The fact that there’s a place FULL of Abstractions shows just how many people were trapped and went insane before Pomni arrived. Makes me wonder if abstractions are a part of the Corporation’s (C & A) “game” or if it’s just a “glitch” they can’t figure out how to solve? 🤔
hmm. that’s a good question. considering how ragatha and the gloinks were affected by abstracted kaufmo attacking them though (becoming all glitchy), im inclined to believe it’s unintentional, but i can’t be sure. maybe caine can “fix” glitches but he can’t fix abstracted people since they’re so fundamentally broken, so he just pushes them aside to a place they can’t do any more harm. very disturbing to think about.
@@abraham3673I think the reason he can't fix the abstracted is cuz it's caused by a character going insane (which is in their mind) and caine can't control people's minds, but I agree with everything else
would probably explain jax's attitude in a way, he's already delt with enough stuff and was one of the people who was there the longest, so he simply just doesn't care as much and joke's around alot
Another thing to notice is that when they’re going to Kaufmas room, you see a bunch of doors with portraits on them with x’s across the face. That might mean they also went crazy
Plot twist: Kaufmo wanted to go to the cellar on purpose along with making himself get abstracted. What if Kaufmo explored every place within the Digital Circus, as well as the void. And the only place left for him to search that could be a way out is the Cellar with the other Abstractions…
my theory is that when pomni found that office computer with the headset next to it that was the exit, but for some reason with that exit door their the only ones who could see it never actually tried to put it on from the digital world ik this may not make sense but its the logical explanation to why pomni could see the xit and pass through all of those rooms, im just now realizing this as well lol
I thought abstraction was the equivalent of digital suicide. The way the gang talk about it after Kaufmo is put in the basement truly reminds me of people talking about a suicide. Down to the line “I can’t believe Kaufmo just gave up like that.” Edit: Holy moly thank you for the likes lmfao
@@melr8183This, I honestly don’t 100% get the “go crazy” aspect most people have thought up, as we can already see Kinger and Pomni are more than unstable enough to get abstracted if that’s truly the criteria. I’m reminded of Monika’s lines in DDLC about the (painful) experience of being de- and recompiled every time the game is quit or launched.
Yup. I wonder, you know how everyone else put a headset on and that’s how they got there? Are the ‘abstractions’ just death? Because the other abstractions are still very much there, so maybe you’re just dead in the real world or something else??
Same, me too. This is my first time seeing other people mention the same theory. To lead additional credence, I remember that in the conversation between Ragatha and Pomni when they're walking to Koufmo's room the order of events is going crazy -> questioning why you're alive -> abstraction.
Abstraction happens when you reach your “breaking point” according to Ragatha. I feel like that this relates to when someone can get so emotionally overwhelmed and stressed, that they completely and utterly snap, which can drive someone to do very bad things. Abstraction might be similar in this light, as you can have panic attacks and recover from them, but I mean in the cases where someone snaps and hurts someone else due to that. Your blinded by the OVERWHELMING emotions, and thus, what abstraction represents. The breakdown of one’s mind due to snapping mentality that they just can’t deal with it anymore, thus causing their body to warp into something which resembles the “breaking point.”
I mean this in the nicest way, but... Duh? I mean, this is like saying "Turning Red is actually a metaphor for puberty and periods" It's barely even a metaphor with how directly they talk about abstraction.
Well i guess that’s what they mean by being “abstracted” where your emotions practically go all over place in your dive into insanity to the point where they all just basically “combine” and turn you into an unknown assortment of *random* , kind of fitting the name of abstracting
@@lukehdarowlet9321 which begs a question, Did IHNMAIMS inspired her to only have what you described or if the ending will be similar, like Pomni sacrificing herself for the sake of others.
Honestly think Pomni might abstract early, she doesn't seem like she was exactly okay before the circus like the anxiety is fine, but she gets a bit too agitated easily, reminds me of Kinger, and he's been there the longest.
It would be painfully ironic if Pomni ended up being the first and/or *only* one to abstract, but not totally out of the question in the context of Gooseworx.
I feel that insanity will play a large role in this shows, especially when Pomni does the smile at the end, looked like she was already about to break mentally
I agree. Gooseworx herself actually tweeted that the Abstractions and the Elders of the lost eyes aren't connected in any way, aside from the similar designs.
Here's something that I've heard no one point out but is pretty obvious. Everyone else is a bit scared or uncomfortable but Jaxs is mad when cofmo is put in the cellar. Not mad at Caine but seems mad at cofmo for some reason.
I didn't think he looked mad at kaufmo, I thought he was just mad because he watched kaufmo, and the others (possibly more of his old friends), just get thrown in a cellar and left there to be forgotten
kinda have a theory that maybe one of the main characters WILL get abstracted (just like kaufmo) but then they somehow snap out of it and return back to their normal selves, but remember how it was abstracted lol
@@zzully I think Kinger's too dissociative to abstract per say. He's jumpy, he's not outright insane. Kinda hard to lose your mind when said mind is always off in la-la land.
Same here, I saw little Runmo not too long after it came out, and the video became an inspiration for me for a while- and I’ve been a fan since. You can probably imagine my reaction when Kinger said the thing, in that context.
Aight, super crazy theory, however, hear me out. (Skip if you don't like reading) The Abstractions are the good guys. Think about it, in the show, we (the audience) are given the idea that there IS an exit to leave but nothing is secured besides the clown going insane and Pomni catching a glimpse. When someone goes too insane, they lose their minds and become an Abstraction which Caine has seemingly no issue throwing away into a place under The Tent (or perhaps the dimension they are in, such as the void is a new location away from The Grounds. As he said before, he can't control a "player's" (or new person's) mind. Something he has no control over, but when they're put in the Digital Circus, Caine has all the power and makes it so people CAN'T leave. Not outta some power trip or God Complex, but perhaps he's just been so lonely that he wants people to stay as long as possible before they (as shown) go insane and go against the system that Caine has made. Just a theory.
a FILM theory, also i like that because he probably also wouldnt have as much control over the abstractions due to his focus on the non abstracted characters, which means they could easily rebel. maybe an mc like pomni or ragatha will abstract and join them
I can Definity see Pomni become the next abstract as we've seen her lose herself by going through all those Exit doors within the office. The problem is though, is that she's the Protagonist, but would make for a far better story in my opinion. @@arishachoudhury_
Even though it isnt said what i like was that even with Caine's powers he can't help the abstractions, yes he can restore their body to its natural state but one of his limitations are not being able to affect the mind and as we all know you abract when you react your mental breaking point so even if he restored your physical body, if you were still insane you'd just abstract again. A nice little detail that i think some people miss
My theory of abstracted character Is that their programmed into the world with specific brain signals And those signals are connected to how they do their cartoony thing But when their sanity breaks their brain starts panicking and their designs start glitching and warping cause the computer doesn’t handle those things well
Abstraction seems to be when a character is completely emotionally and physically disconnected causing an abnormality that is then mutated into the Abstracted themselves
If you think about it, all of the character designs are pretty straight forward and simple to follow compared to abstractions, which are strange, warped, and difficult to understand beings. A stable mind is usually easy to follow, while an insane mind is scrambled and confusing. My point: Abstractions are caused by insanity because they are meant to represent abstract art, which many people find confusing and strange.
This is false: Gooseworx has now confirmed that the design similarities between The Abstractions and The Elders of the Lost Eyes is coincidental because of her own creative limits, not that the abstractions are "clearly based off of them"
Did anyone notice how in Kaufmo's room(probably spelled his name wrong😅) there's a picture of Caine eating Kaufmo?I wonder if this can lead to more on Caine's character or just something random🤔
wait i never thought of looking in kaufmos room for lore, nice attention to detail. maybe kaufmo was threatened because of his exit obsession, or caine even showed him something which caused him to later abstract, something really dark
Poor people, they get teleported to a digital world without wanting it, then they go insane and get send to a basement which they wil have to spent eternity in, completely away from reality and not being able to die, just standing there for eternity
Please do one about how kaine is maybe an AI and he never mentions anything about the headset not needing to eat or sleep, etc. Only the other characters do that
I think it's just straight out confirmed that Caine is an AI though. Even though I want to believe that he's actually just a powerful dude that decided to do the digital circus thing. I guess he could still be a powerful, nice entity while still being an AI. At some point, AI have to become equal to our sentience, right?
@@plagueman049How was it confirmed I might ask? Because my theory would’ve been that Caine has been stuck the longest and found a way to get powers. Kinda like the Coraline story where it was revealed that “other mother” did not actually belong in that world and used to be a human.
they’re called obstructions right? not abstractions, which i think is cooler, like the code of the digital world has obstructed/archived them or something because they wont be a fun character anymore because they’ve completely lost it or something idk
I have a very horrible feeling that we’re going to see one of the main gang get abstracted. Unsure if we’re getting a second season after these eight episodes, but if we do it will likely end on a cliffhanger. I believe this cliffhanger will either be a new character or the abstraction of one of the main characters
But imagine you’re able to un-abstract the abstracted all this time and once they’re put in the cellar they’re then forever lost and all along they could’ve been saved if they’d just bothered to try hard enough.
@@Ly_7838 okay… this is WAY out there and not really related to the topic of the abstracted… but what if Caine is like the “evil” mastermind but at the same time he doesn’t think what he’s doing is evil. So like… he’s just like everybody else who got stuck in the digital world and forgot everything but instead of being “normal” he was the first ever to enter the digital world so he was given power over it… Anyways! That’s.. sad. Like imagine finding out you could’ve saved your friend years ago and find out when it’s too late.
@@ObsessiveCelestiali'm pretty sure caine is confirmed to be an ai and not a human, but that could also explain why he thinks what he's doing is good, because he doesn't know what the others are going through? also he can't fix the abstracted with his "magic" because he can't control peoples' minds, and abstraction is caused by losing their minds... but i wonder if there's any *other* way to bring them back? maybe you can get through to them if you try hard enough, or there's some sort of "trigger" or "key" that could snap them out of it?
@@whattheheck9279 what if Caine is a re-abstracted, abstracted character? What if once somebody is brought back from abstraction, they become an AI with human feelings, like Caine… they lose all human in them and are forever trapped in the digital world. (If you can even escape to begin with.)
@ObsessiveCelestial omg that is SO interesting.... if there's a way out of abstraction but it comes at the cost of your human life/soul..... it'd be kind of tragic if caine used to be human but isn't anymore and doesn't remember what it's like
there's so much lore in this video, like Pomni, Jax & Ragatha walking down the hallway, IF you payed close attention to the background you can see other characters crossed out on the Doors where they used to live, indicating that they used to be more characters before they went insane & cast into the cellar like coffmoe .
The creator has stated that it’s less of a reference and more of a “this is just kind of what I like to put into designs” but either way I love that they’re keeping to that style for abstractions it’s pretty sick
Fun fact if you look closely in one of the doors there’s actually a door with Mario’s face on it referencing Mario in the SMG4 channel it’s also crossed out it’s really hard to find too.
I think the creator mentionned in a tweet that the abstractions aren't "based" on their previous work but they stated that they do look alike because he struggles to design different looking monsters
i also noticed something that caught my attention, you know when pomni, jax and ragatha was checking on Kaufmo, right? at the background, you could see some dorms with an unknown character on the door, and i also noticed the unknown characters' images on the door has an X on it, so my theory that two of the abstraced creators beneath the digital circus was also the unknown characters on the other dorms
If abstraction really happens when you go insane, why hasn’t pomni abstracted yet? She seemed pretty insane by the end of the first episode. Is there a certain level of insanity that causes abstraction? Is it just plot armour? Is Caine the one abstracting people to keep things interesting go the others? So many questions about this…
I believe gooseworx has gone on record and said that this is an unintentional coincidence. I think it was a tumblr ask where they responded with something along the lines of, "This was unintentional, I'm just not very creative when it comes to monster design." Could be wrong tho, google is your friend.
I think Goose confirmed on their Twitter that their designs are just similar, and that the two universes aren't connected. As cool as it would be to see Elain running around with Pomni, it probably won't happen
gooseworx herself was actually asked about it and she said these two had no correlation! in her words, she just has little creativity when it comes to making creatures
I think the reason Kaufmo had all those paintings of Abstractions is because any semblance of what a person once was is lost when they abstract, meaning all photos of Kaufmo (aside from the door) or their interests were converted into abstractions too
I find it rather interesting how Cain is easily able to rid of the Glitch-Like effect that happens when Ragatha gets attacked. But when a character is fully abstracted, he just tosses them away
Yeah I thought of this too but kinda found an explanation for it the more I thought it through, Remember when caine said the only things he can’t control is your mind? Or something of that variant? Getting abstracted happens because you lose your sanity. Cain can fix you if you’re glitched because everything but your mind is affected. For Cain to fix you when you are abstracted however, he would need to have control of your mind so that he can re-orientate the details and fix whatever obsession made you crazy. Either by removing it entirely or changing what happens in your memory. I think the most interesting choice they made was that they didn’t make Caine omnipotent, he said he doesn’t know what happens beyond the void, even though his eyes are everywhere he can’t detect if somethings wrong and he can’t control your thoughts or emotions. If he is lying about not having full control and he actually does, my new theory is that you get abstracted once you learn the truth of what happened, and then Caine turns you, maybe caine CAN fix them but he choses not to because then it would reveal the secret his been hiding to keep them there.
On their Tumblr, they confirmed that there is no relation or reference between Elders Of The Lost Eyes and abstracted characters. They simply "have no creativity when it comes to creature design."
Another reference of a previous animation of Gooseworx is Kinger saying "You didnt experience a gameshow in there, did you ?" to Zooble, which is a reference to Little Runmo
I also liked the small reference from Kinger when he asked if Zooble saw a gameshow when they were eaten by the Gloink Queen, which is referencing Little Runmo when they get eaten and a game show starts in the creatures stomach.
Honestly. I thought it was obstructions for a while.. anyways, this is super cool!! I think when you go insane, you can kinda stop yourself letting go completely. I think the fact that kaufmo had no contact with people for at least a day or smth, shows that human contact is rlly important to keep someone from going abstracted. If someone was with kaufmo, he prolly could’ve been saved. Since they said “I can’t believe he would just give up like that” shows that you could hold yourself together until you have bottled up too much “craziness”. It also shows that kinger is currently holding himself together (Jax said “I always thought u (kinger) would be next”) so my theory is that pomni kinda replaced kaufmo and that kinger will most likely be next if he stays in his fort for too long.
the lore goes deeeeep 🤯
TH-cam tf are you doing here😂😂😂
lol
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What you doing here TH-cam XD
11 likes and 4 comments only!?
So messed up that the abstracted characters just stay in the basement forever
So... what if they escape one day? 🤔
@@Wifilessthat would be bad....
I mean since it seems any don't know how to fix them where else do you exactly put them?
this feels like Grom all over again
Theyre just discord mods
The fact that there’s a place FULL of Abstractions shows just how many people were trapped and went insane before Pomni arrived. Makes me wonder if abstractions are a part of the Corporation’s (C & A) “game” or if it’s just a “glitch” they can’t figure out how to solve? 🤔
YESSSS
There’s also a series of rooms with different characters that have Xs marked over them, telling us that they most likely abstracted.
hmm. that’s a good question. considering how ragatha and the gloinks were affected by abstracted kaufmo attacking them though (becoming all glitchy), im inclined to believe it’s unintentional, but i can’t be sure. maybe caine can “fix” glitches but he can’t fix abstracted people since they’re so fundamentally broken, so he just pushes them aside to a place they can’t do any more harm.
very disturbing to think about.
@@abraham3673I think the reason he can't fix the abstracted is cuz it's caused by a character going insane (which is in their mind) and caine can't control people's minds, but I agree with everything else
@@whattheheck9279I love that theory so much
You know how Jax had a key to everyone’s room? People have been making theories that Jax has seen most of the Abstractions because of said keys-
would probably explain jax's attitude in a way, he's already delt with enough stuff and was one of the people who was there the longest, so he simply just doesn't care as much and joke's around alot
I suspect Jax can access the basement with a key. A future episode will surely feature that place.
Wait guys.. if Jax has a key to every room… he can unlock the cellar!
And if the abstracted can be saved…
Gooseworx said the abstracted can’t be redeemed in her tumblr post ):
@@Cottondotime to make her do it *gets nuke and rocket launcher* *_SCOTLAND FOREVER PLAYS_*
What's scary is their clearly alive, just stuck insane.
I wonder if they can actually die there
Another thing to notice is that when they’re going to Kaufmas room, you see a bunch of doors with portraits on them with x’s across the face. That might mean they also went crazy
They abstracted, you can literally see other abstracts in the cellar
the x on queenie may be why kinger is a little unstable
Plot twist: Kaufmo wanted to go to the cellar on purpose along with making himself get abstracted.
What if Kaufmo explored every place within the Digital Circus, as well as the void. And the only place left for him to search that could be a way out is the Cellar with the other Abstractions…
thats 10 billion iq, but that seem to also be very foolish, if fucked up.
He couldn’t have explored the void as Cain can detect whether or not a persons out there.
my theory is that when pomni found that office computer with the headset next to it that was the exit, but for some reason with that exit door their the only ones who could see it never actually tried to put it on from the digital world ik this may not make sense but its the logical explanation to why pomni could see the xit and pass through all of those rooms, im just now realizing this as well lol
that is really fucking smart and really fucking dumb too
@@kris_somethingnot really, it took only around 15 seconds
Fun fact: Gooseworx admitted that they were lazy with the Abstractions design and they have nothing to do with the Eyes of the Elder.
@BoobyNate Lol it's true.
@@SlimyTheNekoslimedon’t ruin the lore
@@N00ne1npart1cular don't blame me! Blame Gooseworx!
yeah, wich is a little funny
I was just gonna say the same ! i saw her post on tumblr about it too
I thought abstraction was the equivalent of digital suicide. The way the gang talk about it after Kaufmo is put in the basement truly reminds me of people talking about a suicide. Down to the line “I can’t believe Kaufmo just gave up like that.” Edit: Holy moly thank you for the likes lmfao
Same! I haven’t seen enough people talk about this but I thought the exact same thing!
@@melr8183This, I honestly don’t 100% get the “go crazy” aspect most people have thought up, as we can already see Kinger and Pomni are more than unstable enough to get abstracted if that’s truly the criteria.
I’m reminded of Monika’s lines in DDLC about the (painful) experience of being de- and recompiled every time the game is quit or launched.
Yup. I wonder, you know how everyone else put a headset on and that’s how they got there? Are the ‘abstractions’ just death? Because the other abstractions are still very much there, so maybe you’re just dead in the real world or something else??
Same, me too. This is my first time seeing other people mention the same theory.
To lead additional credence, I remember that in the conversation between Ragatha and Pomni when they're walking to Koufmo's room the order of events is going crazy -> questioning why you're alive -> abstraction.
And then there's Jax going "Nah, he's fine,"
Abstraction happens when you reach your “breaking point” according to Ragatha. I feel like that this relates to when someone can get so emotionally overwhelmed and stressed, that they completely and utterly snap, which can drive someone to do very bad things. Abstraction might be similar in this light, as you can have panic attacks and recover from them, but I mean in the cases where someone snaps and hurts someone else due to that. Your blinded by the OVERWHELMING emotions, and thus, what abstraction represents. The breakdown of one’s mind due to snapping mentality that they just can’t deal with it anymore, thus causing their body to warp into something which resembles the “breaking point.”
I mean this in the nicest way, but... Duh? I mean, this is like saying "Turning Red is actually a metaphor for puberty and periods"
It's barely even a metaphor with how directly they talk about abstraction.
Dude no shit 😂
@@ThatInternetGuy420 took the words out of my mouth
Well i guess that’s what they mean by being “abstracted” where your emotions practically go all over place in your dive into insanity to the point where they all just basically “combine” and turn you into an unknown assortment of *random* , kind of fitting the name of abstracting
Probably why kinger is actually the least likely to abstract
Oh, it reminded me of "I have no mouth and must scream" and how at the end of the story the mc gets turned into a blob like creature.
Gooseworx has said that was actually a big inspiration for TADC, except instead of a malicious AI it's a silly one
@@lukehdarowlet9321 which begs a question, Did IHNMAIMS inspired her to only have what you described or if the ending will be similar, like Pomni sacrificing herself for the sake of others.
Honestly think Pomni might abstract early, she doesn't seem like she was exactly okay before the circus like the anxiety is fine, but she gets a bit too agitated easily, reminds me of Kinger, and he's been there the longest.
It would be painfully ironic if Pomni ended up being the first and/or *only* one to abstract, but not totally out of the question in the context of Gooseworx.
they did mention all being really crazed when they first arrived though so maybe it would pass, unless pomni has another connection to the game
My Lord, I wouldn't imagine seeing Pomni or any of the other characters get abstracted like Kaufmo did.😨
I'm sure they will all get abstracted by the end.
@@mr.froglegs Oh dear.😬
@@mr.froglegsi imagine some fucked up shit of all of them getting abstracted and pomni being the only one left
@@zzully or just fucking bubble and caine "oh, you guys won't fit into the cellar. into the bigger cellar you go!"
Damn the lore behind this show is quite cool
I feel that insanity will play a large role in this shows, especially when Pomni does the smile at the end, looked like she was already about to break mentally
i love that gooseworx deconfirmed this saying "im just not that creative lol"
Abstracted Kaufmo is just an eldritch llama
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nah it’s the structure of blarret
@@urlocalquagsire42msm!?
it's '''otamatic''
@@urlocalquagsire42
Caine: welp nothing ta see here folks! Go on your merry way
Jax: okay boss, ya heard im let's get a move on
Fun fact: Pomni means remember in russian.
Edit: thanks for breaking my record of most likes.
Gave me chills 😮
In german too I think
yet she forgets her own name
@@Queen_Breadnein
@@Queen_Breadpomni doesn't have any meaning in german
Sharing a similar aesthetic doesn't necessarily mean the lore is connected. Some artists just have specific designs they like to use.
I agree. Gooseworx herself actually tweeted that the Abstractions and the Elders of the lost eyes aren't connected in any way, aside from the similar designs.
Here's something that I've heard no one point out but is pretty obvious.
Everyone else is a bit scared or uncomfortable but Jaxs is mad when cofmo is put in the cellar. Not mad at Caine but seems mad at cofmo for some reason.
I didn't think he looked mad at kaufmo, I thought he was just mad because he watched kaufmo, and the others (possibly more of his old friends), just get thrown in a cellar and left there to be forgotten
mightve been mad he gave up
kinda have a theory that maybe one of the main characters WILL get abstracted (just like kaufmo) but then they somehow snap out of it and return back to their normal selves, but remember how it was abstracted lol
I think it could be ragatha, she seems mentally unstable enough but hides behind a motherly facade
Although kinger and gangle makes more sense, too, it just would be more obvious
@@zzullythat would make Ragatha getting glitchy from touching abstracted Kaufmo brilliant foreshadowing, you might be right...
@@zzully
I think Kinger's too dissociative to abstract per say.
He's jumpy, he's not outright insane. Kinda hard to lose your mind when said mind is always off in la-la land.
If they can return to normal, that will remove any sense of danger and stakes to the show.
As a fan of gooseworx before the amazing digital circus was announced I feel really proud of myself
Same here, I saw little Runmo not too long after it came out, and the video became an inspiration for me for a while- and I’ve been a fan since.
You can probably imagine my reaction when Kinger said the thing, in that context.
@@lilychimakes do you mean before?
@@egg3145 hm?
@@lilychimakesthe gameshow thing?
Aight, super crazy theory, however, hear me out. (Skip if you don't like reading)
The Abstractions are the good guys.
Think about it, in the show, we (the audience) are given the idea that there IS an exit to leave but nothing is secured besides the clown going insane and Pomni catching a glimpse. When someone goes too insane, they lose their minds and become an Abstraction which Caine has seemingly no issue throwing away into a place under The Tent (or perhaps the dimension they are in, such as the void is a new location away from The Grounds.
As he said before, he can't control a "player's" (or new person's) mind. Something he has no control over, but when they're put in the Digital Circus, Caine has all the power and makes it so people CAN'T leave. Not outta some power trip or God Complex, but perhaps he's just been so lonely that he wants people to stay as long as possible before they (as shown) go insane and go against the system that Caine has made.
Just a theory.
Why could this be true
a FILM theory, also i like that because he probably also wouldnt have as much control over the abstractions due to his focus on the non abstracted characters, which means they could easily rebel. maybe an mc like pomni or ragatha will abstract and join them
I can Definity see Pomni become the next abstract as we've seen her lose herself by going through all those Exit doors within the office. The problem is though, is that she's the Protagonist, but would make for a far better story in my opinion.
@@arishachoudhury_
Even though it isnt said what i like was that even with Caine's powers he can't help the abstractions, yes he can restore their body to its natural state but one of his limitations are not being able to affect the mind and as we all know you abract when you react your mental breaking point so even if he restored your physical body, if you were still insane you'd just abstract again. A nice little detail that i think some people miss
oh yeah
Oh I forgot about that animation, goosework is super talented ngl.
That theme song is now stuck in my head....AND I'M LOVIN IT!🙌🙌
Goose actually confirmed that they aren't a reference and that they just weren't very creative with the design differences
My theory of abstracted character
Is that their programmed into the world with specific brain signals
And those signals are connected to how they do their cartoony thing
But when their sanity breaks their brain starts panicking and their designs start glitching and warping cause the computer doesn’t handle those things well
sorry to break it to you but you're just saying the quiet part out loud. you picked up on the subtext story telling. you're not making a theory.
@@romangrayson6826 well I don’t exactly see anyone else saying it
@@Space-Spider2093 we all kinda just know it
@@arishachoudhury_ is it confirmed yet?
Abstraction seems to be when a character is completely emotionally and physically disconnected causing an abnormality that is then mutated into the Abstracted themselves
I told my mom all about tadc and now she loves it and I said we can watch it together whenever she wants even tho I think I watched it 6 or 7 times
luckyy, my mum would freak if she saw me watch it lmao
I noticed this too! It seems like Elaine’s world has always been digital so I definitely think there could be a connection in the future
If you think about it, all of the character designs are pretty straight forward and simple to follow compared to abstractions, which are strange, warped, and difficult to understand beings. A stable mind is usually easy to follow, while an insane mind is scrambled and confusing.
My point: Abstractions are caused by insanity because they are meant to represent abstract art, which many people find confusing and strange.
The TADC lore is getting so deep in the first episode that TH-cam themselves are also going insane
This is false: Gooseworx has now confirmed that the design similarities between The Abstractions and The Elders of the Lost Eyes is coincidental because of her own creative limits, not that the abstractions are "clearly based off of them"
Did anyone notice how in Kaufmo's room(probably spelled his name wrong😅) there's a picture of Caine eating Kaufmo?I wonder if this can lead to more on Caine's character or just something random🤔
wait i never thought of looking in kaufmos room for lore, nice attention to detail. maybe kaufmo was threatened because of his exit obsession, or caine even showed him something which caused him to later abstract, something really dark
Poor people, they get teleported to a digital world without wanting it, then they go insane and get send to a basement which they wil have to spent eternity in, completely away from reality and not being able to die, just standing there for eternity
Please do one about how kaine is maybe an AI and he never mentions anything about the headset not needing to eat or sleep, etc. Only the other characters do that
or maybe an administrator.
I think it's just straight out confirmed that Caine is an AI though.
Even though I want to believe that he's actually just a powerful dude that decided to do the digital circus thing.
I guess he could still be a powerful, nice entity while still being an AI. At some point, AI have to become equal to our sentience, right?
@@plagueman049How was it confirmed I might ask? Because my theory would’ve been that Caine has been stuck the longest and found a way to get powers. Kinda like the Coraline story where it was revealed that “other mother” did not actually belong in that world and used to be a human.
@@stellamariefanboy.6768 pretty sure a website or synopsis or sm called him a "wacky ai"
i was one of the people that already knew gooseworx before the digital circus
Did you know that you can a see some of the designs of the abstractee characters when ragatha is taking pomni to meet kaufmo?
yeah the xs
I feel like Pomni would be next ngl
If I have a strong feeling that the main character, Pomni will get abstracted but somehow come back
No, Gooseworx has said that Abstraction is conpletely irreversible
@@zionnemakoma1398plot armor could likely help her tho
The elders of the lost eyes move the same way as the carnival pomni finds when she was looking for caine, nothing important, just something i noticed
Gooseworx actually said that abstractions weren’t based on those
they’re called obstructions right? not abstractions, which i think is cooler, like the code of the digital world has obstructed/archived them or something because they wont be a fun character anymore because they’ve completely lost it or something idk
No i think its abstractions but it might be parallel to obstruction
no abstractions
I have a very horrible feeling that we’re going to see one of the main gang get abstracted. Unsure if we’re getting a second season after these eight episodes, but if we do it will likely end on a cliffhanger. I believe this cliffhanger will either be a new character or the abstraction of one of the main characters
1 is abstracted and 1 new player entered. Coincidence?
"I think not!"
I love it when gooseworx adds her own things ❤❤ I noticed this the first time i watched the TADC and I was so happy
But imagine you’re able to un-abstract the abstracted all this time and once they’re put in the cellar they’re then forever lost and all along they could’ve been saved if they’d just bothered to try hard enough.
Hasn't it been implied that they did try but it didn't work or Cain just sent them to the cellar before that possibility can happen?
@@Ly_7838 okay… this is WAY out there and not really related to the topic of the abstracted… but what if Caine is like the “evil” mastermind but at the same time he doesn’t think what he’s doing is evil. So like… he’s just like everybody else who got stuck in the digital world and forgot everything but instead of being “normal” he was the first ever to enter the digital world so he was given power over it…
Anyways! That’s.. sad. Like imagine finding out you could’ve saved your friend years ago and find out when it’s too late.
@@ObsessiveCelestiali'm pretty sure caine is confirmed to be an ai and not a human, but that could also explain why he thinks what he's doing is good, because he doesn't know what the others are going through? also he can't fix the abstracted with his "magic" because he can't control peoples' minds, and abstraction is caused by losing their minds... but i wonder if there's any *other* way to bring them back? maybe you can get through to them if you try hard enough, or there's some sort of "trigger" or "key" that could snap them out of it?
@@whattheheck9279 what if Caine is a re-abstracted, abstracted character? What if once somebody is brought back from abstraction, they become an AI with human feelings, like Caine… they lose all human in them and are forever trapped in the digital world. (If you can even escape to begin with.)
@ObsessiveCelestial omg that is SO interesting.... if there's a way out of abstraction but it comes at the cost of your human life/soul..... it'd be kind of tragic if caine used to be human but isn't anymore and doesn't remember what it's like
i love how there is one episode and everyone is making lore
its really detailed tbh so i get it
Just waiting for someone to say first
won’t happen, you already are
there's so much lore in this video, like Pomni, Jax & Ragatha walking down the hallway, IF you payed close attention to the background you can see other characters crossed out on the Doors where they used to live, indicating that they used to be more characters before they went insane & cast into the cellar like coffmoe .
[Chokes on cashews]
GOOSEWORX MULTIVERSE!?
The creator has stated that it’s less of a reference and more of a “this is just kind of what I like to put into designs” but either way I love that they’re keeping to that style for abstractions it’s pretty sick
I think people who getting abstracted are those who can maintain themself while people in the circus drives you crazy and insane
They also appear breifly in The Carly Boxman Show I belive
Gooseworx has confirmed that the abstractions and the elders have nothing to do with each other, she just didn't have ideas.
gooseworx actually said that they aren't related she just couldn't think of another design for them
I need the lore about the abstractions!
She actually said herself that it's unrelate and just a "lack of creativity" (or something like that)
Are we NOT gonna talk about the TV in Kaufmo's room that has camera footage of Ragatha and Pomni talking?
wait what? that is some next level attention to detail
Fun fact if you look closely in one of the doors there’s actually a door with Mario’s face on it referencing Mario in the SMG4 channel it’s also crossed out it’s really hard to find too.
Gooseworx said that they aren't the same thing, "I'm just not great with coming up with monster designs."
I believe it is not when they go insane, but when they fall into total despair
What if kinger is immune to abstraction because he's already insane
I think the creator mentionned in a tweet that the abstractions aren't "based" on their previous work but they stated that they do look alike because he struggles to design different looking monsters
Saw this on the Gl1tch channel, glad to see theres more extensions on smg4's channels for series to shine on
i also noticed something that caught my attention, you know when pomni, jax and ragatha was checking on Kaufmo, right? at the background, you could see some dorms with an unknown character on the door, and i also noticed the unknown characters' images on the door has an X on it, so my theory that two of the abstraced creators beneath the digital circus was also the unknown characters on the other dorms
If abstraction really happens when you go insane, why hasn’t pomni abstracted yet? She seemed pretty insane by the end of the first episode. Is there a certain level of insanity that causes abstraction? Is it just plot armour? Is Caine the one abstracting people to keep things interesting go the others? So many questions about this…
Wow! As a fan of Goose, I’m surprised I didn’t notice this.
the abstractions remind me of the corrupted gems in Steven Universe.
I believe gooseworx has gone on record and said that this is an unintentional coincidence. I think it was a tumblr ask where they responded with something along the lines of, "This was unintentional, I'm just not very creative when it comes to monster design." Could be wrong tho, google is your friend.
I think Goose confirmed on their Twitter that their designs are just similar, and that the two universes aren't connected. As cool as it would be to see Elain running around with Pomni, it probably won't happen
Gooseworxs confirmed that the abstractions are not a reference to the lost eyes.
Goose actually stated on twitter that thier creativity only stretches so far but it can be taken as a reference
gooseworx herself was actually asked about it and she said these two had no correlation! in her words, she just has little creativity when it comes to making creatures
Bro took one man's trash into one man's treasure into a whole new level
I think the reason Kaufmo had all those paintings of Abstractions is because any semblance of what a person once was is lost when they abstract, meaning all photos of Kaufmo (aside from the door) or their interests were converted into abstractions too
Gooseworx actually confirmed that they are in fact NOT connected, and that they’re just uncreative when it comes to eldritch creature designs
I never saw more abstractions till now holy.
"Welp in the cellar you go"-Cane
pretty sure gooseworx has specifically stated the design similarities were purely coincidental
"you didn't experience a game show in there did you?"
I find it rather interesting how Cain is easily able to rid of the Glitch-Like effect that happens when Ragatha gets attacked. But when a character is fully abstracted, he just tosses them away
Yeah I thought of this too but kinda found an explanation for it the more I thought it through, Remember when caine said the only things he can’t control is your mind? Or something of that variant? Getting abstracted happens because you lose your sanity. Cain can fix you if you’re glitched because everything but your mind is affected. For Cain to fix you when you are abstracted however, he would need to have control of your mind so that he can re-orientate the details and fix whatever obsession made you crazy. Either by removing it entirely or changing what happens in your memory.
I think the most interesting choice they made was that they didn’t make Caine omnipotent, he said he doesn’t know what happens beyond the void, even though his eyes are everywhere he can’t detect if somethings wrong and he can’t control your thoughts or emotions.
If he is lying about not having full control and he actually does, my new theory is that you get abstracted once you learn the truth of what happened, and then Caine turns you, maybe caine CAN fix them but he choses not to because then it would reveal the secret his been hiding to keep them there.
@@stellamariefanboy.6768 thats awesome
Talking about designs, Jax’s design helps the theory that he is an NPC, all the characters design represent a theatre or a circus, except Jax
"Can't steal someone's designs if they're your own designs"
When kinger says did you go through a game show to zooble after her head gets thrown up it’s a reference to gooseworks little runmo
It’s when runmo gets eaten and goes through a death gameshow
Reminds me of the alien from goat simulator… do they just get put in a hell through the void?
The time Kinger says ‘ You didn’t happen to see a game show in there did you? ‘ When Zooble gets eaten is a reference to little runmo
On their Tumblr, they confirmed that there is no relation or reference between Elders Of The Lost Eyes and abstracted characters. They simply "have no creativity when it comes to creature design."
I see that Gooseworx has a thing for loads of multicolored eyes
Another reference of a previous animation of Gooseworx is Kinger saying "You didnt experience a gameshow in there, did you ?" to Zooble, which is a reference to Little Runmo
I also liked the small reference from Kinger when he asked if Zooble saw a gameshow when they were eaten by the Gloink Queen, which is referencing Little Runmo when they get eaten and a game show starts in the creatures stomach.
wait thats acc so cool
Eberything I click on your shorts I expect to heat "did you know in helluva boss?"
i wonder if the rest of the gooseworx universe will play into this
it'd be funny if jax and darly met
I’m pretty sure gooseworx just stated “yeah it’s a coincidence I suck at designing monsters”
Lmao yeah, she said she has limited creativity with monsters
Honestly. I thought it was obstructions for a while.. anyways, this is super cool!! I think when you go insane, you can kinda stop yourself letting go completely. I think the fact that kaufmo had no contact with people for at least a day or smth, shows that human contact is rlly important to keep someone from going abstracted. If someone was with kaufmo, he prolly could’ve been saved. Since they said “I can’t believe he would just give up like that” shows that you could hold yourself together until you have bottled up too much “craziness”. It also shows that kinger is currently holding himself together (Jax said “I always thought u (kinger) would be next”) so my theory is that pomni kinda replaced kaufmo and that kinger will most likely be next if he stays in his fort for too long.
Whenever dude finds something slightly interesting he says it’s likely to play a bigger role later on, no hate, it’s just that I find it funny
I thought you’d talk about how zooble kinda reminds goose’s persona lol
I was wondering when somebody was going to make that connection