My Trinity+ is still going strong. I bought it in 1996 and wrote the Duke Nukem Total Meltdown soundtrack with it, and it's still my master keyboard is it's so playable.
Oh wow, that's awesome to see you here - I love the soundtrack to that version of the game! Glad to hear you still use your Trinity, it's still a wonderful piece of kit and you did great work with it back then.
@@SpeedySPCFan Ha, thanks. I think it was a bit Marmite - most of the Americans didn't like it because it wasn't rock, but the Europeans did because it wasn't rock, haha.
@@MarkTDKKnight Hah, figures. Honestly I've played enough of Duke 3D on the PC that a different version of the soundtrack was very welcome in my book :p I'm curious, do you happen to remember what else you used when writing the soundtrack? Listening to it now I definitely hear the Trinity in it, and I think a drum loop from the Methods of Mayhem sample CD by Sounds Good AB in "Spacey".
@@SpeedySPCFan There was lots of Methods through out the soundtrack, yes... I had a Kurzweil K2500r on sample playback duties, and a Yamaha RM50 drum module - drums were dealt with by all three though, the Trinity, Kuzzie and Yamaha.
@@MarkTDKKnight Oh, awesome! Thanks for answering. I thought some of the drums sounded awesome but nothing like the Kurzweil or Trinity, that would explain it - so thanks for fueling my gear lust just a bit more, now I have some RM50 auctions to keep an eye out on! :p
Cool. A friend of mine had one of these in the 90s, he spent all of his savings to be the cool kid for some months ;-) The sounds made our jaws drop, for sure.
This is a very comprehensive video about Trinity. These were the most exciting times. Yamaha VL1, Technics WSA1, and then this with its Prophecy card. Acoustic physical modeling galore.
Finally someone makes a good video focused on the Trinity. Most people just focus on the triton and see it was the first one to have the touch view type display. Are used to have a V3 Pro X model and I loved it. After I got my later workstation, which was an M50 I let a family member borrow my Trinity, they left it plugged in during an electrical storm and I believe the board got fried. So I happen to find a good deal on a TR Rack because there were just some of the sounds that the Trinity model that I had had included that I just could not imagine doing without anymore. I mean it’s combinations are so massive. It has such a great sound for that time period. I don’t believe it was the first 48K synthesizer, I believe that went to the Alessi’s Quadrasynth. But still. 48K was very good sampling back in the mid-1990s.
Man,your videos is fantastic and very very very...very cool! Really love this channel! It's really rare type of content on TH-cam. It's Quality Content. About Synths. Please do not throw your channel. I’ve been looking for a channel about old synthesizers for so long. And I found even more) Thank you for all! P.S OMG!!!!! UNATCO COVER IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!
I've been trying to figure out what Alexander used on the OST for Unreal... Now I know, finally :). Anyways, fantastic job here Speedy. It's great that you put so much effort into these vids, it makes the videos far more enjoyable and interesting to watch.
2023 still going strong, just completely stripped it, back to pristine condition. Bought in 99 in Beijing and it had a broken end panel which was finally fixed with epoxy and colour matched with Humbrol/Airfix paint. Looking forward to many years of good use.
Triton is the sound of hip-hop (really a bunch of hip-hop stuff simply asks for the Triton). Trinity is the sound of heaven in your ears. To answer specifically why: it's the filters. Effects not so much, specifically the filters are leaps and bounds better than those on Triton. Also Triton seems to have a lower headroom, which makes it push the output stage harder, which then compresses things in a way that worked for that hip-hop crowd. But it doesn't work for motion sounds that Trinity is known for :) I own a TR-Rack and yeah, it's only editable from the computer, but man it sounds tremendous even after all these years. The only other thing comparable sound quality-wise from those times would be a Kurzweil K2500.
NO PORTAMENTO on Trinity, so misspoke at 43:53 ! (Solo-Tri Prophecy synth card and MOSS-Tri Z1 synth card both have portamento, as does regular Triton.)
The 32 notes of polyphony was perhaps the Trinity's biggest con at the time when the likes of Roland JV and XP series, Ensoniq MR series, Alesis Quadrasynthe and Yamaha MU series were releasing instruments with 64 notes of polyphony. I spoke to a Korg representative in Australia at the time who said that what the competition was doing with 4 oscillators per voice, Korg was doing with only 2 oscillators with the large amount of DSP also contributing to the true multi timbral fx capabilities that none of the competition could compete with in the mid 90s. I owned both a Trinity Plus and TR Rack and I loved the extra sounds available in the module thanks to the extra 8mb of waveform ROM including much improved piano samples and a stack of new excellent drum sounds that found themselves later in the 1999 Triton. Sadly the Triton didn't get those improved piano sounds though.
Seeing as I don't have a lot of space for keyboards, I'm interested in the rack version. You mentioned it has an upgraded soundbank, but does that mean it still has the factory Trinity sounds the keyboard versions come with?
i have 3 Trinity, 2 still like new, all getting polarizer problem on the screen though since they are old ... still, i love them very much.. the sounds are amazing and the keys action is just marvelous... i'll keep them all... i just like them very much..
The Trinity touch screen did lag but I just got used to it. The Triton's touch screen GUI was a massive improvement over the Trinity's. The Triton also allowed its LFOs to be synced to MIDI clock, something that the Trinity was sadly lacking. The Yamaha FS keybed feels fabulous to play and was way better than the unweighted Roland keybeds at the time IMHO. My now sold T3EX, O1WFD, Trinity Plus and Triton Classic all had that same fantastic keybed. I rarely used the Trinity's sequencer although I used the Triton's sequencer and really loved its simplicity.
Nice Video Speedy DTM, Good Moves. Yeah, this seems like the sort of workstation I'd snag. The Effects and Modulation sections are the areas one could conceptually wring a good helping of mileage out of. They probably didn't think of a Decimation/Downsampling effect in the 90s :^)
@@madness8556 I hope they will, but I'd much rather see them provide an official DW6000/8000 plugin. 01/W isn't THAT much different from M1 apart from the waveshaping part. I don't see them doing the M3. Radias in the box would be cool, though!
@@EvilDragon666 well said. I was very surprised that Korg released Triton Extreme as a separate plug in as opposed to updating the actual Triton plug in with the extra Triton Extreme features and sounds. The M1 plug in has all the T series sounds and features.
I liked the video 2 seconds in and I didn't regret it ! At the beginning I was like - Damn I know these chord and it surely was - Interlude II from Unreal: Return to NaPali, one of the best songs I know. In general Unreal Soundtrack is the music of my life and I fall asleep to it every single night. Thank you so so much for amazing video!!!!
The game hasn't held up that well but man that soundtrack. Unreal (+ return to na pali), Unreal Tournament, and Deus Ex. 3 greatest PC game soundtracks of all time.
Hey Speedy. Excellent, honest review focused on the Trinity👍. I actually got mine just today (V2 -with Pbs-Tri installed; a nice surprise), mostly inspired your video & my memories testing one in a music store when the Trinitys were new. I also got a Z1 & Prophecy; don't know if I'll be needing to change my Pbs-board to Moss board.. tempting tho (; . Btw I enjoy watching All your synth reviews. You have a pro approach(: 👍.
Here are a couple of baffling about the Korg Trinity: I own 4 and each one of them has the same problem. When using various Organ Patches and applying internal Roto-Simulator for fast and slow Vibrato these Keyboards at times only offer half of the effect, thus washing out the entire Organ Tone. It is frustrating, because most Repair Guys do not know the cause or how to fix this problem. Can you help?
That was a nice Korg Triton extreme there in the background. Subed from Woody's channel! I was looking at the TR-rack today... because of your video I'm not going to entertain the thought of one. On a different note...I wonder if the adat out would let you do all 8 voices in a combi layer...or if it is just stereo. Edit: I just want to say, your technical review is 100%. Even though most people don't care about CPU data sheets and the compression ratios of the samples...I do. Thank you for taking the time to research all of it.
Hi there, you know when using the Trinity’s sequencer, why does the program sound I chose not have any of the effects applied like it does in the dedicated program section? Any ideas? Just not sure. Thank you.
The M1 distorted guitar has to be one of the most hideous guitar emulations to ever grace a keyboard IMHO! On the other hand, the nylon guitar sound was a keeper at the time!
I've got Trinity with MOSS and also Z1. They sound slightly different of course. Trinity has a deeper and more rounded bass which is not always an advantage - Z1 is capable of more subtle harmonics, especially with resonance turned up, which makes some pads sound crispier and more detailed in mid and high frequency range. I managed to transfer all my favourite patches from Z1 to Trinity with Moss. Most sound identical, a few lack forementioned sonic subtleties. Had Triton Extreme and sold it - sounded dull and muddy to me, shame on Korg for what they did to the filter. Old Trinity beats it and Kronos soundwise. The filters sing with a bit of resonance - something Triton cannot do. Triton has much sweeter strings though - thanks to larger and updated samples. Anyway, Trinity is a great pad machine, especially with MOSS and 8 mb of my own, carefully selected Roland and EMU waveforms. So much gear, so little time.
@@metanoja9804 MOSS is pure multi-modeling synth (not PCM-based) with distinct advantage of generating dynamics and expressiveness. Simply sampling its sound will lose much of that (similar to sampling acoustic piano without multisampling, velocity layers, etc.). You could use sampler's synth parameters to compensate for some of that loss, but it's time-intensive. Beyond that, because MOSS has 13 different modeling algorithms, multitimbrality allows layering full programs based on those different engines. Otherwise you have to dance around that by multitracking on DAW, certainly not optimal. So, I think the Z1 and Triton multitimbral MOSS is a BIG advantage to the monotimbral Trinity MOSS. Another disadvantage is the MOSS board (unlike Solo/Prophecy board) does not have its own CPU, instead relying on the Trinity's already-taxed CPU (slow screen redraws and touch response, even without MOSS) , whereas the Triton has a much faster CPU.
@@ShallRemainUnknown I am aware of all shortcomings of Trinity. CPU performance is not what I am after. I simply prefer the sound of its filters, 48k samples combined with MOSS in combis and output stage to later models. Period. If multitimbrality is your game, stick with your choices and enjoy making music.
Hi, great video, but I did not understand one thing: on Trinity can sound be mediated in real time? Like changing the Portamento like on Triton and little sisters? It is important to me because I use MOOG
Hey Speedy, I'm just asking about this, what's your opinion on the kontact player thing? Do you like it or hate it? If so tell me and also tell me why. ;) also I've had fl studio and lmms, but i can't connect a piano keyboard to a pc. Do you think I should try that?
Kontakt Player is really just a sound engine, I don't have many thoughts on it besides disliking Native Instruments as a company for their monopolistic and careless business practices - but a lot of the sound libraries on it are great! I'd probably try that~!
Thanks for the video. I got a question for anyone here: I've had this keyboard since 1996. I had it in storage for about 9 years and finally took it out and started to playback my old tracks with it. Now, How do I get those tracks into my Logic Pro X so i can have a digital version of all my tracks?
Audio: load the songs onto your Trinity, connect the audio output of the Trinity to your audio interface and Mac, press record in Logic Pro, then play on the Trinity. MIDI: save SMF files (Standard MIDI Files) of the songs on your Trinity to either a floppy disc or SCSI storage, then find a way to connect that to a computer you can transfer data to and from.
I sold my Trinity Plus to buy a Triton when it came out in 1999. There were obvious improvements in the Triton such as the almost doubled 62 note polyphony, much improved effects routing, built in sampler, 2 more outputs with better routing, LFOs that synchronised to MIDI clock, a better built in sequencer, dual arpeggiators and more responsive touch screen operations. However the overall sound certainly wasn't better and the Triton's filters were certainly inferior. Many of the factory acoustic instrument programs such as the acoustic piano, strings, saxes and nylon string guitar were much better in the Trinity IMHO. Its ribbon was also pressure sensitive unlike the Triton's ribbon controller. I later got a TR Rack that had those much improved pianos and many more drum kits and I came to the conclusion that the Trinity sounded 'better' than the Triton. I also owned an 18 voice polyphonic Korg Z1 and it's MOSS sound was definitely better than the Prophecy Solo TRI board in the Trinity Plus. I later had the 6 voice MOSS board in my Korg Triton Classic and it certainly didn't sound as good as the Z1. I didn't use the Trinity Plus sequencer much because I had an Atari Mega 4 running C Lab Notator Plus and found the Trinity sequencer quite clunky to use in comparison. I actually found the improved Triton sequencer to be a big improvement, particularly from a user interface and touchscreen perspective. The cue lists and preset templates were big pluses IMHO. A piano roll editor would have been very welcome but that came in the latter Korg M3 Xpanded and Krome workstations. Strangely, the top of the line Kronos sequencer doesn't feature piano roll editing! The 2 arpeggiators in the Triton were also a very welcome edition and added a lot to the newer instrument. Your review is outstanding. Keep up the great work buddy!
It was supposed to - the OASYS tech came before the Trinity, but was eventually fractured into the Trinity, Wavedrum, Prophecy, and maybe others. The prototype OASYS's from the time even use the same shell as the Trinity. The final OASYS that released barely resembled the original under the hood.
@@SpeedySPCFan the first Oasys was shown at the 1994 NAMM Show and as history has since proven, it never eventuated. The second Oasys incarnation came out 11 years later in 2005. It must be easily the most glorious Korg keyboard ever released!
@@madness8556 The first OASYS sort of released as the OASYS PCI in 1999. It was still too expensive and lacking in polyphony to catch on, but it's the closest we ever got the original goal of the project. In addition to having a ton of good stock sound engines, it was totally reprogrammable (SynthKit was never properly released, but you could get it by request) on the DSP level to create entirely new ones. It's still pretty sick sounding for what it is (including some genuinely good VA models), and there's nothing quite like it. Imagine if Korg actually released an SDK to develop new engines for whatever they're planning to replace the Kronos with, now that'd be a power move. That, or a Studio version with some physical design cues from the OASYS workstation, I'd love a big vertical screen for instance.
This is still amazing, on an completely different note, remember that guy who’s profile picture has a biten apple on it? Well i’m rightfully calling him out on everything i’m giving him the full-on justice hammer that he deserves, Twitter link is over here: mobile.twitter.com/AlexHoodJpFan/status/1327770856270000129 Spread the word, and give the world a reason to keep living one step at a time. Back to that other note: this video is still amazing, I wonder if there still modern keyboards that had KORG’s key beds on them? They Felt so good if eye witness accounts have to say, are they essential for a good keyboard? 👍🏻👍🏻
@@DupaChunner There's a lot of things for me to go over with the hardware that I can't with the softsynth - the touchscreen interface, the expansion options, the sampler, the reliability of the hardware, the keyboard... unless someone local can donate a Triton to me for a while I won't be doing an episode on it.
Convince Ketron or someone else to send me one, all expenses paid, and I'll do it. I don't have the cash to spend frivolously on synths, unfortunately... what little I do have is going to replacing my now dead Triton Extreme.
My Trinity+ is still going strong. I bought it in 1996 and wrote the Duke Nukem Total Meltdown soundtrack with it, and it's still my master keyboard is it's so playable.
Oh wow, that's awesome to see you here - I love the soundtrack to that version of the game!
Glad to hear you still use your Trinity, it's still a wonderful piece of kit and you did great work with it back then.
@@SpeedySPCFan Ha, thanks. I think it was a bit Marmite - most of the Americans didn't like it because it wasn't rock, but the Europeans did because it wasn't rock, haha.
@@MarkTDKKnight Hah, figures. Honestly I've played enough of Duke 3D on the PC that a different version of the soundtrack was very welcome in my book :p
I'm curious, do you happen to remember what else you used when writing the soundtrack? Listening to it now I definitely hear the Trinity in it, and I think a drum loop from the Methods of Mayhem sample CD by Sounds Good AB in "Spacey".
@@SpeedySPCFan There was lots of Methods through out the soundtrack, yes...
I had a Kurzweil K2500r on sample playback duties, and a Yamaha RM50 drum module - drums were dealt with by all three though, the Trinity, Kuzzie and Yamaha.
@@MarkTDKKnight Oh, awesome! Thanks for answering. I thought some of the drums sounded awesome but nothing like the Kurzweil or Trinity, that would explain it - so thanks for fueling my gear lust just a bit more, now I have some RM50 auctions to keep an eye out on! :p
helped my parents move and in their shed was a Trinity Pro x 88 key behemoth. i will be learning to play the piano on it!
Cool. A friend of mine had one of these in the 90s, he spent all of his savings to be the cool kid for some months ;-) The sounds made our jaws drop, for sure.
For some months 😂
SEGA composers used this KORG keyboard, along with the M1, 01/W, MS-2000, and the TRITON.
also the JV 1080 and 2080
And the Wavestation. The Echo Hunters preset can be heard in Sonic Adventure's continue screen.
This is a very comprehensive video about Trinity. These were the most exciting times. Yamaha VL1, Technics WSA1, and then this with its Prophecy card. Acoustic physical modeling galore.
righteous video man .. thank you! Liked and subbed. I'm taking delivery of a trinity this weekend, couldn't be more stoked to watch this tonight!
Finally someone makes a good video focused on the Trinity. Most people just focus on the triton and see it was the first one to have the touch view type display. Are used to have a V3 Pro X model and I loved it. After I got my later workstation, which was an M50 I let a family member borrow my Trinity, they left it plugged in during an electrical storm and I believe the board got fried. So I happen to find a good deal on a TR Rack because there were just some of the sounds that the Trinity model that I had had included that I just could not imagine doing without anymore. I mean it’s combinations are so massive. It has such a great sound for that time period. I don’t believe it was the first 48K synthesizer, I believe that went to the Alessi’s Quadrasynth. But still. 48K was very good sampling back in the mid-1990s.
Man this is a huge work effort you've put into this video. And it shows! Thank you Speedy!
P.S. UNATCO cover is awesome, too!
Man,your videos is fantastic and very very very...very cool!
Really love this channel!
It's really rare type of content on TH-cam.
It's Quality Content.
About Synths.
Please do not throw your channel.
I’ve been looking for a channel about old synthesizers for so long.
And I found even more)
Thank you for all!
P.S OMG!!!!! UNATCO COVER IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!
I've been trying to figure out what Alexander used on the OST for Unreal... Now I know, finally :).
Anyways, fantastic job here Speedy. It's great that you put so much effort into these vids, it makes the videos far more enjoyable and interesting to watch.
The Unreal soundtrack was one of the best scores of the 90's in my opinion. I love that it came from the Trinity.
Samples came from the trinity into ImpulseTracker and BOOM! Facing worlds 👽
2023 still going strong, just completely stripped it, back to pristine condition. Bought in 99 in Beijing and it had a broken end panel which was finally fixed with epoxy and colour matched with Humbrol/Airfix paint. Looking forward to many years of good use.
Fantastic video, thank you! Now I want one so badly 😍
Thanks for this masterpiece of a review!
Bought my Trinity Plus yesterday for about 150$...get it before those prices go up :)
Fantastic video thanks . I love playing my trinity. Sound samples are so pure .
Triton is the sound of hip-hop (really a bunch of hip-hop stuff simply asks for the Triton). Trinity is the sound of heaven in your ears. To answer specifically why: it's the filters. Effects not so much, specifically the filters are leaps and bounds better than those on Triton. Also Triton seems to have a lower headroom, which makes it push the output stage harder, which then compresses things in a way that worked for that hip-hop crowd. But it doesn't work for motion sounds that Trinity is known for :)
I own a TR-Rack and yeah, it's only editable from the computer, but man it sounds tremendous even after all these years. The only other thing comparable sound quality-wise from those times would be a Kurzweil K2500.
I bought and sold Triton in two months. I did not get any vibe from it. It is as dull as a dishwasher :)
Great content!
I can't imagine seeing and using a touchscreen in 1995 that's before I was born 😭
Don’t be lazy. You could have done it in your past life!
Light pen and CRT in the '70s-'80s be like:
Very enjoyable video - well done!
Very technical and comprehensive review. Impressive.
Awesome video!
NO PORTAMENTO on Trinity, so misspoke at 43:53 ! (Solo-Tri Prophecy synth card and MOSS-Tri Z1 synth card both have portamento, as does regular Triton.)
The 32 notes of polyphony was perhaps the Trinity's biggest con at the time when the likes of Roland JV and XP series, Ensoniq MR series, Alesis Quadrasynthe and Yamaha MU series were releasing instruments with 64 notes of polyphony. I spoke to a Korg representative in Australia at the time who said that what the competition was doing with 4 oscillators per voice, Korg was doing with only 2 oscillators with the large amount of DSP also contributing to the true multi timbral fx capabilities that none of the competition could compete with in the mid 90s. I owned both a Trinity Plus and TR Rack and I loved the extra sounds available in the module thanks to the extra 8mb of waveform ROM including much improved piano samples and a stack of new excellent drum sounds that found themselves later in the 1999 Triton. Sadly the Triton didn't get those improved piano sounds though.
Dude, you're a synth professor. Perhaps you should open your own Synth School to pass on this incredible knowledge to others. Very educative.
A superb review! Subscribed!!
Wow! Now *THAT'S* what I call....a *WORKSTATION!*
Speedy travelled through time and birthed me. I bought a Trinity Pro 76 after watching this video which proves you are my father.
A lot of work here - Great job! All of your videos are fantastic! (As well as your music!)
Seeing as I don't have a lot of space for keyboards, I'm interested in the rack version. You mentioned it has an upgraded soundbank, but does that mean it still has the factory Trinity sounds the keyboard versions come with?
Yes, it still has the factory sounds, just new ones in banks C & D
i have 3 Trinity, 2 still like new, all getting polarizer problem on the screen though since they are old ... still, i love them very much.. the sounds are amazing and the keys action is just marvelous...
i'll keep them all... i just like them very much..
I absolutely love mine - it will always be a firm fixture in my studio.
If you want to know what a korg trinity sounds like check out my band on TH-cam the eyes of Isabel we are using a korg trinity thanks
Thank's for this presentation :)
The Trinity touch screen did lag but I just got used to it. The Triton's touch screen GUI was a massive improvement over the Trinity's. The Triton also allowed its LFOs to be synced to MIDI clock, something that the Trinity was sadly lacking. The Yamaha FS keybed feels fabulous to play and was way better than the unweighted Roland keybeds at the time IMHO. My now sold T3EX, O1WFD, Trinity Plus and Triton Classic all had that same fantastic keybed. I rarely used the Trinity's sequencer although I used the Triton's sequencer and really loved its simplicity.
Nice Video Speedy DTM, Good Moves.
Yeah, this seems like the sort of workstation I'd snag. The Effects and Modulation sections are the areas one could conceptually wring a good helping of mileage out of. They probably didn't think of a Decimation/Downsampling effect in the 90s :^)
i just got one, going to check this before i unpack :D ty for video bro. I paid only 50 euros
Imagine if this was added to the legacy collection...
They added Triton tho.
@@DupaChunner Yeah. Triton is great and all, but Trinity is better with its multimode filters etc.
@@EvilDragon666 they will eventually along with the 01W and M3.
@@madness8556 I hope they will, but I'd much rather see them provide an official DW6000/8000 plugin. 01/W isn't THAT much different from M1 apart from the waveshaping part. I don't see them doing the M3. Radias in the box would be cool, though!
@@EvilDragon666 well said. I was very surprised that Korg released Triton Extreme as a separate plug in as opposed to updating the actual Triton plug in with the extra Triton Extreme features and sounds. The M1 plug in has all the T series sounds and features.
Hi Speedy! Please tell us when you will release next Sound Profile episode? Maybe the mighty JD-990? ;-)
Soon™
I liked the video 2 seconds in and I didn't regret it ! At the beginning I was like - Damn I know these chord and it surely was - Interlude II from Unreal: Return to NaPali, one of the best songs I know. In general Unreal Soundtrack is the music of my life and I fall asleep to it every single night. Thank you so so much for amazing video!!!!
The game hasn't held up that well but man that soundtrack.
Unreal (+ return to na pali), Unreal Tournament, and Deus Ex. 3 greatest PC game soundtracks of all time.
Great video ! I own the Rack version of the Trinity. The sounds of this machine are really atonishing. :-))
I also owned a TR Rack and I wish that the Trinity also had those extra sounds and 8mb of waveform ROM.
I'll take that Ensoniq TS 10 you have showing in the video. Nice!!! Love the Trinity as well. Still one of the great synths I've heard.
The Trinity and TS10 along with a Roland JV1080/2080 and a dedicated VA synth at the time would be a formidable combo!
Very Thorough!
Hey Speedy.
Excellent, honest review focused on the Trinity👍. I actually got mine just today (V2 -with Pbs-Tri installed; a nice surprise), mostly inspired your video & my memories testing one in a music store when the Trinitys were new.
I also got a Z1 & Prophecy; don't know if I'll be needing to change my Pbs-board to Moss board.. tempting tho (; .
Btw I enjoy watching All your synth reviews. You have a pro approach(: 👍.
Here are a couple of baffling about the Korg Trinity: I own 4 and each one of them has the same problem. When using various Organ Patches and applying internal Roto-Simulator for fast and slow Vibrato these Keyboards at times only offer half of the effect, thus washing out the entire Organ Tone. It is frustrating, because most Repair Guys do not know the cause or how to fix this problem. Can you help?
That was a nice Korg Triton extreme there in the background. Subed from Woody's channel! I was looking at the TR-rack today... because of your video I'm not going to entertain the thought of one. On a different note...I wonder if the adat out would let you do all 8 voices in a combi layer...or if it is just stereo.
Edit:
I just want to say, your technical review is 100%. Even though most people don't care about CPU data sheets and the compression ratios of the samples...I do. Thank you for taking the time to research all of it.
Good video, do you know the ocillators of this program?
ribbon you head off
Ocillator 1 :?
Ocillator 2 :?
Hi there, you know when using the Trinity’s sequencer, why does the program sound I chose not have any of the effects applied like it does in the dedicated program section? Any ideas? Just not sure. Thank you.
The sequencer doesn't carry effects over, if it did you'd run out of effects nearly instantly (some programs use 4 fx slots, the synth has 8 max)
The specification at 4:29 lools almost like a specification of Waldorf Blofeld :)
The M1 distorted guitar has to be one of the most hideous guitar emulations to ever grace a keyboard IMHO! On the other hand, the nylon guitar sound was a keeper at the time!
Cool 💯💯💯💯💯😎🤟
I just saw a trinity at an antique store today and I could have gotten it for $100 making me wonder if I should have taken it!
I've got Trinity with MOSS and also Z1. They sound slightly different of course. Trinity has a deeper and more rounded bass which is not always an advantage - Z1 is capable of more subtle harmonics, especially with resonance turned up, which makes some pads sound crispier and more detailed in mid and high frequency range. I managed to transfer all my favourite patches from Z1 to Trinity with Moss. Most sound identical, a few lack forementioned sonic subtleties. Had Triton Extreme and sold it - sounded dull and muddy to me, shame on Korg for what they did to the filter. Old Trinity beats it and Kronos soundwise. The filters sing with a bit of resonance - something Triton cannot do. Triton has much sweeter strings though - thanks to larger and updated samples. Anyway, Trinity is a great pad machine, especially with MOSS and 8 mb of my own, carefully selected Roland and EMU waveforms. So much gear, so little time.
MOSS board is gimped in Trinity because it's NOT multitimbral like it is in Z1 and Triton.
@@ShallRemainUnknown True, but if you have lot's of gear and samplers who cares about multitimbrality.
@@metanoja9804 MOSS is pure multi-modeling synth (not PCM-based) with distinct advantage of generating dynamics and expressiveness. Simply sampling its sound will lose much of that (similar to sampling acoustic piano without multisampling, velocity layers, etc.). You could use sampler's synth parameters to compensate for some of that loss, but it's time-intensive. Beyond that, because MOSS has 13 different modeling algorithms, multitimbrality allows layering full programs based on those different engines. Otherwise you have to dance around that by multitracking on DAW, certainly not optimal. So, I think the Z1 and Triton multitimbral MOSS is a BIG advantage to the monotimbral Trinity MOSS. Another disadvantage is the MOSS board (unlike Solo/Prophecy board) does not have its own CPU, instead relying on the Trinity's already-taxed CPU (slow screen redraws and touch response, even without MOSS) , whereas the Triton has a much faster CPU.
@@ShallRemainUnknown I am aware of all shortcomings of Trinity. CPU performance is not what I am after. I simply prefer the sound of its filters, 48k samples combined with MOSS in combis and output stage to later models. Period. If multitimbrality is your game, stick with your choices and enjoy making music.
The Orchestral Elements may need a breath controller among others to be more convincing; might be worth a try.
Hi, great video, but I did not understand one thing: on Trinity can sound be mediated in real time? Like changing the Portamento like on Triton and little sisters? It is important to me because I use MOOG
Question
Does this synth have some of the same patches as the M1
dam this is sick but so hard to find menu tutorial
Hey Speedy, I'm just asking about this, what's your opinion on the kontact player thing? Do you like it or hate it? If so tell me and also tell me why. ;) also I've had fl studio and lmms, but i can't connect a piano keyboard to a pc. Do you think I should try that?
Kontakt Player is really just a sound engine, I don't have many thoughts on it besides disliking Native Instruments as a company for their monopolistic and careless business practices - but a lot of the sound libraries on it are great!
I'd probably try that~!
@@SpeedySPCFan oh boy, thanks. :)
Thanks for the video. I got a question for anyone here: I've had this keyboard since 1996. I had it in storage for about 9 years and finally took it out and started to playback my old tracks with it. Now, How do I get those tracks into my Logic Pro X so i can have a digital version of all my tracks?
Audio: load the songs onto your Trinity, connect the audio output of the Trinity to your audio interface and Mac, press record in Logic Pro, then play on the Trinity.
MIDI: save SMF files (Standard MIDI Files) of the songs on your Trinity to either a floppy disc or SCSI storage, then find a way to connect that to a computer you can transfer data to and from.
Speedy DTM thanks for the quick response. I have an Mbox 3 that I’ve used in the past. I’ll try it today. Thanks so much.
I sold my Trinity Plus to buy a Triton when it came out in 1999. There were obvious improvements in the Triton such as the almost doubled 62 note polyphony, much improved effects routing, built in sampler, 2 more outputs with better routing, LFOs that synchronised to MIDI clock, a better built in sequencer, dual arpeggiators and more responsive touch screen operations. However the overall sound certainly wasn't better and the Triton's filters were certainly inferior. Many of the factory acoustic instrument programs such as the acoustic piano, strings, saxes and nylon string guitar were much better in the Trinity IMHO. Its ribbon was also pressure sensitive unlike the Triton's ribbon controller. I later got a TR Rack that had those much improved pianos and many more drum kits and I came to the conclusion that the Trinity sounded 'better' than the Triton.
I also owned an 18 voice polyphonic Korg Z1 and it's MOSS sound was definitely better than the Prophecy Solo TRI board in the Trinity Plus. I later had the 6 voice MOSS board in my Korg Triton Classic and it certainly didn't sound as good as the Z1.
I didn't use the Trinity Plus sequencer much because I had an Atari Mega 4 running C Lab Notator Plus and found the Trinity sequencer quite clunky to use in comparison. I actually found the improved Triton sequencer to be a big improvement, particularly from a user interface and touchscreen perspective. The cue lists and preset templates were big pluses IMHO. A piano roll editor would have been very welcome but that came in the latter Korg M3 Xpanded and Krome workstations. Strangely, the top of the line Kronos sequencer doesn't feature piano roll editing!
The 2 arpeggiators in the Triton were also a very welcome edition and added a lot to the newer instrument.
Your review is outstanding. Keep up the great work buddy!
It doesn’t have a mod wheel?
The pitch and mod wheels are combined into the joystick.
I want to sell may korg Trinity plus synthesizer screen touch not working and display not show any icon but display show things
Even before I saw your face, I knew you would have 80’s hair :-)
Can you send digital out to an external DAC?
great video.thank you so much.so i can only play 1 note at a time on the S Bank?
Yes, only one note at a time on the S Bank. The MOSS-TRI (which occupies the M Bank and replaces the SOLO-TRI) can play six notes at a time.
Sir I need korg trinity plus combination programmes please help
1:02 are you saying that the oasys came before the trinity? Wtf
It was supposed to - the OASYS tech came before the Trinity, but was eventually fractured into the Trinity, Wavedrum, Prophecy, and maybe others. The prototype OASYS's from the time even use the same shell as the Trinity.
The final OASYS that released barely resembled the original under the hood.
@@SpeedySPCFan the first Oasys was shown at the 1994 NAMM Show and as history has since proven, it never eventuated. The second Oasys incarnation came out 11 years later in 2005. It must be easily the most glorious Korg keyboard ever released!
@@madness8556 The first OASYS sort of released as the OASYS PCI in 1999. It was still too expensive and lacking in polyphony to catch on, but it's the closest we ever got the original goal of the project. In addition to having a ton of good stock sound engines, it was totally reprogrammable (SynthKit was never properly released, but you could get it by request) on the DSP level to create entirely new ones. It's still pretty sick sounding for what it is (including some genuinely good VA models), and there's nothing quite like it.
Imagine if Korg actually released an SDK to develop new engines for whatever they're planning to replace the Kronos with, now that'd be a power move. That, or a Studio version with some physical design cues from the OASYS workstation, I'd love a big vertical screen for instance.
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Back to that other note: this video is still amazing, I wonder if there still modern keyboards that had KORG’s key beds on them? They Felt so good if eye witness accounts have to say, are they essential for a good keyboard? 👍🏻👍🏻
I would love to see a triton vid! Instant sub!
My Triton Extreme died in the middle of video production, sadly, and I ended up selling it. Otherwise one would have already been up by now x_x
Speedy DTM
I’m guessing the Triton VST wouldn’t suffice, then? That’s sad if that’s the case.
@@DupaChunner There's a lot of things for me to go over with the hardware that I can't with the softsynth - the touchscreen interface, the expansion options, the sampler, the reliability of the hardware, the keyboard... unless someone local can donate a Triton to me for a while I won't be doing an episode on it.
Speedy DTM
Oh right, and the back things located in the back of the thing.
Next, do Solton by Keytron Labs
Convince Ketron or someone else to send me one, all expenses paid, and I'll do it. I don't have the cash to spend frivolously on synths, unfortunately... what little I do have is going to replacing my now dead Triton Extreme.