promise you, you won't. But if you watch like classic jim carrey movies or seth rogens whatever, THOSE are comedies. THose are special :3
I concur with your judgement, Omega. Stand-up comedy, while being slowly degraded by social justice causes and general Leftist intolerance, is still an active genre, populated by the likes of the great Bill Burr, Norm, Dave Chapelle, and a handful of others. It’s a dying breed, I must say: A beautiful and entertaining form being subverted by poorly formed, politically slanted, malicious, one-sided and divisive mediums of comedic expression.
Amazing analysis. This helps me explains what I experience when I watch an "unfunny comedy" movie: some unseasoned writers abuse the mode in an attempt to make the genre shift to "comedy", which feels artificial and suspiciously underhanded (because of the blatant "for profit" nature of the late cinematic venture). As a result the execution of jokes suffer, turning what should be laughing rich scenes into eye rolling fests. So, writers to be, please stop trying so hard to make comedy gold; it's not working. Better take inspiration on f-word precision strikes. Allow a good rhythm of jokes instead of trying to be 99% funny through your film~ |3
I didn't know this was such a widespread problem. I avoid comedic films because they are too hit or miss for me to make the time and financial commitment, especially since I don't go to theaters as much.
Making a good comedy that attracts a large audience is very hard to do. That is partly because humor very personal. I like dark humor that goes over the top. Stuff like The Interview, Very Bad Things Hot Fuzz or Team America. Other like parodies, romcoms or dirty comedies. It's also culturally bound and age related. I think that's why I think that There Is Something About Mary is one of the best comedies ever made. It's timeless situational humor, and it's also an over the top romcom with dirty jokes.
I miss raunchy teen comedies especially. Another risky business, Superbad or fast times is needed now more than ever. Has this died because of cancel culture?
Comedy is also a minefield these days, I'm sure plenty of producers see it as a risk assessment when it's so easy to trigger cancel culture with a single missed joke or line.
I like Jared, but is always good to see another face. Gives Wisecrack fans a feeling that this channel is made by a group, not an individual, and all of then, as much as Jared, works hard to give us a nice entreteniment.
Dave Chappelle just dropped one of the best standup specials I've seen in a LONG time and Bill Burr is definitely dropping some heat 3 days from now. Comedy ain't on its last leg by any means.
Comedy isn't dead, Hollywood is just extremely concentrated, and concentrated markets don't suit comedies very well. Disney is a buyout from becoming a Megacorporation. Sony and Warner Bros are barely competitors. The Writers Guild has been taken over by Private Equity. A lot of the great comedies like Back To the Future are extremely weird. They're not intuitively something you think will sell. The Business Suits HATE that. They want something they can put to a formula, but sticking to a formula kills creativity.
When it comes to the comedy in the MCU, I think it also works because to put it simply, a person needs a break, even if it can only be found in making a quip about something. Humor is a well-known coping mechanism. The heroes are basically acting as soldiers and anyone who has been in that kind of job, knows there are times you have to laugh to keep from crying. There's also the ER doctor mindset. Would you rather get treated by a doctor who keeps it together, saves your life, but later makes a tasteless joke when talking about it with his buddies or do you want to be treated by someone who takes one look at you and falls to pieces?
@The Catmother lol, no, just no. I couldn't name one French comedian, video, movie, standup, or TV show if I sat down and tried. Where did you come up with the idea that the French were funny? Only a French person would say this.
I stopped watching "comedy" over a decade ago. Used to love stand-up, south park, etc... but eventually just reached a point where deciding "hmmm... I'd like to laugh right now. I think I'll put on a show/movie that's engineered to extract this particular emotion from me" made me feel extremely empty. Especially when most of the movies attempting to do this were becoming increasingly cringe-inducing, like Will Ferrell's output. Which is ironic, because he was one of my favorite parts of SNL way back in the day. Just can't do it anymore. I'd much rather be caught off guard by a really good joke in a movie that's not explicitly comedy.
The the broad strokes are that movies are being less defined by Genre and more defined by Tropes? Makes sense to me. Once you get used to the trappings of a system or genre, it becomes easier to isolate the individual parts and modularize them to be plugged in wherever and to whatever they may be needed. It's what lead to Deconstructions of genres, and it's what's currently leading us through the deconstruction, subversions, and inversions of individual tropes.
Mac: But the old comedy are cheeky and fun. Thorny: Yeah, today comedy are cruel and tragic. Foster: Which wouldn't make them not comedy at all, really. Mac: [Irish voice] Evil comedy!
Let me sum up his verbal gymnastics with, comedy is subjective and people are always offended. Just see September 2019 "Sticks and Stones" by Dave Chappell.
Between Good Boys and Jojo Rabbit, I am hoping for a resurgence of riskier comedies. Comedies have to find a way to keep their edge to really work. The problem is that the main people putting comedies out this day just aren’t that funny or are lazy; See Will Ferrell, Adam Sandler and Melissa McCarthy.
@@347tester Always Sunny? Yeah obviously, it's a great show, but a grand majority of the humor comes from "saying stupid shit" and i'd argue Always Sunny did it much better than Friends ever did or could.
@@DeadDinosaur I feel like Friends and Sunny aren't that comparable, not even close. Besides, Sunny 13th, although good, was probably the weakest out of the series
Well, I love comedies. But I don’t need to watch them at the movies, unless they’re something really special. I don’t think they’re dead. I think with so many good movies and expensive movie tickets, people rather watch a movie that is enhanced by the cinema experience whereas most comedies don’t warrant a visit to the theaters. Also, there haven’t been a lot of comedies in recent years. Make better comedies and shit on the international “compatibility”. The comedies from the 80s and 90s were universally funny to people around the world. Luckily super hero movies sometimes are really funny like Thor, Ant-Man or MIB.
Nightmare on Elm Street was a horror comedy as was Friday the 13th and Black Christmas and a ton of other movies, the point is that, YES, comedy is more mode than genre, because most people appreciate a good chuckle at any given point of any film of any genre.
I miss comedies with the OGs. Thats why I still go back ad watch. They are always a moment that strikes something funny in me. They never get old or tired because they are set in their own universe, not shared with competing genres really. At least thats how I feel. I miss john candy movies. Loads of the other old school comics too.
It works, but the actor _must_ be willing to _bleed_ in it. Like, literally bleed. Jackie Chan's old movies works because the actors all willing to bleed and hurt in their movies. The bloopers were the proof of them.
I think these producers are also not looking into what kind of comedies people actually enjoy. The trend has been going away from strict comedies and more to mashups of genres like Bojack Horseman with it's goofy jokes but realistic and disturbed characters. Even Parasite had a lot of comedic elements that really worked and I definitely laughed more watching it then any Will Ferell movie. People are just tired of lazy comedies that have nothing to say about reality or it's subject matter.
Counterpoint; Those scenes were always going to age badly, regardless of political correctness. More than political correctness, I'm annoyed by comedians who were being facetious at the time, but aren't when they decry political correctness. Like, George Carlin had a bit about euphemisms. When he made that bit, it was insightful, because obviously, euphemisms have their place, while also going too far in many places. But now, people cite that bit about euphemisms like it's the gospel and it's just not fucking funny anymore. TLDR; I'd argue that political correctness is just people being annoyed by comedians' standup routines being taken too seriously and endlessly cited, killing the original point. Comedy often searches for the line and crosses it; that is a way to date the routine. The line has moved and nobody should apologize for humor that's dated.
@@dvklaveren if a comedian makes a joke about how black dads leave their kids, his career will be ruined. Even if the joke was supposed to be making fun of how weird the stereotype is. Look at dave chappelle, the critics literally agree that the reason for their bad reviews are because he offended them on rotten tomatoes.
There’s also a problem that as studios get less willing to take risks, comedy films have gotten lazier and more formulaic. And while that’s an issue with any genre, it absolutely kills comedy because half of what makes something funny is it being unexpected or clever in a way you couldn’t have thought of.
My buddies in college and I even made up a game where we’d pitch lazy comedy films to each other where it was always “(Actor/Actress) and (Jason Bateman/Melissa McCarthy/Kevin Hart) are (relationship) and have to go to (place) because of (misunderstanding).”
Yea seriously. The more disney takes over, the more other studios will attempt to copy their formulas with minimal risks
Are you sure it isn't because people are more aware than ever about who is sitting on the throne of cultural leadership and they just don't find old jokes funny anymore? Let's imagine that someone makes a movie about the 3 stooges today, would that be funny? Not really. They tried. The three stooges would not work because in the past they were a joke/parody about the real people of high society and how ridiculous they were. Another example is the Monty Python movies who made jokes about all the ridiculousness of their own high society.
Today, the Internet took over that throne and the solution seems simple enough: make jokes about the new person that sits on the throne with the big crown.... buuuut, now studios don't want to carry that label, they are too afraid of putting their names on movies that can be judged harshly 10 years from now. And that is self-censorship,
Suffice it say this: maybe people aren't interested anymore because the jokes don't make sense to them anymore because you have nothing to compare them too. You can watch a slapstick movie today and wonder: why are these people hitting themselves when you can go to jail for that? You can't watch a romcom because people are thinking "ah, they had one argument, well they are wrong for each other"?
Comedy is the supposed to be funny because it jokes about everything that's popular, powerful or dumb. And today, it's just not allowed to joke about those things.
@E Anyone who has the power to take away your livelihood by simply blacklisting you from the culture is basically sitting on a throne and deciding what the culture is or who gets to be in it.
@E As long as you leave room for context, and if you don't just block people from the industry I am okay with that. One example I can think of is that movie with Martin Lawrence where he plays a wannabe carjacker and gets stopped by a stereotypical cop who then tries to defend him from a bee because Martin's character is allergic to them, he gets filmed and gets charged for a racial crime because he is only seen swinging at Martin's direction.
Context is what makes the difference between joke and crime.
@@danhair There's only one problem with this thesis: It would indicate that someone watching the old films wouldn't find them funny. _Duck Soup, Batman_ '66, and _Airplane!_ are all still widely regarded as hilarious. "Who's on First?" in all its wonderful permutations is probably the best known comedy sketch on the planet, and a well-done rendition is still sure to get applause.
The idea that comedy is always and everywhere about power dynamics is... not worth discussing, except to note that it's hilariously wrong; "Who's on First?" isn't a power dynamic; it's a guy who can't understand he's confusing and the guy who is confused, but can't explain how, while both are crystal clear to the audience.
This entire decade has been dry for comedy films. The 2000's had like 50 iconic comedy films (including Superbad, Tropic Thunder, The Hangover), but this entire 2010's decade maybe only has like 5 iconic comedies. I'd say some of the best two are in the Jump Street series.
I literally just watched your video on this!
@@laneythelame yeah same
I am scraping the corners of my brain 🤔 this is usually my lane. I think you may just be right. I also can’t help but think, “I know I can think of more than 5?”. Then I actually can’t. This is bad.
I watched you're video too
The 2010s: Ted, 21 & 22 Jump street, Bridesmaids, The Other Guys, Daddys home, Horrible Bosses, Easy A, Hot Tube Time Machine, The wolf of wall street, Get Him to the Greek, Deadpool, Paul, About time, Game night, 50/50, Macgruber, The Green Hornet, Booksmart, Neighbors, Were the millers, Blockers.....
The 2020s:😐
Bender: "Comedy's a dead art form. Now tragedy, that's funny!"
Darwin Xavier studios: inserting laugh tracks into a documentary about 911
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@@theanchhaybun6077 But if you tried to elicit organic laughter for a doc about 9/11, even today, it be all "Too soon, you're a fucking monster". Which is funny in itself. Because here in the UK, we were joking about how it was "the best three dart finish we'd ever seen" and getting lots of laughs. And this was actually on the day as a response to watching the New York footage, then hearing another plane had hit the Pentagon.
Now, while I have to say that crashing planes into skyscrapers and killing thousands of people isn't funny, the jokes that come from such events, *can* be funny. Hideously inappropriate jokes about horrific things are how we, as a species begin to heal from such culturally impacting events. So yes, I laughed. And I'd laugh again tomorrow. Comedy doesn't care about your feelings. Every time comedy is forced to consider people's feelings, the horror wins. If we can't laugh at the horror, we are doomed to carry it around forever, and no-one's got time or energy for that. Except maybe the Christians. Just try cracking a 'Jesus was on the Cross' joke at Church if you don't believe me. They no longer burn you for that shit, but some of them wish they could. *That's* what we're essentially dealing with.
And thats why comedy is dead and nobody laughs. This is why I like 1900s comedy
"Brave new world of horror comedies..." Umm...Beetlejuice, Ghostbusters, An American Werewolf in London, Gremlins, etc? Anyone?
Shaun of the Dead? Evil Dead 1&2? Army of Darkness? Dead Alive? The Frighteners? Critters 1&2? Bad Taste?
The list can keep goin for sure. Comedic Horror has always been my favorite genre/“mode”, lol. 🤘
He meant as a renaissance of sorts of horror comedies. There are very few nowadays, and even fewer that are actually good.
Those are not at all in the same tone whatsoever. Those are full-blown comedies with a horror theme. Get Out was a horror movie with some jokes lol.
Fish Abuser Ok then. The Lighthouse. Full blown horror. And fart jokes. And drunk hijinks. Perfect example of the tone. 🤘
Abbott and Costello meet the Monster... Sorry but Abbott and Costello did horror comedy decades before all the examples you provide.
Thor Ragnarok was basically a comedy and that made bank
So did deadpool
Because it’s marvel
Zyle Rayner Reviews, General Opinion of critics and fans and box office numbers kinda suggest the opposite.
Now it just comes off as forced jokes in what should be serious aspects of the movie, Exhibit A: Far from Home
its listed as comedy on netflix
When's thug notes coming back? Or some sort of equivalent. Great video btw!
THIS
It’s not that comedy is dying, it’s that nobody in Hollywood is funny anymore. They have the step by step formula for what comedy should be and how it should work, but they don’t have the writing/acting/natural charisma/characterization/personality/relatability/character chemistry/heart/spirit/soul to back it up or pull it off. It’s hollow, sad, and try’s too hard, like that one annoying kid in middle school that’s always making unfunny jokes and begging people to laugh with him, because he thinks that will make him popular. Most of it is unfunny, hard to watch, out dated before it even comes out, and just makes you sad to see your favorite actor/characters be forced to parade around like puppets on screen force to follow some blood money script written by random corporate marketing executives.
Tl;dr- Real comedy is timeless and worth being seen by everyone, regardless of arbitrary demographics. Hollywood has mostly forgotten this in favor of fart jokes, lowest common denominator marketing, and desperately begging audiences to find them funny. It’s gross.
nepotism at critical mass
Good points, I'd add that Hollywood is too afraid to push any boundaries. Comedy should be unrestricted, yet in the past several years comedies have pandered to woke ideologies, severely limiting what can be joked about.
This right here is a very accurate assessment
"My mother died... I'm celebrating." I laughed my ass off when Arthur Fleck said this in Joker. That whole scene is dark comedy gold. Very unexpected was probably the main reason why it was hilarious to me.
I agree. Him jumpscaring the midget after killing the guy that got him fired, the midget not being able to reach the door, Joker kissing him o on the forehead after commiting a brutal crime...
13:49 another objection. Peele isn't making horror comedy. It's just horror. Horror comedy would be terrifying as well as comedic. Comedic moments in horror helps by making the situation more believable, either by establishing characters or connections, or levitate tension, and on occasion being the curve ball to ramp up tension.
Exactly. Horror comedy is what Sam Raimi does so well - Evil Dead series, and Drag Me to Hell.
The Ghost and Mr chicken, Ernest scared stupid, Young Frankenstein.
@Django Fett only Young Frankenstein. Ghost and Mr chicken and Ernest scared stupid are Horror comedy.
"horror comedy" is just easier to say than "a movie aligned within the horror genre with comedic modes."
from the recent one, how about IT (chapter I at least) ?
they trying to be funny and scary sometimes at the same bit...
horror-comedy is a thing.
6:03
"Quality parodies like Scary Movie"
>shows the worst one in the series
Honestly I feel like the internet has injected so much comedy into our daily lives that we don't need to go out to see one.
Memes can be hilarious. What isn't hilarious is when movie studios or television producers try to inject memes into films. It doesn't work like that.
Comedy is in a weird place because the internet's absurdist humor has shifted what we find funny (and arguably does a better job of it).
That's true
You are right. Internet gave us comedy in a universal way and I think by realizing we share the same sense of humour around the world it brought joy into our lives. Oh and porn, definitely more porn.
@@jamieohjamie Exactly!
@@jamieohjamie movies usually come out 3 years after the script is written, so the meme will absolutely be dead by the time the movie comes out. The only way to make it work would be to include memes that have been relevant for years. For example, the surprised pikachu meme could have been very organically used in detective pikachu or the anime without feeling cringy.
I just got back from IT Chapter Two so don't tell me Comedy's dying
That was a weird sequel to _The IT crowd._ /s :-)
Comedy is dying.
yea i also laughed at how bad it was
Before the video starts
I don’t think comedy is dead
Just people who think they are funny but who actually aren’t funny are left to write the scripts rather than people who are actually funny
cringe comedy needs a break. It was good for awhile, but now it seems like thats all we have left. Some cringe is fine, but the whole movie being that way just gets gross or something. Its no longer clever.
@@MatthewSmith-zo9st Agreed. There are a few things that Hollywood seems to think of as "automatically funny": 1.repetition 2.irritating people 3.bodily functions 4.idiocy
You still need to put a little effort in to make these things funny. But they don't. They just march Will Farell or someone out and have him act like a child, or have a character fart loudly, and call it a day.
This is a great tie-in to the point the video makes about most comedic writers moving to television.
What modern comedy even has a script anymore?
They're just SNL comedians improving bad stand up at each other. Scene and character be damned.
Comedy is just too risky in an era where a single complaint can destroy someone, people are too damn scared to tell jokes so they play it hyper-safe and steer clear of anything that might elicit even a chuckle just to be certain.
Thanks Not Jared. This is an interesting subject.
Ya, when I was young it seemed like at least half of TV shows and movies were comedies. Now I can’t even remember what the last comedy I saw was
Comedy is tragedy plus time. It'll never die.
Did he just say "Quality parodies like Scary Movie"?
Yeah. The first three were nice. The last one was shit.
And they said comedy was dead
first one is great
One was good , Two was memorable at least to me
The first was okay. Easy jokes though.
No mention of Deadpool? It's like 90% comedy.
I agree, but because it's based on a comic book character it ends up being consider more in the "comic book movie" genre rather than a straight up comedy film
Got me wondering as well. Those were extremly succesfull movies - I know the industry might have filed them under "comicbook adaptation" but with the idea of comedy as a mode, rather than a genre, Wisecrack here could have used this as an excellent example for modern comedy.
Superhero movies are different they get comic nerds not just comedy nerds.
its clickbait man, you can talk about anything for 10 minutes for some rent
That's exactly what I thought
When every joke will send a virtual mob after you it's too risky to make a comedy.
I prefer Sam Raimis horror-comedy in the Evil Dead
@Cult Mechanicus I meant the trilogy as a whole
Think Mr. Peele might dip his toe into it? (Not just having funny moments in a horror movie, but having both on screen at the same time.)
iknowyou23 have you seen Peter Jackson’s early stuff? Same kinda splatter comedy deal.
Slapstick horror
@@DrGamelove I have not, I'll deffinately look into it though
The REALLY ABSURD THING, is that this is coming from a generation who is increasingly telling itself (and it's members) what to laugh at, what NOT to laugh at, AND THEN ACCUSING and demonizing ITSELF (and it's members), of laughing or not laughing!!!
It took me like 3 minutes to realize this isn’t Jared
i didn’t realize til i saw this comment 😭 how????
Yeah they are trying to sound like him so hard that it seems stupid sometimes
@Marco Velázquez I know what you mean man, people who don't look like me all look alike
I can't wait to see Jojo Rabbit though, I always laugh my ass off watching Taika Waititi comedies
I hope you've seen it by now because its fucking hilarious. 😂 I was laughing almost the entire time. I saw it in theaters and rented it on redbox because it was that good I wanted to watch it again.
@@---nobody--- yeah it was pretty good
I love Chris Hemsworth , but in Men In Black he tried too hard to be funny.
They were literally writing the script while filming. The entire cast did the best they could with the situation
I didn't laugh once during watching. It's not the actors, it's the writing.
Your right - if the script is not that good to begin with, then most actors will struggle.
Blame the script (or lack thereof) and director, not the actor.
I mean, Thor Ragnarok was lit as hell because of Taika Waititi.
Compare that to the "okay" Thor or often labeled "worst-MCU-movie" Thor the Dark World".
They all have Chris Hemsworth. But it's only one movie people bother to remember. And that's for a good reason.
But the actor has the choice to do the movie or not? Look at Leonardo DiCaprio - he always seems to work with the right directors and movies.
Thor Ragnarok was the best comedy I've seen in years, and I'd go as far as to say that it was more of a comedy than an action movie, or even a Marvel movie. I feel like it's less of the genre dying or something like that, but a transition to having to actually be funny now in a new way.
Sure some of the older movies were funny, but do you know whats not funny? Seeing modern versions of old formulas regurgitated into the same shit but with some hip new slang thrown in.
No one wants a 2019/2020 version of Dumb and Dumber cos it would be ... well dumb. Take directors like Taika Waititi and I'll show you the future of comedy. Nothing to worry about I say. Funny will find a way and if shows are the way to get comedy than so be it. I don't need a collection of 50 Adam Sandler movies coming out a year to feel like I have options for something 'funny' to watch.
Taika Waititi's Jojo Rabbit has gotten some very favourable early reviews. I think it might actually be a very good film.
@@NaumRusomarov it is very good indeed, check it out, will be a classic
He touched on how comedy is cultural, but I'm curious why he didn't touch on how our tastes have changed. Slapstick is super popular on the international market. Tom and Jerry is still very portable internationally. Mr. Bean is also very popular on the international stage. Why haven't those expressions of comedy made their way into international movies?
I think the short answer is that we as people of OECD countries don't laugh at it anymore. But I couldn't tell you why.
yeah Taika Waititi's pretty funny I always go to see his new movies, Book Smart and Palm Springs were actually pretty good as well
Talks about comedies, using Western as reference...doesn't use Blazing Saddles 😕
Jokes on you My life is a joke so I dont need to watch comedy movies
Most folk's lives are horrors so they don't need that either.
Ether people are to afraid to say something controversial or they try to hard to be outrageous and come off as dumb
Justin Wickliffe too* hard
Social justice killed comedy, but the guy in this video completely avoids this. Which shows me that he himself is a delicate social justice warrior.
To be honest, the last one to me is much worse.
It's like bother trying too hard to be edgy, or just being lazy and doing outrageous things in order to get an reaction.
jonhy vonbee no haha
@@VMohdude- ikr?
I think it’s also because our society has started to fall in love with horror and action which is more relatable to our generations mood. It could also be that Comedy is more dark humor in dank memes and vines.
Most dank memes and vines are shite though... And few people remember any of them after a year or two.
And society has become sensitive af.
The safe space generation ruined comedy.
American society is about to lash out at itself.
Constantly telling people how to exist usually ends in pushback.
Imagine looking at American society and thinking that people telling other people how to exist is the problem and not literally every other issue threatening this county and the world.
@@crudboy12 Imagine looking at America and thinking that it isn't fucked. School shootings, several mass shootings per day, rise of ethnic nationalism.. right now, the biggest threat to the US is itself.
Oh, I forgot to mention the skyrocketing prices for health insurance. That's not fun, perhaps a socialist system where taxes help pay for healthcare for all would be better?
@@clocked0 You forgot the crazy Leftists who think everything is sexist and racist.
@@AlanWattResistance Oh yeah, that too. Though I wouldn't refer to them as leftists because not everyone who's on the left also thinks like that, I'd just call them the PC crowd.
Next idea for Wisecrack: Is the world actually an "ever-larger dumpster fire", or is our access to a 24/7 stream of news (fake or otherwise) instilling us with a false sense of fear?
Tizen
Oooh, yes!! Dude, I love this question. This would make for a great video!
Total dumpster fire.
We're in the middle of a pandemic...
The problem is that comedy is highly highly subjective, what I find funny could be different than what the next guy finds funny.
Some people have better senses of humor than others and appreciate wit and comedy more than others also.
Yes, but money speaks, and the masses have expressed their disinterest in comedic films this year. Additionally, there are distinct elements to comedy, meaning it can be judged on at least semi-objective grounds. Subverting expectations is a big aspect of most good comedic films, for instance.
I mean a good joke still follows a simple framework, what's subjective is what makes the individual laugh, a good joke makes the majority laugh for various reasons
Part of the problem with modern comedy is that the comedy writers are writing for their friends and not the audience (HBO's Barry)and when they do write for the audience it is insultingly bad (Big Bang Theory).
Mel Brooks, Charlie Chaplin, Johny Carson, etc used to write great comedy that appealed to the masses without talking down to them.
Vince Lestrade So would you agree that The Last Jedi was a comedy then?
“Wicked tiger! Looks proud.” Lmfao 🤣
Man... these were rough examples of “comedies”, but you’ve made a great point about the writer’s strike and TV dominance of current comedies.
When you think about it, comedy as a mode is a kind of earthquake in cultural history. It was after, one of the first two genres to be defined as such by Aristotle, with tragedy, in ancient Greece.
The lGREAT comedy The Nice Guys got way too little attention.
True
That, The Death of Stalin, and The World's End I can say are the only comedies in the 2010s I think I really enjoyed.
Great video, as always, however, I'm not sure if I agree this time... I think that MCU superheroe movies and 'pop' movies in general are trying to be like "supermarkets" so you can find whatever you want, no matter what you are looking for... Do you want comedy?, take some comedy, do you want drama? take some drama, do you want action? here, some action... maybe even romance and terror if it fits.
I mean, cramming togheter all these elements doesnt seem to be the best option to build deep experiences but that's not the goal, they're just trying to appeal a broader audience, to sell more tickets.
Also, unlike most genres, comedy has become so much more niche and specific in the rise of social media. There's become so many different categories/styles of humor, that still aren't remotely mainstream, that Hollywood has a hard time finding the comedy style that is broad enough to be enjoyed by the most people possible, yet specific enough that its not considered too bland.
In the past, this would work incredibly, but now with our generation on the internet, and the ability to find the *exact* style of humor you like, we no longer have to settle for the "safe" Hollywood comedy film.
Thank you so much for the Leslie Nielson clip. A video on comedy would be incomplete without it.
man, as a bangladeshi, I also want some bill murray in our country.
Marufi Mahmud
Sorry but Bill Murray is a product of classical white america. You’ll never see another Bill Murray ever again.
Bill Murray is an American goddamn hero and we will FIGHT YOU for him... *smashes beer bottle and pulls USA-mandatory american flag pistol* COME OOONNN!!!1!
@@herrikudo don't forget your AR-15
Ki mama? Moja paiso?
Hingse hoe? Amar moto hote chao?😀
Aeimos ? Excuse me?
Really got excited when I saw your reference to the Chilean version of The Office (we actually have 2). It's very rare to see any mention of us outside of our own country, so I am VERY appreciative when I see short mentions of us on TH-cam. Thanks guys!
I would say Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle was a comedy with other bits and that did remarkably well.
It sure was more comedy than action. But a good example nonetheless.
6:27 I didnt laugh at either of those. Comedy is by far the most subjective genre, but those moments arent close to "I fart in your general direction. You mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries."
Comedy did not die, it’s just that at this point, normal everyday people are funnier than most of the films
So you're saying comedy didn't die, it's just at this point, due to circumstances, it is no longer around and when it is it's bad.. as in dead.
I'm writing my first screenplay (Drama/comedy). You released this analysis at the perfect time. I'm definitely going to look into comedy as mode. I want to make sure my screenplay is as appealing as possible, and it seems sticking comedy on it could hurt it. Thanks Wisecrack Team, Peace.
I really miss parody movies. On the other hand movies are so shallow and pedantic now, there's nothing to laugh about them, just stupid scripts and bad acting.
Sum also taking themselves way too serious
Pedantic? Sir, I think you've got the wrong word.
cause life has become a parody , that's why ... the "espcapism" is gone , even in video games. It's like the games and tv shows had turn in to a mirror to life itself whie life has truned into a fucked up parody of it's own ....
@@cw5948 It's for obvious parody purpose, Sir!
They made a parody of 50 shades and twilight... the originals were way funnier, involuntarily of course
I saw "Bad Neighbors" in theater, actually laughed.
Streaming "What We Do In the Shadows" was hilarious
This is a quality video. However, I do need to add that Booksmart is one of the best movies of the year and Long Shot was also really good. Last year, Blockers and Tag were both solid, too. So it isn't that good comedy movies aren't being made (look at Jojo Rabbit next month) but just that they aren't making box office like they used to. I think it may be a little reductionistic to think of comedy as mainly a mode, when it functions more as genre on TV. That seems like an over-extrapolation of Marvel principles to the rest of the industry. But you're right to see comedy changing, just like Apatow turned the Rob Reiner/ Nora Ephron era Rom-com into the "raunch com" of the 2000s. Still romantic comedy, just in a new way. I'm going to put the blame for "death of comedy movies" on the movie going public, because anyone with Netflix and Prime knows that good comedy movies are still being made frequently.
I can tell you in a single sentence why comedy is dead. Generational Zeitgeist switched from "Be happy, laugh and chase your dreams!" to "I want to kill myself because I am an edgy zoomer.".
"Michael here" vsauce just flashed in my vision.
Vsauce was just a mode.
i really love classic old vintage movies from 30s to 70s. I was born in 1985 so i mainly grew up with 80s, 90s and little bit of early 00s movies and i really enjoyed going to the cinema. it was a very memorable and special fun experience because the movies were awesome and original with great scripts.
ooooh. We can actually hear what's being said in the US Office.
Mallory Scott ThAtS wHaT sHe SaiD
You mean the other accent is beyond your range of hearing?
am I the only one that thought Get Out was boring, not scary, not funny, and basically just Invasion of the Body Snatchers? I mean seriously, what's the a peele of it?
Heh heh
But that was just for the joke right? My only complaint was that it lacked the brutality in it’s final sequence that it’s source material (Last House on the Left), which, in retrospect, is a bad complaint
@@sammosaurusrex yeah, but I didn't find any part of it funny. Even the parts this guy was pointing out as funny weren't. At no point was I scared or laughing. I just sat there with my friend repeating, "why?"
Jared really changed his look
If you want good comedy, just watch British parliament in action.
LMAOOOO
"UK's PM Johnson likens himself to The Incredible Hulk" is an actually headline lol
Or flip on FOX News.
@@scottk1525 yeah Greg Gutfeld show and The Five are good stuff
I've actually sat in the gallery of the English Parliament and watched it. Most of it is dull as hell, especially the important stuff
Well, Will Ferrell's career sure seems to be gasping for air
kenthehobo He has always been known to not shy away from low-brow forms of comedic engagement. This is much like some of his fellow SNL cast-members, including the great Adam Sandler. They can both express great instances of comedy - such as their success on SNL and an occasional movie or comedy routine - and fall dangerously close to spontaneous irrelevance through disparate cash-grabs - most notably their respective comedy films aimed at appealing to either teen, family or otherwise immature audiences.
He should join some band as a drummer.
Will Ferrell needs to go back to TV since he's no longer a box office draw anymore.
@@robertssilins6567 or at least provide some cow bell.
Reminds me of in Joker when the gun falls out of his pants at the children's hospital - I DIED laughing
What I can understand is that a genre is like a full meal and mode is like something included in the meal.
Just because there funny moments in a action or horror movie doesnt mean its a "comedy". Youll never be on the floor laughing at the avengers I promise you, you won't. But if you watch like classic jim carrey movies or seth rogens whatever, THOSE are comedies. THose are special :3
Comedy is not dead, just ask Dave Chappelle.
Every joke he told was old material so I'd say asking him would result in the answer "yes"
@bizkitgto what was an original bit?
I concur with your judgement, Omega. Stand-up comedy, while being slowly degraded by social justice causes and general Leftist intolerance, is still an active genre, populated by the likes of the great Bill Burr, Norm, Dave Chapelle, and a handful of others. It’s a dying breed, I must say: A beautiful and entertaining form being subverted by poorly formed, politically slanted, malicious, one-sided and divisive mediums of comedic expression.
@@creshiell What are your definitions of "old" and "original"
TheOmegaCloud you hateful bigot!!
No just kidding..... but it sad that this response is seen as goodness and virtue signaling
Amazing analysis. This helps me explains what I experience when I watch an "unfunny comedy" movie: some unseasoned writers abuse the mode in an attempt to make the genre shift to "comedy", which feels artificial and suspiciously underhanded (because of the blatant "for profit" nature of the late cinematic venture). As a result the execution of jokes suffer, turning what should be laughing rich scenes into eye rolling fests.
So, writers to be, please stop trying so hard to make comedy gold; it's not working. Better take inspiration on f-word precision strikes. Allow a good rhythm of jokes instead of trying to be 99% funny through your film~ |3
4:05
RIP speakers users at home with your families
I didn't know this was such a widespread problem. I avoid comedic films because they are too hit or miss for me to make the time and financial commitment, especially since I don't go to theaters as much.
Yea I haven’t seen any comedy movies in theaters. So yea I’d agree that at least the film industry for comedy is dead
Bad boys forever about to resurrect it I hope, then again it isn’t considered a comedy now is it?
Making a good comedy that attracts a large audience is very hard to do. That is partly because humor very personal. I like dark humor that goes over the top. Stuff like The Interview, Very Bad Things Hot Fuzz or Team America. Other like parodies, romcoms or dirty comedies. It's also culturally bound and age related. I think that's why I think that There Is Something About Mary is one of the best comedies ever made. It's timeless situational humor, and it's also an over the top romcom with dirty jokes.
Y e s it is we killed it we butchered comedy films
İm still here watchin edgar wright
kinda like you butchered your own comment with random 'spaces' and poor grammar and punctuation.
the fact that most of his movies are sleeper hits and he's got late recognition, yeah comedy is dead
@@joshmciver4847 or a coma
Josh McIver yea i know english isn't my first language and im working on fixing my problems
I miss raunchy teen comedies especially. Another risky business, Superbad or fast times is needed now more than ever. Has this died because of cancel culture?
"Art is dead."
-Bo Burnham
except it's not, in anyway
Are authentic youtube channels DEAD ? Or just swallowed by classic media production processes?
if you look for comedy on PG 13 films then yes
Comedy is also a minefield these days, I'm sure plenty of producers see it as a risk assessment when it's so easy to trigger cancel culture with a single missed joke or line.
Comedy is not dead only funny comedians. RIP George Carlin, Robin Williams, Rodney Dangerfield, Richard Prior, John Candy, Leslie Nielsen, etc. etc.
Dave Chapelle!
@@politereminder6284 Nah, he's just trying to be an edgelord. Its sad tho
@@mueffe1357 an edgelord how?
@@politereminder6284 www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/08/dave-chappelle-netflix-special-sticks-and-stones-review
@@mueffe1357 🙄
I like Jared, but is always good to see another face. Gives Wisecrack fans a feeling that this channel is made by a group, not an individual, and all of then, as much as Jared, works hard to give us a nice entreteniment.
Dave Chappelle just dropped one of the best standup specials I've seen in a LONG time and Bill Burr is definitely dropping some heat 3 days from now. Comedy ain't on its last leg by any means.
those guys aren't writing movies, though, sadly.
Comedy isn't dead, Hollywood is just extremely concentrated, and concentrated markets don't suit comedies very well. Disney is a buyout from becoming a Megacorporation. Sony and Warner Bros are barely competitors. The Writers Guild has been taken over by Private Equity. A lot of the great comedies like Back To the Future are extremely weird. They're not intuitively something you think will sell. The Business Suits HATE that. They want something they can put to a formula, but sticking to a formula kills creativity.
well, I'm a Bangladeshi and ironically my favourite Hollywood genre is comedy 🤔
man, as a bangladeshi, I also want some bill murray in our country.
@@casualkitty1381 👍
Bill Murray is hilarious! Although he is from a different era of comedy. Do you also like current comedy movies coming out today ?
When it comes to the comedy in the MCU, I think it also works because to put it simply, a person needs a break, even if it can only be found in making a quip about something. Humor is a well-known coping mechanism. The heroes are basically acting as soldiers and anyone who has been in that kind of job, knows there are times you have to laugh to keep from crying. There's also the ER doctor mindset. Would you rather get treated by a doctor who keeps it together, saves your life, but later makes a tasteless joke when talking about it with his buddies or do you want to be treated by someone who takes one look at you and falls to pieces?
Comedies suck now a days. It's fart jokes followed by douchbags telling you how great they are for making fart jokes.
what? where?
American comedies*
Go watch a stand up comedian, Dave Chappelle will make u laugh
@@vatop1304 Game grumps
@The Catmother lol, no, just no. I couldn't name one French comedian, video, movie, standup, or TV show if I sat down and tried. Where did you come up with the idea that the French were funny? Only a French person would say this.
I stopped watching "comedy" over a decade ago. Used to love stand-up, south park, etc... but eventually just reached a point where deciding "hmmm... I'd like to laugh right now. I think I'll put on a show/movie that's engineered to extract this particular emotion from me" made me feel extremely empty.
Especially when most of the movies attempting to do this were becoming increasingly cringe-inducing, like Will Ferrell's output. Which is ironic, because he was one of my favorite parts of SNL way back in the day. Just can't do it anymore. I'd much rather be caught off guard by a really good joke in a movie that's not explicitly comedy.
Comedey isn’t dead. I laughed my ass off to John Wick and Hobbes and Shaw
Bonus points to you for including The Irish Rovers! I actually saw them play live in 1981.
The Death of Stalin was the best comedy I've seen in a long time.
The the broad strokes are that movies are being less defined by Genre and more defined by Tropes? Makes sense to me. Once you get used to the trappings of a system or genre, it becomes easier to isolate the individual parts and modularize them to be plugged in wherever and to whatever they may be needed. It's what lead to Deconstructions of genres, and it's what's currently leading us through the deconstruction, subversions, and inversions of individual tropes.
To your point here, I hadn't heard of any of the comedies you listed in the beginning
Right?? Like only men in black and even then it look like shit imo
Mac: But the old comedy are cheeky and fun.
Thorny: Yeah, today comedy are cruel and tragic.
Foster: Which wouldn't make them not comedy at all, really.
Mac: [Irish voice] Evil comedy!
Now THAT'S comedy (well, it was funny to me, anyway)!
Let me sum up his verbal gymnastics with, comedy is subjective and people are always offended. Just see September 2019 "Sticks and Stones" by Dave Chappell.
Comedy is dying because people today are too sensitive to humor. You can't make fun of anything without having a lawsuit on your hands.
4:38 "to a Bangladeshi theater screen"
😂😂🇧🇩
Between Good Boys and Jojo Rabbit, I am hoping for a resurgence of riskier comedies. Comedies have to find a way to keep their edge to really work. The problem is that the main people putting comedies out this day just aren’t that funny or are lazy; See Will Ferrell, Adam Sandler and Melissa McCarthy.
It's he same bad jokes over and over. Also, saying stupid shit went out of fashion as funny when Friends was cancelled.
apparently not because Always Sunny In Philadelphia is just going onto it's 14th season and it's by far more edgy than Friends.
@@DeadDinosaur it's not edgy just to be edgy.
@@347tester Always Sunny? Yeah obviously, it's a great show, but a grand majority of the humor comes from "saying stupid shit" and i'd argue Always Sunny did it much better than Friends ever did or could.
@@DeadDinosaur I feel like Friends and Sunny aren't that comparable, not even close. Besides, Sunny 13th, although good, was probably the weakest out of the series
WISECRACK: 'Is comedy dead?'
ME: 'No.
There, I just saved you almost 15 boobless minutes.
Well, I love comedies. But I don’t need to watch them at the movies, unless they’re something really special.
I don’t think they’re dead. I think with so many good movies and expensive movie tickets, people rather watch a movie that is enhanced by the cinema experience whereas most comedies don’t warrant a visit to the theaters.
Also, there haven’t been a lot of comedies in recent years.
Make better comedies and shit on the international “compatibility”. The comedies from the 80s and 90s were universally funny to people around the world.
Luckily super hero movies sometimes are really funny like Thor, Ant-Man or MIB.
Comedies are annoying in the theater. Same with horror movies. I hate hearing other people laugh or scream.
J u n k y
Very true
Nightmare on Elm Street was a horror comedy
as was Friday the 13th and Black Christmas and a ton of other movies, the point is that, YES, comedy is more mode than genre, because most people appreciate a good chuckle at any given point of any film of any genre.
was Risky Business a comedy?
was When Harry Met Sally a comedy?
Yes, sort of. Risky Business was a teen sex comedy. Harry Met Sally was a romcom.
when harry met sally is my favorite movie and i don't remotely watch it for the laughs. i don't remember laughing at all during risky business.
I’d call them both comedies with reservations. Especially Risky Business, which dabbles in the tone of a dark thriller.
I miss comedies with the OGs. Thats why I still go back ad watch. They are always a moment that strikes something funny in me. They never get old or tired because they are set in their own universe, not shared with competing genres really. At least thats how I feel. I miss john candy movies. Loads of the other old school comics too.
Wish comedy would stay away from action movies. It so raerly works and usually just ruin the serious moments.
Is that my boi Brainstorm 👀
It works, but the actor _must_ be willing to _bleed_ in it. Like, literally bleed.
Jackie Chan's old movies works because the actors all willing to bleed and hurt in their movies. The bloopers were the proof of them.
I think these producers are also not looking into what kind of comedies people actually enjoy. The trend has been going away from strict comedies and more to mashups of genres like Bojack Horseman with it's goofy jokes but realistic and disturbed characters. Even Parasite had a lot of comedic elements that really worked and I definitely laughed more watching it then any Will Ferell movie. People are just tired of lazy comedies that have nothing to say about reality or it's subject matter.
Political correctness? Almost every classic has a scene that would be unacceptable nowadays. Blazing Saddles - every scene.
Counterpoint; Those scenes were always going to age badly, regardless of political correctness.
More than political correctness, I'm annoyed by comedians who were being facetious at the time, but aren't when they decry political correctness.
Like, George Carlin had a bit about euphemisms. When he made that bit, it was insightful, because obviously, euphemisms have their place, while also going too far in many places. But now, people cite that bit about euphemisms like it's the gospel and it's just not fucking funny anymore.
TLDR; I'd argue that political correctness is just people being annoyed by comedians' standup routines being taken too seriously and endlessly cited, killing the original point. Comedy often searches for the line and crosses it; that is a way to date the routine. The line has moved and nobody should apologize for humor that's dated.
@@dvklaveren if a comedian makes a joke about how black dads leave their kids, his career will be ruined. Even if the joke was supposed to be making fun of how weird the stereotype is. Look at dave chappelle, the critics literally agree that the reason for their bad reviews are because he offended them on rotten tomatoes.
Are we really gonna compare the comedy of Mel Brooks with some of these dumbasses tho?
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