Transforming a Cheap Table Saw Into a Professional Cabinet Saw
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I've been thinking of building something like this for a long time. Trouble is, I've overthought it so much that's it's become way too complicated. You just made this simple and straight-forward. My stand is going to be a lot more like yours, and a lot less like the monstrosity in my head!
Also, having the pocket holes on the outside means the screws are directed into the material instead of toward the edge, making the joint stronger.
I made a $275.00 Dewalt contractor saw into a full cabinet saw. I made a work table that is 4’x8’. I stripped the contractor saw down by removing the fence and cut a hole in the work table about 6” from the edge. After dropping in the saw, I added a Besemyer fence. I then added my router lift, a vice and 2 cut outs for additional tools. I made elevator lifts for these openings where I put my planer and spindle/belt sander. I just raise them up when needed and they are lowered and completely out of the way when not needed. I basically have 3/4 of the my shop all wrapped up in one bench. It’s on 6 four inch locking casters so I can easily move it around the shop. Next I’m going to add an electric hand plain so I can use it like a jointer. This is probably the most useful thing that I will ever build.
This sound amazing!
The DeWalt jobsite saws must be the best product they make. Been top of that tree for decades. I hope they are maintaining the quality of their corded versions. They have let corded versions of other tools plummet as they concentrate on cordless
“First cut doesn’t count”. I love it, a mulligan in woodworking!
Cut twice, mulligan once.
I would recommend a safety improvement to the crosscut sled. The blade comes though the fence and risks hitting something or someone as it does. I would add a block on the backside of the fence to bury the blade as it comes though the fence. It would also reinforce the fence at the curf.
For your fence issue of being difficult to dial in small amounts, make a bigger handle and you could even put a little knob on it that spins similar to the look of your cabinet saw height adjustment. Love your videos, keep up the great work!
You just convinced me that I don’t need to get a cabinet saw. Thank you.
A lot of other YT sites do similar until they become big and they have the space and sponsors to give them a cabinet saw. Of course, a track saw does most of what a table saw does and you can get big circular saws to run on track if you have to cut deeper than 55 mm - I have a Makita to cut 85 mm off track and 80 mm on track or 70 mm on my home made track (extremely rarely)
Buy a cabinet saw, or do what I did and buy what they call a hybrid saw. Its somewhat a cabinet saw as it doesn't have the open leg stand like a contractor saw, but it don't weigh as much as a full cabinet saw either. I bought mine about a month ago through Grizzly Tools. Since I have a shop setup for 240V I converted my saw to 240V.
The portable saws are great on a jobsite, but you'll appreciate the larger table and power of a hybrid or a cabinet saw...heck even a contractor style saw is going to give you more table space and more power typically. Also, in some wood working tasks you'll want to use a dado stack, some of the portable/jobsite table saws do not accept a dado blade.
I mounted my saw in a portable base, so I just roll it up against the wall in the shop when I'm not using it and want the floor space for other tasks. Every tool I've been buying, I have been putting on mobile bases, it just makes it nice to be able to put the wheels down and roll the tool around wherever I want it, and out of the way when I need floor space.
I have a portable jobsite saw that I use occasionally when I want to do stuff outside and not be stuck inside the shop. I don't do any construction/contractor work, I'm just a home DIYer so I don't take my saw anywhere, its just nice to have the mobility occasionally...however, a good hybrid or cabinet saw is what you really want in the long term if you want to do a lot of projects.
You have no idea how useful videos like this are for people like me.
Thank you so much. Here in the UK big table saws take up so much space we just don’t have room for them so setting up shop with a budget job site saw is usually the way to go.
You’re inspirational- loads of great tips and advice. Thank you.
Ain't that the truth, our home workshop spaces are usually the size of the average Americans workbench 😂 Probably why tracksaws are more common here. Tracksaw and mitre saw do the majority of my cuts.
In UK, it is well worth investing a good jobsite saw (usually DeWalt but they may have let their corded version quality slide as they have with other corded tools) and set it up as a cabinet saw. The latest Evolution looks like a good budget product but I've been burned by their quality control a few times in the past
By the time you build that table you've taken up the same space if not more space than a bigger hybrid or cabinet table saw, you aren't saving any space...just put a mobile base on the cabinet saw and roll it out of the way when you don't need it, that is what I do.
I'm loving the budget tool series. So tired of the tool schilling on TH-cam and Thanks for not being a big brand salesman and for covering up the F35T00L label on the impact driver. 😉 Looking forward to more budget builds! I also feel that any thoughts on the pros and cons of each tool as you use them overtime would be super helpful to your current audience and those future/beginner/budget minded creators out there who will become part of your audience. Keep making!!
Just think about what you are buying and building in the case of this video, he built a table with outfeed support and end supports which now takes up as much space as a cabinet saw....so he hasn't saved himself any space at all by building that table LOL. The nice thing is, with the mobile base, you shove it into a corner, or if you are working in a garage, you can even roll it outside to give yourself more room...and you can still take the saw out of the table to use on a jobsite or other location if you wanted to.
I have my hybrid table saw on a portable base, serves the same purpose for me, roll it against the wall of the shop when not in use, all my stationary power tools are on mobile bases now for that reason.
There are two versions of converting a contractor saw to cabinet saw in Shop Notes Magazine, vol. 15, Issue 89 Sept 2006 and vol. 9, Issue 50 March 2000. I like yours the best. Thank you for sharing Dave. Great video/tutorial once again.
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This is exactly what I need. I was thinking some elaborate table for saw and large outfeed table for assembly, but this will be perfect for my 12x20 metal building. Thanks for doing this
What router table lift are you thinking about adding to the table saw?
YES!! Moving soon and going to unpack my new saw (same size and features as the one here in the video), and this is exactly the build/ inspiration I was looking for!! THANK YOU!! ❤
Good timing on this video. I have actually been thinking of selling off my Saw Stop cabinet saw and switching to a contractor saw to save space since I had to downsize to a single car garage to free up some space. Definitely gave me something to think about.
For people watching this that haven't bought their contractor saw yet, don't buy a Ryobi one! The t tracks for the saw aren't a standard size so after market miter guides won't fit and the fence for it is the worst thing I've ever seen, it's not on a track and just clamps to the table so you have to measure the back and front distance exactly every time so you don't get kick back from pinching the wood.
Tip for getting finer adjustment on the rack and pinion mechanisms for the fence: put a long lever on it. Probably a removable would be preferable.
Love this project!!
When I get around to start woodworking again, this will be one of the first things I build.
Amazing channel and budget tool series. Based on title, wasn't expecting wings, outfeed table and crosscut sled. Was expecting hacks to improve accuracy of the saw itself. Maybe I'm wrong but I think people go from contractor saws to cabinet saws for accuracy and repeatability. Looking for $4000 performance on a $400 budget...but aren't we all! Great channel!
The most useful shop furniture video I have seen. Know what I need to make next to replace my old table saw cabinet!!
aftermarket would be amazing. i have a rigid saw. not only are adjustments finicky, but it doesn't always stay parallel. just two clips that clamp down essentially.
This is a great design and tutorial, and so customizable. Awesome job Dave.
Great job David this helps us that don’t have cabinet saws.I am going to make room in my garage and make this.Thank you again your videos are always inspiring and entertaining.
Great project for beginners and small shop people.
The knocking that bow out clip had me rolling!
I would suggest to cut a bigger opening for the shop vac hose, to allow blade angle adjustment.
To upgrade your fence, check out the BOW XT XTENDER FENCE. I went 46" on my Dewalt (DWE7491RS) Jobsite Saw and added the BOW XT feed supports. I only use them on the infeed side. I use a similar adjustable table for outfeed, so the feed supports get in the way. I also added the JessEm Clear Cut Flex Stock Guides (make sure you buy the "flex" version). Once I build something like what you built, it'll be an even greater setup and a serious upgrade from stock. By the time it's all said and done, the upgrades will be as much or more $$$ than I spent on the saw.
*To save some cash, it wouldn't take much creativity to build something very similar to the BOW XT system out of plywood.
why the flex version? does the others not work?
I have the same Dewalt saw and added the same Xtender setup as you. The difference, in accuracy and safety, FAR exceeded my expectations. I can’t recommend the Xtender enough. I considered cobbling together a homemade setup, but realized that if the end result was a nuisance to use (installing it, removing it, or adjusting it) I’d end up not using it….I consider the cost to be well worth the functionality. 👍🏼👍🏼
If you are cutting mostly flat stock, go with a piece of square aluminum tubing, its cheaper, lol
@@MJLWoodWorks I did this prior to buying the Bow Xtender with the feed supports. It did improve the stock fence, as far as helping prevent left/right movement of the wood….particularly if a good portion of the fence extension was on the infeed side. BUT, it was fussy to use….it was awkward to clamp in place, awkward to adjust, and did not give any support to any wood that extended off the front or rear of the saw’s table. In addition, it did not provide an east way to attach downward-pressure feather boards. Putting the price of an item near the top of your pros/cons list, when said item provides a significant improvement in safety, accuracy, and ease of use, is a false economy.
@@mudz678 oh, I hear ya! Infeed can be a piece of melamine screwed to the aluminum. Two holes in the aluminum with table saw fence clamps could work.. believe me, if I had the money I’d be buying all sorts of cool gadgets… but the purpose of this series is budget tools for budget minded woodworkers so, I would think the fence system is a major luxury for most budget woodworkers..
absolutely a great build, im going to steal some of these Ideas. That seem simple but I havent seen or thought of for my design im about to start. Thank you!
The Bow fence guide might help
Still got the wwgoa membership for $1.49 16 hours after the video went up. Glad it was the first I watched when I got home. Thanks.
Loving your use of CAD - cardboard aided design 😂😂. Seriously - great vid 👍👍👍
The L shaped legs are great - I did the same on my workbench - easy to connect to the cross rails etc, and economical to make 😃
Much appreciated and the kick in the B that I think i needed!
Still have to figure out if I "simply" need to level my garage floor that has a floor drain in the middle. Bad if I get a leaky faucet but otherwise would make things so much easier!
Great video. I love that the shop vac goes inside the cabinet so you only need to have the table connected to the power. Very neat.
Awesome easy upgrades for the saw. I finally made a crosscut sled for my full-sized table saw and it's been great. I would love an afternarket fence though. Still looking for options. Thanks for sharing!
Loving the new smaller workshop David. It reminds me of a multi platinum band recording a new album the way they would have recorded their first, back to basics.
Love this video! As soon as I have a bigger space to work in, I’m going to make something similar for my Dewalt.
I like the side table boxes for storage, great idea!
So many YT woodworking videos are okay or dead-ends and I've viewed waaay too many of them. DGMW, great craftsmen and craftsmanship, but do I really need a 1,000 pound workbench on wheels with finished cabinets and LED lites??!!
In a few short minutes you’ve shown a great way to get started in this hobby, AND an even better way than random YTs to learn woodworking craftsmanship with a WWGOA membership. Thx for the guild membership savings ... VAST resources through their site. Just what I've been looking for. Get your discounted membership before it's too late!
So, folks this channel is a gold mine of info and not a dead-end.
Keep the 10 and practice safety ALWAYS!!
I love this series. Makes it all so accessible. 🙏🏼
Great video David! Many newbies will benefit greatly from this. Thanks!
LOL! 😄 Thank you for a sensible, simple, and sane video for "the rest of us" !
Seeing how versatile this build is means I’m gonna have to build my own. Thank you!! Hopefully someone will drop a link to the better fence, been looking for one.
ty for mentioning the corded drill thing. I acquired my grandpas shop and almost all of his tools were corded. I was surprised at how much more powerful they seemed over my things, or at least the ones i've used so far, jigsaw and drill.
Some corded drills are pretty powerful. I had to put a handle on one drill I have. When it caught in work it'd twist my wrist.
This is a great video that shows what can be done with budget tools and I wish I had seen it a few years earlier. It's probably because I don't know any better but the rack & pinion style adjuster on my DeWalt is the primary reason why I don't want to replace it with anything else. With the same blade you're using in the video, I get exceptionally precise cuts by simply putting at the measurement required. However, the fence itself does leave a small bit to be desired.
Well that looked easy. Nice to see you using those new inexpensive tools to build new easy inexpensive stuff.
when you see all brand colours and no sawdust..walk away 😂
Working in the back parking lot of my apartment I’m stuck using a rolling stand on my saw. Can’t wait to setup something like this when I get a house.
*Great and Simple Design Love it!!* 🌟👍🏻
*I have a DeWalt Table Saw and I'm definitely going to make this!*
Right when you said "got to make sure we have clearance" the quote "You have clearance, Clarance" came into my head, then you posted the clip. Perfect
Thanks man.. This is definitely good for me using modular and just a plywood.. I'll copy it..
A video suggestion, making an affordable solid workbench with laminated 2x4s, vise, dog holes, etc
ok, here you go: th-cam.com/video/lKpqT0IxqfQ/w-d-xo.html
@@MakeSomething *drops mic*
@@MakeSomething- damn that was quick, AND you bent time. Scary.
Thank you for going back to low budget!! You just used your extensive experience and skills to make simple boxes and create a superior upgrade to that saw. I've made a couple of saw stands and it never occurred to me to make an all-in-one that big . . . so that it could be an all-in-one. Of course I've only had a couple years so far. I built the stands then started adding, and it hasn't worked so well. You're doing well in doing good!
@MakeSomething I'm going to be honest, I am going to make this exact table. I love the way you designed it. I have the same table saw & made a table for it, but I incorporated my miter saw to the table as well. I use the table saw as the holding surface for longer pieces that I cut with the miter saw. Only down fall, I dont have an exit support for long cuts on the tables saw. Love your table, amazing. Keep up the amazing work!
You could make an outfeed extension and put it on a hinge with a foldable leg so when you aren't using your saw, you simply fold the extension down out of the way and roll it up against the wall.
Love your design!!! And the entire series in affordable tools!
Good video! As someone who lives in your neck of the woods, it’s nice to get inspiration from a local. You have truly come full circle with that sponsorship bit from the Guild.
Side note - I won’t lie about your last point though, I personally can’t stand the rack and pinion fence systems that are so popular now because of what you talked about. It doesn’t matter if they are dewalt, Milwaukee, Rikon, skil, metabo, ect… I’ve seen the same issue across the board. Plus they always feel cheap (and I’ve had a few break)
One huge upgrade to it though is to use the bow fence system. That thing is amazing in a small shop and gives it a lot more stability at the job site.
Awesome video! If I didn’t plan on getting a new table saw soon I would definitely build something similar I like how many features it has for a simple build
For an add-on fence, I think the Delta Model 36-Txxx is an excellent choice. I put one on my hand-me-down Craftsman saw and it made a world of difference. Home Depot usually has a good price on them for some reason. Really easy to retrofit. I made a similar cart for my saw and I did not use the back rail choosing to have the back end of the fence glide.
Taking the Bo Duke right out earned you a subscriber.
Just another fantastic video, sir. You inspire me to do more and more with each build!
You man rock every time in your videos, I like the way you make things!! Thanks
I bought and attached a delta 30" table saw fence sold at HD for $260. Huge improvement over the contractor saw fence. That being said, it is an angle bracket attached to square tube and a T square fence, so I could have made it myself for way less, especially since I had to drill custom mounting holes for the angle iron part anyway.
That's fantastic, thanks for keeping us inspired brother
My Dewalt has a tension nut for the rack and pinion fence, I’d assume that this one does as well. I had to dial it in to remove the slippery feeling when trying to get it at a precise position.
I purchased to become a member thinking I could get my hands on the plans and Nope. No plans for this build. 😱
The start capacitor on your compressor probably failed. It probably just needs a 15-20$ replacement capacitor 30min of time, some simple soldering and some heat shrink tubing. 🤞.
shame that plywood will run me about as much as the saw in Czech republic :D
I would say more, at least in Sweden if we're are talking Baltic birch 😢 But we don't have to use that plywood. But I do find the interior pine plywood I buy to be have a very soft surface. Not really a problem though, I guess.
He must have some Russian gangster connections to get baltic birch.
Plywood is expensive here in the US as well....and its not that great in quality either.
@@wildbill23c things were better when we were on good terms with the supplier of quality plywood. Birch grows in the Baltics though.
I've always been curious about the Baltic part of this equation. Is their birch different from other birch? In the nordic countries we have a lot of birch trees and birch is also the most popular firewood because of high energy content. But birch plywood is among the most expensive plywoods here as well.
Can it be that the Baltic countries simply have specialized in making this plywood and therefore "control the market"?
I installed a VEGA U26 fence on my vintage Craftsman 113.299 ten years ago. Outstanding upgrade! Comes with a micro adjuster that really works. Amazon for $350
Thank you, David. This video is great
If you push down in the fence adjustment knob it slightly disengages the gear and allows for finer movements of the fence.
Enjoying this series, Dave. Nicely done & thanks 😊
Great job. My only recommendation would be to round the corners of the whole cart, because uh ………..accidental groin/thigh contact while walking around.
This video came at a really good time for me, David. I'm in the design stage of doing something very similar for my contractor table saw. Your solution seems less convoluted and complicated than mine. So, I will definitely take inspiration from you! Thanks heaps!
Also, this video's pacing was really good. The 22 min long video felt much closer to 5 min for me.
Thank you!
I bought the accusquare fence for my craftsman saw, it's obviously a bigger saw than that, but they've got a smaller size fence too. I'd love to see your opinion on that fence! I personally love it, apart from the locking knob, but I plan to modify that at some point!
LOVE this video… and so excited for this series!!!
Slow golf clap, well done. Lolz taking inspiration for a table saw table while sipping a 9 yr old cellared French wine from Australia. Have a small shop I’m working on atm, maybe I’ll make my table saw a bit shorter like you have here an use a second flip flop mitre saw table as extended outfeed feed instead of make my the table saw table 2400mm long
Awesome, this is exactly what I've been planning to do!
3/4 inch plywood and “cheap stuff.” A contradiction in terms. 😂😂
I didn't have time to finish watching everything, but I will definitely come back for the useful information. So thank you very much and I recommend a socket splitter with a gaglat, it will help you with the tools. (You are definitely welcome to overdo it and buy a portable home power bank. It is always good)
What a great, practical project. Jobsite saws can be both equal parts great for their compact nature, but also equally shite because of how hard it is to use them without outfeed tables, wrong work height, etc. I bought a Milwaukee cordless jobsite saw a couple years back and don't know that I'd ever have much use for a full, corded saw. At the same time, it's little rinky-dink stand and no outfeed make it seriously annoying to use and the table is so small a crosscut sled is pretty much impossible to use as well. This video has given me a multitude of ideas to revisit at some point when I have the space to actually make that saw function efficiently. I'll definitely be referring back to this video when the time comes. Also, I have that same Fien dust extractor - it's nice, quiet performer without breaking the bank (but still a LOT more expensive than a big-box shop vac - but hey, at least it's not Festool-expensive).
“Visible pocket holes is the sign of a good craftsman”. You see? You teach me every time. I just did not know that until you said it. 😂😂😂😂😂
I believe that BORA stand is the BORA Centepide. I need to order a 4' x 8' one (CK15S), but dont have the £170+ (around $212). Great video!
For fine rip fence adjustments could you set a rough measurement with your table saw fence and add an auxiliary fence with something like a jessem micro adjuster? I've used a similar setup on spindle moulders in the past.
Shout-out to that "Blackwing" pencil. Best pencils on the market!!!
good eye!
@@MakeSomething David just showing some class!!!
Really excellent work, Dave! 😃
I definitely need to make something like that!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I have been watching videos for inspiration on making an outfeed/cabinet for my small saw. Never liked the bigger designs for the one car garage I am using. This is exactly what I was looking for! It is almost as if someone is watching me..........(que Somebody's watching me by Rockwell)
@MakeSomething not sure if you've run into complications with this and had to fix it yet, but the dust port hole you made in the outfeed support @9:30 is going to interfere with the ability to change the blade angle since the dust port on that saw moves with the blade. May want to cut a quarter circle track matching what you see on the back of the saw.
Nicely done! However, I would definitely replace that fence at some point.
Great project, Not sure if you noticed but the dust port on the back of that saw moves if you angle the saw blade. Your box is going to prevent that from moving or might break. I think you can just put an angled cut out to accommodate that.
It would be cool to see you build the John Heisz fence. I always thought it looked cool, but never pulled the trigger to use it as an upgrade on mine.
This is great! Nicely done 😍😍
I had TWO Phillips Head driver bits snap on me this weekend in the exact same way - and they were DeWalt brand!
I ditched the Ridgid and bought a Dewalt Stealthsonic 12 gallon vac- when you have tinnitus, less noise is king. Soupa Kwiet!
Love this series.
Check out the John Heisz fence made from wood. Plans are really cheap and boy is it amazing. you could mount it in the front of your boxes.
Nice build :) But you are the first one I've heard bashing on the fence. Everyone else, including myself, loves it for its incredible precision. It might be because it is the dewalt dwe7492 and not the wen table saw.
love this design
Mad respect for the black wing pencil!
Great video, thanks for sharing
Thanks, appreciate your content.
Thanks man. Good idea