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40mm is my favourite so I really hope we'll see more options across lens mounts that aren't horribly steppy focussing pancakes, but still pocketable - an inbetween step between traditional ultra low profile pancakes and standard size primes.
Great review again. But I miss something - please give us the wonderful Chris-and-Jordan interaction in front of the camera back that your older episodes made so unique.
Chris, what interests me is how your photography keeps improving. Better composing, more interesting subjects, you just keep getting better. You also are much more realistic about the performance of these lens then normal. I watch you guys because of who you are and also for the entertainment factor. Keep it up.
If Sony had these compact primes years ago I might not have picked Fuji. Aperture+ring+compact size+weather sealing is part of why I went for the x-pro2 and the 35+23 f2 fujicrons. These still look quite a bit larger than the Fuji equivalents but still quite a bit more compact than their earlier offerings. After watching this I’m still glad I went with Fuji but this is nice for Sony shooters who want better lenses for street photography.
I really love 40mm as a focal length, 50 is always just a little tight for a single lens for me and 35 gives me an odd feeling about proportions when shooting portraits of people (say, at an across-table distance, since a lot of my photos are taken of friends and family). It's just a little sucked-out feeling by comparison. Right now I'm shooting 35 (Olympus 17 1.8), and while it's a really nice lens, I always need to remember to shoot a bit wider than I want to and crop in after, when I could just have a lens that fits what I want to do better - but Panasonic's 20mm just has such nasty autofocus on my G85..
Funny to see comments of these being overpriced lol. These are basically mini GM lenses for 1/3rd the price and the cheapest G lenses Sony makes. Premium build quality and weather sealing., pro features, dual linear motors for very fast and accurate AF and top notch optical quality and sharpness. The garbage Sony 50 1.8 and the cheap 3rd party junk from Samyang and Yongnuo can't touch these. They are an absolute steal for the price.
People are sort of daft and don't recognize value. Or they decide that the manufacturer should be a charity and sell them for random X dollars. The G series is great. Love my 24.
40 and 50mm are both focal length I really like to have. I know it’s subtle difference but it make a difference when shooting people. The more love the 40 gets the better. I think they could have gone with a 58mm for the longer one.
not sure about this theory but maybe the 24mm's corners may not be so sharp because the fence is near the camera. So the center of the fence is closer to the camera than the corner of the fence. Thats perhaps why stopping down to 5.6, increasing the DOF made the corners a little sharper. The 40 and 50mms wouldn't have too much difference between the corners and centres because you have to step back from the fence to get the same shot. Also means the corner and centre are more likely to be within the DOF of the lens. Just a thought. Don't know for sure. I feel better to test centre vs corner sharpness with a further object.
That 24 has huge distortion (before in cam corrections) so the Sigma 24 contemporary is a better pick and also has aperture ring and very similar asthetics.
I wonder if they might be counting on people picking up the 24 and 40 because the most popular/common 50-ish mm lens out there for sony folks is the 55 1.8 zeiss which would put you 15mm off from the 40?
The loca "issue" is only really an "issue" in bight, high contrast conditions. Easily fixed with a polarising lens - removes most, if not all the problematic loca.
Very useful and prompt review. Much appreciated. Based on the information here, I'm interested in these three lenses. I think I shall pre-order the 24/2.8. I already have a 40/2 Zeiss Batis that I so no requirement there. Not sure about the 50/2.5 so I shall hold off there until more is known about its performance. Chris alludes to the third party lower cost competition. Yes that's true but where possible I choose native lenses unless I consider the prices to be prohibitive as I think they are with the G Master lenses. Anyhow, I'm looking forward to hearing/seeing more about these three amigos.
I think could go with the G 24mm 2.8, Zeiss 35mm 2.8, Zeiss 55mm 1.8 and Batis 85mm 1.8 for my compact Sony setup. Perhaps wouldn’t need the 24mm compact option and the Sony 85mm 1.8 is apparently very good lens too.
Completely disappears with a polarizing filter fitted (as it should be when photographing water in daylight). Not going to work for everyone I guess, but this is my solution to the loca "issue" and it works really well.
Man I totally agree. I really don't get why they made the 40 and 50 combo. I cant imagine that would inspire people to want to own the whole set. Those focal lengths are just too close. It's like one or the other. Bit of a miss imo. Instead they should have made a longer focal length more like a 65 ish round about there lens. Even a 70. That would have been ch more enticing I believe. But im still stoked that they're finally making smaller glass now and realizing (thanks to sigma) that there IS a market for it. I hope they continue this trend and come out with more focal lengths. Personally I would love a 28! 2.5? If possible? Lol. And a 75 or 85 would be amazing as well
How good are the 24mm lens for landscape photography for high resolution cameras when you want to print very large pro quality prints ? I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, but I also want a more compat and lightweight 24mm lens.
Hmmm, I really don't understand why someone should buy these. They're not that small, 2.5-2.8 isn't that appealing and they're really really expensive, for what they are. 600$ for a 50mm F2.5!? For that price I stay with the F1.8. That thing just needs a better AF. It's small and lightweight and yes, I love the image quality. When I saw the 24mm F2.8 for 600$ the first thing I thought was, that my 24mm F1.4 GM isn't looking that expensive anymore, compared to that 600$ crap. If this was a F2 or F1.8 lens the price would be ok, but 600$! for a 2.8? Go and get the Tamron versions for way less money or directly buy a Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 and save you're money. From my perspective, these are 350-max400$ lenses.
I agree, it’s crazy to think these are more expensive than the FE 85mm 1.8 and priced around the same as the FE 35mm 1.8. You’re really paying for that “G” lmao
@@MS-pq3he it's also quite a bit more expensive than the 28mm f2. Yes, that 4mm of difference is quite significant but for less money and a brighter lens, the 24mm makes no sense.
@@MrMeerkat818I have the 28 f2, it's not that sharp and has crazy distortion, this new 24 looks to be way sharper even wide open on a 50mp sensor plus you get better weather sealing much faster state of the art twin linear motor AF, declickable aperture ring and multifunction control button.
you’re right bro seriously i was excited until i saw the F stops 😒 & than for his review to basically say they all have average sharpness is a slap in the face my sigma 70mm macro art lens mops the floor with all of these even samyang offers more than these in terms of sharpness for around $400
I bought the 50mm f/2.5, already discounted to just a bit more expensive than the Samyang 45mm plus a dock. For what I use it for, AF speed is a priority and there is a weird gap in 50mm for sony. We really need a decent 50mm f/1.8 V2 for around $400-600 like the fantastic 85mm f/1.8 or 35 f/1.8. The original is slow and OK at best optically and the 55mm is way to expensive and the extra 5mm actually make it hard to use in my studio. The Sigma 50mm f/1.4 would be my choice for the price but it's way to big and heavy. The Samyang would have been high on my list if I didn't need to spend an extra $120 to buy the dock update it to fix the AF. I will try this lens and hope for a V2 nifty 50 or something similar.
Scratching my head at these lenses. £629 for a prime that's only F2.5-F2.8 that has some issues. They're quite compact but I'd rather spend some more money on a F1.2 Sigma.
If you are on a tight budget, get the samyang 35 2.8. you can find them used for around 100 bucks. Super light and super sharp with only slight AF compromise over the zeiss
I will stick with my cheap as hell, not perfect, but good enough tiny Samyang 24mm f/2.8. Would likely go for their 45mm f/1.8 over either the 40 and 50mm here. They look ok but for 600 I could get the Samyang 45mm f/1.8 and Samyang 75mm f/1.8 and I've heard nothing but good things about them, especially for value.
I would have bought the 45mm Samyang except it would be my only Samyang lens and you need the dock to update it and that extra cost for one lens makes it much less competitive.
Hi Chris, Can you please do a comparison on best Wide Zoom for Video. Thanks 🙏🏼 -Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 -Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM -Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Lens
... Just goes to show.. everyone keeps criticizing Canon for being behind the times but they've had a 40mm compact prime for years. 6D + ef40mm 2.8. Match made in heaven. The Sony is 2x the size and 3x the price.
I want to pair that 40mm to my anamorphic lens! 40mm is the widest I can go before it vignettes using vintage glass so I want to it with some new glass.
I’m a Canon 6D + 40mm pancake lens user. I never considered Sony cause there’s no 40mm. But with this is a welcome news! Hopefully there would be a pancake 40mm in the future then I’ll definitely jump!
Awesome review sir!Keep up the good work!!My problem is why did they produce lens with f2.5 and 2.8 ??? In lower price i can buy sigma 1.4 lens that are sharper than these lens! If they were f1.8 would worth a buy for sure!!👍👌
For street photography the weather resistance and how compact, plus the quality. I think they hit the spot just to have an a7iii very portable and discreet
That LoCA is a real problem. I shoot a lot of water and landscapes so it would be annoying. Plus, fast focus on a 24 shooting landscapes really isn't a key attribute. Sony seems to depend on the camera to correct a lot of lens problems.
Build Quality Excellent G-grade optics Weather sealing Compact size all at a reasonable price. Don't know how people mark these as bad lenses, when you can't get any compact lenses from 3rd party companies that have excellent optics at these focal lengths.
40mm is a return to the "true normal" lens, somewhere near the 43.3mm diagonal of FF. All the major players have announced some version of a "true normal" recently. I'm surprised you're having difficulty appreciating the difference between that and 50mm. 50mm is 25% larger than 40mm, which is a huge difference. That's about the standard step size in wides: 20, 24, 28, 35. 50mm (actually really dang close to 52.5mm for f/1.8, 1.7, 1.4, and 1.2 lenses. Lens makers play rounding games based on what they want to advertise and what they can make) is an aberration, of course, a compromise between the 43.3mm that photographers want and the 58mm that lens designers can make easily to accommodate an SLR's swinging mirror. That's why Nikon, Pentax, Minolta, Canon, etc. quickly discontinued their 58mm or 55mm (actually a shade under 57.5mm) f/1.4 lenses and brought in 50mm f/1.4, which reigned as "the" normal for decades. Unless I knew I needed speed, my "film days" normals were a 45mm f/2.8 Ai-P Nikon and a 40mm f2.0 Voigtlander aspherical Ultron. My goto on a Nikon Z is a Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton. I'm dying to try the Sony out on a Sony E to Nikon Z adapter.
Good Morning. My name is Hermano. I'm brazilian. I would like you to compare the quality of Sony's 28-60mm lens with Sony's 40mm/f.2.5 lens. Of course only in the 40mm position on both lenses. Is a fixed lens really sharper than a zoom lens? I have never seen such a comparison. A hug. I've been a fan of Dpreview for decades. Thanks.
They should have released a 65mm. So when the 35mm came out, the 50mm should have came out with it. And a 40mm and 65mm should have been paired with this release. 21/24mm with a 28mm.
Hi, would you please consider making a video that compares this new 50mm Sony lens against the Fuji 50mm F2 paired with the XS10? I would be incredibly interested to see how they stack against each other
At this price point: "affordable" is stretchable, but 40/50mm are very interesting. For street photography mostly in my opinion F/2.8 would be a joy! I've been using my SEL 55-210mm in 98% of the use cases. The 55mm end is great, but not as fast (f/4.5) as I would like.
@@zakkyh7443 sure, de-click aperture would have been great if the lens would have been usable for video manual focus. With that heavy focus breathing I can't see anyone would buy it for video.
@@nodidog Typical TH-camr. They would pick a piece of poop over a GM lens if that piece of poop had a wider aperture because, BLURRY BACKGROUNDS FTW!! They are clueless.
The 700€ price is reasonable as long as these lenses have very good optical quality and great autofocus performance. The introductory price of the small full frame Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 T* ZA Sonnar in 2013 was similar. These three lenses suit perfectly with the small Sony a7C. Especially the 24mm f/2.8 which has a very convenient angle of view for travel photography, without serious perspective distortion. Ideal for landscape or even full body portrait photography. The full frame e-mount 50mm focal length is very popular by photographers and Sony now covers every possible need of a full frame 50mm e-mount lenses. _The very expensive 50mm f/1.2 G for extremely shallow depth of field. _The less expensive Sony Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 for very shallow depth of field. _The extremely sharp Sony Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 which isn't very expensive and I believe belongs to the 50mm full frame family. _The very affordable 50mm f/1.8 _The macro 50mm f/2.8 which is very sharp too. _The recent very small, close to the pancake size 50mm f/2.8. Sony has such an impressive variety of 50mm full frame lenses designed for its mirrorless cameras. Canon and Nikon will need at least five years to offer a similar variety of full frame 50mm lenses designed to their mirrorless cameras. However I have to admit that the NIKKOR Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct which I believe belongs to the full frame 50mm family of lenses, is a very impressive unparalleled achievement.
The 700€ price is high for what they offer, being Sony they make you pay a premium for it. Check Sigma I series to compare... Also, Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 was (and still is) very expensive.
What happened to "Jordan here to talk about video"? Some obvious things about them for video: geared rings, all three same size, linear focus (very rare these days!).
Not sure if anyone would consider these for photography. Why buy these 3 prime lenses when you can do the same and some more with Tamron 2875 and 1728 combo? They are cheaper and look like, also perform better than these primes. I'm genuinely interested to know.
I'm still confused as to why... Like we want fast glass in a small package. Who doesn't like the size and speed of the 35 1.8 or the 55 1.8, sure we want better weather sealing but these G lenses are just disappointing
Now I want you to take a look at Marvels Falcon and the Winter Solider. It was shot with Panavision T-Series lenses which are the most advanced anamorphic lenses they make. They’re shooting on a set with expanded image circle for full frame capture. It looks like they’re shooting mostly wide open. I just open up the first episode and look at any non action scene in a daylight situation.
You can use that Loca as focus assist.
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24mm and 50mm on an A7c would be a super nice, really compact set up. Probably going to pick these up for that purpose.
Sigma has a 24 mm 3.5(or so) and they have a 45 mm 2.8 which are both built well and cheaper and about the same size.
Between this and Fuji's Mk2 of the XF27, it's cool to see the 40mm FF equiv. focal length get more love.
40mm is my favourite so I really hope we'll see more options across lens mounts that aren't horribly steppy focussing pancakes, but still pocketable - an inbetween step between traditional ultra low profile pancakes and standard size primes.
Agree, 40mm feels like an interesting balance between 50 & 35, good to see it in pancake form.
Nikon is also coming out with a compact 40mm for the Z mount
For proper geek cred they should have made it a 43mm. No point calling it a normal lens otherwise. ;-)
I love this focal length the most
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Great review again. But I miss something - please give us the wonderful Chris-and-Jordan interaction in front of the camera back that your older episodes made so unique.
Chris, what interests me is how your photography keeps improving. Better composing, more interesting subjects, you just keep getting better. You also are much more realistic about the performance of these lens then normal. I watch you guys because of who you are and also for the entertainment factor. Keep it up.
This are street photography high end compact lenses made for sure for Sony A7 C and also great for video on the run or a gimbal
If Sony had these compact primes years ago I might not have picked Fuji. Aperture+ring+compact size+weather sealing is part of why I went for the x-pro2 and the 35+23 f2 fujicrons. These still look quite a bit larger than the Fuji equivalents but still quite a bit more compact than their earlier offerings. After watching this I’m still glad I went with Fuji but this is nice for Sony shooters who want better lenses for street photography.
The issue is still the camera bodies. They need to release an a7c with dedicated exposure dials to give Fuji a real headache
That 24mm seems like it would be a good lens for gimbal work. Could carry that all day with no issues
I’d wish they make smaller zooms instead of tiny primes, like a G level 24_70 style. I have the 35f1.8 it’s not a G but it’s still great
I really love 40mm as a focal length, 50 is always just a little tight for a single lens for me and 35 gives me an odd feeling about proportions when shooting portraits of people (say, at an across-table distance, since a lot of my photos are taken of friends and family). It's just a little sucked-out feeling by comparison.
Right now I'm shooting 35 (Olympus 17 1.8), and while it's a really nice lens, I always need to remember to shoot a bit wider than I want to and crop in after, when I could just have a lens that fits what I want to do better - but Panasonic's 20mm just has such nasty autofocus on my G85..
Totally agree about that being a nice in between focal length
These primes, with the aperture ring and compact size, plus the A7c, seem to be aimed squarely at competing with Fuji
A Fuji without ergos
That’s what I was thinking but that focus btreathing....eek
Add a 45 and I'm interested
Nice review as always. Is there a possible way to find out what bag is that you are using? I kind a like it.
Funny to see comments of these being overpriced lol. These are basically mini GM lenses for 1/3rd the price and the cheapest G lenses Sony makes. Premium build quality and weather sealing., pro features, dual linear motors for very fast and accurate AF and top notch optical quality and sharpness. The garbage Sony 50 1.8 and the cheap 3rd party junk from Samyang and Yongnuo can't touch these. They are an absolute steal for the price.
They are not a steal lmao
People are sort of daft and don't recognize value. Or they decide that the manufacturer should be a charity and sell them for random X dollars. The G series is great. Love my 24.
Otherwise there are cheaper options, like the Samyang lenses.
How about the zeiss 55mm 1.8? Is the 1.8 really useful ?
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40 and 50mm are both focal length I really like to have. I know it’s subtle difference but it make a difference when shooting people. The more love the 40 gets the better. I think they could have gone with a 58mm for the longer one.
not sure about this theory but maybe the 24mm's corners may not be so sharp because the fence is near the camera. So the center of the fence is closer to the camera than the corner of the fence. Thats perhaps why stopping down to 5.6, increasing the DOF made the corners a little sharper. The 40 and 50mms wouldn't have too much difference between the corners and centres because you have to step back from the fence to get the same shot. Also means the corner and centre are more likely to be within the DOF of the lens. Just a thought. Don't know for sure. I feel better to test centre vs corner sharpness with a further object.
That 24 has huge distortion (before in cam corrections) so the Sigma 24 contemporary is a better pick and also has aperture ring and very similar asthetics.
What tripod have you brought on the trip? Anyone knows?
Any recommendation for Full Frame prime lens for travel? Smaller the better.
Manufacturers are getting smart. Market is demanding smaller lighter FF lenses.
Well explained, very helpful. Thank you!
I wonder if they might be counting on people picking up the 24 and 40 because the most popular/common 50-ish mm lens out there for sony folks is the 55 1.8 zeiss which would put you 15mm off from the 40?
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The loca "issue" is only really an "issue" in bight, high contrast conditions. Easily fixed with a polarising lens - removes most, if not all the problematic loca.
Very useful and prompt review. Much appreciated. Based on the information here, I'm interested in these three lenses. I think I shall pre-order the 24/2.8. I already have a 40/2 Zeiss Batis that I so no requirement there. Not sure about the 50/2.5 so I shall hold off there until more is known about its performance. Chris alludes to the third party lower cost competition. Yes that's true but where possible I choose native lenses unless I consider the prices to be prohibitive as I think they are with the G Master lenses. Anyhow, I'm looking forward to hearing/seeing more about these three amigos.
I think could go with the G 24mm 2.8, Zeiss 35mm 2.8, Zeiss 55mm 1.8 and Batis 85mm 1.8 for my compact Sony setup.
Perhaps wouldn’t need the 24mm compact option and the Sony 85mm 1.8 is apparently very good lens too.
I need to shoot small product like cufflinks - should I consider the 50 Macro instead? Also I do a lot of video, breathing is a problem here?
Came out quicker than expected! What a shock
I totally appreciate the 40mm G. Been waiting. For my purpose 40mm is standard (not 35mm or 50mm).
Hi. Would you use these with the FX6, FX9 etc? thanks!
That LoCA in the water photos was really bad unless you like magenta water.
Completely disappears with a polarizing filter fitted (as it should be when photographing water in daylight). Not going to work for everyone I guess, but this is my solution to the loca "issue" and it works really well.
Man I totally agree. I really don't get why they made the 40 and 50 combo. I cant imagine that would inspire people to want to own the whole set. Those focal lengths are just too close. It's like one or the other. Bit of a miss imo. Instead they should have made a longer focal length more like a 65 ish round about there lens. Even a 70. That would have been ch more enticing I believe. But im still stoked that they're finally making smaller glass now and realizing (thanks to sigma) that there IS a market for it. I hope they continue this trend and come out with more focal lengths. Personally I would love a 28! 2.5? If possible? Lol. And a 75 or 85 would be amazing as well
Thanks for as always a great revieW!
Any idea how the 24 works on the Sony APS-C? Thanks.
How good are the 24mm lens for landscape photography for high resolution cameras when you want to print very large pro quality prints ? I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, but I also want a more compat and lightweight 24mm lens.
Distortion and vignetting are huge on this 24mm. Get the Sony 20mm 1.8 G lens instead? it's smaller but optically on par with the 24mm GM.
Loxia 21mm. Landscape specialist lens, small and no compromise except AF, which isn't much benefit for landscape.
Why everyone complain about focusbreathing? I tested it on the 85 Batis, 50 1.4 Minolta and they are breathing as well. Why nobody cared about before?
Hmmm, I really don't understand why someone should buy these. They're not that small, 2.5-2.8 isn't that appealing and they're really really expensive, for what they are. 600$ for a 50mm F2.5!? For that price I stay with the F1.8. That thing just needs a better AF. It's small and lightweight and yes, I love the image quality. When I saw the 24mm F2.8 for 600$ the first thing I thought was, that my 24mm F1.4 GM isn't looking that expensive anymore, compared to that 600$ crap. If this was a F2 or F1.8 lens the price would be ok, but 600$! for a 2.8? Go and get the Tamron versions for way less money or directly buy a Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 and save you're money.
From my perspective, these are 350-max400$ lenses.
I agree, it’s crazy to think these are more expensive than the FE 85mm 1.8 and priced around the same as the FE 35mm 1.8. You’re really paying for that “G” lmao
@@MS-pq3he it's also quite a bit more expensive than the 28mm f2. Yes, that 4mm of difference is quite significant but for less money and a brighter lens, the 24mm makes no sense.
@@MrMeerkat818I have the 28 f2, it's not that sharp and has crazy distortion, this new 24 looks to be way sharper even wide open on a 50mp sensor plus you get better weather sealing much faster state of the art twin linear motor AF, declickable aperture ring and multifunction control button.
you’re right bro seriously i was excited until i saw the F stops 😒 & than for his review to basically say they all have average sharpness is a slap in the face my sigma 70mm macro art lens mops the floor with all of these even samyang offers more than these in terms of sharpness for around $400
I bought the 50mm f/2.5, already discounted to just a bit more expensive than the Samyang 45mm plus a dock. For what I use it for, AF speed is a priority and there is a weird gap in 50mm for sony. We really need a decent 50mm f/1.8 V2 for around $400-600 like the fantastic 85mm f/1.8 or 35 f/1.8. The original is slow and OK at best optically and the 55mm is way to expensive and the extra 5mm actually make it hard to use in my studio. The Sigma 50mm f/1.4 would be my choice for the price but it's way to big and heavy. The Samyang would have been high on my list if I didn't need to spend an extra $120 to buy the dock update it to fix the AF. I will try this lens and hope for a V2 nifty 50 or something similar.
Scratching my head at these lenses. £629 for a prime that's only F2.5-F2.8 that has some issues. They're quite compact but I'd rather spend some more money on a F1.2 Sigma.
The point of these is so u can walk around with a lightweight lens that won’t break your back after an hour
I'm on a tight budget. Do you think a used Sonnar 35mm F2.8 Zeiss would be comparable to the 40mm 2.5?
If you are on a tight budget, get the samyang 35 2.8. you can find them used for around 100 bucks. Super light and super sharp with only slight AF compromise over the zeiss
How do they compare to the Tamron 28-75 mm? If close the zoom is a better deal. Also I wonder how they compare to the Nikon Z 50mm 1.8.
I will stick with my cheap as hell, not perfect, but good enough tiny Samyang 24mm f/2.8. Would likely go for their 45mm f/1.8 over either the 40 and 50mm here. They look ok but for 600 I could get the Samyang 45mm f/1.8 and Samyang 75mm f/1.8 and I've heard nothing but good things about them, especially for value.
i have the samyang 45mm f1.8. it is extremely sharp at f2 and has the 3d pop. i am very happy with it.
I would have bought the 45mm Samyang except it would be my only Samyang lens and you need the dock to update it and that extra cost for one lens makes it much less competitive.
Hi Chris,
Can you please do a comparison on best Wide Zoom for Video. Thanks 🙏🏼
-Sigma 18-35mm f1.8
-Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM
-Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Lens
... Just goes to show.. everyone keeps criticizing Canon for being behind the times but they've had a 40mm compact prime for years. 6D + ef40mm 2.8. Match made in heaven. The Sony is 2x the size and 3x the price.
Been a subscriber for a long time know, so it isn’t me!!! Gotta agree with the other Brian about feeling targeted... 😂
I want to pair that 40mm to my anamorphic lens! 40mm is the widest I can go before it vignettes using vintage glass so I want to it with some new glass.
Is that how all the couches are in Canada?
Usually made of snow.
I’m a Canon 6D + 40mm pancake lens user. I never considered Sony cause there’s no 40mm. But with this is a welcome news! Hopefully there would be a pancake 40mm in the future then I’ll definitely jump!
tamron make the 24 35 40 F2.0 pancake lens pls.
Awesome review sir!Keep up the good work!!My problem is why did they produce lens with f2.5 and 2.8 ??? In lower price i can buy sigma 1.4 lens that are sharper than these lens! If they were f1.8 would worth a buy for sure!!👍👌
will they have an 85mm?
Okay, that stone couch is dope.
Is it sharper than Nikon 40mm macro or Tamron 45mm 1.8
I feel like Chris is speaking directly to me...
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Where you guys in this episode? where is this valley?
very much like the Pentax pancake trio for apsc
For street photography the weather resistance and how compact, plus the quality. I think they hit the spot just to have an a7iii very portable and discreet
I tried and tried, but I could not spot the fishing rod and kit sitting just off to Chris' side in this video..... had to be there....;~)
I've definitely fished the Elbow a little lower down. No fishing rod that day though. The season is still closed.
Sony bringing the heat this year!
I'm underwhelmed. I suspect Sony will have to discount these heavily in the future.
Why does no reviewer consider these may be FULL FRAME DRONE lenses for the FX3 and the new drone that is coming. Perfect for that methinks.
That LoCA is a real problem. I shoot a lot of water and landscapes so it would be annoying. Plus, fast focus on a 24 shooting landscapes really isn't a key attribute. Sony seems to depend on the camera to correct a lot of lens problems.
Build Quality
Excellent G-grade optics
Weather sealing
Compact size
all at a reasonable price.
Don't know how people mark these as bad lenses, when you can't get any compact lenses from 3rd party companies that have excellent optics at these focal lengths.
Great lenses for street photography and travel. Nice review
40mm is a return to the "true normal" lens, somewhere near the 43.3mm diagonal of FF. All the major players have announced some version of a "true normal" recently. I'm surprised you're having difficulty appreciating the difference between that and 50mm. 50mm is 25% larger than 40mm, which is a huge difference. That's about the standard step size in wides: 20, 24, 28, 35.
50mm (actually really dang close to 52.5mm for f/1.8, 1.7, 1.4, and 1.2 lenses. Lens makers play rounding games based on what they want to advertise and what they can make) is an aberration, of course, a compromise between the 43.3mm that photographers want and the 58mm that lens designers can make easily to accommodate an SLR's swinging mirror. That's why Nikon, Pentax, Minolta, Canon, etc. quickly discontinued their 58mm or 55mm (actually a shade under 57.5mm) f/1.4 lenses and brought in 50mm f/1.4, which reigned as "the" normal for decades.
Unless I knew I needed speed, my "film days" normals were a 45mm f/2.8 Ai-P Nikon and a 40mm f2.0 Voigtlander aspherical Ultron. My goto on a Nikon Z is a Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton. I'm dying to try the Sony out on a Sony E to Nikon Z adapter.
All kinda Meh. For 350-450 $ they'd be ok
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Oh boy. These are some sharp lens
Nice !!! 24mm f2.8 maybe would be my next lens for my a7iii
I’d take a look at the Samyang/Rokinon 24mm f2.8 if you want to save a few bucks. The 35 mm is a steal, and the 24 gets great reviews too
Where’s Jordan with video?
But Chris, isn't a 40mm just a 35mm that grew a bit taller? :) do you like a 32mm better because it's on the shorter side?
rather just get a sigma 28-75 2.8 for the price of 2 of these lenses :P
Good Morning. My name is Hermano. I'm brazilian. I would like you to compare the quality of Sony's 28-60mm lens with Sony's 40mm/f.2.5 lens. Of course only in the 40mm position on both lenses. Is a fixed lens really sharper than a zoom lens? I have never seen such a comparison. A hug. I've been a fan of Dpreview for decades. Thanks.
was thinking the 24mm would be a nice compliment to my sony 55mm fe, but I have plenty of localiciousness with that 55mm so I'm good there.
Especially on a A7RIV, I'd go with the 40mm (it's one of my favorite focal lengths) as you can always crop in some if you need.
I am not sure about these lenses for this type of camera resolutions, with 60 or even 42 mega pixel
@@enricocatarinozzi8674 I usually don't use the types of lenses I should for a 61mp camera, haha. (I also don't usually display things at 61mp)
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They should have released a 65mm. So when the 35mm came out, the 50mm should have came out with it. And a 40mm and 65mm should have been paired with this release. 21/24mm with a 28mm.
why release a 40 and a 50?
Hi, would you please consider making a video that compares this new 50mm Sony lens against the Fuji 50mm F2 paired with the XS10? I would be incredibly interested to see how they stack against each other
Where is the nikon 50 1.2 review ?
Too bad because three months earlier and I would have switched systems. That applies to the announced Sigma 24 as well.
Looks targeted at a7C users
Heh. Captain Obvious!
It's the veritasium of camera gear!
At this price point: "affordable" is stretchable, but 40/50mm are very interesting. For street photography mostly in my opinion
F/2.8 would be a joy! I've been using my SEL 55-210mm in 98% of the use cases. The 55mm end is great, but not as fast (f/4.5) as I would like.
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600 USD for a 2.5 50mm lens? That's not even that great?? Wow. Just wow.
@@zakkyh7443 sure, de-click aperture would have been great if the lens would have been usable for video manual focus. With that heavy focus breathing I can't see anyone would buy it for video.
Agree it's expensive, but not that great is a bit harsh I think.
You determine if a lense is great based solely on its max aperture? Wow. Just wow.
This comment helped me lean towards the tamron series.
@@nodidog Typical TH-camr. They would pick a piece of poop over a GM lens if that piece of poop had a wider aperture because, BLURRY BACKGROUNDS FTW!! They are clueless.
This seems like an answer to fujifilm prime 🤷🏻👍🏻
More like an answer to recent Sigma lenses. Even styling is similar.
Not gonna lie these did catch my eye when I heard about them. But now that they’re out and the price is revealed I find no desire to give up my Fujis.
@@buddyWalrus Do you usually lie?
@@mavfan1 sometimes yes, but in this case no 😁
And distorsion in RAW.
I wonder how they stack up with the Sigma I lenses
I guess you'll have to compare them yourself!!!!
think Gerald Undone compared it in his video
Cool 40mm
The 700€ price is reasonable as long as these lenses have very good optical quality and great autofocus performance.
The introductory price of the small full frame Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 T* ZA Sonnar in 2013 was similar.
These three lenses suit perfectly with the small Sony a7C.
Especially the 24mm f/2.8 which has a very convenient angle of view for travel photography, without serious perspective distortion. Ideal for landscape or even full body portrait photography.
The full frame e-mount 50mm focal length is very popular by photographers and Sony now covers every possible need of a full frame 50mm e-mount lenses.
_The very expensive 50mm f/1.2 G for extremely shallow depth of field.
_The less expensive Sony Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 for very shallow depth of field.
_The extremely sharp Sony Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 which isn't very expensive and I believe belongs to the 50mm full frame family.
_The very affordable 50mm f/1.8
_The macro 50mm f/2.8 which is very sharp too.
_The recent very small, close to the pancake size 50mm f/2.8.
Sony has such an impressive variety of 50mm full frame lenses designed for its mirrorless cameras. Canon and Nikon will need at least five years to offer a similar variety of full frame 50mm lenses designed to their mirrorless cameras.
However I have to admit that the NIKKOR Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct which I believe belongs to the full frame 50mm family of lenses, is a very impressive unparalleled achievement.
The 700€ price is high for what they offer, being Sony they make you pay a premium for it. Check Sigma I series to compare...
Also, Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 was (and still is) very expensive.
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What happened to "Jordan here to talk about video"? Some obvious things about them for video: geared rings, all three same size, linear focus (very rare these days!).
Not sure if anyone would consider these for photography. Why buy these 3 prime lenses when you can do the same and some more with Tamron 2875 and 1728 combo? They are cheaper and look like, also perform better than these primes. I'm genuinely interested to know.
I'm still confused as to why... Like we want fast glass in a small package. Who doesn't like the size and speed of the 35 1.8 or the 55 1.8, sure we want better weather sealing but these G lenses are just disappointing
Now I want you to take a look at Marvels Falcon and the Winter Solider. It was shot with Panavision T-Series lenses which are the most advanced anamorphic lenses they make. They’re shooting on a set with expanded image circle for full frame capture. It looks like they’re shooting mostly wide open. I just open up the first episode and look at any non action scene in a daylight situation.