"...shall not subject Soldiers to UCMJ action." at least tells me the LT is smart enough to know it will never pass legal muster. So we will handle all enforcement and punishment off the record.
Did anyone else see that the LTs memo was dated 25 Dec? So this fool is definitely "in charge" for Christmas. I would hope that when the company commander gets back from vacation, holds a formation and after welcoming everyone back, pulls this memo out of his back pocket rips it up while yelling "Death before Dismount"
Hands down the commander and 1SG was on Xmas leave and the XO had an assumption of Command and went crazy. Hell I bet the acting 1SG was a newly promoted Sgt that didn’t go on block leave 😂😂😂😂
In the 1970's I served in the Australian Army and the 4 fighting corps were explained this way: "Engineers clear the mines to the objective, artillery suppresses the objective allowing armoured corp to transport the infantry to the object where they bayonet the wounded." Times have changed.
@@JoeRogansForeheadhate to break it to you but the japs weren’t scared of shit. They got nuked TWICE and still didn’t want to surrender until we bluffed and said we had a 3rd.
Yep, then Angus Campbell came along and said that the Army can’t use the word Spartan anymore because it’s ‘not professional’. Western Military’s have lost sight of what’s important.
This is a great example of the best rule of leadership I have ever heard. Never give an order you know won't be followed. NOBODY is going to follow this, so they will get used to ignoring this idiot, which means they will ignore him when it counts.
Depends on which list of the rules as to what number it is on the military quotes website it's listed as number one but it's simply "Friendly fire isn't"
@@brishanswords4952 I wasn't even necessarily referring to combat. As an XO he probably gives orders on a regular basis that actually are important, necessary, and relevant to actual readiness. If he starts giving orders like this the line gets blurred and eventually those orders start getting ignored too, which will actually cause real problems, as opposed to the imagined fantasy problem that he is trying to address here.
Which they probably should. This “leader” is stupid enough to get a lot of people de-alived thinking he’s some tactical genius who has not been discovered yet.
Makes me CRY - the level of butt-hurt prevention. I am OLD school - late in my career I was stuck as an Anti-Submarine Analyst on the Carrier for 2 years instead of FLYING - we worked hard at our job AND to stay in Rescue Swimmer shape (12 hour shift at a console)... ONE of the Rescue Swimmers put on POUNDS and we teased him - nicknamed him "StayPuff"... he got butt-hurt and whined to the Commodore late one evening Commodore looked at him for a minute - "Stop your whining StayPuff". PRAISE the Good Old Days - then came the icing on the cake - the Commodore's Master Chief is standing there - grabs a phone and dials the CAG (Carrier Air Group) PR Shop (Flight Gear) and asks the PRC to embroider up a "StayPuff" nametag for the guy's flight suit - the Commodore just grinned and left.
Lol, saw that while I was on the Tarawa. The good old days of service. Good old HT1 "Firewall" because he was so big he could block the p-way top to bottom and side to side. But he didn't care he was on his last hitch before retiring, and cool as hell.
I had a commander who wanted me to reschedule a surgery of mine that I was waiting for 3 months. This was for a disease that was a major surgery to have and he was pissed that I didn't.
@@AngryCops believe me I don't either, I got 3 years left and I'm in the middle of a meb. It makes me almost want to take whatever deal they offer and get away from the BS
Maybe once this could be attributed to the stupidity of LTs. But in the last few years I’ve seen many similar proclamations from all ranks, officer and enlisted, up to the GO level. The rot in the Army has become deep.
Man..... my Cap always had a plan. Fuckin sham tastic lol. He was good at leading but I honestly think he was a mustang. Dude would tell us to pop smoke at like 330 some times. He's an officer! Fucking go! 😂😂😂 (5 was usually the earliest though 6 was usually the latest).
Brand new Academy grad Lt at my first base (I was a brand new A1C in ‘98): outside almost crying because the NCO’s jacked up his lifted beast of a truck, put the tires on their sides, and set the truck back down on the rims (the jack stands were hidden behind the tires so it WAS supported). Everyone got a laugh, then the NCO’s (found out later, the ones who did it), walked up and helped the L.T. (What we called him) get everything straightened out… no joke, after that, that Lt turned into one of the best officers I ever worked with. He never gave anyone busy work, and was just flat out logical and real when it came to details (smokers, yes I was one at the time, were tasked with picking up butts in the parking lots), if you busted your ass all week, he sent you home by noon on Friday mission permitting… minimum once a month he BBQ’d for his troops, and all “voluntold” volunteer work, he and your supervisor were standing next to you. Amazing guy. 26 years later, only worked with him for 2 years at my first base and I still remember his name and what he looked like.
@@WhiskyCardinalWes I was thinking the same. They need to back this one by rubbing it in the face of then LT. Say it every chance they get to make him look like a fool.
Nah, the other 1st Sgts wouldn't do ....yeah, no, I couldn't finish typing that with a straight face. I'm pretty sure other units not in the Cav will be shouting it just to mess with the crazy lieutenant.
@@CaesarInVaI would like to introduce you to the current resident of the mental asylum, formerly known as the White House. No rank is exempt from the need to be told to shut the fuck up these days.
To quote the new president of Argentina: If the government printing money could solve inflation and poverty why doesn't just printing diplomas solve stupidity.
I've never served in the military, I have no idea how this channel even got recommended to me today, but this is easily one of the best recommendations TH-cam has given me in 10+ years. Today was my first day off work in just under 2 weeks, I've worked 258 hours spread across the last 30 days.. I'm a retail manager at a large home improvement chain and with Spring fast approaching things have been absolutely bonkers (coupled with some major personnel problems happening recently). Anyway, I needed these laughs so badly. I'm subbed and I can't wait to keep diving into your videos man!
At this point there are neighborhood watches more capable of waging wars. I find it bizarre how an organisation that trains its people to deal death and destruction can be so "soft".
I got written up last night for a female coworker feeling unsafe by listening to me yell at the line lead and I’m the maintenance line lead. So she went to hr and told them I violated the hostile work policy because she listened to something that had nothing to do with her cause she’s been a production worker for 5 years . Now I’m probation and I can be fired for anything even if I’m innocent. You can’t say move your ass anymore or civilians will take your job please explain how people can get fired cause there feelings are hurt.
Messed up my shoulders while I was in, and someone in battalion had the same "great" idea to ban doctors appointment/sickcall in the mornings unless it was "the emergency room". But I was out of the muscle relaxers they had prescribed for the physical therapy course they put me on. They had told me to just come back and get more so my doctor could do a mid course checkup, and they had set the appointment for the same effective day as the new "no more appointments". So i called them and told them my command was barring appointments unless it was the emergency room, they went "okay, whats your pain scale right now? Is it interfering with daily life? Okay, go to the emergency room right now." Told my first sergeant they ordered me to the emergency room, and then went. Explained the same to them, they were like "stupid, but yeah theyre right this pain isnt normal". Took like 6 hours, come back with a quarters slip and writeup to hand them, and the muscle relaxors i needed to sleep. At that point, my shoulders made audible grinding and pops whenever I moved them, and I had lost a large amount of mobility. Since ER visits are reportable to higher command, very suddenly they sent out a rush of emails saying "this policy was not meant to interfere with Servicemembers medical conditions, blah blah blah" it was just "to encourage servicemembers to discuss issues with their leadership beforehand" and all the other backpedelling im sure youll see if you get a follow up AC. Doing this is always a GREAT idea, until you have to implement it, and suddenly you have to OWN it. Thats usually when all of a sudden you "misinterpreted" and they "just want to clear up some misconceptions about the new policy..." and "the old policy will be put into effect until clearer guidance on our intent is drafted and published"
The James Avery jewelry brand hired a safety manager from California, and one of his first acts was to put out a memo that people were not allowed to use hammers without proper safety training. There are people like these in the world some how walking and survivng.
Fun fact: The LT is almost always going to be outranked by the doctor. If the doctor wants you to come to an appt at PT time and you say no LT said you cant, the Captain or higher most military doctors are can override him and order you to appear which LT can't override. My LT discovered this fact a few decades back. He wrote a policy saying we must answer the phone or call back within 30 minutes 24/7/365. Problem being aircrew have crew rest and maintenance crew have mandatory rest periods assigned by the highest ranking person in the military. So his new policy was illegal and if you followed it you're violating the UCMJ because you not only can't follow it, you're legally obligated to report it.
Fun Fact: in 2009, I was ordered mandatory bed rest for an entire week because I had Swine Flu. The guy who ordered this was a full bird Colonel, outranked every last person in 1-13th Cav. Funner Fact: I had to report for every first formation of that week, and go see the medics at Sick Call to confirm that I was still sick with the diagnosis that actual doctors with decades of medical experience diagnosed me with. The first few days there was zero chance I'd pass a field sobriety test, but was still ordered to drive in. Yeah, I could have pushed the issue about what orders superceded other orders, but PFCs don't do well when they go outside the chain of command to raise issues.
Fun Fact: In 2012 I got PRK eye surgery and was on 2 week con leave taking Percocet and I had to go in for a piss test. I refused to drive so they sent someone to get me. No shit, I pissed hot.
My fat PMC who was a corporal(its an E5 billet) could shoot from the 500 meter line standing and never miss. He was the embodiment of Death Before Dismount. Dude says he doesnt PT because he has a truck to drive him to combat.
Fricken made me laugh out loud. I had a gunner like this. He was overweight, but saved his squad with cover fire twice. Then returned to Conus... and our CDR wanted to kick hi out.🙄
@@armynation31B5V5PI had a guy in my squad that was 6 foot eight and 280 pounds. He could do everything that was asked of him. He ran a high PFT, he could hike with the best of him and did an obstacle course in record time. However his body fat was 3 percent over what they wanted it to be. My company 1stsgt wanted to put him on weight control when this guy scored higher on PFTs than 1stsgt did. Then they wonder why retention is at an all time low
I looked up, "Death before dismount" and the unit that sent the memo. For tank crews the phrase is short for the longer command that means stay in your tank. For troop carriers it means to lay down cover fire while the troops exit the vehicle. The unit that got the memo is part of the California National Guard.
Yeah, as an MP it meant "we only operate as a squad sized element of 4 teams of 3, so the gun needs to always be manned because about half our firepower comes from those 4 crew served weapons" Alternatively it was the way we complained about Friday ruck marches 😂
Hey Drill, we was told never to yell Geronimo when jumping out of a plane in ft. Benning, then when I was stationed in GTMO we was told never to say code red
This was the last nail in the coffin for the Coast Guard. There used to be an oft quoted quote from an adm (I believe), “the book says we have to go out, it doesn’t say a damn thing about coming back”. It gave everyone that gung-ho, can-do attitude that got things done. Once the the brass got on that “safety” kick, it killed the internal culture.
Oh man, when that video of the Coastie was banging on that submarine "Alto Su Barco!!" Admin was fucking LIVID! THE HORROR! that's a breach of safety policy!! I'm 100% certain that they would've tried to kick him out and reprimand everyone. HOWEVER it was recorded, it spread viral like wildfire and because of the overwhelming positive praise they had no choice but to smile and say Bravo Zulu shipmate! (whispering: you got lucky this time). At least that's what I believe.
22 year retired Navy Senior Chief here. I remember running with new Chiefs and calling cadence and one of the female "chiefs" got upset because the cadence was making fun of other branches of service. I knew right then that we were fucked....... Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. We are in the weak men phase.......
Senior I completely hear and feel ya there. Former MM2 here, had something similar happen with my command when we got some fresh kids outta boot and a new female MM3 in the division and we did the same training drills and cadences. Some were complaining up the chain, "we can't make fun of other branches" and "you need to be more sensitive to our feelings". At that point I understood why my DI requested to be sent back to the fleet early if this was the new quality of Sailor we were putting into service. I got out early in 2005 as this bs was coming to light.
Its why we must not forget our history and be accurate with it.. Now with tearing down monuments and rewriting history based on feels we have people who are not worried about bringing back the evil.. To them power doesn't come with a cost.. As longbas they get more power they dont think about how such thing's have turned out before.. Just look at the politics this year... The messing with other countries until a another war starts.. The mass support of Genocide and Communism...
Yes, this generation of weak men is the result of the "lets not harm thier self-esteem" generation. Not to mention the full pads and helmits to ride a bycycle generation.
There's a reason I'm a veteran and no longer active duty. The fee-fee's are winning the battle, and our military will absolutely be less lethal because of it.
ARMY: Death before dismount is disrespectful! Meanwhile.... MARINES: Running down a busy road on Camp Lejeune during morning PT singing cadence about killing, pussy, and blood. 😂😅
I have dealt with generals who would write that in a heartbeat. I recall the general in charge of the Pacific issuing an order that "sexual activity of any kind is prohibited in the barracks" thus making beating off a criminal offense.
On behalf of all XOs, STOP THE MEMOS. Any 1LT who voluntarily writes an unnecessary memo clearly needs to go back and repeat O-1 because they didn't learn anything.
It’s called the Frankfurt school and after infiltrating all our regular universities they infiltrated the military ones. The long march through the institutions.
WRT medical. When I was active duty I participated in dozens of triathlons. Following a specific triathlon I started to feel really bad and began puking my guts out. Went to medical, they immediately put me in morpheme and took out a burst appendix within an hr. They didn’t even want to wait for any arthroscopic, but just cut me open to save time. My commanding officer was denying my required convalescence leave because “he intentionally gave himself his appendicitides by participating in triathlons to get out of work.” They literally were expecting me to show up the next day. Luckily the surgeon was an O6, who called the O5 and ripped him a new one. The surgeon was so disgusted and had a good conversation with me after I woke up. That CO would later be fired after I had left due to abhorrent command climate issues.
The one thing I will never ever fucking miss is the obscene amount of memos. Be it the constant changing formats or just the sheer amount of the fuckers.
@@Gamer1990100just think about it for a moment. Every single memo is printed and reprinted, and signed off, by multiple hierarchies of stupid motherfuckers, before it eventually trickles down to the enlisted ranks. If these are the ones that get approved, just imagine the numbers of idiotic ideas actually being proposed and processed on a daily basis. It must be an absolute mountain of drool-inducing dumbassery being put to paper.
The people that are joining now are typically the people that couldn’t handle the civilian world (aside from actual patriots fighting for country) because it pays for college and food and tells them what to do. Ps. Never served myself, working govt retirement management mainly bc it pays more and does things I agree with more. Unfortunately the military does things those doing the things don’t want to do
In fairness, thats not a bad thing. We wont ever suffer an invasion, and the lack of readiness to apply "democracy" at gunpoint to any country that wants to exist means we arent capable of starting another forever war.
Well the messing around for more power has created new enemies.. That has lead to those enemies working togther with others to bypass one of the biggest ways we keep power, the US Dollar.. We have gone from everyone having to use the US dollar for oil etc.. To the countries we pissed off to working togther with their own currency.. Other countries will do a lot to work with the strongest super power but they will only go so far.. If you keep pushing and pushing for more than you turn into the bully they fight back against..
Sadly i know of the shenanigans of the 1-18 Cav. That 1LT's memo wreaks of (in nasally voice)"I graduated from ROTC, where my major was poly sci. I went for a cav spot because i wanted to prove myself."
I was a tanker in D Co. 2-70. If that happened at C 2-70, Top would have told us to sound off with "Death Before Dismount!" at every formation. Loved that guy.
As a former Company grade officer I’m embarrassed. Luckily as a Company Commander I never let my LTs do stupid shit. But I also was a former enlisted as well so I knew better lol… great episode 👍🏻🇺🇸🫡
Green to gold! Man loved you officers. As a patriot missle system operator i dealt with many butter bars. Of the 63 i helped train or worked with on the system, 19 wrre green to gold and i spotted them all before they told me. Every soldier worth a damn could spot you and would die for our green to gold officers!! Thank you sir!!
HAZING IS IMPORTANT! im happy i got my experience when i look at all the other shit comin through. Military is for tough people or for people who want to become tough. DONT LOWER THE STANDARD!
I remember the fun we used to have with fresh butter bars back in the day (Army 2000-2013). One is a Maj now and still gets a subscription to Playgirl Magazine delivered to his office from time to time. 😅
So instead of “Death Before Dismount,” they should fuck with the LT and say “Un-alive Before Un-ride,” or “Kill Before Crawl,” or “Fatality Before Feet,” or “Wasted Before Walking.” Same spirit of the expression without using the exact words. Just cue the malicious compliance.
I remember I had a 1LT cry to the commander (USAF) because I said the words "What are you talking about?" on the phone as I was preparing the entire base for a MAJCOM audit and didn't know what little stupid acronym she made up meant and what she was on about. It was deemed disrespectful...so I had to have paperwork written up, and when I told my boss as he gave me the paperwork, that she told me she didn't know how it got to this point, he sat me down and told me she demanded to the 1SGT I get paperwork. As we sat down for my reprimand, he was reading the document, and got to the point of this is unbecoming of...he stopped, said I thought i removed this, went back o his desk and removed it. It basically said I should not have talked to the LT in this manner, and didn't say anything about the behavior or any repeated offenses or any of the typical crap. He told me later on as he put in for retirement, that they threatened him if he didn't comply. He retired not that long after.
I was the only medic (Senior SPC lol) for my Company while stationed at Ft. Carson but my unit had the best medical readiness in the whole BN. My secret? I told soldiers to make their apts during PT hours. Blew their minds and it worked. ... Did I somehow cause this memo half a decade later? Who knows.
I know this LT. There's one in every battalion (usually). He likely carries a riding crop, has Guderian books on a shelf in his office, lots of model tanks in his office, hides premature balding with a well shaved head (sorry AC, just a coincidence), and often wears shiny, black leather gloves in the field even on hot days, along with those really, really high strapped Danner cav boots and perhaps even smokes a weird looking, thin black cigar or cigarette and maybe even a uses a cigarette holder at times. He also has a military history vignette to support all his policies and edicts and uses the occasional german military term in idle conversation, and will rise to the top up to the rank of major at which time his career will crash and burn in flames when the colonels and generals realize he is a huge liability to their career and units' readiness.
LOL we had this guy as well. He wore a cav hat in uniform every Friday and the CSM and 1SGs yelled at him for it. They gave up on him. The soldiers loved him because he was truly sincere in his derangement and wasnt mean spirited and actually liked soldiers. But he made BZ to major and yup, retired as a MAJ at 20.
Saw you on Donutoperator and I am in love with you guys You make me laugh but the training videos and all the help you all give to our officers and soldiers is amazing to me. Thank you for your service and just being a bad ass
Holy crap 07:30-09:30 for PT.....we had already did Company formation, PT, eaten Breakfast, cleaned the common areas and have been on the job for over an hour by 08:00
@@ranger51262 Benning, oh I'm sorry, Moore🤣🤣🤣, Fck that, it's Benning. And I'm gonna guess 3rd batt, you were RGT, I was over at Garrison. Nothing like getting new recruits, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was up on Kelly,..🍻
And people wonder how vets get out broken and nothing ends up in the medical records. You have guys like this who think getting hurt is a personal attack on them.
I got counseled by my supervisor because he thought I was faking calling in sick to stretch out my weekends. He said "25% of your sick days are on Monday or Friday, and that is suspicious". I pointed out that 40% of the work week is a Monday or Friday, and asked if he wanted me to call in sick on Monday/Friday more often to even it out. He did not seem pleased, but decided to let the matter drop.
This is why a college degree should never have to be the main thing behind becoming an officer. Some of these officers come from colleges where they are taught to be soft, weak people.
I can't agree with that to a certain extent. Officers should go through college because it gives them a deeper educational background as well as furthering their problem solving skills. However, they should go through military colleges. They are much less involved in politics than civilian colleges and actually produce officers that are fully bought in on the military and don't enter the force as a political officer.
@@DH-xw6jp We have plenty of structures built recently that haven't collapsed. Because those college educated engineers were taught problem solving skills.
@@davidmarsh7933 Nonsense. When kids go to school to learn safe spaces and what fucking pronouns to use, having college as a low water mark for commissioning is not serving the purpose you think it is.
The first thing that came to mind about no appointments during PT was my time in physical therapy… they preferred to schedule appt during early morning because it didn’t take troops away from their daily scheduled fun
Years ago I was in my first long term job as a teacher. When my probation was over they send me a new contract. I was so happy I put a smiley face net to my signature. They sent a memo to thousands of employees to say, "No smilies on documents." How stupid. One phone call and, "Don't do that" and they would have saved hundreds of dollars or whatever it cost to email, print out and slot thousands of "No smiley" letters.
At the former Ft. Lewis, in 1981, I had a prolonged cough that wasn't going away. It turned out I had a benign tumor in my right lung and had surgery at Madigan Army Hospital to have it removed! I could have had a biopsy but I was scared to do that so just went ahead and had the tumor completely cut out. Pathology showed the tumor was benign. Whew!
First day on my active duty base, second guy to introduce himself is Senior Airmen Cismowski, "Just call me Ski. And I only have one testicle. I only have one testicle because I went to medical and they felt a lump, and without any second opinion they decided to preform a biopsy and remove it ASAP. Turns out it was benign, and it likely didn't need to get removed at all. Now I have only one ball. Don't ever trust medical. What was your name again?"
I wish some of my team mates in the games I play followed “Death before dismount” instead of ditching their tanks or aircraft. So many games where the enemy steals our abandoned vehicles only to then wipe our team.
Had a similar experience in 09. CO of our ship told medical to turn all engineering department Sailors away while we were prepping for an upcoming inspection. And we are talking about 6 weeks in advance of the inspection. And our COC backed it.
I remember being in Iraq and some new LT from the Army got pissy with the 2/5 Marines for shouting “RETREAT” and “HELL”. He was talking to some O4/5 about how he was gonna talk to the 2/5’s leadership to have them stop. The O4/5 laughed and went “yeah I wouldn’t. They’ll drop kick you right out of their tent. Marines love their mottos”
I remember i got in trouble for saying i didnt like officers while i was at a headquarters battalion. I would rather be hazed then ever be in a headquarters battalion ever again.
Story time. Back in 2016 we were operating in Afghanistan as an Air Assault/Med-chase detachment, had a high value mission that was determined as "too high risk" by the task force commander for us and the group to perform. Seals and 160th are called in, all our mission planning that we and the sf guys did was handed over to them to which they built on. We, as the regional asset, hosted the seals and 160th guys in our LAMS (tent hangar) and office and assisted them in any way we could. These cats had just flown in from the states for this mission and were understandably exhausted and jet lagged so we took it upon ourselves to do any and everything for them so that this mission would be a success, let guys sleep in our office in the back of the LAMS since it was one of the few places with AC, got these guys hot plates from the dfac, provided parts/pieces for their aircraft out of our benchstock/supply, assisted with maintenance and when the operation finally happened we supplied medevac/med-chase coverage obviously. So...our PL (1LT who will not be named) had $10k-ish worth of propertybook items in our office and got upset about the door latch getting taped over by our guests. The latch got taped over because the door would lock on it's own and guys who were trying to sleep would get locked out, understandable. So the LT takes it upon himself to yell at this PO1 from the seal team about this issue, meanwhile there is literally millions of dollars worth of equipment from the seals/160th laid out in the "unsecured" area of the LAMS floor. We were not allowed to walk through our own AO and had to use the back door to our office after that, our WO's and NCO's smoothed things over, the door tape stayed on, LT had to keep using the office back door until they left.
AC, you should compile a book of stories submitted by veterans (and active members) of just funny and dump shit. IT would be a never ending series. Each volume could have sections on Shamming, Funny Discispline, No Shit There I was, or Commissioned Shenanigans and so on. Procceds to active/vet mental health programs (including WMR)... Coudl be a huge pull for the cause.
Reminds me a deacade or so in Australia the new head of the defense declared that no one should use any "death" themed names or images on vehicles of patches, as it was negative LOL.
@@dirusj4006 The old people yes, the younger generation not so much, another old story. I knew someone who would talk to new recruits, and for decades he would ask a question, until some young female got very upset with his question and the correct answer, and he was told to never repeat it again. his question, "What is your job in the military?" after many answers he would say, "Your job, directly or indirectly is to kill the enemy, and if you have a problem with that, it's not to late to leave"
A few months ago I received a counseling from my unit for picking my nose. Literally that’s it there is no other context to be had or needed. the NCO just found it disgusting. It was not in a formation I thought I was alone, and I was on work break.
Lol I had to counsel myself, because my ID card picture was to dark and the gate guard confiscated it, so I needed a counseling statement to get a new one. I wrote I will make sure ID center learns how to take pictures and I will never surrender my ID card without a fight!
My divisional chief when i was the lpo had one of my sailors write a counseling chit on himself for hazing himself (long story, but funny as heck, said sailor became an A school instructor with me later, and never lived it down with his class 😂)
I left the service right about the time that emails were becoming common and leadership was just becoming aware that they could instantly spread their various stupidities... how nice to see that nothing has changed!
I never served in the US Military. I did grow up next to an army base and spent a lot of time with vets from WW2 and almost every action since then. I've also had a lifelong interest in military history, written and oral, to understand the world and the qualities of brave men and women facing death in the service of their nation. There seems to be a constant theme through these histories and it is the dumbass decisions of people in leadership that were counterproductive and only serve to make people's lives miserable or show the level of IQ possessed by the leader. I would think at this point in leader development there would be a class on how not to look like an idiot while leading people, call it Bad Leadership and Dumbasses in Charge 101. Then make future leaders take it before they can graduate. Edit: Just realized some people don't have that person in their life to let them know their sh*t stinks and it shows.
And some officers and retired officers wonder why former enlisted that get out and go into law enforcement go above and beyond to not give them a break when encountered.
All my homies hate officers. At first I never really understood why other enlisted got mad whenever they got called sir, but then I realised that that these commissioned fucks are overpaid toddlers that do in fact not work at all while the rest of us fucking suffer. “Wahhh, I stay late sometimes doing admin paperwork”. Fuck you, so do I on top of unfucking all the problems that you create for me.
There is a base not far from me, and I end up pulling over a lot of military. You bet your ass I give every officer I encounter all the shit I can. My high score was a major who said he needed to get to base for "a critical meeting" and that's why he was speeding. The whole "national security spiel". He was an hour late for that "critical" meeting.
In the Navy, they start the day with the Daily Memo. A notice from command of all the important things that will go on that day. We once got a Daily Memo that stated there would be no Daily Memo that day.
Grab a "Death Before Dismount" sticker or shirt angry-cops.com/ and plaster it everywhere. - If you ain't Cav, then you ain't shit!
I will wear it proudly
I'd love to, except I can't because I'm a cav scout's mortal enemy.
"Death before dismount!!!!"
I'm no longer allowed to play on the tanks but one of these stickers will be going on my 1985 Chevy square body LOL.
19D hooah
The phrase “Should be respected as a lawful order” tells me right there that it is clearly not a lawful order.
"...shall not subject Soldiers to UCMJ action." at least tells me the LT is smart enough to know it will never pass legal muster. So we will handle all enforcement and punishment off the record.
@@LarryCurley Unless they use the word “Shall” as loosely as the rest of the government when it comes to the second amendment.
Hahahha... it's a "mandate"... hahaha
He is desperately hoping nobody up the chain hears about this.
YUUP.
Did anyone else see that the LTs memo was dated 25 Dec? So this fool is definitely "in charge" for Christmas. I would hope that when the company commander gets back from vacation, holds a formation and after welcoming everyone back, pulls this memo out of his back pocket rips it up while yelling "Death before Dismount"
Merry Freaking Christmas !
Yep, a good commander would definitely tear up the memo in front of everyone. We can call it a Public Shaming. In the past PSs happened.
He wrote it on 25 Dec. so he could get away with the stupid. Betcha. Wow dude....
and I would also like to point out that this moron is in the 1st BATTALION 160th BATTALION as seen in the header
Hands down the commander and 1SG was on Xmas leave and the XO had an assumption of Command and went crazy. Hell I bet the acting 1SG was a newly promoted Sgt that didn’t go on block leave 😂😂😂😂
I would write an essay on where “Death Before Dismount” came from and how it positively affects troops in combat.
thats is POB worthy
@AngryCops "POB in progress." "Good Job(patted), Good job(pat over)."
@@AngryCopsalso Hey AC, have you seen the News on the Law passed on Large Knives being dispose in UK.
Malicious compliance, love it.
That's why God made Chat-GPT. 10k words in less than a minute.
In the 1970's I served in the Australian Army and the 4 fighting corps were explained this way: "Engineers clear the mines to the objective, artillery suppresses the objective allowing armoured corp to transport the infantry to the object where they bayonet the wounded." Times have changed.
Savage, but accurate.
Badass… no wonder the Japanese were terrified to fight in New Guinea 😂
@@JoeRogansForeheadhate to break it to you but the japs weren’t scared of shit. They got nuked TWICE and still didn’t want to surrender until we bluffed and said we had a 3rd.
Yep, then Angus Campbell came along and said that the Army can’t use the word Spartan anymore because it’s ‘not professional’. Western Military’s have lost sight of what’s important.
This is a great example of the best rule of leadership I have ever heard. Never give an order you know won't be followed. NOBODY is going to follow this, so they will get used to ignoring this idiot, which means they will ignore him when it counts.
Not sure they will ignore him in the combat zone officers like him tend to be the reason Murphy's law of combat number 21 exists.
Depends on which list of the rules as to what number it is on the military quotes website it's listed as number one but it's simply "Friendly fire isn't"
@@brishanswords4952 I doubt something relatively minor like this would be enough to make that rule relevant, but I can't disagree.
@@brishanswords4952 I wasn't even necessarily referring to combat. As an XO he probably gives orders on a regular basis that actually are important, necessary, and relevant to actual readiness. If he starts giving orders like this the line gets blurred and eventually those orders start getting ignored too, which will actually cause real problems, as opposed to the imagined fantasy problem that he is trying to address here.
Which they probably should. This “leader” is stupid enough to get a lot of people de-alived thinking he’s some tactical genius who has not been discovered yet.
Makes me CRY - the level of butt-hurt prevention. I am OLD school - late in my career I was stuck as an Anti-Submarine Analyst on the Carrier for 2 years instead of FLYING - we worked hard at our job AND to stay in Rescue Swimmer shape (12 hour shift at a console)... ONE of the Rescue Swimmers put on POUNDS and we teased him - nicknamed him "StayPuff"... he got butt-hurt and whined to the Commodore late one evening
Commodore looked at him for a minute - "Stop your whining StayPuff". PRAISE the Good Old Days - then came the icing on the cake - the Commodore's Master Chief is standing there - grabs a phone and dials the CAG (Carrier Air Group) PR Shop (Flight Gear) and asks the PRC to embroider up a "StayPuff" nametag for the guy's flight suit - the Commodore just grinned and left.
Rescue Swimmer Humpty Dumpty...
I hear the fatties float better
You know she died a few years ago,didn't you?@@vrrooooommmm123
Fucking epic. The name tag pushes it into Legendary.
Lol, saw that while I was on the Tarawa. The good old days of service.
Good old HT1 "Firewall" because he was so big he could block the p-way top to bottom and side to side. But he didn't care he was on his last hitch before retiring, and cool as hell.
I had a commander who wanted me to reschedule a surgery of mine that I was waiting for 3 months. This was for a disease that was a major surgery to have and he was pissed that I didn't.
And this is why people leave the military.
Fuck that guy, get your self repaired.
I'll never understand that mindest
@@elix901 It's also why "accidents" happen during training... allegedly.
@@AngryCops believe me I don't either, I got 3 years left and I'm in the middle of a meb. It makes me almost want to take whatever deal they offer and get away from the BS
I think some people have to find things that are otherwise meaningless to justify their jobs, especially, LT's. Thanks AC.
Makes a lot of sense to me. Most desk jockeys
Yup... An Lt with a PowerPoint slide is dangerous.
Maybe once this could be attributed to the stupidity of LTs. But in the last few years I’ve seen many similar proclamations from all ranks, officer and enlisted, up to the GO level. The rot in the Army has become deep.
@@darkglass1 sounded much more betterest the 2nd time." I edited it "
That's a private sector issue.
My first Platoon Sergeant told us, “The most dangerous thing in the world is a Lieutenant with a Map and Compass. The next is a Captain with a plan!”
Man..... my Cap always had a plan. Fuckin sham tastic lol. He was good at leading but I honestly think he was a mustang. Dude would tell us to pop smoke at like 330 some times. He's an officer! Fucking go! 😂😂😂 (5 was usually the earliest though 6 was usually the latest).
Brand new Academy grad Lt at my first base (I was a brand new A1C in ‘98): outside almost crying because the NCO’s jacked up his lifted beast of a truck, put the tires on their sides, and set the truck back down on the rims (the jack stands were hidden behind the tires so it WAS supported). Everyone got a laugh, then the NCO’s (found out later, the ones who did it), walked up and helped the L.T. (What we called him) get everything straightened out… no joke, after that, that Lt turned into one of the best officers I ever worked with. He never gave anyone busy work, and was just flat out logical and real when it came to details (smokers, yes I was one at the time, were tasked with picking up butts in the parking lots), if you busted your ass all week, he sent you home by noon on Friday mission permitting… minimum once a month he BBQ’d for his troops, and all “voluntold” volunteer work, he and your supervisor were standing next to you. Amazing guy. 26 years later, only worked with him for 2 years at my first base and I still remember his name and what he looked like.
Just because some lieutenant walked in on his wife on top of some guy (probably a Marine)saying death before dismount, now nobody can say it? Bull 💩
So Alpha, Bravo and Delta can say "Death before Dismount"
Sounds like they might get a case of the shenanigans lol
A, B, C, 1SG's upon getting a whif of this, should have their companies sing out 'Death Before Dismount' at the Begining and Close of Business.
@@WhiskyCardinalWes I was thinking the same. They need to back this one by rubbing it in the face of then LT. Say it every chance they get to make him look like a fool.
Nah, the other 1st Sgts wouldn't do ....yeah, no, I couldn't finish typing that with a straight face. I'm pretty sure other units not in the Cav will be shouting it just to mess with the crazy lieutenant.
I would hope they scream it from the top of their lungs
Good fucking lord, some officers just need to be told to 'shut the fuck up'.
That is what the first sergeant does.
That would be just about all of them below the rank of 0-5.
@@CaesarInVaI would like to introduce you to the current resident of the mental asylum, formerly known as the White House. No rank is exempt from the need to be told to shut the fuck up these days.
@@OneTruePhreak The previous resident was twice as bad, too. Needed to be backhanded
@@CaesarInVaI wouldn’t say that. Under O-4 for sure. I’ve known some majors that were solid officers
To quote the new president of Argentina:
If the government printing money could solve inflation and poverty why doesn't just printing diplomas solve stupidity.
😂 That's quite possibly the greatest thing I've ever read. No notes
I've never served in the military, I have no idea how this channel even got recommended to me today, but this is easily one of the best recommendations TH-cam has given me in 10+ years. Today was my first day off work in just under 2 weeks, I've worked 258 hours spread across the last 30 days.. I'm a retail manager at a large home improvement chain and with Spring fast approaching things have been absolutely bonkers (coupled with some major personnel problems happening recently). Anyway, I needed these laughs so badly. I'm subbed and I can't wait to keep diving into your videos man!
Check out his video on the decommissioning of the ACU and his video on the 3m ear plugs. Those 2 are my favorite!
“Did you just say, Death before dismount?” “No no sir, I said “dismount after death!”
Cant forget Death before dishonour!
You win 😂
At this point there are neighborhood watches more capable of waging wars. I find it bizarre how an organisation that trains its people to deal death and destruction can be so "soft".
Great comment😂🤣😂
There's a video of a Ranger who called in his buddies to take on a neighborhood street gang that targeted him for setting up a neighborhood watch.
Well … we are probably better armed. We know who’s armed and who’s not. 😆
@@doughessonI may have to look for that one.
Probably even some HOAs
I got written up last night for a female coworker feeling unsafe by listening to me yell at the line lead and I’m the maintenance line lead. So she went to hr and told them I violated the hostile work policy because she listened to something that had nothing to do with her cause she’s been a production worker for 5 years . Now I’m probation and I can be fired for anything even if I’m innocent. You can’t say move your ass anymore or civilians will take your job please explain how people can get fired cause there feelings are hurt.
Welcome to the new world
Exactly peoples feelings are more important than our rights to free speech
Also got told I’m under investigation for 90 days and can be terminated at anytime
@@Dakota-dc5dt HR just loves to destroy effective workers to curtail for the ridiculous emotional sensibilities of women who aren’t involved. Welcome.
See you forgot the: MOVE YOUR ASS, please. With a smile and pat on the back when they do.
Messed up my shoulders while I was in, and someone in battalion had the same "great" idea to ban doctors appointment/sickcall in the mornings unless it was "the emergency room". But I was out of the muscle relaxers they had prescribed for the physical therapy course they put me on. They had told me to just come back and get more so my doctor could do a mid course checkup, and they had set the appointment for the same effective day as the new "no more appointments". So i called them and told them my command was barring appointments unless it was the emergency room, they went "okay, whats your pain scale right now? Is it interfering with daily life? Okay, go to the emergency room right now." Told my first sergeant they ordered me to the emergency room, and then went. Explained the same to them, they were like "stupid, but yeah theyre right this pain isnt normal". Took like 6 hours, come back with a quarters slip and writeup to hand them, and the muscle relaxors i needed to sleep.
At that point, my shoulders made audible grinding and pops whenever I moved them, and I had lost a large amount of mobility. Since ER visits are reportable to higher command, very suddenly they sent out a rush of emails saying "this policy was not meant to interfere with Servicemembers medical conditions, blah blah blah" it was just "to encourage servicemembers to discuss issues with their leadership beforehand" and all the other backpedelling im sure youll see if you get a follow up AC.
Doing this is always a GREAT idea, until you have to implement it, and suddenly you have to OWN it. Thats usually when all of a sudden you "misinterpreted" and they "just want to clear up some misconceptions about the new policy..." and "the old policy will be put into effect until clearer guidance on our intent is drafted and published"
The James Avery jewelry brand hired a safety manager from California, and one of his first acts was to put out a memo that people were not allowed to use hammers without proper safety training. There are people like these in the world some how walking and survivng.
Fun fact: The LT is almost always going to be outranked by the doctor. If the doctor wants you to come to an appt at PT time and you say no LT said you cant, the Captain or higher most military doctors are can override him and order you to appear which LT can't override.
My LT discovered this fact a few decades back. He wrote a policy saying we must answer the phone or call back within 30 minutes 24/7/365. Problem being aircrew have crew rest and maintenance crew have mandatory rest periods assigned by the highest ranking person in the military. So his new policy was illegal and if you followed it you're violating the UCMJ because you not only can't follow it, you're legally obligated to report it.
Fun Fact: in 2009, I was ordered mandatory bed rest for an entire week because I had Swine Flu. The guy who ordered this was a full bird Colonel, outranked every last person in 1-13th Cav.
Funner Fact: I had to report for every first formation of that week, and go see the medics at Sick Call to confirm that I was still sick with the diagnosis that actual doctors with decades of medical experience diagnosed me with. The first few days there was zero chance I'd pass a field sobriety test, but was still ordered to drive in.
Yeah, I could have pushed the issue about what orders superceded other orders, but PFCs don't do well when they go outside the chain of command to raise issues.
Fun fact: the medical prohibition came from a _battalion_ commander.
Fun Fact: In 2012 I got PRK eye surgery and was on 2 week con leave taking Percocet and I had to go in for a piss test. I refused to drive so they sent someone to get me. No shit, I pissed hot.
"Tell me you've never deployed without telling me you've never deployed." Truer words never spoken.
Yeah also - Tell me you were bullied in school without telling me you were bullied in school.
My fat PMC who was a corporal(its an E5 billet) could shoot from the 500 meter line standing and never miss. He was the embodiment of Death Before Dismount. Dude says he doesnt PT because he has a truck to drive him to combat.
Homies got a point
Fricken made me laugh out loud. I had a gunner like this. He was overweight, but saved his squad with cover fire twice. Then returned to Conus... and our CDR wanted to kick hi out.🙄
@@armynation31B5V5PI had a guy in my squad that was 6 foot eight and 280 pounds. He could do everything that was asked of him. He ran a high PFT, he could hike with the best of him and did an obstacle course in record time. However his body fat was 3 percent over what they wanted it to be. My company 1stsgt wanted to put him on weight control when this guy scored higher on PFTs than 1stsgt did. Then they wonder why retention is at an all time low
Dirtbag private once said “Cardio? We got trucks for that”
I looked up, "Death before dismount" and the unit that sent the memo. For tank crews the phrase is short for the longer command that means stay in your tank. For troop carriers it means to lay down cover fire while the troops exit the vehicle. The unit that got the memo is part of the California National Guard.
Commiefornia, that explains everything.
Figures
Yeah, as an MP it meant "we only operate as a squad sized element of 4 teams of 3, so the gun needs to always be manned because about half our firepower comes from those 4 crew served weapons"
Alternatively it was the way we complained about Friday ruck marches 😂
Hey Drill, we was told never to yell Geronimo when jumping out of a plane in ft. Benning, then when I was stationed in GTMO we was told never to say code red
This was the last nail in the coffin for the Coast Guard. There used to be an oft quoted quote from an adm (I believe), “the book says we have to go out, it doesn’t say a damn thing about coming back”. It gave everyone that gung-ho, can-do attitude that got things done. Once the the brass got on that “safety” kick, it killed the internal culture.
Oh man, when that video of the Coastie was banging on that submarine "Alto Su Barco!!" Admin was fucking LIVID! THE HORROR! that's a breach of safety policy!! I'm 100% certain that they would've tried to kick him out and reprimand everyone. HOWEVER it was recorded, it spread viral like wildfire and because of the overwhelming positive praise they had no choice but to smile and say Bravo Zulu shipmate! (whispering: you got lucky this time). At least that's what I believe.
We still said it, lol. I made sure to say it at my retirement and the bullshit CO I had looked like he just sucked a lemon.
And they wonder why recruitment and reenlistment is at its lowest 😂
One wonders if the intention is being mistaken for a side-effect.
@@Stevarooni that’s also a possibility
who doesn't want to lose their legs for 3700 a month.. sounds fun.. Or maybe some ptsd..
This next draft is going to be a shit show.
@@ds29912 This comment is so understated! I have a TON of popcorn on standby to eat while watching said SHITSHOW! The protests alone will be epic!
22 year retired Navy Senior Chief here. I remember running with new Chiefs and calling cadence and one of the female "chiefs" got upset because the cadence was making fun of other branches of service. I knew right then that we were fucked.......
Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. We are in the weak men phase.......
Weak times is an understatement currently
Senior I completely hear and feel ya there.
Former MM2 here, had something similar happen with my command when we got some fresh kids outta boot and a new female MM3 in the division and we did the same training drills and cadences. Some were complaining up the chain, "we can't make fun of other branches" and "you need to be more sensitive to our feelings".
At that point I understood why my DI requested to be sent back to the fleet early if this was the new quality of Sailor we were putting into service.
I got out early in 2005 as this bs was coming to light.
Its why we must not forget our history and be accurate with it..
Now with tearing down monuments and rewriting history based on feels we have people who are not worried about bringing back the evil..
To them power doesn't come with a cost..
As longbas they get more power they dont think about how such thing's have turned out before..
Just look at the politics this year...
The messing with other countries until a another war starts..
The mass support of Genocide and Communism...
wow, haven't been called Senior in a while. @@Garviel.Loken.Knight.Errant.
Yes, this generation of weak men is the result of the "lets not harm thier self-esteem" generation.
Not to mention the full pads and helmits to ride a bycycle generation.
2 things you never let a "Butter Bar" have access to 1) compass or 2) printer
There's a reason I'm a veteran and no longer active duty.
The fee-fee's are winning the battle, and our military will absolutely be less lethal because of it.
ARMY: Death before dismount is disrespectful!
Meanwhile....
MARINES: Running down a busy road on Camp Lejeune during morning PT singing cadence about killing, pussy, and blood.
😂😅
Do not forget the little yellow bird. SEMPER FI.
@@michaels.starnes194 👍 Semper Fi!
Blood makes the Grass Grow!
I bet the LT made that memo when he was in temporary command. All the company commanders I ever had would never allow that to pass.
All the LTs I know would never allow that to pass 😂
Was written on Christmas, so I bet that XO got an Assumption of Command Memo for rear d and felt like a God
I have dealt with generals who would write that in a heartbeat. I recall the general in charge of the Pacific issuing an order that "sexual activity of any kind is prohibited in the barracks" thus making beating off a criminal offense.
Dated 25th of Dec, so you might be onto something.
@thorinpalladino2826 imagine getting court martialed for rubbing one out in the barracks ahhahaa
1LT here… I didn’t know whether to cry in shame or laugh in hysteria or get ticked at the sheer stupidity of that first lieutenant.
yes
On behalf of all XOs, STOP THE MEMOS. Any 1LT who voluntarily writes an unnecessary memo clearly needs to go back and repeat O-1 because they didn't learn anything.
As an armor officer I full heartedly agree with everything you had to say about the “Death before dismount” memo.
My God, how embarrassing!
That's not a Lt., that's an infiltrator. A commissar for a foreign interest.
That's pretty much the majority of the officer corps these days.
They already took control, buddy.
Quisling is the word you seek.
It’s called the Frankfurt school and after infiltrating all our regular universities they infiltrated the military ones. The long march through the institutions.
@@Br1cht And we just handed over the fucking keys..
WRT medical. When I was active duty I participated in dozens of triathlons. Following a specific triathlon I started to feel really bad and began puking my guts out. Went to medical, they immediately put me in morpheme and took out a burst appendix within an hr. They didn’t even want to wait for any arthroscopic, but just cut me open to save time. My commanding officer was denying my required convalescence leave because “he intentionally gave himself his appendicitides by participating in triathlons to get out of work.” They literally were expecting me to show up the next day. Luckily the surgeon was an O6, who called the O5 and ripped him a new one. The surgeon was so disgusted and had a good conversation with me after I woke up. That CO would later be fired after I had left due to abhorrent command climate issues.
The one thing I will never ever fucking miss is the obscene amount of memos. Be it the constant changing formats or just the sheer amount of the fuckers.
Makes you wonder how many trees were destroyed just for the memos
@@Gamer1990100just think about it for a moment. Every single memo is printed and reprinted, and signed off, by multiple hierarchies of stupid motherfuckers, before it eventually trickles down to the enlisted ranks. If these are the ones that get approved, just imagine the numbers of idiotic ideas actually being proposed and processed on a daily basis. It must be an absolute mountain of drool-inducing dumbassery being put to paper.
😂😂😂 all levels of government love paperwork. I have yet to see a government desk without an inbox and outbox crammed full of nonsensical b.s.'ery! 😂😂
Hey. It's not right to call the memo writers fuckers. According to HR. I have the memo to prove it if you like me to forward it to you......😂
WTF? 1-160th is National Guard. How do they have an officer like that!?
"Perishing Over Bailing" There ya go, new motto
You can’t tell me the new army is mentally ready for the stress of the real world.
They aren’t ready for shit in the real world. They all live in make believe land. Worse than Barbie World.
The people that are joining now are typically the people that couldn’t handle the civilian world (aside from actual patriots fighting for country) because it pays for college and food and tells them what to do.
Ps. Never served myself, working govt retirement management mainly bc it pays more and does things I agree with more. Unfortunately the military does things those doing the things don’t want to do
The new army can't handle the stress of anything
I can tell you they are. Doesn't mean I'm right:)
@@GiznoFux yellow card!
Something tells me we aren’t going to fair too well in this next global conflict.
In fairness, thats not a bad thing. We wont ever suffer an invasion, and the lack of readiness to apply "democracy" at gunpoint to any country that wants to exist means we arent capable of starting another forever war.
Well the messing around for more power has created new enemies..
That has lead to those enemies working togther with others to bypass one of the biggest ways we keep power, the US Dollar..
We have gone from everyone having to use the US dollar for oil etc.. To the countries we pissed off to working togther with their own currency..
Other countries will do a lot to work with the strongest super power but they will only go so far..
If you keep pushing and pushing for more than you turn into the bully they fight back against..
What do you mean next one? We just lost the last one in Afghanistan!
The real question is, which conflict is coming first? One abroad, or one at home?
Sadly i know of the shenanigans of the 1-18 Cav. That 1LT's memo wreaks of (in nasally voice)"I graduated from ROTC, where my major was poly sci. I went for a cav spot because i wanted to prove myself."
I was a tanker in D Co. 2-70. If that happened at C 2-70, Top would have told us to sound off with "Death Before Dismount!" at every formation. Loved that guy.
Happy Saturday everyone!!!!! Thanks AC!!
The battalion commander is copying the standards of the VA.
If we wait until they kick the bucket while waiting, we don't have to help them. -VA
As a former Company grade officer I’m embarrassed. Luckily as a Company Commander I never let my LTs do stupid shit. But I also was a former enlisted as well so I knew better lol… great episode 👍🏻🇺🇸🫡
You are proving my point of all officers needing enlistment before commissioning
My 2 pennies, need a stronger SNCO Corps to 'correct' the junior Commissioned Officers before they get on the radar of the Company Commander.
@@hateferlife yes. However too many SNCOs would rather advance their careers than look after their soldiers.
Green to gold! Man loved you officers. As a patriot missle system operator i dealt with many butter bars. Of the 63 i helped train or worked with on the system, 19 wrre green to gold and i spotted them all before they told me. Every soldier worth a damn could spot you and would die for our green to gold officers!! Thank you sir!!
What in the HELL is going on with you ARMY??? ☹ Is there any wonder that NO ONE is volunteering for service??? 🙄
As someone who is in the same brigade as 4-10 CAV. The no appointment from 0630 to 0730 was also a thing in my battalion.
@@djfive-seven563 same
HAZING IS IMPORTANT! im happy i got my experience when i look at all the other shit comin through. Military is for tough people or for people who want to become tough. DONT LOWER THE STANDARD!
We all love our guy Angry Big C, happy new years everyone.
Me, who has no emotional investment: “Death before dismount!”
XO: “ Hey, you can’t say that!”
Me: *laughs in DD214*
I remember the fun we used to have with fresh butter bars back in the day (Army 2000-2013). One is a Maj now and still gets a subscription to Playgirl Magazine delivered to his office from time to time. 😅
"IF YOU AINT RED HORSE YOU AINT SHIT"
- Jack Mandaville, Red Horse Veteran
Think of it this way, the XO just provided all the other PL’s the opportunity to exhibit good leadership characteristics
This is 100% where my mind went. The best teacher for an officer is a TERRIBLE officer above them trying to shit on their soldiers.
So instead of “Death Before Dismount,” they should fuck with the LT and say “Un-alive Before Un-ride,” or “Kill Before Crawl,” or “Fatality Before Feet,” or “Wasted Before Walking.”
Same spirit of the expression without using the exact words.
Just cue the malicious compliance.
I remember I had a 1LT cry to the commander (USAF) because I said the words "What are you talking about?" on the phone as I was preparing the entire base for a MAJCOM audit and didn't know what little stupid acronym she made up meant and what she was on about. It was deemed disrespectful...so I had to have paperwork written up, and when I told my boss as he gave me the paperwork, that she told me she didn't know how it got to this point, he sat me down and told me she demanded to the 1SGT I get paperwork.
As we sat down for my reprimand, he was reading the document, and got to the point of this is unbecoming of...he stopped, said I thought i removed this, went back o his desk and removed it. It basically said I should not have talked to the LT in this manner, and didn't say anything about the behavior or any repeated offenses or any of the typical crap. He told me later on as he put in for retirement, that they threatened him if he didn't comply. He retired not that long after.
AETC or AFMC? I can see that kind of BS from either one...
Spot On Brother and Thank You! 😐
Love you! Marine widow. He really liked you. Thank you, God bless you. You are spot on.
I was the only medic (Senior SPC lol) for my Company while stationed at Ft. Carson but my unit had the best medical readiness in the whole BN. My secret? I told soldiers to make their apts during PT hours. Blew their minds and it worked. ... Did I somehow cause this memo half a decade later? Who knows.
These examples being read (revisited) brought back the entire 1980’s for me. Going to double my blood pressure meds for the day.
I know this LT. There's one in every battalion (usually). He likely carries a riding crop, has Guderian books on a shelf in his office, lots of model tanks in his office, hides premature balding with a well shaved head (sorry AC, just a coincidence), and often wears shiny, black leather gloves in the field even on hot days, along with those really, really high strapped Danner cav boots and perhaps even smokes a weird looking, thin black cigar or cigarette and maybe even a uses a cigarette holder at times. He also has a military history vignette to support all his policies and edicts and uses the occasional german military term in idle conversation, and will rise to the top up to the rank of major at which time his career will crash and burn in flames when the colonels and generals realize he is a huge liability to their career and units' readiness.
LOL we had this guy as well. He wore a cav hat in uniform every Friday and the CSM and 1SGs yelled at him for it. They gave up on him. The soldiers loved him because he was truly sincere in his derangement and wasnt mean spirited and actually liked soldiers. But he made BZ to major and yup, retired as a MAJ at 20.
Love you brother! Great stuff!
Saw you on Donutoperator and I am in love with you guys
You make me laugh but the training videos and all the help you all give to our officers and soldiers is amazing to me.
Thank you for your service and just being a bad ass
Holy crap 07:30-09:30 for PT.....we had already did Company formation, PT, eaten Breakfast, cleaned the common areas and have been on the job for over an hour by 08:00
Yup, 0430,, in PT formation. Waiting for revelry.
@@Crypticnunce where were you stationed?..
@@ranger51262 Benning, oh I'm sorry, Moore🤣🤣🤣, Fck that, it's Benning.
And I'm gonna guess 3rd batt, you were RGT, I was over at Garrison. Nothing like getting new recruits, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was up on Kelly,..🍻
You can't fix stupid, but you can stifle it with the proper application of duct tape.
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
Oh you can fix it, but you better have a damn good lawyer, a sympathetic jury, and a common sense judge at your trial!
@@82ndAbnVet
Ahhh... Agreed.
If you take Stupid to the vet I am sure you can get him fixed.
And people wonder how vets get out broken and nothing ends up in the medical records. You have guys like this who think getting hurt is a personal attack on them.
When I was in the Army, the biggest thing we worried about was using the proper MARKS number when writing memos.
I got counseled by my supervisor because he thought I was faking calling in sick to stretch out my weekends. He said "25% of your sick days are on Monday or Friday, and that is suspicious". I pointed out that 40% of the work week is a Monday or Friday, and asked if he wanted me to call in sick on Monday/Friday more often to even it out. He did not seem pleased, but decided to let the matter drop.
Pffft who needs medical appointments when we got motrin and dry socks
Don’t forget water private
If it is absolutely necessary, I suppose we do also have a pair of crutches you can use.
This is why a college degree should never have to be the main thing behind becoming an officer. Some of these officers come from colleges where they are taught to be soft, weak people.
I can't agree with that to a certain extent. Officers should go through college because it gives them a deeper educational background as well as furthering their problem solving skills. However, they should go through military colleges. They are much less involved in politics than civilian colleges and actually produce officers that are fully bought in on the military and don't enter the force as a political officer.
@@davidmarsh7933 ha.
Colleges haven't given _anyone_ "deeper educational backgrounds" or further their "problem solving skills" in a very long time.
Make them play chess thats definitely a better way to learn problem solving than a degree
@@DH-xw6jp We have plenty of structures built recently that haven't collapsed. Because those college educated engineers were taught problem solving skills.
@@davidmarsh7933 Nonsense. When kids go to school to learn safe spaces and what fucking pronouns to use, having college as a low water mark for commissioning is not serving the purpose you think it is.
That new sticker design is awesome! I give it until then end of next month you'll see those posted on every Cav motorpool toolbox in the military
And I am hoping we are going to see pictures of that with the next angry meme review😂
The first thing that came to mind about no appointments during PT was my time in physical therapy… they preferred to schedule appt during early morning because it didn’t take troops away from their daily scheduled fun
Years ago I was in my first long term job as a teacher. When my probation was over they send me a new contract. I was so happy I put a smiley face net to my signature. They sent a memo to thousands of employees to say, "No smilies on documents." How stupid. One phone call and, "Don't do that" and they would have saved hundreds of dollars or whatever it cost to email, print out and slot thousands of "No smiley" letters.
At the former Ft. Lewis, in 1981, I had a prolonged cough that wasn't going away. It turned out I had a benign tumor in my right lung and had surgery at Madigan Army Hospital to have it removed! I could have had a biopsy but I was scared to do that so just went ahead and had the tumor completely cut out. Pathology showed the tumor was benign. Whew!
So... basically "coughing up a lung" was REAL for you. Noice!
First day on my active duty base, second guy to introduce himself is Senior Airmen Cismowski, "Just call me Ski. And I only have one testicle. I only have one testicle because I went to medical and they felt a lump, and without any second opinion they decided to preform a biopsy and remove it ASAP. Turns out it was benign, and it likely didn't need to get removed at all. Now I have only one ball. Don't ever trust medical. What was your name again?"
"It is better to let everyone think you are an idiot than it is to open your mouth and prove them right".
Just like the Chinese proverb: it is better for a man to stay silent then to open his mouth and be thought of as a fool. Lmfao! 😂
isn't 1/160 INF a California National Guard unit? So apropos...
Given the state of the military, I am kinda surprised that punishment for saying or writing "Death Before Dismount" does not involve the USCMJ!
@AngryCops please make a video on your expectations of and advice to young officers and PLs. We need it.
Of all the things Army leadership could be focusing on and they choose these hills to climb.
I wish some of my team mates in the games I play followed “Death before dismount” instead of ditching their tanks or aircraft. So many games where the enemy steals our abandoned vehicles only to then wipe our team.
Send that lieutenant to the front line
Thats right up there with the memo about making sure you dont blow up your .50 cals
Had a similar experience in 09. CO of our ship told medical to turn all engineering department Sailors away while we were prepping for an upcoming inspection. And we are talking about 6 weeks in advance of the inspection. And our COC backed it.
I remember being in Iraq and some new LT from the Army got pissy with the 2/5 Marines for shouting “RETREAT” and “HELL”. He was talking to some O4/5 about how he was gonna talk to the 2/5’s leadership to have them stop. The O4/5 laughed and went “yeah I wouldn’t. They’ll drop kick you right out of their tent. Marines love their mottos”
I remember i got in trouble for saying i didnt like officers while i was at a headquarters battalion. I would rather be hazed then ever be in a headquarters battalion ever again.
Self care is important for mental health and just taking care of yourself is important.
Story time. Back in 2016 we were operating in Afghanistan as an Air Assault/Med-chase detachment, had a high value mission that was determined as "too high risk" by the task force commander for us and the group to perform. Seals and 160th are called in, all our mission planning that we and the sf guys did was handed over to them to which they built on. We, as the regional asset, hosted the seals and 160th guys in our LAMS (tent hangar) and office and assisted them in any way we could. These cats had just flown in from the states for this mission and were understandably exhausted and jet lagged so we took it upon ourselves to do any and everything for them so that this mission would be a success, let guys sleep in our office in the back of the LAMS since it was one of the few places with AC, got these guys hot plates from the dfac, provided parts/pieces for their aircraft out of our benchstock/supply, assisted with maintenance and when the operation finally happened we supplied medevac/med-chase coverage obviously. So...our PL (1LT who will not be named) had $10k-ish worth of propertybook items in our office and got upset about the door latch getting taped over by our guests. The latch got taped over because the door would lock on it's own and guys who were trying to sleep would get locked out, understandable. So the LT takes it upon himself to yell at this PO1 from the seal team about this issue, meanwhile there is literally millions of dollars worth of equipment from the seals/160th laid out in the "unsecured" area of the LAMS floor. We were not allowed to walk through our own AO and had to use the back door to our office after that, our WO's and NCO's smoothed things over, the door tape stayed on, LT had to keep using the office back door until they left.
Unalive before dismount
AC, you should compile a book of stories submitted by veterans (and active members) of just funny and dump shit. IT would be a never ending series. Each volume could have sections on Shamming, Funny Discispline, No Shit There I was, or Commissioned Shenanigans and so on. Procceds to active/vet mental health programs (including WMR)... Coudl be a huge pull for the cause.
Love this idea!!
Okay, this sounds like it could go places.
Vet TV is a thing. There's a lot of shenanigans and documentaries.
The memo was issued on Christmas Day. Did this guy not get the right amount of Robux he asked Santa for or something?
Reminds me a deacade or so in Australia the new head of the defense declared that no one should use any "death" themed names or images on vehicles of patches, as it was negative LOL.
It’s still like that… apparently vampire squids on t-shirts are offensive
Do they know military in general doesn't provoke thoughts of sunshine and lollipops?
@@dirusj4006 The old people yes, the younger generation not so much, another old story. I knew someone who would talk to new recruits, and for decades he would ask a question, until some young female got very upset with his question and the correct answer, and he was told to never repeat it again.
his question, "What is your job in the military?" after many answers he would say, "Your job, directly or indirectly is to kill the enemy, and if you have a problem with that, it's not to late to leave"
A few months ago I received a counseling from my unit for picking my nose.
Literally that’s it there is no other context to be had or needed. the NCO just found it disgusting. It was not in a formation I thought I was alone, and I was on work break.
Lol I had to counsel myself, because my ID card picture was to dark and the gate guard confiscated it, so I needed a counseling statement to get a new one. I wrote I will make sure ID center learns how to take pictures and I will never surrender my ID card without a fight!
My divisional chief when i was the lpo had one of my sailors write a counseling chit on himself for hazing himself (long story, but funny as heck, said sailor became an A school instructor with me later, and never lived it down with his class 😂)
I left the service right about the time that emails were becoming common and leadership was just becoming aware that they could instantly spread their various stupidities... how nice to see that nothing has changed!
I never served in the US Military. I did grow up next to an army base and spent a lot of time with vets from WW2 and almost every action since then. I've also had a lifelong interest in military history, written and oral, to understand the world and the qualities of brave men and women facing death in the service of their nation. There seems to be a constant theme through these histories and it is the dumbass decisions of people in leadership that were counterproductive and only serve to make people's lives miserable or show the level of IQ possessed by the leader. I would think at this point in leader development there would be a class on how not to look like an idiot while leading people, call it Bad Leadership and Dumbasses in Charge 101. Then make future leaders take it before they can graduate.
Edit: Just realized some people don't have that person in their life to let them know their sh*t stinks and it shows.
The courses only serve to create company men,yes men, and politicians
Any NCO who tattles to this boot louie about Death Before Dismount, is the absolute bluest of blue falcons.
And some officers and retired officers wonder why former enlisted that get out and go into law enforcement go above and beyond to not give them a break when encountered.
All my homies hate officers. At first I never really understood why other enlisted got mad whenever they got called sir, but then I realised that that these commissioned fucks are overpaid toddlers that do in fact not work at all while the rest of us fucking suffer.
“Wahhh, I stay late sometimes doing admin paperwork”. Fuck you, so do I on top of unfucking all the problems that you create for me.
There is a base not far from me, and I end up pulling over a lot of military.
You bet your ass I give every officer I encounter all the shit I can. My high score was a major who said he needed to get to base for "a critical meeting" and that's why he was speeding. The whole "national security spiel".
He was an hour late for that "critical" meeting.
In the Navy, they start the day with the Daily Memo. A notice from command of all the important things that will go on that day.
We once got a Daily Memo that stated there would be no Daily Memo that day.
I have been a sub for like 4-5 years. This is your finest work to date. You are quickly becoming a national treasure my dude. Carry on!
9:15 starts the most legendary rant I have ever seen. AC is not pleased at this point.