Was just watching the actors doing a Q&A panel and Anthony Michael Hall said that Judd showed up to the audition pretty much dressed like you see him in the movie. Judd added that he knew the character was a low life and had no interest in lifting himself up, but rather tear everyone down to his level. So in the audition he was only supposed to talk to Anthony Michael Hall and one other person, but he also started to give the casting director and John Hughes (people he shouldn't have been speaking to) a hard time simply because they were in the room. They played along, but it almost cost him the job. This was largely due to the fact that after the audition, John Hughes called Judd to talk about the role and they had a very nice 45 minute conversation and after the call John Hughes was convinced he had been duped, suggesting the person he spoke to on the phone was absolutely not the same person who came in for the audition.. So when you say that Judd knew his role, you hit the nail right on the head.
@@tony_n316 Hughes reportedly said he would never work with Judd Nelson again because of his attitude, but all he was doing was method acting. He stayed in character on and off the set, and Paul Gleason (the principal) had to have a talk with Hughes to keep him from getting fired. He basically made it clear that he felt Nelson was the best actor of the bunch.
Everyone keeps asking for a sequel. I think we know how their lives would have turned out. The film was what we needed at that time. I was 13 when I saw it and I thought it was funny, interesting and perfect for that time. When I watch it today, I remember how I felt watching it back in the 80's. That's the nostalgia we all crave as we get older. There's no going home again.
WOW! Watching Carl's full monologue for the first time brings a whole new meaning to "hey, but I'm just a janitor, huh?". They should have left it in. It fits perfectly with one of the main themes of the film summed up by Andy when he says "are we gonna end up being just like our parents?".
Glad they cut the whole scene. Bender comes across as very childish here, and for the rest of the movie he appears to be more mature. The principal exposes him as a scared little boy in the closet scene where he feints the punch, but this is out of the view of the others. I think if you leave in him acting like a 10-year old, the rest of it doesn't make sense.
Probably - possibly would have changed the rating of the film. Also, while brilliant it was a bit long? Maybe they could have broken it into two parts, LOL. Part of the monologue at one point the rest, another. They should have kept it in in one way or the other. It makes it a much tougher, more adult film. Maybe that was it - it was not like the rest of the film. Carl's monologue was photo-realistic while the rest of the film was a bit larger than life? He did a great job.
I love the scene. But it doesn’t work in the overall character development of the movie. And instead of more of a neutral character the Janitor here becomes a more important role but also bitter and and leads you to think this monologue is leading to some important aspect of the plot. Also it reveals too much about each of the real main characters
carl is their future. notice carl is in the opening credits in the trophy case as a "man of the year" student some 20 years earlier. the whole point of his speech was illustrating a cautionary tale. "i was you - get your shit together or you will become me... or worse."
I’m actually glad the Carl monologue was edited for the final film. It came across as too mean spirited, taking issue and addressing each individual and their future flaws, even through it was only Bender that demeaned Carl in the beginning. The film version was perfect and flowed nicely with a humorous tone.
They didn’t care about that kind of stuff in films as they do now. Back then it was real life. Very likely an adult in school would tell that kind of thing to a high school student. Told you like it was and didn’t have to worry about what people would think and who would take offense like they have to now.
@johnnyeco280 - Completely agree. The monologue took a teen film to a place we live in as a society TODAY... no filter. I'm glad we were sheltered from that kind of shlt as kids/teens. They made the right decision.
Loved this movie when it came out. Took me back to that era. To this day, each of those characters reminds me of those same people throughout my school years. Love nostalgia
I think they took part of Carl out bc he lashed out at everyone just for Benders question. And saved 13 Fs 7:45 Bender 9:5210:1110:3110:57 all innocent 😂
One of my favorite movies as it took place when I was going to HS. Two things come to mind as I watch this clip. 1. That even as young as being in elementary school I thought my teachers were idiots for the most part(there are always exceptions) and now at almost 60 I realize I was 100% right. 2. This monologue from Carl is 100% wrong. I’m happy it was cut out as it wouldn’t have aged well. The Custodial engineer(this is what the custodian is called) has a great job. They make a lot more than teachers and have little oversight. It’s actually a tough job to get. Even their underlings(“firemen” who are the 2nd in command, and “cleaners” do very well). Many people would have loved to get a job like this back then.
@@trixiegirl4576It's a matter of perspective. I remember almost all of my teachers from the fourth grade onwards and they were true professionals. I think back at the things they taught us, especially the non-curricular stuff, and they were absolutely correct. So I had the opposite experience than the OP. However, being in the educational research field, the profession (along with most others) have taken a serious hit. Unfortunately, a lot of teachers now are woefully under prepared and educated. The good to great ones are rare and many are bailing. The rest are awful and should not be near children or a school. But, they're in there anyway. It's extremely sad and worrying
@@penoyer79 Actually, the janitor was not a fuckup in high school. In the opening shots of the interior of the school, there's a collection of photos of Shermer's "Man of the Year" and you can see Carl had the honor himself.
Fun facts for those who don’t know much about the movie’s background. Ronald Reagan was the first choice to play Vernon, but a meeting with Mikhail Gorbachev conflicted with the shooting schedule and he could not accept the role. In Reagan’s autobiography, An American Life, he calls this “The biggest regret of my life.” Harvey Keitel was the next pick, but after reading the script he told John Hughes that he’d only play the role if he could dress in the same clothes he wore in “Taxi Driver.” So Paul Gleason, son of Jackie Gleason, won the role. During shooting he improvised the movie’s most famous line, “Yo Sal, how come there ain’t no brothers up on the wall?” The role Anthony Michael Hall played was originally written for a chimpanzee. Eric Stolz was originally cast as Bender, then halfway through filming John Hughes realized he wasn’t menacing enough and fired him. But you can still see glimpses of Stolz in the movie. That is his head between Molly Ringwald’s knees. And Hughes wanted Justine Bateman as the Claire character, but Gary David Goldberg would not give her the time off needed to film the movie. Filming was delayed for six months because of a typhoon. Emilio Estevez suffered a heart attack right before shooting began, also delaying the shooting schedule. The five students were originally supposed to serve their detention in the school cafeteria, locked into the walk-in refrigerator, but then producers were worried that children would try to copy the movie and lock themselves into their refrigerators at home, then suffocate. The exterior scenes were shot at a suburban high school right outside of Chicago, but the library scenes were filmed at the Princeton University library, which is mostly underground and that’s why you see no windows in the movie’s library. Harvard University refused permission to film the dance scene there, so it was done at Oxford in England. Judd Nelson went undercover as a high school student at a local high school because seven years after graduating from a high school in Maine he had no memory of what high school was like, and found he liked it so much that he stayed at that high school after filming and four years later graduated as their Valedictorian. No one at that school ever realized he was an actor and not a student, even though he had been in three movies before “The Breakfast Club.”
What I like about them casting Judd Nelson at 25, or however old he was, is that at school I can remember there was always that one weird kid who looked like an adult. Also you could explain the more mature appearance by smoking a pack of cigarettes for a day for a couple of years
4:30 The year is 2024 and we have the exact same bathroom doors at work. Same color; everything! And we are one of the largest corporations in the world.
Have to echo previous comments. They shouldn’t have cut Carl’s predictions. My guess it was thought to hit too close to home and might’ve been offensive.
They cut that because they had to leave it to your imagination. He was too on point. Also the opposites got together in the end and the possibilities of their futures are endless because of one chance encounter with each other under one moment in time. You hope they learned something. That is the whole point of the movie......hope.
Karl's abusive monologue was over the top so I'm glad they cut it. He just sounds bitter and is taking joy in cutting them down to size. He'd have lost his likability and coolness had they kept that in.
Nah. The opposites all attracted to each other. There was hope their future lay in understanding of different outcomes and hope. Glad they edited that out.
Where else could he go? If he was seen loitering around town doing anything, the cops would likely be on his case and it would get back to his father, who would be more than happy to unleash another load of abuse on John, beyond what likely happened after being notified that he was supposed to be in detention at school in the first place.
Carl was man of the year - as shown in the intro. he was the top student in his class. hes not nihilistic or apathetic - he's a walking, talking wake up call. read between the lines . How does one become a janitor? I fucked up (just like you did to get in here... keep it up and you'll find out)
I don't know why so many people think this movie is a "classic." The only thing it had going for it was the presence of the "Brat Pack" and a decent soundtrack. It didn't reflect reality; it was more of the narcissistic point of view of this group of students, with an unrealistic, unprofessional, and laughable vice principal thrown in for good measure.
Judd Nelson walking in was a vibe. Knew instantly his role, along with Alley Sheedy. Loved this movie. All great actors!
Was just watching the actors doing a Q&A panel and Anthony Michael Hall said that Judd showed up to the audition pretty much dressed like you see him in the movie. Judd added that he knew the character was a low life and had no interest in lifting himself up, but rather tear everyone down to his level. So in the audition he was only supposed to talk to Anthony Michael Hall and one other person, but he also started to give the casting director and John Hughes (people he shouldn't have been speaking to) a hard time simply because they were in the room. They played along, but it almost cost him the job. This was largely due to the fact that after the audition, John Hughes called Judd to talk about the role and they had a very nice 45 minute conversation and after the call John Hughes was convinced he had been duped, suggesting the person he spoke to on the phone was absolutely not the same person who came in for the audition.. So when you say that Judd knew his role, you hit the nail right on the head.
@@tony_n316 Hughes reportedly said he would never work with Judd Nelson again because of his attitude, but all he was doing was method acting. He stayed in character on and off the set, and Paul Gleason (the principal) had to have a talk with Hughes to keep him from getting fired. He basically made it clear that he felt Nelson was the best actor of the bunch.
Everyone keeps asking for a sequel. I think we know how their lives would have turned out. The film was what we needed at that time. I was 13 when I saw it and I thought it was funny, interesting and perfect for that time. When I watch it today, I remember how I felt watching it back in the 80's. That's the nostalgia we all crave as we get older. There's no going home again.
The janitor's monolog about their futures is strong; they shouldn't have cut this.
Brilliant!
Yeah , it's an important piece of the movie . Bad editorial decision
The janitor was probably right about each kid's future. I love the ending line, by the way that clock is 20; minutes fast--ouch, ends with a zinger.
@@2tall2be4gotten his trolling/roasting of the kids was too dark for the overall tone of the movie
thats why hughes cut it
Definitely should have left Carl's dialogue in. He was the janitor at the zoo when Ross went to look for Marcel in Friends.
Bender: "how does one become a janitor?"
Carl: "fuck around and find out"
WOW! Watching Carl's full monologue for the first time brings a whole new meaning to "hey, but I'm just a janitor, huh?". They should have left it in. It fits perfectly with one of the main themes of the film summed up by Andy when he says "are we gonna end up being just like our parents?".
He really said “Take a picture it’ll last longer” 😂
Glad they cut the whole scene. Bender comes across as very childish here, and for the rest of the movie he appears to be more mature. The principal exposes him as a scared little boy in the closet scene where he feints the punch, but this is out of the view of the others. I think if you leave in him acting like a 10-year old, the rest of it doesn't make sense.
Carl was also in 16 Candles. He played the groom-to-be of Molly's sister.
The legendary John Kapelos. He also played the pimp with purple hat in Weird Science
He also played Paulette’s ex boyfriend in Legally Blonde
He plays that role so beautifully!! He's just effing awful!!!🤣😂🤣
Good catch! You're right!
@@edaniels240 Second City guy?
Who decided to cut Carl’s monologue? That could have been ICONIC!
Probably - possibly would have changed the rating of the film. Also, while brilliant it was a bit long? Maybe they could have broken it into two parts, LOL. Part of the monologue at one point the rest, another.
They should have kept it in in one way or the other. It makes it a much tougher, more adult film. Maybe that was it - it was not like the rest of the film. Carl's monologue was photo-realistic while the rest of the film was a bit larger than life?
He did a great job.
@@allancerf9038 The speech wouldn't have changed the film's rating -- it was already an R.
I love the scene. But it doesn’t work in the overall character development of the movie. And instead of more of a neutral character the Janitor here becomes a more important role but also bitter and and leads you to think this monologue is leading to some important aspect of the plot. Also it reveals too much about each of the real main characters
I bet Carl's predictions of the kids' futures weren't too far off! Insightful guy who spends year after year seeing kids exactly like these 5.
carl is their future. notice carl is in the opening credits in the trophy case as a "man of the year" student some 20 years earlier. the whole point of his speech was illustrating a cautionary tale. "i was you - get your shit together or you will become me... or worse."
@@penoyer79Very true!
I’m actually glad the Carl monologue was edited for the final film. It came across as too mean spirited, taking issue and addressing each individual and their future flaws, even through it was only Bender that demeaned Carl in the beginning. The film version was perfect and flowed nicely with a humorous tone.
They didn’t care about that kind of stuff in films as they do now. Back then it was real life. Very likely an adult in school would tell that kind of thing to a high school student. Told you like it was and didn’t have to worry about what people would think and who would take offense like they have to now.
@johnnyeco280 - Completely agree. The monologue took a teen film to a place we live in as a society TODAY... no filter. I'm glad we were sheltered from that kind of shlt as kids/teens. They made the right decision.
That was life when woke wasn't a thing.
Loved this movie when it came out. Took me back to that era. To this day, each of those characters reminds me of those same people throughout my school years. Love nostalgia
11.74$ an hour in 1984, is 35$ an hour today. Not a bad gig tbh hahahaha
If it only worked exactly like that
it doesn't matter. it still got you just as far in life.
@@gterrymedIt does
He was being sarcastic about making 11.74$ lol
Yeah but today that job pays $12.50. Just like everything else. Wages have been all but stagnant since even before this movie was filmed.
carl's speech was gangsta
you can't disagree:)) " twat lips, mr wizard, misss sensitive, muscle butt and home coming queen" all very accurate descriptions.
I don’t know if is was gangsta
Legendary Janitor.
I want to see a movie about the janitor. That would be good.
Good idea.
I think they took part of Carl out bc he lashed out at everyone just for Benders question. And saved 13 Fs
7:45 Bender
9:52 10:11 10:31 10:57 all innocent 😂
I loved Carl in the original version. In these scenes he's nauseating.
Just watch a recent panel with the Breakfast Club. Anthony Michael Hall is now twice as big as Judd Nelson
I saw that, too 😅
anthony hall becoming the white Tony Soprano is something no one saw coming.
John Bender asks the ultimate question, have we ever approached a janitor (or custodian) and asked how they landed on that career choice?
Not me.
Bender: "how does one become a janitor?"
Carl: "keep fucking around and you'll find out"
The answer is kind of obvious though, tbh. different details for each janitor, but same general theme.
Ally Sheedy was BRILLIANT!!!!!
One of my favorite movies as it took place when I was going to HS. Two things come to mind as I watch this clip.
1. That even as young as being in elementary school I thought my teachers were idiots for the most part(there are always exceptions) and now at almost 60 I realize I was 100% right.
2. This monologue from Carl is 100% wrong. I’m happy it was cut out as it wouldn’t have aged well. The Custodial engineer(this is what the custodian is called) has a great job. They make a lot more than teachers and have little oversight. It’s actually a tough job to get. Even their underlings(“firemen” who are the 2nd in command, and “cleaners” do very well). Many people would have loved to get a job like this back then.
Carl actually mentioned his hourly salary, and for 1984, it was quite good.
Way to generalize and stereotype a whole profession("most teachers are idiots.") 🙄
@@trixiegirl4576It's a matter of perspective. I remember almost all of my teachers from the fourth grade onwards and they were true professionals. I think back at the things they taught us, especially the non-curricular stuff, and they were absolutely correct.
So I had the opposite experience than the OP.
However, being in the educational research field, the profession (along with most others) have taken a serious hit. Unfortunately, a lot of teachers now are woefully under prepared and educated.
The good to great ones are rare and many are bailing. The rest are awful and should not be near children or a school. But, they're in there anyway.
It's extremely sad and worrying
Teacher guy makes me think of Vince McMahon
2:50 Mandela Effect residue. Ricky never said "You have some 'splainin to do" in this Divergence
Sincerely yours
Carl.
Paul Gleason always reminded me of a young Vince MacMahon 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂Tru dat👏👏👏👏
The janitor is bender when he’s older. This is all Bender’s dream…this movie is of him daydreaming all of this.
the janitor is the cautionary tale if they keep fucking up and doing things that land them saturday school
@@penoyer79 Actually, the janitor was not a fuckup in high school. In the opening shots of the interior of the school, there's a collection of photos of Shermer's "Man of the Year" and you can see Carl had the honor himself.
“I am the mastermind of this institution, ladies and gentlemen 😏”. Idk why I hear that
Carl is savage
They could do Breakfast Club sequel where all the janitor's predictions come true.
😂
Janitor we love you!! Moowah!!
Fun facts for those who don’t know much about the movie’s background. Ronald Reagan was the first choice to play Vernon, but a meeting with Mikhail Gorbachev conflicted with the shooting schedule and he could not accept the role. In Reagan’s autobiography, An American Life, he calls this “The biggest regret of my life.” Harvey Keitel was the next pick, but after reading the script he told John Hughes that he’d only play the role if he could dress in the same clothes he wore in “Taxi Driver.” So Paul Gleason, son of Jackie Gleason, won the role. During shooting he improvised the movie’s most famous line, “Yo Sal, how come there ain’t no brothers up on the wall?” The role Anthony Michael Hall played was originally written for a chimpanzee. Eric Stolz was originally cast as Bender, then halfway through filming John Hughes realized he wasn’t menacing enough and fired him. But you can still see glimpses of Stolz in the movie. That is his head between Molly Ringwald’s knees. And Hughes wanted Justine Bateman as the Claire character, but Gary David Goldberg would not give her the time off needed to film the movie. Filming was delayed for six months because of a typhoon. Emilio Estevez suffered a heart attack right before shooting began, also delaying the shooting schedule. The five students were originally supposed to serve their detention in the school cafeteria, locked into the walk-in refrigerator, but then producers were worried that children would try to copy the movie and lock themselves into their refrigerators at home, then suffocate. The exterior scenes were shot at a suburban high school right outside of Chicago, but the library scenes were filmed at the Princeton University library, which is mostly underground and that’s why you see no windows in the movie’s library. Harvard University refused permission to film the dance scene there, so it was done at Oxford in England. Judd Nelson went undercover as a high school student at a local high school because seven years after graduating from a high school in Maine he had no memory of what high school was like, and found he liked it so much that he stayed at that high school after filming and four years later graduated as their Valedictorian. No one at that school ever realized he was an actor and not a student, even though he had been in three movies before “The Breakfast Club.”
Say "No" to drugs. Especially big pharma's
🤣🤣🤣
Carl was spittin some truths 😄
IDK seems pretty dark to me.
No need for the bathroom scene. Good
Speak for yourself
Carl is too funny!
They should have done a Breakfast club sequel 20 years later that had all the originals exactly like he said they would be.
What I like about them casting Judd Nelson at 25, or however old he was, is that at school I can remember there was always that one weird kid who looked like an adult. Also you could explain the more mature appearance by smoking a pack of cigarettes for a day for a couple of years
Do kids still like this movie?
I guess I did when in high school.
Did anyone have a library as nice as the one in the film?
I feel like I could do Emelios acting. Lol
So the janitor was originally Rick Moranis!
8:39; Carl makes the equivalent of $34.00/HR in today's money!!!!
4:30 The year is 2024 and we have the exact same bathroom doors at work. Same color; everything! And we are one of the largest corporations in the world.
2:45 that’s what Jim Carrey would’ve done
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ironically Jim carrey was considered for Bender at one point.
Most of these scenes felt out of place.
Have to echo previous comments. They shouldn’t have cut Carl’s predictions. My guess it was thought to hit too close to home and might’ve been offensive.
I agree the janitor speech should have been in main movie!
Re-release this, titled Janitor’s Cut.
John should have kept the janitor's monologue. It was good!
The Janitor was good why did they cut him out?
They cut that because they had to leave it to your imagination. He was too on point. Also the opposites got together in the end and the possibilities of their futures are endless because of one chance encounter with each other under one moment in time. You hope they learned something. That is the whole point of the movie......hope.
2:45😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Karl's abusive monologue was over the top so I'm glad they cut it. He just sounds bitter and is taking joy in cutting them down to size. He'd have lost his likability and coolness had they kept that in.
Yeah. That seems more like a Vernon thing, not a Carl thing
They should've kept Carl's speech in.
Nah. The opposites all attracted to each other. There was hope their future lay in understanding of different outcomes and hope. Glad they edited that out.
Was $11.74 that bad back then? Min wage was $3.35 an hour back then.
2:45 lol
I love Carl.
If bender was such a rebel, why would he show up for a Saturday detention, especially at 7am?
Where else could he go? If he was seen loitering around town doing anything, the cops would likely be on his case and it would get back to his father, who would be more than happy to unleash another load of abuse on John, beyond what likely happened after being notified that he was supposed to be in detention at school in the first place.
This movies could’ve done even better if they left all these scenes😂
OMG Carl!!!!!😂🤣😅🤣😂
The cuts were good. The dream sequences were odd too and I’m glad they didn’t make it
" Twat lips" haha " miiis sensitiveeeeeee" . Man this guy is on a roll. I bet you he didn't have muh dialogue in the movie cos he was Greek.
I wish they would have kept the full janitor's speech. It is representative of how the Boomers talked to us.
Not according to the Gen X family and friends I know. But, everyone had their own experience
That makes Carl a horrible character. Nihilistic and apathetic, just the opposite from the original version.
Carl was man of the year - as shown in the intro. he was the top student in his class. hes not nihilistic or apathetic - he's a walking, talking wake up call. read between the lines . How does one become a janitor? I fucked up (just like you did to get in here... keep it up and you'll find out)
@@penoyer79 👏👏👏👏👏Should have kept the cut in the movie
So glad they cut Carl's scenes! a bit much...🙄
Carl is so hot
I don't know why so many people think this movie is a "classic." The only thing it had going for it was the presence of the "Brat Pack" and a decent soundtrack. It didn't reflect reality; it was more of the narcissistic point of view of this group of students, with an unrealistic, unprofessional, and laughable vice principal thrown in for good measure.
Man sound changes everything in film. Totally just shitty home video footage without sound.