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Ew what the fuck did Premiere do to the interlacing? Anyways hope you guys enjoyed! I've had this promised for a while, and I hope you were entertained by it :D
DanRock, I've always been on the fence about getting a guitar hero or rock band game; I wasn't quite sure it was something I could get into. Now I'm going to get it, it looks pretty good. Also good reveiw, I've been waiting for something from you. Thanks Dan
@DanRock, I assume you're playing on a HD TV. Try using the calibration numbers 80, 50. In that order. It works for me. And yes, it's the same HD TV calibration from Rock Band 3 and it works pretty good for me on Rock Band 4.
The reason you cant really hit notes on rb4 is because of bluetooth latency of the controller. You can fix it by getting a USB guitar hero controller and just rolling with that
3 years later clone hero has added whammy animations and pro drums, and there is a mod that lets you use the pitch-affecting whammy
“harmonix always somehow got the best songs(don’t get used to that)”
The Beatles Rockband: exists
It's a whole game of beatles... if you don't like beatles you won't enjoy it lo
While I appreciate the RockBand retrospective, I feel like it could have been executed much more accurately. While the OG RockBand had little differences between the PS3/360 and PS2/Wii versions, you're missing a lot of key features from RB2 and 3 by not playing them on their "most modern" consoles.
The career mode in RB2 was MASSIVE in comparison to RB3 which gave RB2 much more genuinely fun play time, even if the RB3 story mode was more detailed.
You're also forgetting about the most important aspect of RockBand that Guitar Hero could never match, which is the "Band" aspect. The game is and forever will be infinitely more fun with at least one more person, which definitely needed to be discussed.
I do agree that RB4 felt as though it was missing something, and I personally felt as though it was the attention to detail. The career is less robust, the character creator is far inferior to any of the previous RockBands, and the setlist is definitely lacking.
However, I believe Harmonix did what they set out to do in RB4, which was to focus on the "Band" aspect of the game. Even to this day, I have a blast playing RB4 with my friends, despite the games shortcomings, because we play together. I think you would find this game more fun if you went through it again with a friend or your girlfriend.
Oh, and there is a simple solution to fixing the lag on RB4, but it does cost some money. The guitar peripheral that was made for RB4 can automatically detect and adjust the calibration settings, getting them nearly perfect. You don't have to actually play with the guitar if you don't like it, but I'd recommend picking one up for that purpose alone.
Lastly, I definitely agree that you need more songs to really enjoy RB4. I was lucky enough to be able to download the RB1 setlist before it expired, and the RB3 setlist is still for sale on their marketplace for $15, which is easily worth the price.
Anyway, I don't mean to be overzealously critical, but as an avid RockBand fan since the day the 1st one released, I genuinely don't feel like you got the full RockBand experience by burning through the stripped versions of the games on your own. You'd enjoy yourself a lot more by playing through the "modern" versions of the game, with at least one other person. I hope my insight of the series will allow you to enjoy these games more in the future.
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The online console versions wouldn't change much. RB4 and Clone Hero exist for multiplayer and there's a dlc issue you didn't mention.
to be fair with RB1, I think the PS2 version was the only one with the pre-rendered backgrounds, as the other versions had custom characters and stuff
Wii didn't have customs
I personally prefer the rock band guitar, mainly cause I like the smaller frets
Rickstery cant really rake with it
I like the clicks frets. But the strum bar is just terrible lol 😂
It's cuz you got tiny kid fingers.Go get the Jr. Size guitar haha
@@codyketron3242 actually there are some benefits to the rock band guitars, smaller frets is not one of them lol.
personally i think the GH5 guitar is probably the best one BUT is it loud as fuck.
so usually what i would do is use the GH5 guitar, but if its late at night i'll just take out the RB hoffner bass or the RB3 red stratocaster since its essentially completely silent
The guitar hero 5 guitar is better because it has a similar shape, bigger and has a clicky strum bad
As a Beatles fan, Beatles Rock Band is my favorite. Also, the fact that I can mod it to add the Beatles entire discography is great. And 'Buddy Holly' and 'One' in Beatles RB is funny.
Kinda bummed you didn't include some of the band specific games like The Beatles Rock Band and Green Day Rock Band, but otherwise you did a great job with this retrospective! It was definitely worth the wait to me. Thank you so much for doing this!
+Jarod Ireland thanks for watching!
@@Dairunt1 Imo Guitar Hero Metallica is the best band focused rhythm game. I may have Metallica bias but a game that's about the Beatles doesn't make for a very challenging game.
@@Dairunt1 yeah GH5 and GHVH weren't very good... Band Hero was GARBAGE. GHWT GHWoR and GHM were amazing though.
@@Benjawin6671 What the game lacks in challenge, it makes up for in content. It goes through the majority of the band's career, from their Tavern gigs to the Apple rooftop. Also, unlike the band-centric GH games, it includes nothing but Beatles songs. You won't find any other celebrities that seemingly steal the spotlight. It's called The Beatles: Rock Band, not The Beatles featuring The Kinks, The Rolling Stones and more: Rock Band.
@@silhouettoofaman2935 I don't think the added content is all that important because I'm sure most people who play any Guitar Hero or Rock Band game would likely just stick to quickplay. The Beatles: Rock Band while amazing isn't a game I would only play for quickplay because I want a challenge in my game. GHM is a challenging game with an amazing setlist even though it's not just Metallica. I still love both games I just would rather revisit GHM because like ALL of the Metallica songs are very fun to play.
Alright 2 minutes into the video. No wonder you dont have alot of fond memories playing rock band. The wii and ps2 versions were pretty terrible compared to the ps3/360 versions. I have so many fond memories of rb1 on the ps3 with online play, character creation. Download as much dlc as i could. Competitive play online with score duels.
The ps2 version had none of that. Plus the graphics were pretty garbage in comparison (the reason being is because the priorities were to get the game running at 60fps)
well then your spoiled! :D
Wii and PS2 were definitely not the definitive GH/RB games, though I still have a lot of fun playing them on Wii today. Also, I think that there were unnecessary UI, menu, and sound changes between Wii and 360 and PS3. In RB2 the frets and notes look different, which I don’t see how the Wii couldn’t handle some simple UI, and the instrument on the rock meter glows and pops in 360 and PS3, but the Wii only glows. In the GH games, the miss note sound effect for the Wii version is the one used in previous games. GH3 Wii has GH2’s, GH4 has GH3’s, and GH5-6 have GH4’s. Also, the loading screen is different in GH3 for some reason and the menus don’t have any transitions. The font on the GH3 setlist is different too. W H Y ?
MYNRD Has No Name He’s not spoiled I was pretty young when the first Rock Band came out and I had so much fun on it even with the PS2 version
The Wii port had all of those things lol
Nah maybe buy a better console
Rock Band 3 is the best. IMO
No 2
2 is
Agreed
1 and 2 are better imo
@@Benjawin6671 It’s all a matter of opinion, I can see why one would like RB1 & 2 more but I’ve personally always liked 3 the best imo.
You Forgot Green Day Rock Band and Beatles Rock Band.
He probably doesn't own them not everyone owns every single rock band or guitar hero
For clone hero, they wouldn't be able to add the whammy sound because harmonix and neversoft have access to individual instrument audio stems whereas most custom song creators don't. If you tried to whammy playing a custom song it would distort the whole song.
Only rock band/guitar hero charts have them though
I'm so glad you chose rock band 3, because that's the game I absolutely LOVE compared to all the other rock bands. Thank you for sharing your opinion.
I like all 4 of the RBs
But I agree, 3 is definitely the best.
In case it hasn't been said, the smaller frets does DO something in solo's, solo's in Rock Band basically acts like tap notes and you can use the smaller frets during solo section and the notes will be automatically strummed regardless of its nature.
I think rock band games are still worth playing to this day they have great song lists
god i should revisit rb3. sucks i can't find my wireless adapter tho lol.
(even worse considering i want a controller for clone hero)
ps check discord dms i dont think youll regret it
i have to agree with you that RB3 is the best of the series. i'd* actually been playing it on my Xbox 360 for over a decade now and, while i play these games mostly for the setlist (and i did a healthy amount of online shopping to really fatten my game - counting DLC, imports and mods, i have over 800 songs now), i really love everything else. the fact that you can use your characters anywhere and not just on the main Tour mode, the cutscenes, the practice space, the freedom on character creation (and the fact that you don't need to spend in-game money to earn every piece)...
i only wish they had a World Tour mode instead, or parallel, to the Road Challenges. it really felt like you were traveling on that one instead of just going from gig to gig.
oh, and that they let you organize the bandmates' placement however you saw fit like in RB2 and Lego - i had to go through a few hoops and rearrange them all the time whenever i switched an instrument (like i had with an all-girl band i made where they all wore KISS makeup - i had to keep shifting them around so they would be in their right instruments).
also, i used to be initially of RB4 at first (especially since Van Halen was on it and they actually made hair on the characters instead of pointy 3DSMax lumps with ridges), but once i found out there were people retrofitting the songs for RB3, i quickly forgot about it.
and as for Clone Hero, i can't get into it simply because there's no band animation. you may call this a nitpick, you may say no one really pays attention to it (well, i do, i'm sorry!), but i like seeing the characters i make playing the songs i like, like that band of KISS girls i mentioned earlier or the girls from K-On!
if it weren't for the need to build new peripherals, i'd want a new RB on the Switch.
*i would say "i've", but my console's disc drive seems to be busted. i want to throw it in the garbage and buy a Slim model, but i'm on a financial bind right now.
Funnily enough these skrillex songs would actually fit if there was a keyboard...
Rock Band 2 started acknowledging drum solos
And the set kinked out the issues of the first one like a stronger kick pedal and pads that don’t need penny or socks to be fully functional
I grew up on rockband games and still have fun playing them to this day especially The Beatles and 3
Rock band 2 was my shit. I played rockband 3 a lot but my dad got a new tv and calibration became an issue more and more. Plus that was around the time I started hanging out with friends outside of the house so I just stopped playing.
I prefer Rockband over Guitar Hero. When I got Rockband 4 I kept failing too. But days before I got it I was still Rocking my ass off on Rockband 3 (Yep I was playing it for years) I just could not get the calibration right. What worked for me tho is when I didn't touch any rythm game for a year and just booted up Rockband 4 I got used to it very easily. Since I didn't play any other Rockband before it.
Wait what? I though the overdrive visual effects were generally way more subtle and less intrusive than Star Power. Especially ghII's effect where the notes all look like they glint off the sun and shine for a second? Like the sun's in your eyes? And the whole highway shakes? I always thought that was terrible design for an effect that usually gets used right at the solos when reading the complex note patterns is the most difficult anyway! The RB overdrive seemed very non-intrusive to me in comparison.
RockBand 1 was made with the PS3 & XBox360 in mind. To get it play on the PS2 & Wii, two inferior systems to the PS3 & XBox360, they had to water it down. This included the removal of custom characters and DLC, as well as pre-rendering the animations in the background. If you played RockBand 1 on the PS3 or XBox360, you never had any of these issues. At least the PS2 & Wii versions came with a few extra songs to make up for the lack of DLC.
RockBand 2 did not have as many issues on the PS2 & Wii because they figured out ways around the console limitations. Therefore, RockBand 2 has custom character creator and allows DLC. It still comes up short, however, because it did not allow importing the RockBand 1 songs, which could be done on the PS3 & XBox 360. This is because the PS3 & XBox360 would "burn" the tracks off the disc and download them to the hard drive, which the PS2 & Wii could not do. Now in regard to Rock Band 2 on all 4 systems, Harmonix did admit that their goal for Rock Band 2 was to just perfect Rock Band 1. That's why the 2 games look, sound and feel so similar. It is worth noting, however, that the greatest improvement of Rock Band 2 is the career mode or the world tour mode. In Rock Band 1, the only way to play the "true" tour mode was to play as a band, which required at least 2 players. The only way around this if you didn't have any friends willing to play Rock Band 1 was to do vocals + an instruments. Fortunately, Rock Band 1 did allow multiplayer voice chat devices as a vocals mic, at least for PS3 & XBox 360, but for the PS2 & Wii, as well as those who did not own a multiplayer voice chat device, your best bet was to go out a buy mic stand (which would be 3rd party because Harmonix never made one). Even then, it might be difficult to focus on hitting notes on the instrument and sing in pitch. Rock Band 1 did have a solo career, but it was the same career as Guitar Hero 1-3, where you just go from venue to venue playing a setlist, except this time, there's no encore! Rock Band 2 allowed solo players to play the true career/tour mode with just 1 instrument.
RockBand 3 is the closest Harmonix ever came to making the same game for all 3 systems (they dropped PS2 for this one). The only exception is that RockBand 3 on the Wii can only receive imports from RockBand 2, whereas Rock Band 3 on the PS3 and XBox360 can receive imports from RockBand 1, RockBand 2, Lego RockBand and Green Day RockBand. Besides that, you have all the same feature on all 3 systems. And yes, I would agree that this is the best Rock Band game ever.
I would have loved to hear your comments on Beatles RockBand and Green Day RockBand. Arguably, they did the band-centric music video game better than Guitar Hero.
I grew up on the ps2 version. Honestly the same repeating background was fun, it made each song unique
The solo buttons let you play a solo in a song without having to strum at all.
I played the shit out of Rockband back in the day. My mate had it we played it one night. The next day I went got my own. The day after that I could barely walk because I played the drums for a solid 15 hours straight. Ended up getting pretty good, I could 100% pretty much anything on expert. I wish they would bring it back for the PS5.
Very nice video. Loved the breakdown and commentary. Especially love the shoutout to CH (even though I play Phase Shift, cuz I play drumz)
Happy New Years
I know you were being sarcastic but Lego Rock Band on the ds was my first game of the genre. Its probably just sentimental but I unironically love it.
You can't read the notes during solo's/overdrive? Have you considered that you might be colorblind?
Pro Guitar
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Harmonix has a game on Switch called super beat sports. It’s nothing magical, but it’s definitely worth checking out at least once a year, it’s a care-free and fun game
Thankfully the whammy noise is finally implemented in the new ptb and also drums are supported
him: "am i a DF member yet"
that killed me, LMAO
i have over 10 thousand songs on clone hero, YOU GOTTA PUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP
Update to CH coming soon with the whammy feature you want.
Anyway thanks for this (AND THE GH) video! I didnt realize there were so many games after gh3 and rockband 1 l lmao...
The Smaller Frets you can use for Tapping (during solo’s Yes even the normal notes
I've never had any calibration issues with any of these games. I have Rock Band 1-3 on PS3 and RB4 on PS5 and XSX, PS systems are using a Guitar Hero World Tour guitar and the Xbox is using the RB4 guitar, and both manual and auto calibration seems to just work for me.
Maybe it's something to do with your TV and/or console setup introducing extra lag?
THE WHAMMY THING WITH THE NOISE IS ACTUALLY IN CLONE HERO NOW
Jokes on you, I played LRB on Wii. First and only Rock Band Game I played. I used to be able to play on expert difficulty. I still have the game, but I don't have the controller anymore.
And since this video came out, Clone Hero has only gotten better and better with each new update.
If you look at the rock band cover on the Wii case when he shows it to you, you see there's a EA symbol. I never play rock band the first rock band game I played was the fourth but I never knew rock band 1 was made with EA. ( Not that I'm saying I'm not playing it because EA was one of the people to make it)
Dude, don’t play the PS2 or Wii Versions of Rock Band 1 or 2 if you can’t play well with the highway or with the overdrive. Xbox 360 or PS3 are superior on those games. Also no, Rock Band 2 is not just the return of Rock Band 1. It has new features on that game, like Battle Of The Bands, Upgraded Local Tour, and Face-Offs on instruments.
I liked the guitar hero strum bar cause it made noise and helped with rhythm - the rockband guitar had the solo buttons for the solo sections which was super cool (until GH rivaled it with the World Tour guitar), comparing GH3 to RB1 I liked more GH3 songs but RB had a nice amount of songs too
Tbh lego rockband is the best
Liam lol 😭😂 you did not just say that
I’ll say for sure, I like Rock Band 2 as #2 best, and Lego Rock Band as #1 best in my opinion. No joke, I’m not a fan of Rock Band 1, 3, and 4. Those games and Rock Band 2 and Lego Rock Band were the only ones I played before. That’s why on my channel I have more Lego Rock Band videos on there rather than any of the other Rock Band games I did. I think Rock Band 3 is too boring to play for me, and Rock Band 4 is the worst one in my opinion. On the 4th, I can’t even fucking hit the goddamn notes on Guitar with the Xbox One Guitar! No matter if I play on Expert or Hard, it’s not fun to me at all. Plus the character customization is too less. And Rock Band 3 does have better features, but the customization sucks only a little bit, because of the goals you have to complete to unlock certain clothing you want and the instruments. The worst part is some goals require using Pro instruments, and hell no, I will not spend money on those just to 100% complete the goals in Rock Band 3. It’s too advanced for me to deal with. Lastly, the reason I say Lego Rock Band is #1 in my opinion is because Rock Band 1, 2, and 3 doesn’t have an Auto-Kick Drum feature in any of them. Only Lego Rock Band and Rock Band 4 does. Also I can’t play Hard or Expert Drums without it. No matter what you say about practicing it, that won’t make me do it. So don’t argue about it in the comments, because I’m not going to. It’s too complicated and it’s my least favorite instrument, trust me.
Lego rb is just rb2 but I has More of a modern set list
the first time i played rock band i was playing the drums and it was super fun
I just recently got rock band 3, oddly expensive game, paid 45 bucks. Tracked down a pro guitar, looking for a regular guitar at a decent price (being sold for like 80 bucks at my local game store.)
Bruh. The solo buttons were sick. Let's u do solo without strumming. Giving a cool high note solo feel
The Beatles rock band got barely any mention- that was my favorite rock band!
I actually own all 4 Rock Bands and I started my collection last year. I’m gonna be honest, Rock Band 4 has a better set list than most people say. I mean cmon, Panama (Van Halen), Hail to the King (Avenged Sevenfold), Somebody Told Me (The Killers). It’s hard for them to do more classic songs because they were mostly used in the other games. But with what they had, Rock Band 4 is decent. Here’s a recommendation for a DLC song: Dreams (Beck). Very fun song to play on any instrument by a very popular yet underrated solo artist
VideoGameWerehog theres more rock bands than 4
STUNTMEISTER67 I own all the MAINSTREAM ones. Sorry I didn't make that clear. But still, RB4 has a pretty good setlist
VideoGameWerehog *Pop Band 4
VideoGameWerehog I own rb1,2, beatles and almost all guitar heros myself
STUNTMEISTER67 hehe... I like it that you call Dream Theater, Rush, QotSA, and Avenged Sevenfold "Pop" bands. HA HAHA... HA HAHA HAHA!
Rock band has always looked and run best on xboxes. I would recommend trying it on there, because most of the issues you have with Rock Band 1 on PS2 are fixed on Xbox 360. Try it out (this is just a recommendation not a complaint)
Didn't even bring up the fact that Rock Band 4 was not compatible with the older instruments without a stupid expensive adapter
Beatles rockband is the best
It's truly 3rd times the charm for them
i have the rb4 official hardware and haven't had issues with calibration
Dan can you tell me where I can find a ps2 emulator for rock band 2? I want to see what the baby face looks like and how fun it is....even though I already have rock band 2 I want to see what it looks like on pc
Search pcsx2 on Google! ;)
I believed that there was a custom character maker in the xbox 360 or ps3 version of the first rock band, I dont know if I remember that it has it or not.
It definitely did
There’s a mod for whammy sound present day I think. If you join the CH Mods discord that’s one place you’ll probably find it
Rock band 1 on wii also had track packs btw
I’d jailbreak my PS3 just for custom songs. I wasn’t able to get the RB2 export so if there’s a way to put the RB2 songs in RB3 via customs songs please let me know.
NeverMindGaming I’m not sure about that have you looked up the dlc files
I sure have
And Mötley Crüe are great band
The Xbox 360 and the PS3 are the best looking for rock band. I think it fixes the UI issues you have.
Rock band microphones are actually really high quality if you have em use em
Rock band i think was always a good series since 1. Great setlists and fun gameplay although hyperspeed was omitted
Hmm interesting out of all 4 rockband 2 was my favorite 3 I didn’t like but I miss these games. Luckily clone hero exists
so you're telling Pete Wentz's weird CGI cousin was in Rock Band 3?
DID YOU TOUCH MY DRUM SET?
Rock band 3 was awesome
hey danrock i think you forgot the rock band blitz a arcade rock band game that was avalible in xbox live arcade in 360 and ps network in PS3
U colorblind slightly?
I heard hydrocity zone 2 in the back round
I gotta buy a microphone for rock band (i hope its official)
Clone hero??
Now an actual game
the best version of guitar hero, free, super customizable, easy to get any songs and theres adapters to use basically any guitar you want
It’s actually a clone of gh
You forgot to compare Rock Band 3 to I think it was Guitar Hero 3 that was your favorite of that series
I’m pretty sure the pre-rendered background for RB1 is only on the PS2. The PS3 version 100% did not have that. Also the audacity to say star power is less intrusive and it’s easier to see notes 💀💀💀 not a chance in hell. Before I Forget in Guitar Hero 3 is so difficult because you can barely tell what’s what during the bridge
If your like the early 2ks emo rock check out Lego rock band it's actually really good
rb2 had pro drums too
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Hey What about Panama
youd have been better off with the 360 or ps3 versions
Rock band 4 got better over the past few years but still not what it should be
Yeah
1:44 is that a Noragami poster on your door?
Well....Rock Band 3 Xbox 360 almost match to Clone Hero but the the downside is RB3 has 3,000 song limit. If you have RB3 for Xbox 360, then your in luck because you can get free DLCs, Exports, RBNs, and customs on your retail Xbox 360...no jtag.
Yes Clone Hero is the best, but I will still defend Lego Rock Band
I think you really fucked up by not getiing the HD versions of these games. That was really the way to go, the notes are way sharper and easyer to see. But you were mostly inn to guitar hero so i get why you diddn't get all the rock band stuff. I stuck with harmonix and enjoyd their games more, but to each his own.
"The main exceptions being 'I Miss the Misery' by Halestorm, and 'Centuries' by Fall Out Boy."
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No Rock Band Beatles & Rock Band Green Day????
I see the notes perfectly 😒
I always liked Rock Band's layout as when playing drums, the notes were very easy to see and distinguish how fast you're supposed to play the notes before they arrive at the line. However, Harmonix never changed the formula much and while they boasted that you could play drums with two pedals, they never utilized that for some retarded reason. These games are no longer relevant and there are free alternatives that are waaaaaaaayyyy better than the games they're based on with customizable highways, backgrounds and a plethora of custom songs that were made (mostly) by people who actually know how to chart music.
Don’t remember any of your complaints for rockband 1.
the beatles rock band :(
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Tbh the Wii port looks like a Xbox port of rock band
U have a cute cat
Yo
Understrumming????
Rb4
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Where da Beatles rock band
I'm honestly not feeling this one. imo playing the inferior ps2/wii versions doesn't really bring justice on making a "retrospective" review to the games. Those versions had it's limitations that shouldn't be taken to account on their ps3/xbox 360 counterparts.
(It's like if I did a retrospect on the first 3 mortal kombat games but I used the gameboy versions to do the review)