I think the best thing about this video is the presenter staying cool over the crash. No dramatics. Just a review of what happened. You can't keep a passionate Modeler like Troy down. Onto the fix and she'll fly again. Amazing build of an aircraft. Thank you for posting it.
I think you got the order of events of the crash wrong. The edf's and ESCs would have pulled too many amps through the wires connected to the battery. The wires wouldn't have been thick enough and so got hot enough to melt the insulation, shorting the battery. That would have caused the battery to explode and the esc to shut down. This would then have shut down the receiver, making you lose signal. Up until then, it looked like it was flying great and the plane looked pretty awesome. moral of the story: use thick wire that's rated for the current (2x 80A) and make sure your battery can have a high enough C rating to power it
@@krotchlickmeugh627 Actually I think he does, and his theory is very nearly correct. Early on when I saw the wire harness and the length I said to myself "Not going to work well". He should have used much shorter battery leads, and dual batteries.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 I've crashed 2 beautiful planes having done similar thing. But I had separate power to receiver, but bc I didn't have an rpm sensor i didn't know my motor quit early enough and It was too late when I realized and far and too low from runway and I just had to glide straight ahead into dirt and bushes. I would suggest using a better receiver too, with satellite antennas unlike that small 636A.
@@samdish yes theres always your set up. But i have been in it long enough to know about redundancy. If you have issues with dead sticks man best thing to do is get into thermaling a glider. I learned by pylon racing. A plane that was modified to be slick as hell and over 200mph. Is going to land at 100mph at idle. So you get her up into the patern and kill the engine. Learn the glide slope and stall tendencies. Gets you really good at dead sticks
You could not have asked for a more well composed shot of the crash. Hands out in desperation (just in frame), the plane descending to it's demise and a beautiful scenic background to echo the crunch of PLA. What a fantastic production. A night to remember, haha!
The thing I love about your videos is that even when things go bad, you’re still positive. It’s a joy to watch you and your sweet wife. So grateful to you and the way in which you compose yourself. Keep up the great work. I’ll buy you a coffee.
Lol yeah you absolutely will not go far in RC unless you can take a lot of bloody noses. It's part and parcel of the hobby. It's always great if you can go out, fly at least two times, and come back without a scratch, but you have to accept that things can and will go wrong. If you can't, then you're gonna hate it. If you can, then believe me, you'll love it or I wanna know why not, lol. Especially FPV. It's truly a special experience. :-)
@Sig Bauer I've never seen one go off just laying there in the plane but I have seen them come close. One of mine went full on smolder festival in a crash, which was pretty inevitable, but one came down hot and puffy just flying normally. I counted myself lucky that it hadn't gone off and taken the whole plane with it.
Lots to admire about your video : from your design, build and fly skills to your willingness to show the whole story, despite the crash. Not to mention your fortitude and determination to rebuild and improve. Great example to us all!
Great job on the design and build. There's a lot to learn from this crash. The fuselage is clearly a lot stronger than it looks in the build. Just beef up your wiring, add a separate receiver battery, provide some cooling for your ESCs and batteries, replace the plastic wheels and gear with something that can absorb the shock of take offs and landings, and version 2.0 will be much better!
I believe there should be independent batteries for both engines, the benefit of a twin-engine aircraft is that it is still maneuverable when you lost one.
Wow! Breathtaking. At least The Pilot step away, literally unharmed. 😀 It were beautiful, everything, up until the crash. And I am not glad about. Still we could learn from it all. Thanks for sharing with us. I wish for a happy and quick rebuild. Seeing that it is so light and strong, how about a small increase in size? (I am a layman. And have no realistic idea of what it will take to obtain a "size rise".) 👋🏻🌻
Absolutely incredible. Inspiring. It was incredible watching it fly. Your attitude over the malfunction and crash was as inspiring as the build and flight. Bravo.
14:10 "WHOOP! WHOOP! TERRAIN! TERRAIN! WHOOP! WHOOP! PULL... UP! PULL... UP!" 😅 The beauty of 3D printing is in a few hours you have spare parts and ready to fly again! Nice project, man!
Hello, Old flyer here, but completely new to 3D printing after a club member showed us his ME-109. So I'm really wanting to give this a try. And my eyes want more than a small 109, but damn 220 hrs to print! Maybe I had better start small. I'll be following you as so far I like your videos. They are easy to understand. Sad about your crash, but everyone in R/C flying should understand, Never fall in Love with a plane. They WILL leave you!
I love the mini version of AIr Crash Investigations at the end as well! Plane looks so cool and seemed to fly really well. Be good to see v2 up in the air
he wasted his life on this project his wife left him after he abandoned his family for the last 36 months to build this plane. she took the kids... hes holding back the tears after the crash
I can't believe you 3D printed this thing yourself and it flies like a bird in the sky!!! Congrats on that!! As for the crash, you found out pretty quickly what had happened, so maybe drill a few holes in the fuselage for air and it'll be fine next time. Thank you for sharing this video!!!
I loved watching this go together and it broke my heart when it crashed. What was amazing to watch is your attitude. Looking forward to your next build.
@@TroyMcMillan Will you be adding flaps? I really want to buy this modell but my airfield is a grass field and need to get the landing and takeoff speed down.
@@Sindrg1 For this plane I will not be adding flaps. I am rebuilding it right now to test out the landing without flaps. I also plane to test out flying it without gear for a cart lunch and belly land it on grass.
Congrats! it looks great, but I would've gone with a light coat of paint just to conceal the fuselage section lines, purely cosmetic. Sorry about the crash, but great NTSB work figuring out the cause of the crash. At least it wasn't pilot error. :)
Thanks for the video Troy, beautiful build, shows that 3D printed models have really come of age. Sorry to see it crash like that, a real shame, can't believe how composed you were. I would have been fuming with smoke coming out of my ears. My last crash was a Hanger 9 Meridian 10cc nitro powered plane, didn't fly for 5 years after that after a string of crashes (all my own fault). Now I'm printing an Eclipson Model C to get back to flying, so thanks for your professional and informative videos. They have been a great help. Also, credit to the camera lady for being so calm and supportive.🙂
Amazing build, I'm jealous no, I'm overwhelmed with how it all came together. Even though the end was disappointing I enjoyed watching this from start to end.
This is why I fly with an autopilot - if you just lose signal, it'll fly back home. In this case of course, it wouldn't have helped much since he completely lost power... No amount of software can fix a major hardware issue.
Troy, I'm really bummed out for you. Your design was brilliant and it definitely did fly well while it was airborne. The problem was in the power source not the plane, so don't let this get you down. I am truly impressed by your efforts in creating and building cool aircraft and opening up the field of 3D printed planes to your followers. Keep up the great work!
You might want to check your overall load on the battery in amps. Those turbo fan motors looked pretty beefy. Incredible build thought. Debris Field behind the plane after crash was kinda wicked. So realistic. Here's a coffee.Cheers.
Thank you so much for the coffee! I have watched the crash a couple times over, and looking at the debris field was definitely grim. I learned a lot of things I can apply to the next build.
Stunning! I find no other words for your project. Thank you so much for sharing! Keep up the good work, don't let the crash bring you bad mood. This thing is absolutely awesome...
What an amazing survival story. In scale, the engineering clearly outperformed actual contemporary aircraft. It would be interesting to see what a quarter scale model of a current production aircraft would do in the face of a common accident scenario.
Its AWESOME right up to the point of impact.... or until you leave it in your car on a hot day.... OR hang it from the ceiling in your garage... I just lost my entire 3d printed fleet of 7 very large airplanes. Last Monday, Salem Oregon was THE HOTTEST place in the country..... I didn't even stop to think about planes in the garage until Wednesday night. 3:00ish AM I say straight up in bed from a dead sleep and thought, OH NOOOOO..... Went downstairs, opened the door and got hit in the face with a blast of hot air. At first glance everything looked ok. Upon closer inspection, the rubber padding over the string I use to hang the models had pushed ever so slightly into the plastic. I thought, ok I can deal with this. That's when I looked at the Corsair. I saw it straight on and I could tell the wings were not right. From the side, all the models were drooping just a tiny bit behind or in front of the motor(s). Every plane with motors drooped a little between the motors and the center of gravity. Gliders long wings drooped the most. They almost look ok, but there is no way they will fly. Not even close. As display models they are ok. I figure it will take me 1800 hours to reprint them. Double that to paint and finish. Two hadn't been flown yet.... I figure the garage must have reached 130ish? Salem got to 117 officially. My house was 119. The garage has a black roof and was in direct sunlight from 5am to 9pm....
Nice job, shame to lose it like that. I worked in 3D modelling and print since the mid 90"s and was sceptical that this would stay together under load in flight but the way it survived that impact was impressive.
Amazingly cool demeanor after a devastating crash. Loved the attitude! "Part of the hobby" doesn't usually come out of my mouth for a couple of hours and numerous cuss words later. Awesome build and fly! Neat that you already have files of the parts you need! Too bad I'm too old to learn that stuff. They make the foamies for old analg guys like me:-)
Great Job! Thank you for taking us on your build and flight journey. It was fascinating and informative. Sorry that your test flight ended badly. I guess it's how aircraft test flights sometimes end up in the full scale world. Thanks again for an enjoyable ride!
Wow you really stepped it up for this project. Amazed how well your design worked - really didn’t think a single walled EDF airliner could work anything like this well. Shame you had the problem with the current draw but a second one (or this one repaired) should work as well as this did before the meltdown. Congratulations - a brilliant project!
Thank you so much! I did a lot of strength testing and prototyping for this single wall design, and I was so happy that it held together this well. Parts are on the printer now for the rebuild
Extremely impressive. My only gripe is no retracts. Hopefully you design an upgrade to incorporate retracts for those that want that functionality. I loved all the other design elements though. Great job!
Good thing it didn't have retracts because the loss would have been much greater. It's good to build an experimental, work all the bugs out, then deck it out with all the goodies.
Thanks for taking the time Troy to bring that video to us, a lot of work there ! Great to see how well it flew, not your fault the battery gave way and as you say “All part of the hobby” indeed we have to learn from things like this or we will get nowhere ! All the best fella from Blighty 🇬🇧
Congrats on a magnificent design and build Troy!! Probably the best 3D printed design I've ever seen! Sad to see you crash. My guess would also be the too small wires before the split and the XT60. They are only designed to hold 60A and you draw close to 130A at take-off. Use the XT90 and thicker wires if you rebuild. The rest should be fine. good luck and happy flying!
@@TroyMcMillan You're doing just fine. step by step. EDF is tough and overall draw has to be considered all the way thorough. But you're a exceptional 3D designer and your projects are inspiring! Keep up the good work!!
Wow what a cool building process, you've inspired me to try something similar one day! Flew like a beaut and great attitude when it ended in such an epic way.
First time I've watched your channel and I am impressed with your build and enthusiasm,its great that you can just 3d print the parts again but it still requires a lot of work and effort,congratulations on the flight it looked awesome until the battery blew up,top job
Boy, alot of time went into that build. Nice job designing, printing and assembly. Really nice looking bird. The crash was unfortunate but no one was hurt which was good. We learn by mistakes. I still feel bad for you.
When additional length is needed it should always be added between the ESC and the motor. Extending the battery leads can result in voltage spikes. If absolutely necessary they can be extended but for every 2 inches of length you need 1 extra capacitor at the ESC.
Great build. Keep it up! I'm sure you thought of this, but it's always good to have the controls on a separate circuit than the main flight battery. Next time!
What a great video..And such a precise build! Love how it flew, hated that it crashed :( R.i.p. Lotta respect for how much work you put into this.. Amazing!
Just stumbled across this video , never seen any of your other ones but I have a 6 year old autistic boy who’s non verbal and he was pointing and signalling to your page, we sat and watched in awe. Where did you learn all this stuff man, truly impressive. The design and build process too man, hats off. You made our morning sir
This build was amazing. The flight went perfect until the battery explosion. I am currently taking flying lessons and have 30 hrs.in. Any thing to do with hobby flying is my passion. Great job.
First of all I have to ask who at the time of me watching this video are the 505 people that gave this video a thumbs down? I want to know why you did not like this man's video? Troy I have to say that this is a magnificent build I envy you brother because I wish I could make something like this and I'm not gonna say I'm not mechanically inclined but this airplane is beautiful. I'm sorry that the first flight of the airplane crashed but you have the complete design and you can build another one. All I have to say is thank you for taking the time to show us your work and I hope to see many many more projects that you make.
Great build. 😉👌🏻 I've never seen a fully 3D printed model plane before. It seems that your wiring harness (motor leads) overheated due to high current and lack of cooling. Once the insulation melted the wires shorted causing the battery pack to fail and consequently lose all power and control. You can avoid full loss of control by using a seperate power source for the receiver and servos. Or just use much thicker wires.
Fantastic. A totally immersive and addictive video - and sequel! Such rotten misfortune with the wiring. I think you could only have caught that by running a full battery discharge cycle with the plane anchored to the ground. Thank you for sharing.
The flight was "proof of concept." Just figure out what happened to the power system and print out another. All in all, good job and good attitude. Congrats!
Absolutely fascinating build Troy! As an aging modeler from many decades ago, what is the approx. cost for this project? I'm super impressed with the 3d printing quality.
I'm not usually into watching build videos, but this was amazing. The design and construction was just incredible, And yeah, even though I knew it was coming (it's in the title after all) when it went down, it was like "OH NOOOOO!". Thank you for sharing this!
Out of all the planes you flew, this one that you designed is my fav, and I can't understand how you got the pieces to fit together so well. Are you a CADD expert in your day job? What software did you use? V/r
I was in a crash in a Cessna 172 (not serious) many years ago and can honestly say that I was more upset to watch what happened to your model plane than I was when I found myself upside down in the Cessna. The 172 broke its back after flipping over but (like yours) was rebuilt and is still flying today!
I work with AA A321's on the daily so this was really cool to see! Great build, sucks it crashed though 😥. BTW: if that's supposed to be a Neo, all the AA ones have a 400 tail number up to 434 using AA, AN, AL, and UW. All the 600 tail Airbus's are 320's.
Thanks man, Ya I was doing some research for the tail number and could not find out what number to use so I just used a date 6/14 what when I started the build.
Nice video, shame about the ending, looks like your wire couldn't withstand the amp draw and melted in turn contacted your lipo, a similar thing happened to me a while back, hope to see it fly again or at least a reincarnation of it.
I agree also, looks like wiring melted and just burnt the cover off the lipo. If the lipo had shorted it would have puffed and been a huge fireball 🔥 🔥 🔥
Incredible work! Almost in tears at the end.... but kudos to your passion! Now I wonder what value have I brought in on this earth. What's the purpose of my life. Its incredible how sportingly you took it! Cheers!
@@TroyMcMillan It gets rid of your internal BEC for power. So if that ever happened again you would still have control of the plane. ESC and main lipo could burn but you would still have control of the jet, just no power from the EDF.
KUDOs for the huge effort and making it fly so smoothly, it looked and sounded like a proper jet. A shame a bad battery can wreck all of it .. you should show the manufacturer what the consequences of poor parts are. Maybe they can sponsor a rebuild and build back their image.
The battery was not at fault. The follow-up video shows the wiring melted due to being too small for the job. The builder acknowledges this. Check your facts before condemning a supplier.
That is one good looking airliner. Sad that it crashed😭. Retracteble landing Gear would have really added to the looks especially on low passes. But they would also add weight, cost (and load on the batterie🤣)
So true! All of those reasons were why I decided to not have retracts on this version. I did design the plane to possibly have them in the future though!
Great content Troy! One question on the design; Do you use surface mode on Fusion 360 when designing your models? I would like to know how you can print single walls as well as the circular inward brim on the 1-8 fuselage parts.
Biraz zaman gecmis sorunun uzerinden ama cevabi ben veriyorum. 3D tasarimi yaparken en onemlisi meshin (orgunun) duzgun olmasi, yani yazilimda hangi modda yaptiginizin onemi yok. 3D yazim esnasinda duvar kalinligini belirleyen wall thickness, wall line count. Ultimaker Cura yaziliminda bu secenlerle oynayip Infill"i de sifir yaparsaniz sadece kabugu elde edersiniz.
I would probably have cried. Beautiful build though. Your work is so inspiring! I never knew what was possible with 3d printing and seriously considering getting into it.
Please tell me you used a separate stand alone 5volt BEC to power your receiver and servos...? You didn't use one in one of the cheapo ESCs did you??? It's bad enough your using that Spectrum Radio TBH....🤔😳🇬🇧
@@TroyMcMillan Not many people realise, these cheap Chinese ESCs have very noisy 5v BECs in them. The huge noise comes from the ESC of course. They used to fit Ferrite Rings on the 5 volt bec output because of this....Standalone 2S Lipo sounds good, although you will still need a 5 volt BEC or regulator..Pay attention to long servo wires etc because they need to be kept well away from the ESC cables...🤔🤔😳🇬🇧
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I think the best thing about this video is the presenter staying cool over the crash. No dramatics. Just a review of what happened. You can't keep a passionate Modeler like Troy down. Onto the fix and she'll fly again. Amazing build of an aircraft. Thank you for posting it.
jah quite impressed - would not have thought that was possible with 3D print. Kudos.
If hes this far in the hobby, hes used to it
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Lol
its not as if there were little people on board.
I think you got the order of events of the crash wrong. The edf's and ESCs would have pulled too many amps through the wires connected to the battery. The wires wouldn't have been thick enough and so got hot enough to melt the insulation, shorting the battery. That would have caused the battery to explode and the esc to shut down. This would then have shut down the receiver, making you lose signal.
Up until then, it looked like it was flying great and the plane looked pretty awesome.
moral of the story: use thick wire that's rated for the current (2x 80A) and make sure your battery can have a high enough C rating to power it
You dont know how any of this works do you
@@krotchlickmeugh627 Actually I think he does, and his theory is very nearly correct. Early on when I saw the wire harness and the length I said to myself "Not going to work well". He should have used much shorter battery leads, and dual batteries.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 I've crashed 2 beautiful planes having done similar thing. But I had separate power to receiver, but bc I didn't have an rpm sensor i didn't know my motor quit early enough and It was too late when I realized and far and too low from runway and I just had to glide straight ahead into dirt and bushes. I would suggest using a better receiver too, with satellite antennas unlike that small 636A.
@@samdish yes theres always your set up.
But i have been in it long enough to know about redundancy.
If you have issues with dead sticks man best thing to do is get into thermaling a glider.
I learned by pylon racing. A plane that was modified to be slick as hell and over 200mph.
Is going to land at 100mph at idle.
So you get her up into the patern and kill the engine.
Learn the glide slope and stall tendencies. Gets you really good at dead sticks
@@JustPlaneChris My theory is that WRECKTRUM is pure junk and has crashed thousands of models all over the world.
You could not have asked for a more well composed shot of the crash. Hands out in desperation (just in frame), the plane descending to it's demise and a beautiful scenic background to echo the crunch of PLA. What a fantastic production. A night to remember, haha!
The thing I love about your videos is that even when things go bad, you’re still positive. It’s a joy to watch you and your sweet wife. So grateful to you and the way in which you compose yourself. Keep up the great work. I’ll buy you a coffee.
"It's part of the hobbie"
This is the kind of people that enjoy life to the fullest.
Great video, thank you for sharing.
Totally agree mate good to see
Lol yeah you absolutely will not go far in RC unless you can take a lot of bloody noses. It's part and parcel of the hobby. It's always great if you can go out, fly at least two times, and come back without a scratch, but you have to accept that things can and will go wrong. If you can't, then you're gonna hate it. If you can, then believe me, you'll love it or I wanna know why not, lol. Especially FPV. It's truly a special experience. :-)
@Sig Bauer I've never seen one go off just laying there in the plane but I have seen them come close. One of mine went full on smolder festival in a crash, which was pretty inevitable, but one came down hot and puffy just flying normally. I counted myself lucky that it hadn't gone off and taken the whole plane with it.
Totally agree
Lots to admire about your video : from your design, build and fly skills to your willingness to show the whole story, despite the crash. Not to mention your fortitude and determination to rebuild and improve. Great example to us all!
Great job on the design and build. There's a lot to learn from this crash. The fuselage is clearly a lot stronger than it looks in the build. Just beef up your wiring, add a separate receiver battery, provide some cooling for your ESCs and batteries, replace the plastic wheels and gear with something that can absorb the shock of take offs and landings, and version 2.0 will be much better!
Yeah I'd say a battery for control surfaces and a battery for the motors
I believe there should be independent batteries for both engines, the benefit of a twin-engine aircraft is that it is still maneuverable when you lost one.
reliable battery for controls and surfaces, and then high powered 1 battery dedicated to the engines
@@Kni0002 motor battery with auto eject in case it gets too hot 😊
Wow! Breathtaking.
At least The Pilot step away, literally unharmed. 😀
It were beautiful, everything, up until the crash.
And I am not glad about.
Still we could learn from it all.
Thanks for sharing with us.
I wish for a happy and quick rebuild.
Seeing that it is so light and strong, how about a small increase in size?
(I am a layman.
And have no realistic idea of what it will take to obtain a "size rise".)
👋🏻🌻
The crash part is so realistic, but sadly it crashed :(. Nice Jobs though Troy!!!
Very realistic, it was pretty grim. Thank you so much though :)
proving that behind the plane is safer
@@TroyMcMillan It very much reminded me of the Asiana 777 that crashed at SFO complete with the wing high 180 degree spin.
The good news is he can just 3D print the parts for repair.
Absolutely incredible. Inspiring. It was incredible watching it fly. Your attitude over the malfunction and crash was as inspiring as the build and flight. Bravo.
14:10 "WHOOP! WHOOP! TERRAIN! TERRAIN! WHOOP! WHOOP! PULL... UP! PULL... UP!" 😅 The beauty of 3D printing is in a few hours you have spare parts and ready to fly again! Nice project, man!
Haha! Exactly, I have the parts printing now ;)
@@TroyMcMillan😄 👍
Is it bad if I can hear the actual alarm going off in my head just reading that?
@@SOAxZIPPER Only if ur on a plane
@@SOAxZIPPER same. im waay to much of an avgeek.
After all that hard work it's great to see that you're such a good sport about losing it. It did fly beautifully, though.
Hello, Old flyer here, but completely new to 3D printing after a club member showed us his ME-109. So I'm really wanting to give this a try. And my eyes want more than a small 109, but damn 220 hrs to print! Maybe I had better start small. I'll be following you as so far I like your videos. They are easy to understand. Sad about your crash, but everyone in R/C flying should understand, Never fall in Love with a plane. They WILL leave you!
Most impressive thing I've ever seen printed. Congratulations!
I love the mini version of AIr Crash Investigations at the end as well! Plane looks so cool and seemed to fly really well. Be good to see v2 up in the air
INCREDIBLE, that crash was exactly how a huge jet niner crashed. Please crash more
he wasted his life on this project his wife left him after he abandoned his family for the last 36 months to build this plane. she took the kids... hes holding back the tears after the crash
@@kskdcartman8792 whered you get this info
@@ronlorn568 from his ass, he's joking
@@mrb2917 lmao ma bad
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You made a lot of clever design choices in making this! Very well done!
Thank you so much :)
Good to see it in the air and flying great!
Yeah!
Not for long
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I can't believe you 3D printed this thing yourself and it flies like a bird in the sky!!! Congrats on that!! As for the crash, you found out pretty quickly what had happened, so maybe drill a few holes in the fuselage for air and it'll be fine next time. Thank you for sharing this video!!!
I loved watching this go together and it broke my heart when it crashed. What was amazing to watch is your attitude. Looking forward to your next build.
Such a large model requires flaps and a separate power supply for the receiver.
I will be adding a separate power supply to planes like this in the future!
@@TroyMcMillan Will you be adding flaps? I really want to buy this modell but my airfield is a grass field and need to get the landing and takeoff speed down.
@@Sindrg1 For this plane I will not be adding flaps. I am rebuilding it right now to test out the landing without flaps. I also plane to test out flying it without gear for a cart lunch and belly land it on grass.
@@TroyMcMillan Belly landing will rip off the engines again - gaurenteed!
Yea man with all that work. Shit. Second backup battery
I love the A321 NEO good design!
Amazing build! Great flight! Epic crash! You had all the highs and lows of the hobby in one project.
Exactly! The highs of it keep you going though, especially with this build
Congrats! it looks great, but I would've gone with a light coat of paint just to conceal the fuselage section lines, purely cosmetic.
Sorry about the crash, but great NTSB work figuring out the cause of the crash. At least it wasn't pilot error. :)
Thanks for the video Troy, beautiful build, shows that 3D printed models have really come of age. Sorry to see it crash like that, a real shame, can't believe how composed you were. I would have been fuming with smoke coming out of my ears. My last crash was a Hanger 9 Meridian 10cc nitro powered plane, didn't fly for 5 years after that after a string of crashes (all my own fault). Now I'm printing an Eclipson Model C to get back to flying, so thanks for your professional and informative videos. They have been a great help. Also, credit to the camera lady for being so calm and supportive.🙂
Amazing build, I'm jealous no, I'm overwhelmed with how it all came together. Even though the end was disappointing I enjoyed watching this from start to end.
Y uu
There are two things I fear:
1. Bears
2. "Telemetry Lost"
Bears: beets: Battlestar Gallactica.
This is why I fly with an autopilot - if you just lose signal, it'll fly back home. In this case of course, it wouldn't have helped much since he completely lost power... No amount of software can fix a major hardware issue.
This is the first time I have seen 3D printing being used for RC plane builds, simply amazing!
Troy, I'm really bummed out for you. Your design was brilliant and it definitely did fly well while it was airborne. The problem was in the power source not the plane, so don't let this get you down. I am truly impressed by your efforts in creating and building cool aircraft and opening up the field of 3D printed planes to your followers. Keep up the great work!
3300g meant that he spent $100 on filament, but the decals and the motors are something else. At least he has the STL in stock.
I was expecting it to end in a pile of dust, but it took that crash quite well. The uncontrolled glide at the end was nice and stable too.
I was really happy by how well it glided down too!!
@@TroyMcMillan THAT is because of your good trimming. Nice job, she will fly again!
This guy should be in the rc toy store and he gonna get money
You might want to check your overall load on the battery in amps. Those turbo fan motors looked pretty beefy. Incredible build thought. Debris Field behind the plane after crash was kinda wicked. So realistic. Here's a coffee.Cheers.
Thank you so much for the coffee! I have watched the crash a couple times over, and looking at the debris field was definitely grim. I learned a lot of things I can apply to the next build.
Very nice!
Stunning! I find no other words for your project. Thank you so much for sharing! Keep up the good work, don't let the crash bring you bad mood. This thing is absolutely awesome...
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gotta be such a great guy to be smiling and taking it easy after THAT LOSS. Cudos to you for showing us your build.
What an amazing survival story. In scale, the engineering clearly outperformed actual contemporary aircraft. It would be interesting to see what a quarter scale model of a current production aircraft would do in the face of a common accident scenario.
You forgot speed dude
Hey, fantastic job on that. Your build was perfect. This is like real life issues a plane might encounter. Very interesting
Agreed!
Brilliant. 3D printing is a tremendous technological advance.
Its AWESOME right up to the point of impact.... or until you leave it in your car on a hot day....
OR hang it from the ceiling in your garage...
I just lost my entire 3d printed fleet of 7 very large airplanes.
Last Monday, Salem Oregon was THE HOTTEST place in the country.....
I didn't even stop to think about planes in the garage until Wednesday night. 3:00ish AM I say straight up in bed from a dead sleep and thought, OH NOOOOO.....
Went downstairs, opened the door and got hit in the face with a blast of hot air.
At first glance everything looked ok.
Upon closer inspection, the rubber padding over the string I use to hang the models had pushed ever so slightly into the plastic.
I thought, ok I can deal with this.
That's when I looked at the Corsair.
I saw it straight on and I could tell the wings were not right.
From the side, all the models were drooping just a tiny bit behind or in front of the motor(s).
Every plane with motors drooped a little between the motors and the center of gravity.
Gliders long wings drooped the most.
They almost look ok, but there is no way they will fly. Not even close.
As display models they are ok.
I figure it will take me 1800 hours to reprint them. Double that to paint and finish.
Two hadn't been flown yet....
I figure the garage must have reached 130ish?
Salem got to 117 officially. My house was 119. The garage has a black roof and was in direct sunlight from 5am to 9pm....
Crikey, I never anticipated that sort of outcome. Sorry to hear it.
Nice,
I got some Ramy rc vibes because of the selected music😆
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@@pancake5830can’t u type?
@@Averagemobileeditor are you genuinely mentally impaired??? thats the name of the artist 😭😭😭 dont ever reply to me again lil bro 😭💀
Nice job, shame to lose it like that. I worked in 3D modelling and print since the mid 90"s and was sceptical that this would stay together under load in flight but the way it survived that impact was impressive.
Amazingly cool demeanor after a devastating crash. Loved the attitude! "Part of the hobby" doesn't usually come out of my mouth for a couple of hours and numerous cuss words later. Awesome build and fly! Neat that you already have files of the parts you need! Too bad I'm too old to learn that stuff. They make the foamies for old analg guys like me:-)
And me, lol
Great Job! Thank you for taking us on your build and flight journey. It was fascinating and informative. Sorry that your test flight ended badly. I guess it's how aircraft test flights sometimes end up in the full scale world. Thanks again for an enjoyable ride!
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Wow you really stepped it up for this project. Amazed how well your design worked - really didn’t think a single walled EDF airliner could work anything like this well. Shame you had the problem with the current draw but a second one (or this one repaired) should work as well as this did before the meltdown. Congratulations - a brilliant project!
Thank you so much! I did a lot of strength testing and prototyping for this single wall design, and I was so happy that it held together this well. Parts are on the printer now for the rebuild
My condolences to all of the passengers
who died in that crash :(
Luckily it was reported later that they all survived!
@@thefanfilmshow I though they found no servival ??? !!!!!
don't worry, its only the first class passengers that died. everyone else is fine
@@jamesjunction 🤣
@@jamesjunction serves those bastards right 😂
That crash was spectacular, not gonna lie
With two EDFs you should have run one battery for each EDF. EDFs draw very high current .
I definitely learned that the hard way :)
Extremely impressive. My only gripe is no retracts. Hopefully you design an upgrade to incorporate retracts for those that want that functionality. I loved all the other design elements though. Great job!
Good thing it didn't have retracts because the loss would have been much greater. It's good to build an experimental, work all the bugs out, then deck it out with all the goodies.
The moment the plane went up, that must be the most awarding feeling ever!
Thanks for taking the time Troy to bring that video to us, a lot of work there !
Great to see how well it flew, not your fault the battery gave way and as you say “All part of the hobby” indeed we have to learn from things like this or we will get nowhere ! All the best fella from Blighty 🇬🇧
Congrats on a magnificent design and build Troy!! Probably the best 3D printed design I've ever seen! Sad to see you crash. My guess would also be the too small wires before the split and the XT60. They are only designed to hold 60A and you draw close to 130A at take-off. Use the XT90 and thicker wires if you rebuild. The rest should be fine. good luck and happy flying!
Thank you so much for the tip! I am learning so much from this build. Planning on rebuilding it and I will be switching these things out next time!
@@TroyMcMillan You're doing just fine. step by step. EDF is tough and overall draw has to be considered all the way thorough. But you're a exceptional 3D designer and your projects are inspiring! Keep up the good work!!
Wow. Fantastic job 👏. You took the crash with such good grace and a smile. Pleasure to watch. 🇬🇧
Sorry for your loss, but that was the coolest RC crash I've seen, very scale!
Wow what a cool building process, you've inspired me to try something similar one day! Flew like a beaut and great attitude when it ended in such an epic way.
I think this is the best channel
Thank you!
First time I've watched your channel and I am impressed with your build and enthusiasm,its great that you can just 3d print the parts again but it still requires a lot of work and effort,congratulations on the flight it looked awesome until the battery blew up,top job
Boy, alot of time went into that build. Nice job designing, printing and assembly. Really nice looking bird. The crash was unfortunate but no one was hurt which was good. We learn by mistakes. I still feel bad for you.
I appreciate it, yes exactly thankfully it was just a great learning experience!
The moment the plane went up, that must be the most rewarding feeling ever!
Awesome work Troy. I'm surprised how well it survived that impact!
When additional length is needed it should always be added between the ESC and the motor. Extending the battery leads can result in voltage spikes. If absolutely necessary they can be extended but for every 2 inches of length you need 1 extra capacitor at the ESC.
That crash was EPIC!!!!! Simulated a real life crash scenario.. Nice job with the plain, I will definitely print this..
Great build. Keep it up!
I'm sure you thought of this, but it's always good to have the controls on a separate circuit than the main flight battery. Next time!
What a shame. Looks like the wire melted first which caused the battery to short. what gauge wire was the battery plug into?
A cara que pena . Tava muito feliz por vc. Monta denovo !! Lindo demais !!
0:41 that looks so real
What a great video..And such a precise build! Love how it flew, hated that it crashed :( R.i.p.
Lotta respect for how much work you put into this.. Amazing!
Just stumbled across this video , never seen any of your other ones but I have a 6 year old autistic boy who’s non verbal and he was pointing and signalling to your page, we sat and watched in awe. Where did you learn all this stuff man, truly impressive. The design and build process too man, hats off. You made our morning sir
Plot twist: The hydraulics fluids leaked, and the aircraft became uncontrollable
This build was amazing. The flight went perfect until the battery explosion. I am currently taking flying lessons and have 30 hrs.in. Any thing to do with hobby flying is my passion. Great job.
First of all I have to ask who at the time of me watching this video are the 505 people that gave this video a thumbs down? I want to know why you did not like this man's video?
Troy I have to say that this is a magnificent build I envy you brother because I wish I could make something like this and I'm not gonna say I'm not mechanically inclined but this airplane is beautiful. I'm sorry that the first flight of the airplane crashed but you have the complete design and you can build another one. All I have to say is thank you for taking the time to show us your work and I hope to see many many more projects that you make.
I would love to watch you rebuild it and re-design it so that it doesn’t happen again
You are amazing, the end broke my heart
Me too
What an amazing build. You’re extremely accomplished builder. I’m not sure I could have had that great of an attitude if I were in your shoes.
Great build. 😉👌🏻
I've never seen a fully 3D printed model plane before.
It seems that your wiring harness (motor leads) overheated due to high current and lack of cooling. Once the insulation melted the wires shorted causing the battery pack to fail and consequently lose all power and control. You can avoid full loss of control by using a seperate power source for the receiver and servos. Or just use much thicker wires.
Moral of the story, use back up recievers on big models
You got every part of that right. Now the Builder/Pilot knows it too. Are you a pilot, or does your picture just make you look that way?
@@saraheart2604
Nah, I'm not a pilot, just an enthusiast in all things aeronautical, electrical, and science and engineering.
Fantastic. A totally immersive and addictive video - and sequel! Such rotten misfortune with the wiring. I think you could only have caught that by running a full battery discharge cycle with the plane anchored to the ground. Thank you for sharing.
Check the Black box🤣🤣🤣 But you doing Great bud Awesome work 👏😊
The flight was "proof of concept." Just figure out what happened to the power system and print out another. All in all, good job and good attitude. Congrats!
Thank you, exactly! Learned so much and I have parts printing already
Absolutely fascinating build Troy! As an aging modeler from many decades ago, what is the approx. cost for this project? I'm super impressed with the 3d printing quality.
It wouldn't be cheap since you have to buy a decent quality 3D printer and computer to begin with.
Calculate 100 bucks per Kilogramm and that should fit quite good
@@peterzingler6221 100 $ for filament kg or the entire build ?
@@MaxtronZero I assume he is referring to the entire build because the price of filament is way lower than that.
@@peterzingler6221 A kilogram of PLA filament is between $20 and $30 dollars.
I got goose bumps watching that thing fly! Nice job!
Well done Bro. Learn and improve., we need a "ramy rc" this side of the the Atlantic 😁😁😁😁😁
I'm not usually into watching build videos, but this was amazing. The design and construction was just incredible, And yeah, even though I knew it was coming (it's in the title after all) when it went down, it was like "OH NOOOOO!".
Thank you for sharing this!
I was hoping it would recover the signal.
Now we all know to stress test the final wiring plan on the bench before installation and the maiden flight! Thanks for sharing.
Out of all the planes you flew, this one that you designed is my fav, and I can't understand how you got the pieces to fit together so well. Are you a CADD expert in your day job? What software did you use? V/r
Waiting for NTSB report ) Glad no one hurts
I was in a crash in a Cessna 172 (not serious) many years ago and can honestly say that I was more upset to watch what happened to your model plane than I was when I found myself upside down in the Cessna. The 172 broke its back after flipping over but (like yours) was rebuilt and is still flying today!
Not enough cooling/airflow for the battery? Either way nice job. Make another!!
I work with AA A321's on the daily so this was really cool to see! Great build, sucks it crashed though 😥.
BTW: if that's supposed to be a Neo, all the AA ones have a 400 tail number up to 434 using AA, AN, AL, and UW. All the 600 tail Airbus's are 320's.
Thanks man, Ya I was doing some research for the tail number and could not find out what number to use so I just used a date 6/14 what when I started the build.
Very nice bird, but its a CEO since the engine mimics the looks of the IAE V2500. 🙂
The way it took off was so majestic
Rest in peace to all the crew members inside the plane. never forget ✊🏻❤️
Nice video, shame about the ending, looks like your wire couldn't withstand the amp draw and melted in turn contacted your lipo, a similar thing happened to me a while back, hope to see it fly again or at least a reincarnation of it.
Completely agreed, seems that the ESC wiring did not handle the load.
I agree also, looks like wiring melted and just burnt the cover off the lipo. If the lipo had shorted it would have puffed and been a huge fireball 🔥 🔥 🔥
Incredible work! Almost in tears at the end.... but kudos to your passion! Now I wonder what value have I brought in on this earth. What's the purpose of my life. Its incredible how sportingly you took it! Cheers!
I’d be running a LiFe Rx pack in a plane that nice!
going to look it up now 😅
@@TroyMcMillan It gets rid of your internal BEC for power. So if that ever happened again you would still have control of the plane. ESC and main lipo could burn but you would still have control of the jet, just no power from the EDF.
@@jkflorida I am ordering one right now!! Thank you for the tip!
KUDOs for the huge effort and making it fly so smoothly, it looked and sounded like a proper jet. A shame a bad battery can wreck all of it .. you should show the manufacturer what the consequences of poor parts are. Maybe they can sponsor a rebuild and build back their image.
The battery was not at fault. The follow-up video shows the wiring melted due to being too small for the job. The builder acknowledges this. Check your facts before condemning a supplier.
@@Lozzie74 I checked my facts well, thank you for the suggestion. The battery is swollen, can't you see that even in the follow-up video ?!
you are awesome! disciplined, precise, professional, up to date, etc.
That's amazing with the 3D printing. I make models from wood, I'd love to know how to try something like this though!
yeah
No hate but in the build why didn’t u put retractable landing gear in?
weight, simplicity
as a fleet service clerk for American Airlines, i highly APPROVE THIS!!
That is one good looking airliner. Sad that it crashed😭. Retracteble landing Gear would have really added to the looks especially on low passes. But they would also add weight, cost (and load on the batterie🤣)
So true! All of those reasons were why I decided to not have retracts on this version. I did design the plane to possibly have them in the future though!
Great content Troy! One question on the design; Do you use surface mode on Fusion 360 when designing your models? I would like to know how you can print single walls as well as the circular inward brim on the 1-8 fuselage parts.
Biraz zaman gecmis sorunun uzerinden ama cevabi ben veriyorum. 3D tasarimi yaparken en onemlisi meshin (orgunun) duzgun olmasi, yani yazilimda hangi modda yaptiginizin onemi yok. 3D yazim esnasinda duvar kalinligini belirleyen wall thickness, wall line count. Ultimaker Cura yaziliminda bu secenlerle oynayip Infill"i de sifir yaparsaniz sadece kabugu elde edersiniz.
I would probably have cried. Beautiful build though. Your work is so inspiring! I never knew what was possible with 3d printing and seriously considering getting into it.
Please tell me you used a separate stand alone 5volt BEC to power your receiver and servos...?
You didn't use one in one of the cheapo ESCs did you???
It's bad enough your using that Spectrum Radio TBH....🤔😳🇬🇧
I actually used really quality ESCs for this build! Going to have a stand alone battery pack for next time though.
@@TroyMcMillan Not many people realise, these cheap Chinese ESCs have very noisy 5v BECs in them. The huge noise comes from the ESC of course. They used to fit Ferrite Rings on the 5 volt bec output because of this....Standalone 2S Lipo sounds good, although you will still need a 5 volt BEC or regulator..Pay attention to long servo wires etc because they need to be kept well away from the ESC cables...🤔🤔😳🇬🇧